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IS FURTHER SOUTH FROM US.SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT MOST, I THINK SOME OF THE EARLIEST THAT THIS WAS ALSO EITHER PART OF THE REFUGE OR IT WAS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS NOT PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND IT'S NOT THE REFUGE.
SO MOST OF OUR BORDERING IS OVER HERE ON THE NORTH END, AND IT'S PRETTY MINIMAL COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER.
AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF, I MEAN, JUST EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE WITH PLAYGROUND.
THEY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, NICE LOOKING BUILDINGS, UH, NICE ACCENTS, LOTS OF WINDOWS.
SO THEY, THEY'RE, IN MY OPINION AS MUCH AS A WAREHOUSE COULD BE VEHICLE PULLING.
THESE ARE PRETTY VISUAL APPEALING, UM, DEVELOPMENTS.
UM, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA TURN IT OVER TO COUNSEL.
AND, UM, WE'LL SEE THE QUESTIONS AND THAT WE HAVE, THIS IS THE WORKSHOP.
WE, WE HAVE WORKSHOPS, SO WE'RE NOT PRESSURED TO MAKE A DECISION IN FIVE MINUTES YET.
UH, SO THIS WILL, IT IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE 16TH.
I GIVES THIS WILL WEEK TO WHAT BE HERE TODAY AND, UH, ASK ME FURTHER QUESTIONS.
STAFF SEE THE MANAGER IN THE NEXT COUPLE IN SEVEN DAYS BEFORE WE COME BACK AND HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.
IT, I, WE DON'T SEE THIS IN A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES, THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO GO VOTE ON IT.
WELL, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE YOU, YOU ARE A GOOD COMPANY, RIGHT? A LEGITIMATE COMPANY.
AND I'VE MET THE OWNER AND I'VE TOLD THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE ORDERS THAT, UH, AND THE MEETING I HAVE WITH THEM, UM, THE, THESE, THESE ARE GOOD PROJECTS, RIGHT.
BUT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE IF THERE ARE GOOD PROJECTS IN GOOD LOCATIONS.
SO WE'LL OPEN UP THE COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS AND WHAT QUESTIONS THEY HAVE AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION.
YOU WANT ME TO SIT DOWN OR STAND OR WHAT? YOU CAN SIT DOWN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU KNOW,
COUNSEL, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, I CAN START.
UM, YOUR HONOR, COULD YOU PULL IT BACK UP THE CURRENT MAP TO SHOW WHERE THE PROPERTIES ARE FOR ME, PLEASE? YOU WANT THERE? THAT WORKS RIGHT THERE.
WHAT ROAD IS THIS COMING OFF HERE? 17.
WELL, THIS, THIS, IT SHOWS A, THIS IS WHERE 17 GOES.
THIS, THAT, THIS IS, THAT'S A BACK, BACK UP, THAT BACK CUT THROUGH.
UM, THE WILDLIFE REFUGE HAS THEIR, UM, CENTER BACK IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT ROAD IS ACTUALLY USED BY THAT OR OTHERWISE, BUT, WELL, IT INTERSECTS BACK IN WITH 17.
SO THAT'S THE, IF YOU WERE GONNA GO SOUTH ON 17, YOU WOULD COME ACROSS AND YOU WOULD TAKE THAT IN A TURN RIGHT.
MR. SMITH, ANY, IF YOU, ANY TIME ANYBODY HAS SOMETHING TO SAY, 'CAUSE WE ARE BEING FILMED AND ALL THESE MICROPHONES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE EVERYTHING.
SO PLEASE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO, UH, TO TALK, BUT PLEASE COME UP WHEN YOU DO.
AND WHAT I WAS GONNA ADD TO, TO THAT IS THERE, ARE THERE SOME SLIGHT RECONFIGURATIONS THAT MAY GO IN PLACE DUE TO THE WIDENING AND EVERYTHING ELSE? THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON SOME OF THOSE PLANTS OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE KEEPING A MONITOR ON IT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S OTHER THINGS GOING ON OUT THERE, UM, AS WELL MAKE BETTER.
ARE THESE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS CORRECTLY? UM, THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS.
I THINK IF YOU SEE IN THE, UM, SEE IF I CAN GET BACK TO THE CORRECT LOOKS.
UM, SEE HOW THEY'RE DIVIDED CURRENTLY? YES.
ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S USE THE BUTTONS.
MAYBE I CAN GO THE RIGHT WAY FOR THAT.
THAT'S, THIS IS HOW THEY'RE CURRENTLY SUBDIVIDED AND THIS IS HOW THEY PROPOSE TO BE SUBDIVIDED.
CURRENTLY THE RV PARK IS AT THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? CURRENTLY? YES.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE NORTH END.
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OKAY.UM, QUESTIONS? A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT I DO HAVE.
UM, THE WATER AND SEWER, UH, PROPOSAL WILL BE IN PLACE.
WHEN DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ON THAT? I'M GONNA ASK MATT.
DOES MATT AND HIS GROUP, THE SELLERS ARE HANDLING THE INSTALLATION OF THE WATER AND THE SEWER? OKAY.
MY NAME IS MATT TRUMPS, UM, UH, ALMOST A LIFELONG BU PERONIAN, 50 OF MY, UH, 56 YEARS.
MY PARTNER'S, UH, JOHN SANFORD, ALSO ALMOST A LIFELONG, UH, BU PERONIAN.
UM, WE OWN FIVE, UH, RV PARKS, INCLUDING THIS ONE, UH, SOMERVILLE MEADOW, GEORGIA CORDELL, GEORGIA WALTERBORO.
AND THIS ONE WE'RE PERMITTED TO BUILD 250 SPACES, UM, ON SITE.
UM, WE ARE ABOUT 90% COMPLETE WITH THE BACK FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS 80 RV SPACES.
UM, THE INTENT WAS TO BUILD THE ENTIRE PARK OUT AND THE INTENT WILL BE TO BUILD THE ENTIRE PARK OUT SHOULD THIS DEAL WITH CFRI NOT GO THROUGH.
WE WERE APPROACHED BY CFRI DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, AND WE DETERMINED THAT WE COULD LIVE WITH THE 80 SPACES ON THE BACK.
IT WOULD, UM, REDUCE THE BURDEN ON JASPER COUNTY PROVIDING SERVICES TO AN ADDITIONAL 170, UH, RV SPACES THAT WE CAN AND WILL BUILD.
UM, FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH BUFORT JASPER, UH, OVER WATER AND SEWER.
THE SEWER LINE IS ACROSS THE STREET.
THE ORIGINAL, UH, WATER SERVICE WAS ABOUT, UM, 30 SOME ODD HUNDRED FEET DOWN THE ROAD AT RIVERPORT.
ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE COMPLETED INSTALLATION, A MILLION DOLLARS INSTALLATION OF AN 18 INCH, UH, OF WATER MAIN THAT COMES RIGHT TO THE, UM, I GUESS THAT'S THE WESTERN SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BORING UNDER, UM, I GUESS THAT'S 17, UM, RIGHT NOW TO BRING THE SEWER LINE ONTO THE PROPERTY.
AND WE'RE COMPLETING, WE WILL COMPLETE ALL OF THAT IN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR WEEKS.
WILL THE WATER LINE THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN BE SUFFICIENT TO, FOR YOUR 77 UNITS OR THE 144 AND THE WAREHOUSE? THE WAREHOUSE WILL HAVE A TREMENDOUSLY LESS DEMAND THAN THE 170 RV BAR SPOTS THAT, UM, ARE, ARE GOING TO BE PUT IN RV SPOTS.
WELL, LET'S JUST PUT IT THIS WAY.
THAT 18 INCH WATER LINE WOULD PROBABLY SERVE ALL OF DOWNTOWN SAVANNAH.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, I'VE NEVER EVEN CONCEIVED OF AN 18 INCH WATER LINE, BUT WE WERE, WE WERE, WE WERE ABLE TO SERVE THE PROPERTY WITHIN AN EIGHT INCH WATER LINE.
AND BUFORD, JASPER BASICALLY ENCOURAGED US AND MADE US PAY FOR AN UPGRADE, AN ADDITIONAL 10 INCHES OF SERVICE.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF SUPPLY THERE.
WHO GETS THE ADDITIONAL TAP ON FEES? OTHERS? TEN ONE.
I'M, I'M WAITING ON A, A REBATE FROM THEM RIGHT NOW AND IT HASN'T COME IN MY, IN MY CHECKING ACCOUNT YET.
UM, THE, UH, ACCESS FOR THE RVS INTO THE BACK, IS THAT AN EASEMENT OR IS THAT A, THE, HOW, HOW IS THAT THE, OUR ENTRANCE TODAY IS WHERE RIP UH, IS, WHERE CREED'S ENTRANCE WOULD BE.
WE'VE ALREADY PUT THAT, THAT TURN LANE IN, IN THE DESAL LANE.
SHOULD THIS DEAL GO THROUGH WITH SIEGFRIED? AS DOUG SAID, WE WILL SHIP OUR ENTRANCE DOWN SO THAT WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN ENTRANCE, BUT THE ENTRANCE THAT, THAT SIEGFRIED WOULD BE USING IS, IS THERE TODAY.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE WOULD OWN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEY WOULD HAVE AN EASEMENT TO USE IT.
SO WE WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT ON OUR PROPERTY, WE'LL BUILD IT FOR THEM, AND THEN WE'LL PROVIDE THEM WITH AN EASEMENT TO USE IT.
THAT WAS PART OF OUR AGREEMENT TO BUY THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE OTHER THING I HAVE IS ON 17, I HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH RVS DOING THAT U-TURN, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR HAS A HUGE FORD F SIX 50 TRUCK AND A 47 FOOT FIFTH WHEEL.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA PULL NO U-TURN AT THAT INTERSECTION.
THEY, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF U-TURNS ANY PLACE ANYTIME FOR ANY VEHICLES.
I KNOW THEY ARE ALLOWED, BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE ON 17, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE MAIN LOGGING ROOM.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THE LOGS ARE GOING.
AND THEY'RE GONNA CUT RIGHT THROUGH ALLIGATOR ALLEY OVER TO THE MILLS OVER THERE.
UM, I WOULD RATHER SEE SOMETHING WHERE THEY WOULD'VE TO GO FURTHER UP AND TURN AND DO AN ACTUAL TURN THAN PULL THOSE U-TURNS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT DOT SAYS THAT'S FINE.
I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.
UM, I JUST DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE IT.
AND SO I THINK SOMETIMES THOSE WITH DOT DON'T HAVE TO DO IT EITHER.
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UM, I HEAR YOU ON THAT AND IT, LOOK, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH OUR TRAFFIC, UH, UH, CONSULTANT RELATIVE TO THAT.BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, THE, THE MOVEMENT FOR THE RV PARK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ONLY 70 SPACES BACK THERE, IS GOING TO BE FAIRLY MINIMAL.
AND I DO THINK THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE FOLKS WILL BE COMING FROM THE INTERSTATE DOWN TO THE RV PART.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL YOU KNOW THAT.
AND SO, UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, UM, BUT I'LL, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT YES.
WHO THEN CAN GO HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH YES.
UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF NEW OWNERS OF RVS
UM, THE LAST QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS WITH CLARION.
THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH CLARION LOCALLY HERE BEFORE.
THAT CORRECT ME? THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, WE DON'T LIKE CLARIUS EITHER.
MY OTHER CONCERN, NOT A CONCERN IS, IS MY QUESTION IS, IS CURRENTLY THE RV PARK IS USING, UH, I TAKE IT, UH, UH, MOUND SEWAGE OR WHAT ARE YOU USING CURRENTLY FOR THE RV PARK? AS FAR AS, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT OPEN YET.
SO IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE OPEN IN THE NEXT 45 TO 60 DAYS THAT BACK, THE BACK PHASE, THE PHASE, THE BACK FACE.
BUT, UH, IT WILL HAVE WATER AND SEWER.
IT WILL BE SERVED WITH PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER PROVIDED BY BEAVER, JASPER WATERER.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I HAVE A QUESTION, ANDRENA, IS THERE A WAY WE CAN SEE WHERE THE BOUNDARIES, THE GROWTH BOUNDARY FOR, UH, CITY? DO YOU HAVE ONE SHOW I'LL SHOW YOU ON, UM, ANOTHER SIDE? YES.
IT FOLLOWS THE CITY LIMITS LINE.
UM, HERE IT COMES DOWN HERE, THE BOTTOM OF THE RIVER REPORT AND GOES DOWN, UM, THREE 15 HOW 17? 2, 3 15.
SO IT, THIS, THIS IS WILDLIFE REFUGE PROPERTY THAT SITS BETWEEN US AND THIS PROPERTY.
AND SO THE BOUNDARY COMES RIGHT HERE AND HUGS THE BOTTOM AND THEN GOES DOWN THE, UM, 17.
SO THAT IS, THAT SHOWS YOU THE, THE BOUNDARY.
SO THIS PROPERTY IS OUTSIDE OF OUR GROUP BOUNDARY? YES.
SO CURRENTLY WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH JUST COUNTY TO BE RESPONSIBLE WITH EACH OTHER'S ROOF BOUNDARIES AND NOT STEP ON EACH OTHER'S TOES SIDE OF OUR GROUP.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT SENT.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION, SEAN? ACTUALLY, YES, SIR.
BUT I WANT FOLLOW UP ON VAL'S.
UM, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAD, Y'ALL HAD MET WITH JA COUNTY PLANNING, PLANNING COMMISSION DID AS WELL.
AND WHAT WAS KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON VAL, WHAT SHE SAID.
WHAT DID, WHAT WAS THE, I GUESS LIKE A CONSENSUS I GUESS, ABOUT THIS? UM, DOES THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL AS US, UM, AFTER THEIR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTIES WHEN THEY CAME TO US, UM, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT IN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, THEY, THEY ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF WAREHOUSES AT, AT THIS LOCATION EITHER.
WAS MY, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM, UM, THE MEMBERS OF PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ATTENDED
UM, AND I'M, I'M FAMILIAR BASED, UM, WITH SOME OF THIS AREA.
I KNOW WHERE THE NAME LUCK NOW CAME FROM BECAUSE I USED TO, BACK WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY, I'D GO BACK UP IN THERE AND DO FISHING AND STUFF.
AND JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY FROM IN MY MIND AS A REAL NICE BRICK HOUSE THERE IN POND AS YOU GOING AROUND THE CURVE, UM, WHAT, HOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M CALLING MY AROUND, I SAID REAL, AS YOU HEAD AROUND THAT CURVE HEADING TOWARD, UH, FORT PLE, AS SOON AS YOU GET AROUND THE CURVE IS A HUGE BRICK HOUSE AND THE POND.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT WAS LUCK NOW.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE NAME LUCK NOW CAME FROM.
AND I JUST, IN MY MIND, AM TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT RELATIONSHIP, BECAUSE IT'S, RIGHT NOW THE HOUSE IS ABANDONED.
AND, UM, IN MY MIND, I'M TRYING TO THINK 'CAUSE I KNOW IT ORDERED THE, UM, REFUGE THAT THEY HAD THE YEARS AGO.
THEY HAD SOME ISSUES ABOUT PROPERTY CHANGES
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AND STUFF.UM, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT HOUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT? I OWN IT.
THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 70 SOME ODD OR JUST UNDER 70 ACRES.
UH, THE HOUSE CAME WITH THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT, IT WAS ALL ONE PARCEL.
UH, WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE WAS BEING LIVED IN BY A BUNCH OF IGNORANCE.
IT WAS SOMETHING UNBELIEVABLE.
IT'S BEEN REPAINTED RE FLOORED.
UM, THE INTENT WAS TO USE IT AS BASICALLY A, A REC CENTER FOR THE RV PARK.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'LL DO.
WE WILL, UM, WE, WE PUT THE BATHROOMS IN AND SOME SHOWERS AND WE PROBABLY PUT A LAUNDRY FACILITY IN THE BACKSIDE OF IT.
POOL ROOM, YOU KNOW, JUST AN OPEN TV AREA AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I, I, I CAN GO BACK IN HISTORY AND STUFF, BUT THAT HOUSE WAS SPECIALLY BUILT.
EVERY, EVERY ROOM IN THAT HOUSE HAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WOOD.
IT'S A, BECAUSE THE GUY THAT OWNED IT OWNED, UH, HE, UM, OWNED ONE OF THE, UH, LOGGING LUMBER COMPANIES.
SO THAT HOUSE WAS A, IT WAS, I MEAN, IT WAS SPECIALLY BUILT.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA BE RESTORED.
BUT I WAS TRYING IN MY MIND, 'CAUSE I KNEW THE REFUGE AND THAT HOUSE AND THEN THAT PROPERTY.
YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO CHECK IT OUT.
BUT YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANYTHING WORTH SALVAGE WHEN YOU SAW IT FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO? WELL, IT, IT WAS SAD.
'CAUSE I WOULD GO BY THERE AND I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SEE IT.
UM, AND IT HAS A NICE POND THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE TOO.
I USED GO IN THERE QUITE A BIT TOO.
THAT KIND OF HELPS ME WITH THE CONCEPT OF WHERE AND THE REFUGE IS LOCATED.
AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT HOUSE WILL REMAIN ON THE BACK RV PIECE.
IT WOULD NOT BE A PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROCESS.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO THE REFUGE AND THE, UM, THAT IS A WONDERFUL HOUSE.
UM, I, I HAVE A FEW, BUT I, UM, WE ALL RECEIVED, UH, A RATHER LENGTHY, UM, LETTER FROM NATHAN.
UM, MATTHEW ACTUALLY REGARDING THEIR OBJECTION TO, TO THIS, BUT I WANT TO, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT PARTICULARLY JUMPED OUT AT ME IS ONE PHRASE.
UM, THEY REFERRED TO THIS AS SPOT ZONING.
AND, UM, THE, I SAY BY BUILDING A WAREHOUSE ON THIS PARCEL, KING FISHER POND, THE POPULAR RECREATION AREA WITH HIKING TRAILS WOULD BECOME SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO INDUSTRIAL SITES WITH 18 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSING ALREADY PERMITTED WITHIN CITY LIMITS.
AND WITH THE OPEN DECLARATION FROM THE DEVELOPER THAT THIS WOULD BE A SPEC BILL WITH NO KNOWN TENANTS IDENTIFIED TO OCCUPY IT AS OF YET.
A QUESTION WOULD BE COULD ALSO BE WHY HERE, WHY THIS SPOT? THERE ARE, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF THINGS AND STAFFS FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND SO IS COUNSEL THAT I HAVE OBJECTED TO.
NOT BECAUSE IT WASN'T A GOOD PROJECT AND NOT BECAUSE IT WASN'T GOOD PEOPLE DOING THAT PROJECT, AND NOT BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD OWNER MM-HMM
UM, BUT 'CAUSE IT WAS IN A BAD SPOT.
AND IF YOU HAD COME TO ME HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO AND SAY, I WANT TO BUILD A 350,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE ON SPEC, I WOULD DIRECT YOU TO EITHER SALT OR RIVER MM-HMM
THE WATER SEWER LINES ARE ALREADY BEING IN THERE.
THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TRUCKS ARE COMING IN AND OUT OF, THAT'S WHERE EXIT THREE WILL SERVICE IT.
THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS IN TERMS OF, OKAY, LET'S FILL UP THAT SPACE FIRST.
LET'S BUILD, LET'S PUT THE 18 MILLION SQUARE FEET FIRST.
ALL THE CONSIDERATIONS ASIDE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS COSTS VERSUS A, YOU KNOW, 30 ACRES IN RIVERPORT, YOU KNOW.
A THAT'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
BUT FROM A CITY PLANNING STANDPOINT, THIS IS NOT WHERE I WOULD PUT A 350,000 SQUARE FOOT YES.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT, THAT ALWAYS COMES BACK WITH BEING ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD PROJECT, IS IT THE RIGHT PLACE TO GO? MM-HMM
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FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY AVAILABLE LAND FOR USES SUCH AS THIS.UM, A COUPLE OF NOTES THAT I, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE MADE.
AND, UH, NUMBER ONE, THE FIRST THING ABOUT CONTROL AND HAVING THE ENTRY POINT, THERE'S NO BETTER LOOKING OF THE GATEWAY CAR THAN LEAVING THE NATURAL TREES THERE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH ALSO IN THE PAST ABOUT DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THIS.
AND I HAD ONE GENTLEMAN THREE YEARS AGO, UH, SAID, WELL, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PUT THERE? AND I SAID, TREES, LEAVE THE TREES THERE.
SOME THINGS ARE IN THE WRONG SPOT.
SO I THINK FROM AN ENTRY POINT INTO OUR CITY, WHAT'S THERE NOW IS PROBABLY A BETTER ENTRY POINT VISUAL THAN A 350,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
THAT'S MY, JUST MY OWN OPINION.
WELL, THERE WILL BE CERTAINLY IF MY, IF I MAY, UM, THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE UNDISTURBED BUFFER BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE BUILDING.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BUILDING, BUT IT, IT, IT CERTAINLY, YOU'LL STILL HAVE A LOT OF TREES ON THE SITE.
AND I UNDERSTAND BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE ROAD.
BUT, UH, THE, IT WILL BE, IT WILL BE QUITE VISIBLE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S BETTER.
UM, THERE, THERE IS A LOW SERVICE NEED AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT YOU MADE.
UM, BUT THERE ALSO IS A LOW SERVICE NEED FOR RV PARK TOO.
UM, AND I THINK THE JOB ESTIMATES, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT'S SUBDIVISION, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS GOES IN THERE.
STRAIGHT WAREHOUSING IN AND OUT.
I THINK YOUR ESTIMATES WERE A LITTLE HIGH BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT RIVERPORT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
UH, THE TAXI, YOU, IT'S VERY TRUE.
BUT AGAIN, IF YOU BUILT 350,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IN RIVERPORT, THE TAXES WOULD, WE'D STILL HAVE THE SAME TAXES AGAIN, IT COMES BACK.
WHERE, WHERE'S THE BEST THING NOT FOR YOU AND NOT FOR THE OWNER, BUT FOR THE CITY MM-HMM
UM, THE, I I STILL THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC, I MADE THE SAME NOTICE, STEVE, THOSE BIG RVS MAKING U-TURNS THAT I I, I WILL SERIOUSLY OBJECT TO THAT.
UM, IF, IF WE HAVE ANY, UH, INPUT INTO DOT'S DECISIONS, RIGHT.
WE SEE THAT, THAT THERE'S A BIG ACCIDENT YESTERDAY.
PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THESE SIDE ROAD ZONES AT 2 78, MAKING LEFT HAND TURNS ON THE MEDIAN CUTS ARE SOMETHING THAT WERE DONE BY DOT YEARS AGO.
AND THEY'RE TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE RISK.
UM, SO, UM, THE, UH, I I, AND I SAID THIS TO THE OWNERS WHEN WE MET, I THINK WE NEED IN TERMS OF, OKAY, WHAT'S THE BEST USE WHEN IT COMES TO TRAFFIC? YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU SAY THAT HAVING THOSE BIG TRUCKS OR PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS, I CAN TELL YOU GO TO EXIT FIVE AND WATCH THOSE PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS SAY, HEY, I'M BIGGER THAN YOU.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY EXIT FIVE IS A, IS A CONSTANT PROBLEM.
SO THOSE PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS, I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS SOME DATA.
OKAY? IF WE ADDED HOWEVER MANY RV SPOTS THERE VERSUS ADDING WAREHOUSES, AND THEY'RE ALL NOT ALL GOING TO GO TO PORT
IF THEY COME IN AND THEY PUT THEIR LOADS IN THIS WAREHOUSE.
NOW THOSE LOADS ARE GOING TO GET DISTRIBUTED TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PORTS.
SO THOSE MAYBE SMALLER TRUCKS, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN ALL DIRECTIONS AND THEY'RE COMING OUT AT THAT POINT THAT WE ALL ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
THE TURN AREA OF THAT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS CONCERNED.
I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PREVIOUS, UH, MEETINGS THAT THAT CONCERN HAS BEEN.
AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT CONCERN, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM ME, HAS BEEN ALLEVIATED.
I I'VE GOT SOME SEVERE RESERVATIONS.
NOT ABOUT YOU, NOT ABOUT THE OWNERS, NOT ABOUT THE PROJECT, IT'S ABOUT THE
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LOCATION.I, I HEAR YOUR POINTS ON ALL THAT.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, THERE WEREN'T OPPORTUNITIES TO BUY ANYTHING IN RIVERPORT OR SOLVE IT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
BUT AGAIN, I'M THINKING OF THE CITY.
WHERE IF, IF PROJECT A, WHERE'S THE BEST PARK PLACE TO PUT IT? I'VE HAD BIG FIGHTS WITH THE COUNTY OVER THE YEARS, UH, ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I'VE HAD BIG FIGHTS WITH MY OWN COUNCIL, ALL WITH THAT CENTRAL POINT BEING AT, AT, AT, AND, AND I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
THERE WAS A, A LANDOWNER WHO'S REALLY GOOD GUY, AND HE RECENTLY DIED AT AGE 98.
I HEARD, UH, HE DONATED SOME THINGS TO THE CITY AND I THOUGHT THAT WHAT HE WANTED TO DO VEHEMENTLY RIGHT, BECAUSE IT WAS IN A BAD LOCATION.
SO, UH, I LOST THAT BY THE WAY.
BUT
THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY CONCERN IS, IS I'M, I'M NOT THRILLED WITH THE LOCATION.
ANYONE ELSE? I JUST, MY ONLY THOUGHTS ARE IS WE RELY ON OUR STAFF, VERY PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND ARE PLANNING, I HAVE TO PUT SOME CREDENCE INTO WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE IN MY FINAL DECISION.
I'M NOT SAYING YES, NO, OR MAYBE SO, BUT I DO HAVE TO TAKE THEIR CONCERNS TO HEART.
AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME VALID CONCERNS YET ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE NOT HERE TO MAKE DECISIONS.
I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I SAID CERTAIN THINGS, WE'VE ALL SAID CERTAIN THINGS.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'VE COME TO ANY FINAL CONCLUSIONS.
WE HAVE TO BE FAIR TO YOU AND TAKE ALL THIS HOME, WAKE UP AT THREE IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW, TO DO AND, AND HAVE THIS, BUT WE'LL GIVE THIS THE PROPER CONSIDERATION THAT IT DESERVES.
YOU, YOU, ONE MORE THING, IF I MAY.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, UM, FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, UM, THE 200 RV SPACE, 250 RV SPACES ARE GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ON THAT SITE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S C3 OR OUR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE DID THE OTHER DAY, AND I'LL BE VERY BRIEF AT THIS, UM, WE BELIEVE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THE ADDITIONAL 170 RV SPACES IS GONNA GREATLY OUTWEIGH THE IMPACT BY THE WAREHOUSE.
IT'S AT THE CONVERGENCE OF HIGHWAY 17 AND HIGHWAY 61 ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF SOMERVILLE.
UH, THAT SITE IS, UH, 88 SPACES.
WE HAVE CAMERAS ON BOTH ENTRY POINTS, AND WE DID A STUDY ON OCTOBER 6TH.
I SAY A STUDY, I'M TALKING ABOUT A GUY WITH A LEGAL PAD AND THE HASH AND MARKING DOWN HASHTAGS.
THERE WERE 350 INS AND OUTS THAT DAY OF THE 80 SPACES, OR 88 SPACES.
SO IF YOU ALMOST TRIPLE THAT, YOU'VE GOT LITERALLY 800 INS AND OUTS OF ARBY'S AND CARS.
THAT'S NOT JUST RV'S COMING IN AND OUT.
THAT'S ALSO, UM, MOST OF WHAT YOU WILL HAVE HERE, UNLIKE SAVANNAH LAKES.
AND THAT'S WHY I, I FOUND LIKE THE TRAFFIC STUDY COMPARISON OF SAVANNAH LAKES, WHICH IS AN RV RESORT VERSUS THIS IS AN RV, UM, LIVING AREA.
MOST OF OUR PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE WORKERS, WHITE AND BLUE COLLAR WORKERS WHO ARE COMMUTING INTO SAVANNAH HARDY BLUFFTON HILTON HEAD COOLER.
UM, SO THEY'RE THERE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO WORK AND COMING BACK EACH AND EVERY DAY.
PROBABLY ONLY 20% OF OUR RV PARK WILL BE RESORT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING IN JUST FOR A WEEKEND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO JUST WITH THAT, NO, AND AS I SAID TO YOU WHEN WE MET BEFORE, WHAT THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO DEAL WITH IS NOT YOUR OPINION, WHICH MAY BE WHERE FOUNDED THAT WE NEED A THIRD PARTY, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, ANALYSIS SO THAT THE COUNCIL CAN DEAL WITH THE ACTUAL DATA.
IF THAT'S A POINT THAT YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER, THEN IT'S THE BURDEN IS ON
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YOU TO PROVE THAT WITH A THIRD PARTY STUDY.UM, I, I THINK WE, AS A COUNCIL, WHILE WE MAY RESPECT YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THIS, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH REAL DATA THAT'S IMPARTIAL.
IF, UH, NO ONE ELSE, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, UM, WE, THERE WILL BE, AS PART OF FIRST READING, THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY, UH, AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER AND LANDOWNER TO, UH, ADD ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY.
MR. RIVER, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE US TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER B? YES, SIR.
UM, AS PART OF YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THIS YEAR, ONE OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY WAS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SPLASH PAD.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION, THE THEME FOR THE LOCATION, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO GO THERE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY IS OUR CONCEPTUAL PLANS FOR THIS PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT.
UM, IF WE CAN GET GUIDANCE FROM YOU TODAY THAT WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, NEXT STEPS FOR US FOLLOWING THIS WOULD BE TO ENGAGE A FORMAL DESIGNER TO GO AHEAD AND ACTUALLY CREATE THE PLANS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO THEN HAVE A BID PACKAGE PUT OUT.
AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK WITH THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND SO THIS IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT BEFORE WE START SPENDING MONEY GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, THAT WE ARE HEADED IN LINE WITH YOUR EXPECTATIONS AND WHAT YOU WANNA SEE FOR THIS AREA.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JODY AND LET HER EXPLAIN THE CONCEPT OF THE PROJECT.
IT'S A GREAT SUMMARY AND GOOD MORNING COUNSEL MAYOR TO HAVE SOME FUN.
I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS.
UM, THE PROCESS SEEMS A LOT LONGER THAN IT WILL TAKE MOVING FORWARD.
FROM THIS POINT, IF WE GET YOUR CONCURRENCE, UM, WE WILL MOVE IN TO AN ACTUAL FORMAL DESIGN.
SO YES, WE MET IN SEPTEMBER OF 24 TO DISCUSS THE LOCATION IT WAS CHOSEN AT THE TV CARROLL PARK NEXT TO OLD CITY HALL IN JULY.
THE BUDGET WAS PASSED FOR US TO GET SOME OF THESE DESIGN CONCEPTS ROLLING.
AND HERE WE ARE TODAY, SEEKING APPROVAL ON WHAT WE'VE DEVELOPED SO FAR TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE ARE IN LINE WITH YOUR, UM, YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR OPINIONS, AND OF COURSE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, THE TV CARROLL PARK AREA, THIS OVERALL SITE PLAN, OOPS, THAT HAPPENED.
THE TOP BUTTON'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
ISN'T THIS THE POINTER? YEAH, YOU HAVE TO HOLD IT DOWN.
AND JODY, IF YOU WANNA BORROW MINE, IF IT MAKES IT EASIER, IT'S SO STRANGE.
SO HERE WE USED TO HAVE THE OLD CITY HALL BUILDING, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A NEW BUILDING THERE THAT WOULD HOUSE RESTROOMS, THE PUMP STATION, AND A LITTLE FLEX SPACE FOR OUR STAFF.
AND THEN AN ORGANIC SHAPED SPLASH PAD, WHICH IN THE VIDEO THAT I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, UM, WE DID NOT INCORPORATE THAT ORGANIC USE.
BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL CONCEPTS THAT ARE GONNA CHANGE OUR LIBRARY AREA.
WE TALKED ABOUT OPENING UP THIS BUTTERFLY GARDEN AND INCORPORATING THAT INTO THIS AREA FOR PICNIC TABLES SO THE FAMILIES CAN GO AND HAVE LUNCH IF THEY'RE SPENDING THE DAY.
AND THEN THE TRAIN WOULD REMAIN IN ITS LOCATION HERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THIS IS GONNA BE A HOTSPOT FOR THE COMMUNITY, WE NEED PARKING.
SO THIS SITE DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU BACK IN OUR SEPTEMBER MEETING, BUT IT'S CRUCIAL TO THIS PROJECT THAT WE INCORPORATE THE SITE DEVELOPMENT NOW.
'CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM DOWN ON MARVIN MAIN STREET.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A VIDEO THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY A MANUFACTURER WHO, UM, JENNIFER'S BEEN WORKING WITH.
AND, AND SHE CAN COME UP AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT SHE'S FAMILIAR WITH OR THAT SHE'S RESEARCHED, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF MANY VIDEOS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
BUT WE FIND THAT THIS ONE, THEY, THEY HIT ALL THE, THE ASKS THAT WE HAD.
SO, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY THE SOUND IS OFF, BUT
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NO, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT WE INCORPORATED THE TREE DESIGN.AND OF COURSE THERE'S A LOT OF A DA COMPATIBLE ELEMENTS TO THIS.
UM, THE WATER TOWER IS SOMETHING WE HAVE ANOTHER CONCEPT DESIGN TO SHOW YOU THAT'S UNIQUE TO THE OLD LUMBER COMPANY.
UM, LOTS AND LOTS OF GROUND SUPPORTERS AS WELL AS SOME OF THESE PLAY DECKS.
UM, SOME OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS CUTTING EDGE AND SOME OF IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT I THINK, THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING FOR A NEW PERSON AND WHETHER THEY'RE YOUNG OR OLD.
AND I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN SQUASH PADS OUT WEST.
THEY WERE IN EVERY PARK IN LAS VEGAS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE A, UH, A SHOWSTOPPER IN MY OPINION.
WELL, THERE'S LOTS OF BRANDING OPPORTUNITIES AND THOSE IDEAS HAVE BEEN KICKED AROUND, BUT I'LL LET JENNIFER COME UP AND IF YOU WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OF THESE MANUFACTURERS THAT YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH.
AND WE ONLY BROUGHT ONE OF THE MANY VIDEOS, BUT I'LL LET JEN TALK.
YEAH, JODY AND I ARE BOTH WORKING TOGETHER ON IT.
UM, WHEN WE GO TO, UM, OUR BIG NATIONAL CONFERENCES, WE ENGAGE HEAVILY WITH ALL OF OUR PRODUCT VENDORS.
UM, SO WE WORK WITH VORTEX AND, UH, PLAY WORLD.
THIS VIDEO, I THINK WAS BY, UM, UH, WATER WORLD.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE COME THAT ARE GONNA COME TOGETHER.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF IT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THAT.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE, THE MATERIALS, THE, THE MAINTENANCE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, I CAN CERTAINLY, UM, TALK TO THAT.
WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT AT THAT STAGE YET.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE BOTH TAG TEAMING TOGETHER.
UM, WE KIND OF DID ALL THE CONCEPTUALS BEFORE, SO WE CAN BRING YOU A PRODUCT THAT YOU CAN GET EXCITED ABOUT.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE A CONCURRENCE FROM COUNCIL AS JODY, UM, MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER AND WE COULD HAVE AN EVEN BIGGER DESIGN THAT COMES BACK TO YOU.
SO THIS IS JUST A REFERENCE POINT WE DON'T WANT YOU TO GET, YOU KNOW, SO, SO EXCITED AND THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE.
IT COULD BE EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER THAN WHAT YOU SEE.
SO, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE MATERIALS OR THE MAINTENANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, ABILITIES THAT MIGHT GO IN THE STAFFING, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, I'LL BE, UH, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
COULD, UM, YOU SHOW, I KNOW JOSH YOU SHOWED ME AND I THINK COUNCIL SOME, COULD YOU SHOW SOME CONCEPTUAL IDEAS ABOUT THE BUILDING? YEP.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE JUST GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
SO AS I DISCUSSED THE WATER TOWER, MR. FERBER CAME UP WITH THIS OLD COPYRIGHT OF THE VILLE ARGENT LUMBER COMPANY, AND WE COULD POTENTIALLY WRAP THE WATER TOWER ON THE SPLASH PAD TO RESEMBLE THIS AND PAY HOMAGE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE BUILDING THE DEPOT.
SOME INSPIRATION PHOTOS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD ARE THE ES STILL ESTILL STATION AND THE VILLE STATION AND HOT OFF THE PRESS.
I HAVE A HARDY STATION PICTURE.
I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE IT IN THE VIDEO.
WOULD YOU LIKE ONE OF WHAT YOU PRESENTED
SO WHAT'S REALLY COOL TOO, IS I LEARNED THAT OUR JUDGE HAS A PIECE OF WOOD FROM THE MURDER STATION.
SO IT'S, UM, THAT THIS JUDGE GOT, IS THAT FROM YOU? YEAH.
ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY, I WENT OUT TO THOSE, THAT DEPOT WAS STILL STANDING THERE, AND WE WENT AND GOT NANCY AND I AND I THINK DIANE, WE GOT SOME PIECES, UM, FROM THERE.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD LOOK GREAT AND CASED AND AS PART OF THE DESIGN.
AND ALSO I HAD TOLD, UH, JOSH TUESDAY, I THINK I AND HARRY TOO, BUT, UH, I KNOW SOMEBODY'S, I ACTUALLY GOT PIECES OF THE GAUGE TO TRACK FROM THE ARCH LUMBER COMPANY.
'CAUSE IT WAS A SPECIAL MADE, IT HAD TO BE NARROW, BUT IT HAD TO BE FLEXIBLE GOING THROUGH THE SWAMP.
AND HE HAS SOME PIECES THAT HE'S WILLING TO DONATE.
PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON DISPLAY.
SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE CONCEPT DRAWINGS THAT AK HAS PRESENTED.
AND THIS PERSPECTIVE IS IF YOU'RE PARKED ON MARTIN STREET AND YOUR BACK WOULD BE TO YOUR EOC HEADQUARTERS, FIRE STATION, UM,
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FIRE HEADQUARTERS.SO EVERYTHING, OF COURSE, THIS IS ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON MARTIN STREET.
UM, THIS PERSPECTIVE WOULD BE IF YOU'RE STANDING ON MAIN STREET, LOOKING INTO THE SPLASH PAD IN THE DEPOT, AND AGAIN, FROM KIND OF THE CORNER OF MAIN AND MARTIN STREET, YOU'LL HAVE TWO ENTRANCES, A GATE OFF OF MAIN STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHWAY THERE.
AND THEN THE GATE OFF OF MARTIN STREET.
THIS IS IF YOU'RE STANDING ON THE SPLASH PAD AND YOU'RE LOOKING IN, YOU CAN SEE WHERE PARENTS WOULD HAVE A NICE SHADY AREA TO SIT AT THE DEPOT WATCHING THEIR CHILDREN.
AND THEY'RE A LITTLE ELEVATED, WHICH GIVES THEM A GOOD PERSPECTIVE TO SEE THE ENTIRE SPLASH PAD.
UM, THERE'D BE SOME FANS GOING, THERE'S SOME LOCKERS IN CASE PEOPLE WANNA LOCK UP THEIR PHONE OR THEIR, UM, WALLET, ANYTHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT GETTING WET.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE VISIBILITY OUT TO MAIN STREET.
UM, LOOKING INTO THE DEPOT FROM MAIN STREET, YOU CAN SEE THAT NICE TV, CARROLL PARK, ARCHWAY.
AND AGAIN, ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE, THE FLOOR PLAN FOR THE BUILDING, IT WOULD SHOW A MEN'S ROOM, RESTROOM, THE PUMP ROOM SLASH JANITOR ROOM.
AND THEN THAT CONCESSIONS TICKETING AREA IS KIND OF A FLEX SPACE.
AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN ABOUT A KIWANIS CLUB OR SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE POTENTIALLY UTILIZING THAT TO SELL CONCESSIONS, WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, VERY LIGHT SNACKS, PREPACKAGED ITEMS, NOTHING THAT'S BEING COOKED.
AND THAT'S ALL FIVE OF THE PERSPECTIVES ON ONE SHEET.
AND THEN WE GET INTO THE BUDGET.
SO I KNOW THAT OUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION WITH YOU BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WE TALKED ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF.
BUT WHEN YOU ADD THE SITE WORK WHERE YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF PARKING AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE STORM WATER, AND THEN YOU ADD A NEW BUILDING, THE COST GOES UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO I TRIED TO PUT AT THE TOP THE DESIGN COST, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FULL PACKAGE FOR THIS.
YOU WOULD NEED YOUR CIVIL, YOUR ARCHITECTURE, YOUR LAND, UH, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE, YOUR MEP, AND THEN THE SPLASH PAD EQUIPMENT IS A SEPARATE DESIGN.
SO THAT'S ROUGHLY 15% OF YOUR CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE SOMEWHERE AROUND $2 MILLION.
I GUESSTIMATED THAT AT THE $300,000 AND THE DEPOT AT ABOUT A $850,000 COST YOUR SPLASH PAD AT ABOUT TWO 50 WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE SHOWED, WE, WE ACTUALLY DID GET A, UM, ESTIMATE FROM THE WATER PLAY FOLKS WITH THAT VIDEO THAT THEY SENT.
AND IT WAS RIGHT AROUND TWO 50.
UM, THE SITE WORK, YOUR PARKING, YOUR LANDSCAPE, YOUR FENCING, IT'S AROUND $900,000.
FF AND E THAT'S ALL OF YOUR SHADE SALES, YOUR PICNIC TABLES, YOUR TRASH CANS, THAT CAN VARY.
BUT I PUT IN A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE NUMBER OF 150,000.
AND THEN SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IS SEEING A CONTINGENCY.
SO THAT CONTINGENCY GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAVE SOME UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS.
AND THAT COULD BE ANYTHING WITH UTILITY CONFLICTS, BAD SOIL, UH, UNTIL WE START GEOTECHNICAL EXPLORATION, WE WON'T KNOW.
AND THEN THE PERMITTING AND TAX FEES HAVE GONE UP DRASTICALLY.
SO $18,000 IS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER, BUT REALISTIC.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT PUTS YOU AT YOUR TOTAL BUILD AT AROUND 2.7 TO 3 MILLION.
AND THEN YOUR ANNUAL RECURRING COSTS, AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF A JENNIFER SLIDE, BUT WE WOULD BE INCREASING STAFFING GIVEN THAT WE'RE ADDING AN, AN ENTIRE FACILITY WITH MEMORIAL PARK AND WITH OUR SPLASH PAD.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ROUTINE AND PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AT ABOUT $15,000 A YEAR.
AND THEN YOUR CPO CONTRACT FOR WATER QUALITY, THAT'S LIKE HAVING A FULL SERVICE THAT COMES IN TO TEST AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE'S NO CONCERNS.
AND THEN YOUR UTILITIES, WE'RE GONNA USE ROUGHLY 10,000 A YEAR ON WATER AND POWER.
SO THAT $167,000 NUMBER, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW YOU NEED TO SEE THAT IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
AND I'M OPEN FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, OR IF YOU WANT TO KICK AROUND SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THE VIDEO AGAIN.
UM, WE HAD STORM WATER STORAGE ISSUES WITH, UH, THE VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK.
WITH WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN NOW, WILL IT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL HARD SURFACE FOR OUR PARKING? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND YES, BECAUSE THAT MUNICIPAL HUB THAT WAS DESIGNED,
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THEY INCORPORATED A RATHER LARGE AREA FOR THAT RETENTION BASIN.SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE RECENTLY, IT'S THIS RETENTION BASIN BACK HERE GREW SUBSTANTIALLY.
WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT, SO, UH, IN FACT MM-HMM
BECAUSE I THINK THE CONCEPT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING BETWEEN, UH, UH, THE POTENTIAL SPLASH PAD AND VETERANS MEMORIAL PARK, AND WE DISCUSSED IT EARLIER, MARY, IS THAT WILL BRING BUSINESSES IN.
WHEN, WHEN WITH OUR, OUR, UH, MAIN STREET PROJECTS AND THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT OTHERS DON'T.
AND IT WILL BRING THE BUSINESSES IN WHEN THEY SEE PEOPLE, THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO COME TO WHERE THOSE, THOSE PEOPLE ARE.
I THINK THE SPLASH PAD IT, WHEN I FIRST CAME ON COUNCIL, IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT, WELL, NOW HERE WE ARE, ALMOST THREE YEARS LATER, WE ARE TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS DECISION.
YES, THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE ABSOLUTELY, BUT THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE, I BELIEVE FAR OUTWEIGHS THE COST OF THIS.
I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE STORMWATER.
THE THING ABOUT THAT RETENTION BASE, AND SINCE CONSTRUCTION HAS COMMENCED ON OUR MEMORIAL PARK ZONE OVER HERE, I'VE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ASK ME, WHY DOES THIS HAVE TO BE SO BIG? AND IT'S NUMBER ONE, CAPTURING WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
AND THEN NUMBER TWO, CAPTURING OUR FUTURE GROWTH.
AND WE KNOW 'CAUSE OF THIS MUNICIPAL HUB AREA GROWING, WE WANTED TO OVERSIZE THAT FOR THE TIME BEING.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS JUST LIKE THE JUJU HUDSON, MANY CITIES TALK THE TALK, WE DO THIS, WE WALK THE WALK, WE HAVE SHOWN WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHAT OTHERS SHOULD BE DOING, BUT WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE DOING, AND THE A DA ACCESSIBLE PORTION OF THE SPLASH PAD.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S, THAT'S IT ELSE.
ANYONE ELSE? I, I THINK THAT WITH OUR REC CENTER, THAT INVESTMENT SOME TIME AGO, AND THIS INVESTMENT, I THINK IS A BROADER COMMITMENT TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE KIND OF IMAGE WE WANT TO HAVE AS A CITY.
AND, UH, IT'S THE RIGHT EVOLUTIONARY KIND OF THING, IN MY OPINION, WITHOUT BEING REVOLUTIONARY.
SO IT FITS REALLY NICELY, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE ARE COMPETING WITH CLIENTS.
ANYONE ELSE? UM, JUST THE HOURS AND TIMES OF OPERATION.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU ENVISION? LIKE HOW MANY MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR AND, AND HOW WILL THAT FLOW? SO WE'RE IN THE, UH, EARLY STAGES OF PLANNING, ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE, UM, TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
UM, BUT WE WOULD TYPICALLY OPERATE IT BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE LOW COUNTRY AREA, OUR TIMELINE'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
UM, SO IT COULD BE AS EARLY, UM, AS LATE APRIL ALL THE WAY INTO, UM, OCTOBER TIMEFRAME.
UM, BUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION WILL PROBABLY, TYPICALLY RIGHT AROUND SIX O'CLOCK, SEVEN O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, UM, TO CEASE OPERATIONS.
WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE LIGHTS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT AGAIN, THAT CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY THROUGH MORE WORKSHOPS AS WE GET CLOSER TO DEVELOP THAT SO THAT EVERYONE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY IS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH HOW WE'RE GONNA DO THAT AND THE USER GROUPS THAT ARE AROUND US AS WELL, AND THE HOMEOWNERS.
UM, SO WE HAVE A VERY GOOD PRODUCT, UM, THAT EVERYONE CAN BE HAPPY ABOUT AND NOT COMPLAIN.
THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED FOR THIS, THE MONTHS THAT WE DON'T OPERATE, WILL THOSE PEOPLE STILL REMAIN WITH US? THAT YES.
'CAUSE THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I ASKED.
AND WE WILL OF COURSE BRING ALL THAT INFORMATION BACK.
WE'VE HAD, UH, SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH JOSH ALREADY, JOSH ALREADY ABOUT THAT.
UM, I WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT JUST HIRING SOMEBODY FOR THE SPLASH PAD ITSELF.
UM, WITH MEMORIAL PARK COMING ON, AND, UM, THE SPLASH PAD AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA LOOK AT EITHER TWO FULL-TIME OR MAYBE ONE FULL-TIME AND A PART-TIME TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA NAVIGATE THAT.
BUT THOSE FOLKS WILL BE WORKING IN ALL OF OUR PARK DISTRICT.
UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO USE THEM FOR MILLSTONE, USE 'EM BACK HERE.
UM, FOR ALL OF YOU THAT WERE THERE THAT SAW JUJU, UM, IT'S NOW BECOME A VERY PARTICULAR PIECE.
UM, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT PROPERLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE, THEY WILL BE MOVING, UH, AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO YES, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
JOHN, I'M SORRY, JOHN, YOU WERE BIG PROPOSAL OF OUR, OF OUR, UM, CITY HALL THERE.
YOU'RE VERY WELL, OR YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THIS CONCEPT WITH, WITH THIS CHANGING IN HERE.
FORTUNATELY, AND I GET EMOTIONAL TOO, BUT FORTUNATELY
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JOSH WARNED ME AHEAD OF TIME AND TOOK ME BACK AND SHOWED ME WHAT Y'ALL SEEING TODAY.I, I GUESS HE KNEW YOU NEEDED TO WARN ME,
BUT ANYWAY, NO, I'M, I'M, I'M VERY PLEASED.
I THINK, UM, JEN AND JOSH AND JURY DID A GOOD JOB WITH THIS.
UM, ALSO TOO, JUST TO, TO GIVE A QUICK, UM, EXCERPT.
I THINK JODY HAS AN IMAGE TOO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JODY, I AND JOSH SAT DOWN AND TALKED ABOUT.
THAT'S WHY THE, THE WHOLE IMAGERY OF THE, THE TRAIN CAME ABOUT.
UM, BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE PART OF THAT HISTORY BORN, WHETHER IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, IMAGERY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE PIECES OF THE OLD HARDY STATION, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE CAN REALLY INCORPORATE, INCLUDING IMAGERY OF THE OLD CITY HALL AS WELL, SO THAT PEOPLE THAT DO VISIT THE SITE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SPLASH PAD.
IT'S A HISTORY, IT'S A HISTORICAL PORTION OF WHAT THE CITY IS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE THAT, INCLUDING THAT IT IS AND WAS THE TV CARROLL PARK.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THOSE TRADITIONS.
THIS IS HARD TO SEE, BUT ONE OF THE IDEAS IN THE CONCEPT IS SHOWING ALL OF THE TRAIN STATION STOCKS.
AND SO AS IF YOU'RE SITTING HERE ON THE BENCH DECIDING WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO STOP, UM, HISTORICALLY, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN DIGGING UP.
AND THEN TRYING TO DO THE RENDERINGS ON THE BACK PORTION OF THE BUILDING THAT RESEMBLE OUR LOCOMOTIVE TRAIN.
UM, AGAIN, SOMEWHAT FUZZY, BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEPICTING THE OLD HARDY BILL.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S, IT'S A CHARMING WAY TO PAY HOMAGE TO WHERE THEY, WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
SO, UM, ANOTHER THING ABOUT SECURITY, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE THE FENCING THAT WE KEEP ALL OF THE CHILDREN INSIDE.
I KNOW THERE'S ELECTRONIC WAYS TO DECIDE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE VISITING, BUT WE ARE PUTTING IN TURNSTILES FOR ADDITIONAL SECURITY AND FOR TRAFFIC COUNTS TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THE FACILITY.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT TO THE POINT OF SECURITY, YES, WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO WHERE OUR POLICE AND FIRE ARE SITTING, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE CAMERAS AND THE AREA WILL BE, UM, SURVEILLANCE.
SO I, I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE TECH PERSON THAT WE GET.
I AND THE MULTIPLE USE OF THIS PARTICULAR POSITION WOULD BE, UH, A FAIRLY SKILLED PERSON WITH A LOT OF RECKON AND ONE ARE THE HARD TO FIND AND, UH, THE KIND OF SKILL LEVEL YOU WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN THAT.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS HARD TO FIND, UM, GOOD PEOPLE.
BUT YES, THEY WILL HAVE A LOT OF THAT, UM, TECH KNOWLEDGE BACK WITH 'EM.
UM, OUR CPO, UH, OFFICIAL, WHOEVER WE DECIDE TO GO, I'M SURE WE'LL DO A CONTRACT AND, AND PUT THAT OUT TO BID AS WELL.
UM, BUT ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT WE WORKING WITH US, UM, ALL HIGHLY TRAINED, UM, UNDERSTAND, AND OF COURSE WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AS WELL ON THINGS THAT MAYBE WE CAN'T.
UM, SO CARLA'S HERE, UM, AS WELL.
SO WE DEFINITELY ALL WORK TOGETHER AS ONE UNIT, BUT YES, UM, THEY WILL BE VERY SKILLED AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST PEOPLE PROJECTS.
I THINK, UH, I'M NOT SURE OF THE TIMETABLE, BUT BACK WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE REC CENTER, WE TOOK COMMUNITY SURVEY AND AS YOU CAN YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY ASKED FOR IN THAT WAS A POOL.
WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFICULTIES OF PUTTING A MUNICIPAL POOL POOL.
UH, ALSO WE KNEW AT THAT TIME THAT LAND HAD BEEN DONATED TO THE YMCA.
SO WE FELT THAT THE POOL SIDE WAS UNIQUE, BUT IT DIDN'T SOLVE THE DAY-TO-DAY DOWNTOWN WHERE OUR CHILDREN ARE LOCATED NEED FOR SOME PLACE TO COOL OFF.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GREENVILLE, WE WENT UP THERE AND SAW THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL SPLASH PAD FACILITY.
UM, SAVANNAH HAS 'EM, I MEAN, AND WHICH YOU EXPERIENCE IN LAS VEGAS AND JEN, YOU A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
I THINK THAT, UM, TO ME THIS IS MONEY WELL SPENT.
IT'S, BUT TO DO, AND I HEARD ITS DISPLAY I THINK WAS VERY CREATIVE, UH, A COMPLIMENT OR CAME UP WITH THESE IDEAS.
UH, I THINK IT'S JUST WONDERFUL AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF IT AND I'M AFTER SEEING THIS EVEN MORE.
SO, UM, I DO HAVE ONE CONCERN AND I BROUGHT UP AT MEMORIAL PARK, AND PERHAPS WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER GOOD LOOK AT IT.
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WHAT IS OUR VNT ORDINANCE AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE PROTECT BOTH PARTS MM-HMMAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THIS MAY HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT CONCERN THAN, THAN MEMORIAL PARK, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN, YOU HAVE DANGER OF A DIFFERENT SORT.
SO I THINK, UH, JOSH, IF WE NEED TO AND, AND CREATE, TAKE A REAL HARD HOOK AT OUR ORDINANCES AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS THE PROPER, UM, UM, MECHANISM SUPPORT TO, TO DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
I FIGURED IT PROBABLY WORKS SO THAT I THINK IT'S ALWAYS WORTH, UM, SAYING OUT LOUD AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, OUR CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED.
BUT GREAT JOB AND CREATIVITY AND, AND THIS OVERALL PLAN IS WONDERFUL.
A I I THINK JOHN, I I LOVE THAT ARCHWAY.
WE, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR YOUR FATHER'S SERVICE, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE'S NAMES ON, THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE GAVE A LIFETIME OF, UM, SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
AND DR. CARROLL CERTAINLY FITS THAT BILL.
WELL, MAYOR COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDING TODAY, UM, TODAY KNOWING KIND OF WHERE YOU STAND NOW, WE HAVE FUNDING IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
UM, I THINK IT'S AROUND $300,000 IF, IF I RECALL, I HAVE A 5 0 1 0.5 300,000 IS FOR FISCAL YEAR 27, FISCAL YEAR 2026.
SO JODY CERTAINLY HAS PLENTY TO START WITH.
SO WITH, WITH THE FUNDS BEING THERE IN OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS BUDGET, KNOWING THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED TODAY, OUR NEXT STEP WILL BE TO ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF THE DESIGNER TO GO AHEAD AND PUT TOGETHER A COMPLETE SET OF PLANS.
UM, WE CAN BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU AGAIN, JUST TO CHECK IN AND SAY, NOW THAT WE'VE GONE FROM CONCEPT TO ACTUAL DESIGN, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA BID OUT.
UM, AND SO HERE IN A COUPLE MONTHS, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE TO THE MARKET.
GET SOME BIDS BACK AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BE ROCKING AND ROLLING.
SO OUR, OUR RFP PROCESS TAKES APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS.
I PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR DESIGN SERVICES, AND IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE LIKE I EXPLAINED.
UM, THOSE PRICES WILL COME BACK AND WE DO A SCORING COMMITTEE TO CHOOSE THAT DESIGNER, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THAT TO YOU BECAUSE THAT COST WILL BE HIGHER THAN A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO YOU'LL APPROVE THE SELECTION OF THAT DESIGN TEAM, AND THEN THEY GET ROCKING ON OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AND OUR PERMITTING PROCESS, AND THEN WE CAN START PUTTING IT OUT FOR BID.
COULD WE AS COUNCIL, GET COPY OF THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION? A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE WOULD MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT.
WOULD THE VIDEOS PLEASE? SURE.
I THINK THAT IS A POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT ENHANCING THE DESIRABILITY OF BUSINESSES TO COME DOWNTOWN, ALL TRYING TO, TO, UH, PROMOTE.
I THINK THIS WILL BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND ALL THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS WE HAVE, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE PARKS PLAN WITHIN THEM, THIS IS, THEY'LL COME INTO DOWNTOWN AND THEY'LL GO ON PLACES TO EAT, PLACES TO, YOU KNOW, FREQUENT 2 78 WILL TURN LEFT AND RIGHT NOW, INSTEAD OF YEAH.
YOU UP GOING, THEY GOING THIS WAY.
IT'S A GREAT WELCOME TO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
AND EVERYBODY WHO COMES DOWN MAIN STREET TO CITY HALL WILL SEE THIS AND SHOW 'EM HOW PROUD WE'RE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ESCAPE IT.
BEAUTIFUL DESIGN, LIKE I SAID, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE HUB AREA, THAT WHOLE DESIGN AND, AND HOW WE'RE RESTRUCTURING.
UM, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY WITH INTENTION AND CREATIVITY, UH, TO, TO DESIGN IT AND BRING MORE PEOPLE TO OUR AREA.
LET'S GO ON TO, WE'VE ADDED SOMETHING.
DO WE HAVE TO ADJOURN THIS AND GO TO A REGULAR MEETING?
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IS THAT THE, UH, IS THAT THE REASON I GOT TWO AGENDAS HERE? YES, SIR.WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY TAKE FORMAL ACTIONS.
SO THIS WORKSHOP, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE WORKSHOP.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY A AYE.