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EVERYONE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON.
WE ARE GOING START TODAY'S AGENDA WITH THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILMAN BO WHITE.
PLEASE RISE BOWER HEAD PLEASE.
DEAR FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HERE TODAY.
GIVE US WISDOM AS WE DELIBERATE.
P ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE AROUND THE WORLD PROTECTING OUR WAY OF LIFE.
OKAY, I WILL NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
THIS IS A CITY OF HARDY V, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING, 2 0 5 MAIN STREET, HARDY V, SOUTH CAROLINA, OCTOBER 16TH, 2025 AT 4:00 PM UM, THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO TODAY'S AGENDA? SO MOVED.
AND ANY COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.
NEXT WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING EMPLOYMENT, APPOINTMENT, COMPENSATION, PROMOTION, DEMOTION, DISCIPLINE OR RELEASE OF ANY EMPLOYEE, A STUDENT OR A PERSON.
REG REGULATED BY A PUBLIC BODY IN ACCORDANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAW 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A ONE.
WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE ANNUAL REVIEWS FOR BOTH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? MOTION TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND.
ANY COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.
WE WILL, WE ARE NOW IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE WILL START THE REGULAR SESSION PROMPTLY AT 5:00 PM MR. GROUP,
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US FOR OUR REGULAR SESSION.UM, WE BEGAN TODAY'S MEETING AT FOUR O'CLOCK.
WE DID HAVE OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND OUR INVOCATION, SO, AND OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? MOTION TO RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION.
ANY COMMENTS? COUNSEL? SEEING NONE.
WE ARE BACK TO REGULAR SESSION AND, UH, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
OUR NEXT, UM, PORTION OF THE, UH, MEETING IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP AND THAT REQUIRES ME TO READ THE RULES OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE ARE NOW ENTERING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING.
WE ASK THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
WE WELCOME ANY COMMENTS OR MATTERS APPEARING ON THE AGENDA OR THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CONTROL.
SOME MATTERS ARE BETTER ADDRESSED TO COUNTY COUNCIL OR YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES.
PLEASE AVOID PERSONAL ATTACKS ON MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, CITY STAFF, OR COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING MINDFUL THAT THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE BEING BROADCAST AND ARE AVAILABLE TO HER TO BE HEARD BY CHILDREN AND OTHERS AT HOME WATCHING THIS PORTION.
JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE THE TWO YOUNG LADIES WHO HAVE SIGNED UP, COUNSEL BY RULE, WE DO NOT DIRECTLY ANSWER ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ASKING ABOUT, WE WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE PROPER STAFF MEMBER WHO CAN, UH, WILL ANSWER YOUR, UH, CONCERNS AT A, AT, AT THE, AT THEIR CONVENIENCE.
SO NOW THAT'S, THAT'S OVER WITH MS. LISA BOYD.
WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM? STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
MY ADDRESS IS 2 35 SAND DOLLAR DRIVE, HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA.
GOOD EVENING ESTEEM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE PRACTICE OF OPEN COMMERCIAL BURNING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW IT POSES SIGNIFICANT HEALTH RISKS TO RESIDENTS, DAMAGES THE ENVIRONMENT, AND DIMINISHES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE SMOKE RELEASES HARMFUL POLLUTANTS AND AGGRAVATES RESPIRATORY CONDITIONS SUCH AS ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA, AND COPD TO NAME A FEW.
UH, WE ARE EXCITED AND RECOGNIZE THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THE RAPID GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF HARVILLE AND THAT WHAT IT BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
HOWEVER, WITH THE CONSTANT AND LONG-TERM COMMERCIAL BURNING, IT ALSO BRINGS SERIOUS HEALTH RISKS FOR ALL WHO LIVE AROUND AND IN HARDY.
WE, THE RESIDENTS OF LATITUDE, HILTON HEAD, MARGARITA REVIEW, EXCUSE ME, IMPLORE AND CALL UPON YOU FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO PASS AND ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS ALL FORM OF COMMERCIAL OPEN BURNING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, 6 6 1 PARROT AVENUE HARDY,
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SOUTH CAROLINA 2 9 9 2 7UM, FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY I WANNA THANK STEVE MESMAN FOR SPEAKING WITH THE MAYOR AND, UM, THE FIRE MARSHAL.
UM, I WANT TO THANK THE FIRE MARSHAL FOR STOPPING BY MY HOME TODAY TO DISCUSS THE BURNING THAT WAS TAKING PLACE AT THE MORGAN TRACK.
THE BURNING OF THE LAND CLEARING AT THE MORGAN TRACK HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.
THE SMOKE IS EXTREMELY BAD ENOUGH THAT YOU CAN'T KEEP YOUR WINDOWS OPEN OR SIT OUTSIDE EVEN GETTING THROUGH THE VENTS OF YOUR CAR WHILE DRIVING DOWN.
SO ON OUR LAN EYES FROM THE BURNING, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE ON TODAY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
THE FIRE MARSHAL CALLED ME TO INFORM ME THAT THEY PUT THE DRONE UP, THE MORGAN TRACK, WHOEVER'S DOING THE BURNING WAS IN CLEAR VIOLATION.
THREE CITATIONS WERE GIVEN AND THEIR PERMITS WERE REVOKED.
UM, THE STATE FARM MARSHAL'S COMING OUT MONDAY.
SO I REALLY THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ACTING UPON THAT.
SO WHILE IT'S GOOD NEWS FOR NOW, THIS ALL COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CITY DID HAVE A BURNING BAN.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRACKS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BURNING.
AND THIS IS JUST GONNA HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
SO WHEN THE MORGAN TRACK GETS DEVELOPED AND THEN THEY START BURNING AT THE COMMERCIAL TRACK NEXT TO IT, THE MORGAN TRACK, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BURNING.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, I WANT ASK THE COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO WHAT A BURN BAN WOULD MEAN, ESPECIALLY FOR THE LARGER TRACKS OF LAND THAT ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND, UM, AGAIN, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR ACTING QUICKLY TODAY.
AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE LIKE A WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO SMELL SMOKE AGAIN LIKE THAT AGAIN.
WHAT I WOULD, UH, ASK THE FIRE MARSHAL TO PLEASE FOLLOW UP ON YOUR CONVERSATION WITH BOTH OF THESE YOUNG LADIES AND I, UM, JOSH, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SIT WITH THEM AND EXPLAIN STATE LAW THAT WE ARE, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
BELIEVE ME, WE TAKE 'EM VERY MUCH TO HEART AND I THANK YOU MR. MESMAN FOR TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS.
UM, OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AND WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE HARDY 2025 STATE OF THE REGION VIDEO PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE TO 500 PEOPLE AT THE HILTON HEAD, BLUFFTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S A MESSAGE HERE.
SO FIRST, LET'S SEE THAT VIDEO,
YOU SHOULDA GONE INTO, I'M ALWAYS SAID THAT RAPID GROWTH IS LIKE POTS OF CHOCOLATES.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.
BUT MAMA DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GO, BUT WE PLANNED WHAT YOU GOING TO GET? PEANUT BUTTER CUP.
YOU REMEMBER JOHN EARLY THOUSAND 16 WHEN THAT SAID RUN HARRY RUN.
AND I REMEMBER ASCHER SAID, RUN, GONE RUN.
THAT'S WHEN AN OLD HARD GIRL MET NEW HARD BILL AND WE STARTED HITTING COME ONE HARD BILL.
IT WAS 2017, I BELIEVE YOU WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL AT THE TIME WHEN PRESERVED COMMUNITIES PURCHASED EAST ARGENT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 7,500 ACRES OR ON WEST BY AND THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
THIS DISTRICT WOULD BECOME A PROTOTYPE FOR HARDEN BILL'S, FUTURE PLANNING OF DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, BALANCING HOMES, SHOPS, PARKS, CITY SERVICES, AND CONSERVATION.
TURNING YEARS WITH THE CITY, YOU ARE A PIONEER GUIDING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
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THE NEW ROAD WILL BE COMPLETE THIS YEAR AND MORE INTERIOR ROADS ARE PLANNED, SIDEWALKS AND A BIKE LANE WILL BE INSTALLED.THE YMCA IS PUTTING UP BE AND WE'LL OPEN NEXT SPRING.
PROBABLY OPEN A BEAUTIFUL NEW CHARTER SCHOOL THIS SEPTEMBER AND WE JUST ACCRUED A NEW CROSS SCHOOL COMPLEX NEXT TO SUN CITY.
THE NEW COMMUNITIES OF ALL TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION.
ALRIGHT, MATT, OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF FEES WERE ATTACHED TO PROVIDE FOR ROADS, FIRST RESPONDERS, PARKS, AND MORE BERSERK DONATED PLAN TO THE Y-M-C-A-O VILLAGE AND THE CITY FOR FUTURE USE.
THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT IS DEEMED TO THE CITY AND SOMEDAY THE SCHOOL DEAL.
BEAUTIFUL PASSIVE RECREATION PARK.
HOW ABOUT CHOCOLATE? I'M GO FOR A SWEAT.
GOSH, NEW COMMERCE IS ON THE WAY.
PARKERS PUBLICS AND MORE SO FAMILIES WHO ALWAYS MADE THE HIGHWAYS FOR THEIR EVERYDAY NEEDS, THEY OWE FOR A HOSPITAL.
BUT DON'T WORRY, NO COSTCO, THAT'S ANOTHER BUS STOP PIECE OF DROPLET.
SO WHY ARE WE DOING ALL AVERAGE YOUNG HOMES SCHOOL, YMCA CAMP, PLAYGROUND NEW ROADS WITH FIRST TWO PONDERS IN HEALTHCARE NEW NEARBY A CITY THAT THIS HIT.
THAT'S WHAT VILLE PLAN DEVELOP DISTRICT WILL BE.
THERE'S SOMETHING SWEET FOR EVERYONE IN HARDY VILLES BOSTON.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE Y'ALL TO DESIGNATE HOPE WE'RE JUST FLOATING AROUND ACCIDENTAL, LIKE ON A BREEZE.
HARDY BILL'S DESTINY CONTINUES TO FLOAT BY.
AWESOME, GREAT, GREAT JOB TO OUR MEDIA DEPARTMENT.
AND I I JUST WANNA SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT STARTED BACK IN JULY AND IT WAS A CREATIVE PROCESS THAT OUR VERY TALENTED MEDIA DEPARTMENT, AND I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
AND THE POINT I WANNA MAKE IS THIS THE CITY OF HARDY V AND AND THIS IS, UH, AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW THE, THE STAFF WORKS WITH CITY COUNCIL.
LOOK FOR CREATIVE WAYS TO DO THINGS.
BELIEVE ME, NOBODY AT THAT MEETING YESTERDAY HAD ANYTHING NEARLY AS GOOD AS THIS AND THAT.
THAT'S A CREDIT TO OUR MEDIA DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH ALL OF US AT COUNCIL.
EVERY, A LOT OF US HAD YOU SEE ACTORS IN THERE.
THE SHIP CAME FROM COUNCILMAN MESMAN.
HE SENT US A PICTURE SOME MONTHS AGO.
SO IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
AND I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY TOTAL GRATITUDE TO THE FOUR MEMBERS OF OUR MEDIA TEAM THAT HELPED PUT THIS TOGETHER.
UM, I ALSO, THERE'S A MESSAGE HERE THAT I THINK I, THE REASON I WANTED TO SHOW THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE ME WE HAVE, WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SMART GROWTH AND WHAT IT IS.
PLANNING, ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMERCE, SCHOOLS, EVERYTHING IS BEING PLANNED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IS PLAN WISELY.
AND ADDING THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, SAFETY, AND, AND THESE THINGS JUST DON'T HAPPEN WILLY-NILLY.
WE'RE NOT THROWING MUD AGAINST THE WALL AND HOPING SOMETHING STICKS.
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AND THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS PARTICULAR, THAT WAS THE MESSAGE THAT WE TRIED TO SEND IMMEDIATE, SENT IT IN A VERY ENTERTAINING WAY.SO THANK YOU ALL, UM, FOR DOING THIS, AND THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID TO HELP MAKE THIS, UM, A A GREAT, A GREAT VIDEO.
UM, SO NOW WE GO TO, UM, THE PRESENTATION APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 2ND, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF OCTOBER 2ND? I MAKE A MOTION.
DO WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 2ND REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING? WE HAVE A MOTION.
ANY COMMENTS BY COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.
UM, THIS IS A VERY LONG ORDINANCE.
SO I ASK THE, UH, PUBLIC IF THEY WANT TO HEAR THE ENTIRE THING THAT THE, UH, THE AGENDA IS PUBLISHED ONLINE.
IT'S A VERY LONG SUMMARY OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO THIS IS SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 10 DASH TWO DASH B, WHICH DEALS WITH THE, UM, FUNDING, UH, MECHANISMS OF OUR PARKS AND FIRE STATIONS.
SO, AS INDICATED IN THE TITLE THAT YOU JUST READ, THIS IS THE FINANCING ESSENTIALLY FOR THE CITY TO GO FORTH AND BORROW FUNDS PURSUANT TO THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN.
SO THE BORROWING HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
THIS IS JUST THE VEHICLE BY WHICH WE GET AUTHORIZATION TO GO OUT AND, AND ACTUALLY MAKE, UM, THE LOAN WITH THE BANK AND THEN TO CLOSE ON THAT LOAN AND RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS OF IT.
UM, AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS TO, UH, THIS ORDINANCE.
AGAIN, THIS IS A SECOND READING.
WE HAVE, UH, DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH TWO WEEKS AGO, SO IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING THIS.
SO DOES ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? OKAY.
THEN, UH, I WILL GO AND I'LL START WITH MR. CARROLL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? NO, SIR.
WE DISCUSSED THIS IN LENGTH AND, UM, MR. GRUBER PRETTY WELL SUMMARIZED IT WITHOUT YOU HAVING TO READ IT, SO, NO, SIR.
MR. WHITE, HOW ABOUT YOU? I AGREE WITH JOHN.
MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS FROM ME, SIR.
MR. MESMAN? NO QUESTIONS, YOUR HONOR.
I HAVE NO FURTHER, YOUR HONOR.
I HAVE NO FURTHER, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS.
IT, IT'S A, A REALLY GOOD PLAN AND WE'RE DOING A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS FOR THE CITY.
UM, SO, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS TERRIFIC AND OUR BOND RATING KEEPS IMPROVING BECAUSE OF THE GREAT FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP OF THE CITY'S FUNDS.
SO, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 10 DASH OH TWO DASH B? MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE 2025 DASH ONE ZERO DASH ZERO TWO B.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.
ALL OPPOSED? OKAY, THAT ORDINANCE PASSES.
UM, NEXT, THIS IS ALSO A SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE HILTON HEAD LAKES WEST TRACK IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UM, PROVIDING FOR THE FINANCING OF IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BY ASSESSMENTS THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS OR OTHER REVENUES AS HEREIN DESCRIBED.
THIS IS ALSO PART OF ITEM NUMBER C, WHICH IS, UH, APPROVING THE ASSESSMENT ROLE.
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IT OVER TO MR. GRUBER TO EXPLAIN BOTH OF THOSE ORDINANCES.SO ITEMS B AND C ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA ARE COMPANION PIECES WITH ONE ANOTHER, BOTH RELATE TO THE CREATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF A MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR THE HILTON HEAD LAKES WEST AREA.
FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, WHAT A MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS, IT IS ESSENTIALLY INSTALLING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADWAYS, DRAINS, ET CETERA, AND THEN COLLECTING FROM THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO BENEFIT FROM THAT INFRASTRUCTURE ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS THAT THEN GO TO PAY OFF THE DEBT THAT'S BORROWED TO INSTALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY SELF-FINANCE INFRASTRUCTURE FROM WITHIN THE HILTON HEAD LAKES WEST COMMUNITY.
UM, THIS, THIS ALSO FOR, UH, THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC.
WE HAD A WORKSHOP SO THAT THE, UH, MECHANISM OF MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS COULD BE PROPERLY EXPLAINED TO THE COUNCIL, UM, THAT WAS HELD.
AND THEN WE HAD, UH, FIRST READING ON THESE TWO ORDINANCES TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN GIVEN A LOT OF INFORMATION, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS TO CLEAR UP ANY, UM, UNDERSTANDING ISSUES THAT ABOUT THESE THINGS.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL NOW OFFER TO THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN, ASK ANY QUESTIONS, MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON EITHER ONE OF THESE ORDINANCES.
I WILL ASK AGAIN WHEN WE COME UP BY, UH, BY RULE.
I'LL ASK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON WHEN WE GET TO THE SECOND ONE.
BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE AT THIS TIME.
UM, LET'S NOW START WITH MR. MESMAN.
MR. MESMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IS THIS FOR EITHER ONE OR ARE WE, I I, LET'S COMBINE THEM.
SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER ONE, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO VOTE SEPARATELY, BUT, UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, ITEM CI KNOW WE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH THE METHODOLOGY OF INFORMING THE FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUYERS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE TIMELINE AND ALL OF THAT.
IS THAT ALL INCLUDED IN OUR ORDINANCE? SOMEWHERE WITHIN THIS PRE MS. MR. GU, MS. MAINS, WOULD YOU? YES.
UM, THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ITEM YOU HAVE A LITTLE LATER IN YOUR AGENDA IF YOU, IT'S UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
UM, THERE IS A POLICY THAT WE'RE ASKING A COUNCIL TO ADOPT REGARDING, UM, DISCLOSURES TO HOME BUYERS.
AND THERE'S A PROCESS THAT'S OUTLINED THERE, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, WHEN YOU GET AMID, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU STATUTORILY HAVE TO DO IS A NOTICE OF THE ASSESSMENT LIEN WILL BE RECORDED IN THE PROPERTY OF TAX RECORDS.
AGAIN, THAT'S HOW WHEN YOU PURCHASE A PROPERTY, THEY KNOW TO HAVE THAT TAX ASSESS.
BUT TAKING THAT FURTHER STEP WITH THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, OF THAT ACTUAL COMMUNICATION TO THE HOME BUYER, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU SIGN A LOT OF DOCUMENTS WHEN YOU CLOSE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, DOESN'T MEAN YOU, YOU READ ALL OF IT.
UM, SO THAT POLICY KIND OF OUTLINES THAT YOU ASK FOR THE CONDITION, UH, COVENANTS, THE CCRS WILL HAVE THIS IN THERE THAT YOU ALSO ASK FOR PURCHASE SALE AGREEMENTS TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ADDENDUM SHEET THAT NOTIFIES THEM THAT THIS IS A PROPERTY SUBJECT TO A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A, THE THIRD PROVISION, I'M, I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT HAS TO DO WITH AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE FROM THE SELLER TO THE BUYER.
UM, SO THAT IS A POLICY WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ADOPT, TO HOPEFULLY MEET THOSE NEEDS TO THE EXTENT, UM, THAT THE CITY HAS THE POWER TO DO SO.
SO THIS WILL BE, IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER WITHIN OUR AGENDA, BUT WE ARE INCLUDING IT.
I, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT THOUGH, THAT IT'S, IT BECOMES AN ORDINANCE AND WE'RE NOT TACKING IT JUST ONTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IF WE HAVE THIS AGAIN, RIGHT.
SO IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY BE IN YES, SIR.
ITEM D IS A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THAT POLICY.
YEAH, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR.
UM, MRS. GUZMAN, UM, I WAS VERY ADAMANT THAT THIS POLICY GETS INVOLVED IN THERE BECAUSE, UM, LIVING IN, IN ONE OF THOSE, UM, DEVELOPMENTS, WE'VE HAD ISSUES WITH THE CCRS NOT BEING, UM, HANDED OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER.
SO I WAS VERY, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, POTENTIAL BUYERS NOT KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT TAGGED ONTO THEIR, UH, PURCHASE PRICE AND
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GOING FORWARD.SO I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS HAS BEEN DONE GOING FORWARD.
AND SO NOT JUST WITH THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD.
SO MY QUESTION WAS, DOES THIS RUN WITH THE LAND A CCR WILL RUN WITH THE LAND? YES, MA'AM.
BUT WE HAVE ASKED FOR THEM TO PUT IT IN THEIR CCRS BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A CITY DOCUMENT.
BUT YOU ARE ADOPTING A POLICY THAT AS PART OF YOUR MID APPROVALS, YOU ASK FOR THEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A POLICY THAT YOU HAVE.
WE HAD TALKED AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT HOW OUR APPROACH TO THIS WAS GONNA BE A, A TRUE BELT AND SUSPENDERS APPROACH MM-HMM
AND SO WE'VE REALLY COME UP WITH FOUR SEPARATE WAYS IN WHICH FOLKS CAN GET NOTICE.
ONE, IT'S GONNA BE RECORDED IN THE CHAIN OF TITLE TWO, IT'LL BE RECORDED IN THE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THREE, THERE'S AN AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATION AS THE INITIAL DEVELOPER TO COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION.
NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT IT GETS A LITTLE BIT TRICKY THAT IF I BOUGHT IT, BUT THEN I TURN AROUND AND SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE LATER.
I WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT OBLIGATION ON ME, BUT THE DEVELOPER WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT IT IS SELLING PROPERTY TO.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO CONTRACT WITH A THIRD PARTY TO MAINTAIN A WEBSITE THAT IS SEARCHABLE BY ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
YOU PUT YOUR ADDRESS IN AND IT'LL TELL YOU IF IT'S SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT, AND IF SO, HOW MUCH PER YEAR? OKAY.
SO HOW MUCH OF THE OWNERS OF THIS WILL BE ON REALTORS AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE SELLING THE PROPERTIES TO PEOPLE.
HOW MUCH OF THE RESPONSIBILITY IS GOING TO BE ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CLIENT KNOWS OF THIS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT? SO WE ARE ENTERING INTO ESSENTIALLY CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE DEVELOPER.
AND SO WE CAN PUT THOSE OBLIGATIONS ON THE DEVELOPER TO NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT IT IS SELLING OUR MARKETING PROPERTIES TO.
NOW, IF THAT PROPERTY'S BEEN SOLD TO SOMEONE, AND THEN I HIRE A REALTOR TO MARKET ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO ENSURE THAT THE REALTOR IS REQUIRING THAT AS PART OF THAT TRANSACTION BECAUSE IT'S A SUBSEQUENT TRANSACTION OUTSIDE OF THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER.
NOW AGAIN, IT'LL STILL BE IN THE CHAIN OF TITLE.
IT'LL STILL BE IN THE COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, AND THERE'LL STILL BE A WEBSITE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT WE CAN'T MANDATE THAT A THIRD PARTY WHO'S NOT A PART OF THIS TRANSACTION HAS AN AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATION IN PERPETUITY TO PROVIDE THAT DISCLOSURE.
AND THANK YOU FOR GOING AFTER THAT.
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UH, I THINK THE DISCLOSURE DISCUSSION IS VERY IMPORTANT AND THANKS FOR GETTING THAT PART OF THE, UH, TRANSACTION, MR. CARROLL.
UM, SHE'S LIKE A DOG GOING AFTER A BONE BOY, AND SHE, BUT, UH, SHE WAS RIGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S SOME PEOPLE THAT BUY A HOUSE IN SUCCESSION OR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO KNOW.
SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
I AM PROUD OF THIS COUNCIL THAT, UH, WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE GOOD THING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE'VE REQUIRED HERE.
AND I'M, I'M PROUD OF EVERYBODY WHO HELPED PUSH THAT FORWARD.
SO NOW, UM, WE HAVE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE FIRST ORDINANCE, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO A, UH, A VOTE ON THE FIRST ORDINANCE ONLY.
UM, THIS IS ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 10 DASH TWO C.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE? MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 10 DASH ZERO TWO C.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.
ALL OPPOSED, THAT ORDINANCE IS NOW APPROVED.
THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, UH, AGAIN, APPROVING THE, UH, ASSESSMENT ROLE AND THE METHODOLOGY FOR THAT.
THIS IS 2025 DASH 10 DASH OH 2D.
UM, I WILL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? THIS IS RELATED TO THE ONE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
THEN I'M GONNA START QUESTIONING WITH MR. CARROLL.
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YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, MR. CARROLL? NO, SIR.I HAVE NO FURTHER THING AND NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
SO, UM, AT THIS POINT I'LL, I WILL ACCEPT A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE SECOND READING OF 2025 DASH 10 DASH 2D.
WE APPROVE 2025 DASH 10 DASH 2D.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.
THAT ORDINANCE IS APPROVED AS WELL.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, NEW BUSINESS.
AND THIS FIRST ONE HAS BEEN, IS THIS THE ONE THAT'S BEEN PULLED? BOTH ITEMS A AND B UNDER NEW BUSINESS HAVE BEEN, UH, ASKED TO BE WITHDRAWN.
SO A AND B HAVE BEEN WITHDRAWN.
WE'RE GONNA GO TO ITEM NUMBER C.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I'M GONNA ASK THE PUBLIC TO REFER TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE HERE, IT'S OVER THERE.
AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT HERE, IT IS ONLINE.
AND BASICALLY IT'S AN ORDINANCE TO AUTHORIZE AND PROVIDE THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF NOT TO EXCEED $47 MILLION IN PRINCIPLE FOR THE HILTON HEAD LAKES WEST MID.
IT RELATES TO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN OLD BUSINESS.
MR. GRUBER, WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER TWO? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, IF YOU'LL RECALL BACK TO WHEN WE HAD THE WORKSHOP ON THE MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THAT IT IT IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS.
SO THE VERY FIRST ITEM THAT YOU PASSED WAS A RESOLUTION CREATING THE DISTRICT.
NOW YOU'VE PASSED TWO ORDINANCES THAT STRUCTURALLY START TO FORM THE OUTLINE OF THE DISTRICT.
THIS IS NOW THE AUTHORIZATION TO BORROW FUNDS FROM WITHIN THE STRUCTURE OF THE DISTRICT THAT YOU JUST CREATED.
SO SIMILAR TO THE ITEM THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THE CITY BORROWING FUNDS.
IN ORDER FOR US TO GO OUT TO THE BOND MARKET AND MAKE THIS BORROWING, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT AUTHORIZES THIS, THIS TAKING ON OF THIS DEBT.
NOW, AGAIN, TO MAKE IT CLEAR, THIS IS DEBT THAT WILL BE REPAID ONLY FROM THE MID WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S NOT GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT, IT'S NOT PAID BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
BUT NOW YOU'RE AT THE POINT THAT YOU'VE, SINCE YOU'VE PASSED EVERYTHING TO CREATE THE DISTRICT, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO AUTHORIZE THE BORROWING WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT THAT ALL MEANS, UM, AT THIS POINT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, YOU WANT CLARIFICATION WHAT MR. GRUBER JUST SAID, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, I HAVE ONE THING TO ADD FOR YOU.
AND IF YOU LOOK HERE, YOU SEE THIS LINE, IT SAYS CONFIRMED DESIGNATION OF A DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH YOUR NOTICE PROVISIONS AS WELL.
THE DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR THAT WILL BE SELECTED WILL BE THE ONE MAINTAINING THAT WEBSITE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND PUT IN THIS IS THE PROPERTY ADDRESS, WHAT IS THE ASSESSMENT ASSIGNED TO IT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, BEFORE THE PARCELS ARE SUBDIVIDED THE ASSESSMENTS ON THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AND AS THEY GET SECTIONED OFF, THE UH, UM, APPROPRIATE ASSOCIATED AMOUNTS WILL BE ASSIGNED TO THOSE.
SO THAT IS ALSO A STEP, UM, GOING BACK TO THAT DISCLOSURE CONCERN YOU HAD, THAT WILL BE ALSO, UM, HANDLED AS PART OF THIS OR ORDINANCE.
UM, LET'S GO TO, UH, MR. MESMAN.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, MR. MESMAN? WELL, I'M JUST GLAD THE EXPLANATION THAT WAS OUT THERE THAT THESE ARE NOT GENERAL OBLIGATION BEHIND THESE ARE FOR A SPECIFIC PORTION OF A DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE WERE UNAWARE, UH, MS. GUZMAN AND I WERE UNAWARE OF WHAT WE HAVE TERMED ROAD A IN THE MID WHEN WE CAME ONTO THIS COUNCIL.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED 20 YEARS AGO PERHAPS, BUT THROUGH THE HARD WORK OF STAFF WE'RE TO THIS POINT NOW, AND I THINK WE HAVE A VERY GOOD DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF US HERE THAT, UH, WILL SERVE THE NEEDS THAT, UH, AND OBLIGATIONS THAT WE WE HAVE AT THIS TIME.
SO REALLY, I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
I THINK THIS IS, IS GOOD TO GO.
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UM, I HAVE NO QUESTION, SIR, BECAUSE I THINK THE DOCUMENT IN ITSELF HAS SPELLED EVERYTHING OUT.AND I'M JUST, ONE THING THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IS NOBODY'S TAXES WENT UP AS A RESULT OF THIS.
SO, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING GOOD TO KNOW.
MR. WHITE, NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT MR. CARROLL? NO, SIR.
IT'S JUST, IT NEEDED TO BE EMPHASIZED AND IT WAS THAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT, UM, RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY OF THIS.
AND UH, I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, REPEAT WHAT YOU ALL SAID, BUT IT'S, IT IS, UM, THE OBLIGATION IS UP TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOMEOWNERS OF THAT DISTRICT.
UM, AT THIS POINT NOW, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 10 DASH 16 C.
MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ARE, UM, ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 10 DASH 16 C.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.
A RESOLUTION ONLY HAS ONE VOTE.
IT'S NOT LIKE AN ORDINANCE WHERE THERE'S TWO READINGS.
UH, THIS IS ADOPTING A POLICY REGARDING THE DEVELOPER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND DISCLOSURE.
DISCLOSURE OBLIGATIONS FOR MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS.
UM, THIS IS RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 10 DASH 16 D.
MR. GRUBER, WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT? YES, SIR.
UM, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY INDICATED EARLIER, THIS IS A RESOLUTION WHEREBY, UM, YOU ARE GOING TO SET FORTH YOUR EXPECTATIONS NOW FOR THIS, UM, MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND FOR ANY SUBSEQUENT MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS THAT COME FORWARD AS TO WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE DEVELOPER, PROVIDING PROACTIVE DISCLOSURE TO PROPERTY OWNERS PRIOR TO THEM PURCHASING A LOT THAT IS SUBJECT TO A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
UM, NOW AGAIN, IF THE PUBLIC, UH, HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A POLICY THAT REQUIRES THE DEVELOPERS TO GIVE HOME BUYERS THE PROPER INFORMATION ABOUT THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE ON THAT PROPERTY.
UM, SO MR. CARROLL, THE, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I'LL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC.
YOU ONCE AGAIN HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.
LISA BOYD, 2 35 SAND DOLLAR DRIVE, HARDY V.
QUICK QUESTION ON THIS IS WHAT THE, UH, COUNCIL ATTORNEY REFERRED TO THAT THIRD PARTY THAT WOULD BE HOSTING THE WEBSITE OR MAINTAINING IT ADMINISTRATIVELY, IS THIS GONNA BE IN THERE? THAT ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD REQUIRE THE SAME WEBSITE AS ONE OF SEVERAL REQUIREMENTS? YES.
THAT, UH, THE WAS A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC? OKAY, MR. MESMAN, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
SO, MR. WHITE, NO QUESTIONS MR. CARROLL? NO, SIR.
UM, AND AGAIN, JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF, UH, INFORMATION GIVEN TO US.
SO THIS MAY SEEM LIKE WE'RE BUZZING RIGHT THROUGH THIS.
IT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED THIS HORSE MORE THAN ONCE WE'VE RIDDEN THIS HORSE PAINT NEWS.
SO, UM, HAVING SAID THAT, NOW I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 10 DASH 16 D MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 2025 DASH 10 DASH 16 D.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE.
THAT RESOLUTION HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE NEXT AND LAST ITEM THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, DECIDE IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST TO RESCHEDULE THE NOVEMBER 20TH REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ACCOMMODATE ATTENDANCE AT
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THE BIG THURSDAY ANNUAL OYSTER ROAST, UH, BY JASPER COUNTY OR THE TCL FOUNDATION, UH, 2025 CHEF'S TABLE.UM, SO MR. GRUBER, UH, THIS DOESN'T SPECIFY A TIME.
DO WE HAVE A TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE TO GET THIS DONE? SO THAT IS AN OPEN QUESTION FOR YOU AND COUNSEL.
WE CAN EITHER LOOK AT CHANGING THE TIME AND KEEPING IT AT THE SAME DATE, OR WE CAN LOOK AT MOVING THE MEETING TO A SEPARATE DATE AS WELL AND KEEPING IT AT THE SAME TIME.
TYPICALLY, BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN GOING TO THIS THING, UM, BUT SOME OF US ARE, WILL BE GOING TO THE ISLAND FOR THE TCL EVENT, SO THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE LONGER TRAVEL TIME THAN GOING TO RIDGELAND.
SO, UH, HAVING SAID THAT, UM, I'LL START, UM, WITH STEVE AND ASK, DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE AS TO A TIME, ARE WE GONNA KEEP IT ON THAT THURSDAY THEN? I'D SAY AGAIN, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? I IF WE KEEP IT ON THAT THURSDAY, WHATEVER TIME I CAN SQUEEZE INTO A SUIT, I WILL IS FINE WITH ME.
UM, MRS. GUZMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY PREFERENCE? UH, I WOULD THINK THAT MAYBE CHANGING THE DATE MM-HMM
MIGHT WORK BETTER BECAUSE IF WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A MEETING AND FOR SOME REASON IT GOES OVER THE TIME, THEN WE ARE ALL JUST RUNNING DOWN THE ROAD TO BE SOMEWHERE ON TIME, SO MM-HMM
I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD TAKE THE PRESSURE OFF OF US HAVING TO RUN THROUGH THE MEETING.
UH, BUT IF WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DATE, I THINK IT MIGHT WORK OUT BETTER.
OH, I'M LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR AND WEDNESDAY IS THE THANKSGIVING GIVEAWAY OUT BACK FOR THE LOW COUNTRY FOOD PANTRY.
AND TUESDAY IS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB EVENT THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN INVITED TO.
UH, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A BIG WEEK.
UM, AND NOT THAT, LISTEN, THE, THE FOOD PANTRY DOESN'T REQUIRE US THERE, BUT IT, IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD SUPPORT.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A THANKSGIVING.
THAT'S WHEN THEY GIVE THE TURKEYS AWAY AND, AND YOU KNOW, OUR, AND I THINK WE SUPPORTED THAT IN A BIG WAY LAST YEAR.
LAST YEAR WE GAVE OTHER THINGS AWAY.
WE HAD, WE HAD COOKED SOUP AND SANDWICHES.
AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THAT EVENT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE STILL DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.
COULD WE DO A, A MORNING MEETING ON THURSDAY? IT'S OKAY WITH ME.
THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, IT'S REALLY A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT AS YOU SEE, WE DON'T NORMALLY GET A LOT OF THE PUBLIC, UM, HERE.
SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM 'CAUSE TWO O'CLOCK OR 10 O'CLOCK, IT'S STILL A WORK DURING WORKING HOURS.
I, UH, I THINK THE 10 O'CLOCK MORNING IS A GOOD SOLUTION AND DOESN'T HAVE PEOPLE RUSHING, RUSHING OR STEVE SQUEEZING INTO A SUIT.
YOU WON'T SLEEP WELL TONIGHT, WILL YOU, JOHN? THAT'S NOT, LET'S GO TO THERAPY.
I WANNA GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THIS GROUP HERE.
I NEED TO GET THAT OUTTA MY VISION.
SEE HOW THESE MEETINGS CAN DETERIORATE FAST AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIS FAULT.
THE GUY THAT YOU LIVE IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IN PARK
MR. COW, DO YOU HAVE ANY WHAT YOU GONNA ASK ME NOW IF I OH YEAH, OF COURSE.
YOU FINISHED, YOU KNOW, GIVING HIM GUFF.
IT DOESN'T MATTER MR. MAYOR, WHAT THE MAJORITY SAYS IS FINE.
SO YOU'RE, IF IT'S TWO OR 10, YOU'RE OKAY? YES, SIR.
UM, I, I PERSONALLY LIKE THE, THE 10 O'CLOCK I, I DON'T HAVE TO SQUEEZE AS MUCH, BUT I, I DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
SO, UM, IF EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH 10, JOSH IS STAFF GOOD? GOOD FOR 10? YES, SIR.
SO THEN THAT'S WHAT THE VOTE'S GONNA BE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CHANGE THAT? UH, NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING TO 10:00 AM MAKE A MOTION.
WE CHANGE THE NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING TO 10:00 AM I CAN SQUEEZE IN STARTING AT
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MM-HMMMAY I ASK FOR A MOTION? I MAY MAKE THE MOTION FOR 10.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF 10 O'CLOCK, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UH, ALL OPPOSED, NOBODY'S OPPOSED.
10:00 AM UH, WE'LL NOTIFY THE PUBLIC.
UM, WE NOW GO TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT.
UM, I'M SURE I WILL PROBABLY NOT BE THE ONLY ONE MAKING THESE COMMENTS THIS EVENING, BUT I DID WANNA MENTION THAT LAST WEEKEND WE HAD OUR FESTIVAL ON MAIN EVENT.
UM, AND I WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM, OBVIOUSLY EACH YEAR THEY LEAD THAT EFFORT AND THEY CONTINUE TO RAISE THE BAR AND OUTDO THEMSELVES YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE TO RECOGNIZE ALL OF THE OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.
THIS WAS AN ALL HANDS ON DECK EVENT.
EVERY DEPARTMENT, EVERY DIVISION PARTICIPATED.
THERE WERE PEOPLE VOLUNTEERING, AND IT WAS SO INCREDIBLY PROUD TO SEE EVERYBODY COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS EVENT REPRESENTED WHO WE ARE AS AN ORGANIZATION AND BENEFITED THE PUBLIC, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.
SO JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT EVENT AND MADE IT A REALLY SUCCESSFUL ONE.
WE'RE GONNA GO REVERSE ALPHABETICAL ORDER THIS WEEK.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD EXCEPT I, UH, GOT SOME WONDERFUL TREATMENT AT COASTAL CAROLINA FOR A KIDNEY STONE.
AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE AS A PERSON THAT MOVED FROM JOHNS HOPKINS IN BALTIMORE TO SEE THE EXCELLENT CARE WE HAVE HERE.
AND, UH, VERY GRATEFUL AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM AND THE EXCELLENT DOCTORS AND NURSES AND EVERYONE THERE, AND WHAT A WONDERFUL ASSET THAT IS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT JOSH SAID, UM, FESTIVAL ON MAINE WAS FANTASTIC.
UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF HELPING, UM, THE AND ALL STAFF MEMBERS WERE THERE, BUT, UH, MS. GUZMAN AND I ARE BOTH MEMBERS OF THE HARDY V CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY, AND WE HAD OUR OWN TENT SET UP THERE.
UM, AND WE HELPED MAN THAT AND HELPED MAN, UH, THE HARDY V POLICE DEPARTMENT'S, UH, TENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY THROUGH ALL OF THE, THE WEATHER THE WAY IT WAS.
I HAVE TO COMPLIMENT ALL OF THE STAFF, THE POLICE, FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE CITY STAFF, THEY NEVER SLOWED DOWN A BIT.
THEY, THEY TOOK IT ALL IN STRIDE, WHETHER WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF RAIN, A LOT OF BIT OF RAIN, BUT IT, UH, IT WAS JUST A FANTASTIC EVENT AND SO MANY PEOPLE HAD TO COMMENT WHEN THEY CAME IN THAT CAME IN OFF THE SHUTTLE, WHICH WORKED VERY WELL THIS YEAR.
THEY SAW, UH, THE JUJU HUDSON PARK AND IT HOLD BACK IN BACK THERE, AND THEY JUST SAID, WOW, THAT IT'S JUST AN AMAZING CHANGE AND WE'RE NOT DONE.
SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS EVENING, MR. MAYOR.
UM, DITO ON ALL OF WHAT THEY SAID.
UM, THE OPENING REOPENING OF THE JUJU HUDSON PARK WAS JUST OUTSTANDING.
TO WATCH THOSE KIDS RUN AND PLAY ON ALL THAT EQUIPMENT THAT WAS INSTALLED ON THERE WAS JUST, IT WAS JUST A SITE TO BEHOLD.
AND I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER FEATHER IN HARVILLE'S CAP WHEN IT GOES TOWARDS KIDS.
UM, THE FESTIVAL ON MAINE, WHAT CAN I SAY? I MEAN, IT'S, IT WAS, I, I THINK WE AS A CITY OUTDO OURSELVES EVERY YEAR, AND KUDOS GOES TO JEN AND HER STAFF AND ALL OF OUR, UM, CITY HALL FOLKS BECAUSE EVERY, IT WAS A, LIKE SOMEONE SAID, IT WAS ALL HANDS ON DECK AND EVERYBODY SHOWED UP TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS.
SO, UH, AND LIKE STEVE SAID, IT WAS OUR FIRST, UH, CITIZENS ACADEMY ALUMNI.
WE, UH, HOSTED A TENT AND WE HAD LOTS OF INQUIRIES AS TO HOW FOLKS COULD JOIN AND PARTICIPATE IN THE NEXT CLASS COMING UP.
SO WE GAVE THEM INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
UH, AND EVERYONE WAS VERY PLEASED WITH, UH, HOW THE FESTIVAL ON MAINE WAS GOING ON.
AND PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHT WAS, WAS A BALL HIT OUT THE PARK.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M GOOD.
UM, AGAIN, UM, KUDOS TO, TO JEN AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES.
IT WAS GOOD TO SEE OUR CITY MANAGER ALSO GOING THROUGH AND WALKING THROUGH AND, UH, ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS
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DOING SOMETHING.AND EVEN WITH THE BAD WEATHER, IT TURNED OUT REALLY GOOD.
AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THE CITY EMPLOYEES DOING THAT.
WE ALSO HAD A DEDICATION THAT PBURG, UM, REVOLUTIONARY WAR DEDICATION, AND THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE.
AGAIN, EVEN WITH THE WEATHER, WE JUST DIDN'T MAKE IT FULL, THE RAIN, BUT IT TURNED OUT REALLY GOOD.
AND THE JUJU HUDSON PARK, AGAIN, WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, A LOT THAT JEN DID AND APPRECIATE WHAT ALL SHE DID.
UM, ALSO, UH, LITTLE COUNTRY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL MEETINGS FOR THAT WITH TRYING TO FIND A NEW DIRECTOR.
AND, UM, THAT HAS BEEN A PRETTY TIME CONSUMING PROCESS AND WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF THAT.
BUT ELCO IS A LITTLE COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UM, BENEFITS THE CITY OF HARVILLE A LOT.
WE GET GRANTS AND ADVICE ON HOW TO WRITE GRANTS, AND WE'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS OVER THE YEARS FROM, FROM THIS, UM, AGENCY.
I THINK I TOLD HIM THE OTHER DAY WHEN I WAS IN THE OFFICE WITH HIM.
BUT, UM, I HAVE A, A DIFFERENT ROLE SOMETIME THAN THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DO WITH LOCAL PEOPLE.
AND THEY'LL CALL ME AND SOMETIME I CAN HELP 'EM AND SOMETIME I CAN'T.
BUT ANYTIME I HAVE TALKED TO JOSH AND CALLED JOSH, HE HASN'T HESITATED TO, UM, MAKE A PHONE CALL.
AND I, I KNOW OF AT LEAST TWICE AND I'M SURE I PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ALL THE TIMES HE HAS ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY LEFT THE OFFICE AND GONE AND MET, SAT DOWN AND MET WITH, UM, LOCAL PEOPLE ABOUT ISSUES.
AND, UM, WE'VE HAD A PARTICULAR ISSUE.
AND JOSH KNOWS, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT SOME OF THE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN VERY UPSET AND YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE, UM, ARBITRATION THAT, UH, JOSH HAS TRIED TO DO TO, UM, REMEDY THIS.
AND I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH A, WE ARE STILL AN ACTIVE DISCUSSION.
BUT ANYWAY, IT'S COMING ALONG.
BUT JO, RIGHT WAY, BUT JOSH DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
AND, UH, AND, AND HE HAS, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO ME AND, UH, CITIZENS OF HARDY VALVE.
AND LAST, UH, I DON'T, PROBABLY PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, BUT JASPER COUNTY LAST NIGHT DID A, UH, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT A FORUM.
AND, UM, IT WAS AT, UM, COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WERE THERE LAST NIGHT AND THEY GAVE A PRESENTATION OF WHAT THEIR DEPARTMENT DOES, LIKE WHAT THE TREASURER DOES, THE ASSESSOR, THE AUDITOR, UH, CLERK OF COURT, ALL THAT.
AND IT WAS, IT WAS NOT WELL ATTENDED, BUT, UM, IN ESSENCE, PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW.
AND THEN ALSO, WE LIVE IN A VIRTUAL REALITY WORLD, SO A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T GO, BUT THEY WATCH IT ONLINE.
BUT THE REASON I'M BRINGING IT UP, IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED IT, GO AND, AND LOOK ON THE, UM, JASPER COUNTY SITE AND IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT ALL THE, UM, YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS DO.
AND I THINK THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR.
UM, IT'S BEEN REALLY BUSY AND, UH, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HARP ON WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID, UM,
UH, BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE A DIFFERENT T THAT I, I TOUCHED ON WHEN I SHOWED YOU THE, THE VIDEO, WHAT I REALLY AM PROUD ABOUT STAFF AND JUJU HUDSON DEDICATION AND THE FESTIVAL, MAINE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
STAFF IS JUST NOT SATISFIED WITH JUST REPEATING WHAT THEY DID THE YEAR BEFORE THE FESTIVAL IN MAINE STARTED FROM SCRATCH.
AND THEY'VE, IT'S GROWN EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
'CAUSE EVERY YEAR THEY LOOK AT NEW WAYS, NEW ADDITIONS, HOW DO WE MAKE IT BETTER? AND THAT'S THE ATTITUDE OF THIS CITY THAT I'M MOST PROUD OF.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM AND TO BE CREATIVE IN OUR APPROACH TO HOW THINGS GET DONE.
PARKS AND RECREATION IS A, A GREAT EXAMPLE IN OUR EPITOME OF EXACTLY THAT KIND OF THINKING.
SO MY CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING INNOVATIVE AND MAKING THIS FESTIVAL GROW.
EACH YEAR, UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RIBBON CUTTINGS THEY MENTIONED.
THEY MENTIONED MILLSTONE LANDING.
AND FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE NOT BEEN DOWN THERE AND SEE THOSE HISTORICAL MARKERS, WHICH EXPLAINS SOME OF THE EVENTS OF THE CIVIL WAR THAT HAPPENED DOWN IN BURG, UH, THE DAUGHTERS OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION PUT UP A MARKER THERE
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AS WELL.SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, IT'S A GREAT WAY IN A VERY CONCISE MANNER.
THERE'S A TOTAL OF, I THINK FOUR OF 'EM.
FOUR OR FIVE, RIGHT? THAT ONE IN THE ONE AT THE BEGINNING.
THE, YEAH, THE ONE, SO TOTAL OF FIVE THAT EXPLAINED SOME OF THE EVENTS.
AND AT THAT THING, ONE, IT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.
THERE WAS A DESCENDANT OF ONE OF THE, UM, MILITIAMEN WHO FOUGHT IN THAT BATTLE OF PERRYSBURG IN, IN THE 18TH SUN.
AND ONE OF HIS RELATIVES HAD, UH, DONE A, UM, GENEALOGY TRACE THAT WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THEIR ANCESTRY IN ENGLAND IN THE 17TH CENTURY.
SO IT WAS KIND OF, KIND OF COOL, YOU KNOW.
UM, SO THAT'S A LITTLE, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I GIVE CREDIT TO THE TWO 50 ORGANIZATION TRYING TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF THIS AREA.
I, I, JOHN'S STILL TRYING TO TEACH ME HOW TO SAY BURG PUREY BURG.
LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, HE'S 10 YEARS.
HE'S, HE'S BEEN TEACH, TRYING TO TEACH ME.
UM, SO IT, I I THINK THAT'S A, A GREAT EVENT.
WE ALSO HAD, WE GET CONSTANTLY TALKED AND ASKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH ALL THE GROWTH THAT'S GONE ON.
TWO WEEKS AGO, B-J-W-S-A HAD A TURNING ON CEREMONY AND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT DOWN IN PERRYSBURG, ALONG THE SAVANNAH RIVER, THEY DOUBLED THEIR DAILY CAPACITY FROM 15 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO 30.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MANY INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT, UH, THE CITY IS CONSTANTLY WORKING WITH B-J-W-S-A, THE ELECTRIC COMPANIES, THE POWER COMPANIES, TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO PLAN FOR AND START BUILDING FOR OUR FUTURE.
UM, AND TODAY, UH, THE MORGAN TRACK, WHICH IS NEXT TO, UM, MARGARITAVILLE AND CAUSING ALL THAT BURNING, UM, THEY HAD A, THEY HAD A GROUNDBREAKING.
AND, UH, THE ONE MY COMMENTS WERE, AND I, I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, PARTNERS LIKE THAT, LIKE DR HORTON MINTO, IN THE CASE OF MARGARITAVILLE, UH, UH, THE HOYER INVESTMENT GROUP WHO BOUGHT THAT ENTIRE TRACK, THIS COUNCIL HAS PUT THESE DEVELOPERS THROUGH THE RINGER.
THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED 10 YEARS AGO.
WE'VE ASKED FOR ACTIVE OPEN SPACES.
SO THAT PARKS, PICKLEBALL, COURTS, WHATEVER CAN BE PUT, THEY HAVE OPEN SPACES TO UTILIZE WHATEVER THAT COMMUNITY WANTS.
LIKE YOU SAW IN THE VIDEO, THEY WILL HAVE COMMERCE, THEY'LL HAVE INTERIOR ROADS.
ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE PUT IN THERE SO THAT THESE LITTLE COMMUNITIES, THESE CITY WITHIN A CITY THAT I MENTIONED, CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR DAILY NEEDS WITHOUT GOING ON TO THE MAJOR HIGHWAYS.
THEY WILL ALSO, HOPEFULLY, WITH LEAVING ROOM FOR SCHOOLS, FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, SUBSTATIONS, THINGS THAT AGAIN, AND HOPEFULLY WILL HAVE HEALTHCARE BUILDINGS ALSO COME INTO THESE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL, SO THAT OUR KIDS THAT GO IN THERE, BECAUSE THESE ARE FAMILY COMMUNITIES WE'RE BUILDING, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RIDE THEIR BIKE ON A SIDEWALK, HOPEFULLY RIDE IT TO A SCHOOL, THEY'LL, OR RIDE IT TO THE PLAYGROUND OR A BASKETBALL COURT OR WHATEVER GETS PUT IN THOSE ACTIVE OPEN SPACES, AND THEY CAN DO SO SAFELY.
SO THIS IS WHAT THIS COUNCIL, I APPLAUD THEM, APPLAUD 'EM.
THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD WHEN THESE DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD TO US.
AND I, I THINK THE COUNCIL'S DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS OF MAKING THAT HAPPEN.
UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS WHO, UH, HELD PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, IT'S THE FAMILIES.
MRS. GUZMAN SAID IT, YOU COME TO THESE EVENTS AND WHAT DO YOU SEE? YOU SEE KIDS, FAMILIES COMING IN, GOING ON THE RIDES THAT ARE SET UP.
AND, AND PUBLIC SAFETY NIGHT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE POLICE AND FIREMEN TO INTERACT WITH THE FAMILIES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, THE, UM, WE DID THIS STATE ROOM, UM, WEDNESDAY NIGHT WAS LAST NIGHT WAS THE FIR
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WAS THE YOUTH COUNCIL.UM, OUR MAYOR IS, UH, FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL OF ORLAND, UH, MR. 80 CRUZ.
AND THE MAYOR, PRO TEM IS A YOUNG LADY, ESSENCE JEFFERSON FROM ROYAL LIVE OAKS ACADEMY.
AND SHE IS A GRANDDAUGHTER OF GWEN, FORMERLY OF GWEN AND FRANNIE'S.
AND I DID HAVE HIS, HER SIS, HER BROTHER EDISON, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHO ALSO SERVED ON THE YOUTH COUNCIL.
UH, SO WE HAD NINE PEOPLE, NINE, NINE STUDENTS LAST NIGHT.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST YOUTH COUNCIL MEETING WE'VE HAD.
SO, UH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY ENGAGED, IT TOOK THEM THIS, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE QUALITY OF WHAT, WHAT THIS GROUP IS.
THEY WENT THROUGH THREE VOTES, THREE FIRST THREE GOT TURNED DOWN.
THEY DIDN'T GET ENOUGH VOTES BE THEY WERE DECIDING ON WHAT THEY WANNA WORK ON THIS YEAR.
SO, AND AS I SAID TO THEM, WHAT I LIKED ABOUT IT IS THAT THE FACT THAT HERE WE HAVE, UH, STUDENTS COME IN, THEY DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER AND THEY HAVE DEFINITE OPINIONS.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE, HAD THE WILLINGNESS AND THE STRENGTH OF CHARACTER TO SAY NO.
AND, AND THAT TELLS ME A LOT ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THIS YEAR'S YOUTH COUNCIL.
UM, ONE OTHER ITEM THAT, OH, AND WE, THE GROUP OF US WENT TO TCL.
THERE WAS THIS TASTING CONTEST.
UH, THE STUDENT CHEFS AT TCL CULINARY INSTITUTE, UH, GAVE US, UM, VARIOUS COURSES.
AND, UM, THAT NEXT STAGE IN THAT COMPETITION IS WHAT SOME OF US WILL GO TO ON THAT NOVEMBER 20TH.
THAT'S CALLED THE CHEF'S TABLE OUT IN, UM, BY HARBORTOWN.
AND LASTLY, THERE HAS BEEN A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS, AND WE THANK MR. MESMAN FOR THIS, UM, AMONG US.
AND WE HAVE ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING FORWARD A NEW ORDINANCE REGARDING THE BURNING OF DEBRIS BY THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
THERE ARE CERTAIN, AND, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE, LOCAL ORDINANCES CANNOT SUPERSEDE STATE LAW, BUT WE CAN, WE, UH, MODIFY OUR LOCAL ORDINANCES.
AND I'VE ASKED CITY MANAGER, AND MR. MESMAN HAS, AND I'VE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE ABOUT GETTING A NEW ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF US.
I DON'T KNOW, PINA, DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG AGO IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, THE BURN? IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THE, IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHERE WE DID EXTEND THE DISTANCES, BUT APPARENTLY WHAT WE DID BACK THEN IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE CONCERNS EVERY TIME THE WIND BLOWS IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION.
SO WE'RE, EVERYBODY IN OUR CITY IS BEING AFFECTED.
WE HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES AND TAKE A STRONGER STANCE SO THAT, UM, WE, WE PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS FROM THE KIND OF AIR POLLUTION THAT IS HARMFUL TO EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, MORE ON THAT AS WE, AS WE GET THAT PUT TOGETHER.
BUT MR. GRUBER, I, I KNOW HE GAVE YOU THE CARD.
HE'LL EXPLAIN EVERYTHING IN GREATER DETAIL TO YOU.
UM, ONE OTHER ITEM OF BUSINESS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.