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SO SKY, WHEN THE GREEN COMES ON, YOUR MICROPHONE IS LIVE.
DON'T DO ANY HOT MIC MISTAKES.
[I. CALL TO ORDER]
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THERE'S, UH, THEY'RE ON A TABLE OVER THERE.I AM GONNA GO OFF SCRIPT FOR A COUPLE MINUTES IF YOU, UH, HOPE YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, AS WE WILL SEE, THERE'S A, UH, CHILD CARE SUBCOMMITTEE UPDATE TODAY.
AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR SUBCOMMITTEE DID, THEY GOT TOGETHER WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE FROM GIC AND THEY COLLABORATED.
AND IT, I THINK IT WAS, UH, WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT YOU, YOU DID THAT.
I AM ALSO INVOLVED IN A COUPLE OF REGIONAL THINK TANKS AND THERE IS, UM, A TASK FORCE THAT HAS BEEN PUT TOGETHER, UH, TO DEAL WITH A 20 YEAR PLAN FOR THE REGION.
UM, IT IS BEING HEADED BY OUR FORMER SECRETARY, SO LOKO SECRETARY, MR. TOM LENNOX.
AND I PUT THIS FIRST BECAUSE TOM HAS TO LEAVE.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO THOSE, UH, REPRESENTATIVES AND I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER TO THE BOARD THAT WE ADOPT THAT TASK FORCE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE OR TASK FORCE OF SO LOCO.
AND THAT WOULD BE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COMMIT ANY STAFF.
'CAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE A GROUP TOGETHER, WHICH INCLUDES COUNCILMAN KEMP, UH, DAN WOOD FROM, UH, BLUFFTON, OF COURSE, TOM LENNOX AND A FEW OTHERS.
AND THAT SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD DO, LIKE ALL THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES COME TO US, GIVE US REGULAR REPORTS, AND WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETE THEIR TASK AND THEIR MISSION, THEY WOULD COME FORTH WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ALL THE JURISDICTIONS.
SO, UM, WHAT I'D LIKE FOR THE BOARD TO DO IS ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF TOM LENNOX, WHO'S GONNA HEAD THAT TASK FORCE.
UM, AND THEN AFTER ALL QUESTIONS ARE DONE, HAVE A VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE WANNA ADOPT THAT AS A SO LOCO SUBCOMMITTEE.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T PREP YOU FOR THIS.
THIS IS, UH, I HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYBODY.
SO, UM, JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME.
SO, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL FROM THE BOARD? FIRST, LET ME OFF EASY.
I'M GOING TO, UM, HAVE HIM CLARIFY EXACTLY WHAT THE MISSION OF THE, THE TASK FORCE, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER, UH, TASK FORCE THAT WE HAVE.
SO, LOCO STEP ONE IS THEIR MISSION STATEMENT.
WHAT DO THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH? AND I'LL, I'LL ASK THEM TO, ONCE THEY HAVE THAT FORMED, THAT THEY COME TO SO LOCO AND, AND PRESENT THAT TO US.
AND THEN ANY REGULAR UPDATES THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE WHEN THEY'RE READY.
AND THEN JUST AGAIN, AS WE MAY HEAR FROM, UH, THE CHILDCARE WHEN THEY'RE DONE, THEY'LL COME TO US AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK YOU AS JURISDICTIONS SHOULD DO.
AND THAT'S THE SAME THING WE DID WITH THE HOUSING TRUST, THE, THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S A LOCO HAS HAS DONE.
FOR THE RECORD, PATSY BRYSON, TOWN OF HILTON ED TOWN COUNCIL, THE MAYOR REGRETS.
HE COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA.
I KNOW MR. LENNOX, I'M FAMILIAR WITH HIS WORK.
UM, AND I WOULD CERTAINLY, UH, SUPPORT MAKING THIS A SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR, FOR MR. LENNOX ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, HE, UM, I ASKED HIM TO COME HERE TODAY.
I KNOW HE HAS ANOTHER APPOINTMENT.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THIS TASK FORCE, UH, TOM'S HERE TO BEAT HIM UP.
IF YOU'D LIKE, YOU COME LATER AND DO A PRESENTATION.
I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
TOM, YOU GOOD WITH THAT? SAY AGAIN? WE, WE WOULD LIKE, UM, THE, THE BOARD WOULD LIKE YOU ONCE YOU GET ORGANIZED, IF YOU DON'T MIND TO COME HERE, UH, WHEN YOU'RE READY AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD, WOULD YOU LIKE THIS TASK FORCE TO PROCEED, UH, AS A TASK FORCE OF SO LOKO, OR DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL THAT PRESENTATION COMES FORWARD EXCEPT THAT HE'S IN, YEAH, I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO, TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE PLAN ON DOING.
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OKAY.ANYONE ELSE? UH, I'M GIVING WHAT I'M GETTING THE TYPE OF EXPERIENCE AND FREE WORK FROM A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
IS, IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME? I KNOW 'EM WELL ENOUGH TO
SO YES, TOM, IF YOU, I CAN GIVE YOU A, UH, THEN COME FORWARD PLEASE.
32ND OUTLINE OF WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH.
THE MEMBERS OF THIS TASK FORCE ARE TRUET RIBBON, RUBEN, DAN WOOD, ALLEN WARD, JOHN KEMP, AND DEAN MOSS FROM BEAUFORT.
AND OUR GOAL IS TO, UM, CREATE AN OUTLINE TO BE USED BY SO LOKO, UH, OF WHAT A 20 YEAR PLAN PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, GIVEN THE NINE OR 10 ELEMENTS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
UH, AND EACH LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, INTEGRATE THAT INTO AN OUTLINE TO BE USED.
UH, THE OUTLINE WOULD INCLUDE THE ELEMENTS REQUIRED IN THE COMP PLAN, UH, PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT, UH, ENGAGEMENT OF THE DIFFERENT, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
IT WOULD BE THE OUTLINE OF HOW TO DO THE PLAN, MORE OF A PROCESS.
SO I, I KNOW I, THIS IS, UM, NOT ON THE AGENDA AND I SURPRISED EVERYONE, SO WHY DON'T WE, UM, WE WE'LL TAKE A VOTE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, AND THAT WAY, I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYBODY ON THE SPOT.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PREP YOU ALL.
SO, MAYOR WILLIAMS, I THINK THIS WILL, HOPEFULLY AFTER YOU HEAR ROB MERCHANT'S PRESENTATION, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT PARALLEL, UM, TASK.
ROBERT S GONNA PRESENT TODAY AND WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT IN MORE DETAIL AT ANOTHER MEETING.
SO, UM, REAL QUICK, MAYBE THIS IS CLARIFIED IN THE NEXT MEETING, UM, AS THE MISSION COMES TOGETHER, BUT I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION JUST BASED ON THE 32ND SYNOPSIS WOULD BE HOW DOES THE PLAN FIT INTO SOME OF THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES OR JURISDICTIONS GETTING READY TO, UM, REVISIT THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS? SO I KNOW WE'RE ABOUT A YEAR OUT FROM THAT, SO HOW WOULD THE PLAN FIT INTO THAT STRUCTURE? AND MAYBE THAT'S CLARIFIED LATER, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION THAT CAME TO MY MIND IMMEDIATELY.
THE RECOMMENDATION COMING OUT OF ANY RECOMMENDATION TO MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL BODIES WOULD BE RIGID FLEXIBILITY.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO GOOGLE THAT, TOM.
I, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH QUESTIONS AND WHAT WE'LL DO IS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS.
I'M SORRY TO SURPRISE EVERYONE.
LET'S, UH, LET'S NOT MAKE ANY DECISIONS.
WE'LL, I'LL, I'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR A VOTE NEXT MONTH.
AND TOM, COULD YOU, UH, BE PREPARED TO, UH, SPEAK AGAIN OR SOMEONE FROM THE COMMITTEE? ARE YOU GONNA MEET BEFORE THEN? YES.
SO IF YOU COULD, UM, HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENT THE, THE TASK FORCE AND COME BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, AND THEN THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION FROM THERE.
THANK YOU, UH, BOARD MEMBERS FOR, UM, TOLERATING MY LITTLE SURPRISE.
UM, SO LET'S GO ON TO THE AGENDA NOW.
THE FIRST ITEM IS THE UPDATE ON THE RESULTS OF THE PLASTIC BAG SURVEY.
UH, COUNCILWOMAN CHAIR ALICE HOWARD WILL GIVE US
[1. Update on the results of the plastic bag survey - Council Chair Alice Howard and Vice-Chair Anna Marie Tabernik]
THAT.YES, WE EXTENDED IT TILL APRIL 1ST.
UH, WE NEEDED MORE RESPONSES FROM BUSINESSES.
I'VE BROUGHT, I DIDN'T BRING 'EM.
ROB MERCHANT BROUGHT CARDS HERE.
IF YOU KNOW OF A RESTAURANT OWNER, UM, IN BEAUFORT COUNTY,
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FROM INDIVIDUALS WHO IT'S BEEN, UM, VERY GOOD ON INDIVIDUAL RESPONSES.I WAS IT OVER 3000 LAST TIME I HEARD.
SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE GREAT RESULTS.
UM, AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE RESULTS, WE'LL, UH, WE'RE GONNA SCHEDULE SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS AROUND THE COUNTY.
THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED FOR THIS HAD MEMBERS OF KEEP BEAUFORT BEAUTIFUL ON IT.
AND, UM, STAFF FROM, UH, ALL, ALL OVER THE COUNTY, UH, FROM THE PLANNING STAFF, PRIMARILY FROM MUNICIPALITIES AND, AND THE COUNTY THAT CAME UP WITH A SURVEY AND SOME VOLUNTEER GROUPS LIKE THE PORT ROYAL SOUND FOUNDATION.
AND, UH, SO AS SOON AS WE START GETTING THAT, WE'LL START POPULATING, UH, WHAT CAME OUTTA THE SURVEY AND GETTING RESPONSE IN PUBLIC MEETINGS TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE THINK, UH, BEYOND THE SURVEY.
AND COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT TOO, FOR HELPING US WITH THIS.
SO IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO PLEASE PICK UP SOME OF THESE CARDS ON YOUR WAY OUT.
IF YOU, UM, KNOW A RESTAURANT OWNER OR BUSINESS THAT WOULD JUST FILL IT OUT, DIDN'T TAKE VERY LONG TO FILL OUT THE SURVEY.
UM, ALICE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE PUT ON APRIL'S AGENDA AFTER THAT SURVEY IS DONE? UM, I'M NOT SURE WE'LL BE READY YET.
UH, I THINK MORE IMPORTANT IS TO HAVE THE BROOKE BOUNDARIES AND SUBCOMMITTEE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA.
SO AS FAR AS WHAT, YOU'LL LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WANT TO GET ON THE AGENDA.
UM, SEE, YOU JUST SAVED THE, THE TIME THAT I TOOK UP ON THE EARLIER THING.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE BH, THE BJHT, THE B BEAUFORT JA HOUSING TRUST.
[2. BJHT - Claude Hicks]
THANK YOU.MEMBERS OF SO LOCO, SEE, SOMEBODY'S DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.
WE WANTED TO SPEND JUST A FEW MOMENTS TODAY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, WHAT HAS HAPPENED BETWEEN THE LAST TIME THAT WE SPOKE BEFORE SOKO, UH, AND NOW AND THERE, AS ALICE SAID, IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
HOUSING IS ALWAYS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO THIS HAS GOT TAPE WRAPPED AROUND IT, SO THAT MIGHT NOT BE A GOOD SIGN.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR, BEAUFORT, JASPER HOUSING TRUST, UH, IS CONSISTS OF NINE MEMBERS.
IT'S A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION IN THAT, UH, NINE REGIONAL MEMBERS, NINE REGIONAL MUNICIPALITIES, BOTH COUNTIES, UH, JOIN TOGETHER TO PRIMARILY DO ONE THING.
UH, THEY REALIZED THAT INDIVIDUALLY IT WAS GOING TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT TASK TO TRY AND BRING HOUSING TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL MUNICIPALITIES.
BUT TOGETHER IN A REGIONAL APPROACH, UH, THAT WORKS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE PERHAPS A LITTLE QUESTIONING WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER IT'S GONNA WORK.
I THINK IT'S WORKED, UH, WAY BETTER THAN ANYBODY EVER THOUGHT.
UH, IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WE GAVE OUT ALMOST $2 MILLION IN GRANTS, UH, AND DOLLARS THAT WENT TO GRANTEES AND TO PROJECTS TO GENERATE HOUSING.
THE, THE, UM, WE ARE A 5 0 1 C3 ORGANIZATION.
WE HAVE BEEN SINCE THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR, OR THE FIRST OF LAST YEAR.
THIS IS OUR LEADER WHEREVER WE TALK, AND WE HAVE SPOKEN TO OVER A HUNDRED, UH, INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTIES.
UH, WE ARE CONSISTENTLY SAYING ECONOMIC GROWTH IS THE NUMBER ONE INITIATIVE.
WITHOUT HOUSING, THERE IS NO ECONOMIC GROWTH.
WITHOUT ECONOMIC GROWTH, THERE IS NO COMMUNITY WORKERS NEED PLACES TO LIVE.
CURRENTLY, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO LIVE.
UH, IN THIS AREA, WE ARE APPROACHING ON A THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT, $3,000 A MONTH IN RENT.
WE ARE APPROACHING ABOUT $2,500.
AND ON A ONE BEDROOM, WE ARE APPROACHING $2,000.
SO THOSE ARE ALL DOLLARS THAT WE EXPECT AND PRICING THAT WE EXPECT IS GOING TO OCCUR OVER THE NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS.
HOUSING AVAILABILITY AFFECTS QUALITY
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OF LIFE.UH, THERE ARE A THOUSAND SURVEYS OUT THERE THAT HAVE DRAW A DIRECT LINE BETWEEN HOUSING AND THE QUALITY OF THAT HOUSING AND THE QUALITY OF THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN IT, WHETHER IT'S THEIR EDUCATION, WHETHER IT IS THEIR NUTRITION, WHETHER IT IS THEIR SOCIALIZATION.
THERE'S A DIRECT LINE BETWEEN THE ABILITY TO HAVE SAFE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT YOUR LIFE LOOKS LIKE.
AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS A REGIONAL COLLABORATION.
I WILL TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
AND REGIONAL COLLABORATIONS WORK RARELY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WITH OPINIONS AND THEY RARELY COME TOGETHER.
THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE OF REGIONAL COLLABORATION.
SENATOR DAVIS USED THIS TO BRING US SOME STATE MONEY BY SAYING, THIS IS REGIONAL.
LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE SITTING AT THE TABLE.
AND HE WAS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT.
UH, HERE'S SOME OF THE BAD NEWS.
WE HAVE FAILED TO GET BACK TO BUILDING PERMIT LEVEL THAT WE WERE AT BETWEEN 93 AND 2002.
UH, IT IS RISING SLOWLY, UH, AND WE EXPECT THAT WE MAY GET A LITTLE BIT OF INCREASE BY THE TIME WE GET TO 20 26, 20 27.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE HOLDING STEADY ON BUILDING PERMITS.
CLA DOES THIS, UH, DOES THIS INCLUDE MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY? YES.
THE HOUSING AVAILABILITY NATIONWIDE, RIGHT NOW WE ARE 8.2 MILLION UNITS SHORT ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
IT IS EXPECTED BY THE END OF 2035, IT WILL BE AT 10 MILLION UNITS SHORT.
THIS IS PARTICULARLY, I GUESS, AN ONEROUS, UM, STATISTIC IN THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT 50 YEARS, WE HAVE CRESTED OVER THE DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN HOME OWNERSHIP AND RENTALS.
RENTALS ARE NOW A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION THAN HOME OWNERSHIP.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT, I'VE GOT CHILDREN WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OLD ENOUGH TO THINK, UH, AND THEY ALL ARE LOOKING AT PERHAPS A HOUSE, MAYBE BY THE TIME THEY'RE 40, UH, MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ECONOMY LOOKS LIKE.
SO APARTMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY LIVING IS HERE.
IT IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MULTIFAMILY UNITS CAN REACH ALL OF THE, THE, UH, RESIDENTS THAT WE NEED TO HOUSE.
THIS IS THE SINGLE, UM, MOST TALKED ABOUT SLIDE.
LAURA ULRICH TO COME TO THE SYMPOSIUM LAST YEAR TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING.
SHE IS THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S LEADING EXPERT ON HOUSING.
AND THERE WERE A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHEN SHE POPPED THIS SLIDE UP.
WHAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOES OUT OF RICHMOND IS TO KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY HOUSES IN ANY PARTICULAR AREA CAN BE ACCESSED ON A MEDIAN PRICE BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T GO OVER 30% OF THEIR INCOME TO PAY FOR RENT OR FOR HOUSING PAYMENT.
IN THE LAST 21 YEARS, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT MET THAT REQUIREMENT ARE ZERO.
SO THERE HAS BEEN NO HOUSE SOLD WHERE THE PERSON BUYING IT PAID 30% OR UNDER OF THEIR TOTAL INCOME FOR THAT HOUSE.
WHAT THIS TELLS YOU IS THAT OBVIOUSLY THERE HAS BEEN GREAT SUCCESS AND GREAT, UM, CAPACITY ON THE HIGHER END.
GREAT COMMUNITIES, EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE HERE.
BUT WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABILITY AND WITH RESPECT TO FAMILIES BEING ABLE TO LIVE IN A PLACE AND NOT SPEND MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME, THERE HASN'T BEEN A SINGLE HOUSE THAT FEDERAL RESERVISTS KEPT TRACK OF.
THIS IS A DYNAMIC THAT HAS TO CHANGE.
WE CAN'T HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE YOUNG FAMILIES, YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, YOUNG TEACHERS, YOUNG POLICE OFFICERS, YOUNG NURSES, HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
WHEN YOU GO ABOVE 30% OF YOUR INCOME, IT DIRECTLY AFFECTS YOUR ABILITY TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE.
YOUR ABILITY TO KEEP YOUR TRANSPORTATION UP, YOUR ABILITY TO SOCIALIZE, DO THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
YOU ARE NOW TRAPPED IN A HOUSE WHERE YOU'RE PAYING 40 OR 50 OR 60% OF YOUR INCOME IN RENT OR MORTGAGE PAYMENT.
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SO WE LOOKED AT, UH, WHO WAS COST BURDENED.SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, IN BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTY, 46.3% OF RENTERS ARE COST BURDENED.
THAT MEANS THEY SPEND MORE THAN 50% EXTREMELY COST BURDENED MEANS THEY'RE SPENDING OVER 50% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING COSTS.
THIS IS A NUMBER THAT NEEDS TO COME DOWN.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
AND IT'S A, A VARIETY OF THINGS.
IT WON'T BE RESOLVED BY BUILDING HOUSING.
IT'LL BE RESOLVED BY HIGHER WAGE EMPLOYEES, NEW ECONOMIC AND REGIONAL BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW.
UH, THE NEW HUD LIMITS ARE GOING TO COME OUT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME AT 80% IN BEAUFORT, THAT WOULD BE $80,700 PER FAMILY.
THEIR MONTHLY AFFORDABILITY WOULD BE ABOUT $2,000.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT FAMILY IN THE 80% AND THEY HAVE NEW PARENTS AND A COUPLE OF KIDS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT.
IT'S NOT 2018, IT'S CLOSER TO $3,000.
SO THEY'RE ALREADY IN THE HOLE.
WE EXPECT WHEN WE GET THE NEW HUD NUMBERS THAT THE INCOME IS GOING TO BE HIGHER, BUT THE AFFORDABILITY IS GONNA BE HIGHER AS WELL, BECAUSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
SO HERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED HERE THAT HAS HAPPENED IN A LOT OF REGIONS AND A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES.
YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE.
IF YOU LOOK RIGHT AT THE A MI PERCENTAGE, YOU SEE 80 TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T QUALIFY FOR A TAX CREDIT OR A SUBSIDIZED RENT, BUT THEY ALSO DON'T QUALIFY 'CAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY A HOUSE.
SO THEY ARE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE.
THAT A MI PERCENTAGE, I WOULD BET YOU THAT IF I COME BACK HERE A YEAR FROM NOW, THAT PERCENTAGE IS GOING TO BE HIGHER BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING RAISES, WHO ARE EARNING GOOD SALARIES, BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A HOUSE, NOR CAN THEY AFFORD, THEY MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN ANY KIND OF TAX CREDIT HOUSING.
WE LOOKED AT WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THE STATE.
UH, THE STATE IS AS BUREAUCRATIC AS ANY OTHER STATE IN THE COUNTRY.
WE'RE WORKING TO HELP THEM, UM, REALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO STREAMLINE THEIR PROCESSES.
BEAUFORT, JASPER HOUSING TRUST IS THE ONLY ENTITY IN BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTIES THAT PARTICIPATES AND IS QUALIFIED IN THE STATE HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, BOTH FROM A REPAIR PERSPECTIVE.
AND WE WENT AND GOT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION EXPERT, OR, UM, CERTIFICATE RATHER, WHICH WAS ME AND JENNIFER SITTING IN A ROOM FOR EIGHT HOURS LISTENING TO LEAD-BASED PAINT.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW THAT AFFECTS AT THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
THE BIGGEST EFFECT OF DOING BOTH OF THOSE THINGS IS THAT WE CAN NOW LOOK AT A HOUSE THAT'S OLDER THAN 1978 AS ITS CONSTRUCTION DATE.
THAT APPLIES TO A LOT OF HOUSING IN THE ENTIRE, BOTH BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTIES.
WE WANT TO INCREASE CREATE GAP FUNDING RESOURCES WITH THE STATE.
WE WANNA PROVIDE LOW INTEREST MORTGAGE OPPORTUNITIES.
WE HAVE PROGRAMS FROM OUR GRANTEES FOR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS.
WE CAN'T FIND A HOME THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD, EVEN IF WE GAVE 'EM THE MONEY.
VILLE IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE DID RIGHT DOWN THE STREET THAT WORKED.
BUT IT WORKED BECAUSE THE MUNICIPALITY GAVE THE CON CONTRACTOR GAVE, THE DEVELOPER GAVE, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME OTHER RESOURCES.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE IN THE FUTURE TO REALLY HOUSE PEOPLE.
WE WANNA ENCOURAGE YOUR REVISION OF THE QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? THIS IS THE WHAT THAT THE STATE GOES BY ON AN ANNUAL BASIS TO DETERMINE HOW IT'S GOING TO GIVE OUT DOLLARS, HOW IT'S GOING TO GIVE OUT TAX CREDITS, HOW IT'S GOING TO GIVE OUT THOSE DOLLARS THAT CAN BE USED IN CONSTRUCTION OR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT TO US? WHEN I GOT HERE, UH, WHICH WAS A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS A PROVISION IN THE QUALIFIED ALLOCATION PLAN THAT SAID, YOU MAY NOT GET POINTS FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE 1000 JOBS WITHIN ONE MILE OF YOUR PROJECT.
NOTHING IN BUFORD AND JASPER COUNTY APPLIED FOR THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
SO EVERYBODY THAT CAME TO LOOK AT US KNEW THEY WERE ALREADY
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10 POINTS BEHIND.10 POINTS IN THE LIITE BUSINESS IS DEADLY.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING YOUR DEAL DONE.
AND FINALLY, WE WANT TO EXPAND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND CREATE INCENTIVES FOR PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THAT IS LOOKING TO MAKE INVESTMENTS, BUT ALSO LOOKING TO DO GOOD THINGS.
AND WORKFORCE HOUSING IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY LOVE TO TALK ABOUT.
THEY LOVE TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT IN BECAUSE THEY CAN ALSO LOOK AT THEIR SHAREHOLDERS AND SAY, SEE WHAT WE DID? WE DID SOMETHING GOOD.
WORKFORCE HOUSING AND EVERYBODY APPLAUDS AND ALL THE, EVERYBODY, ALL THE EXECUTIVES GET TO KEEP THEIR JOBS.
WHAT CAN WE DO LOCALLY? WE CAN PARTNER WITH LOCAL, UH, JURISDICTIONS TO DRIVE POLICY CHANGE.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GET SOMETHING OUT OF THE GROUND IN A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME, IN A LESS COSTLY PROCESS THAN WE HAVE NOW.
WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ACCESS AND REDUCE OUR COSTS.
EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THE COST OF WATER AND SEWER AS A DEAL KILLER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT HOW FAST IT'S GOING UP AT WHAT THAT MEANS TO A PROJECT, IT FORCES A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST TO WALK AWAY AND SAY, WE CAN'T.
WE'D HAVE TO CHARGE RENTS OF $4,000 TO BE ABLE TO PAY.
WE NEED TO OVERCOME RESISTANCE AND BUILD PUBLIC SUPPORT.
THERE IS NOT IN MY BACKYARD MENTALITY EVERYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES, EVERYWHERE.
WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO COMBAT THIS IS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHAT IT IS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, EDUCATE PEOPLE ON WHO'S GOING TO LIVE THERE.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST FEAR, IS WHO'S GOING TO LIVE THERE? WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE IN FIVE YEARS? IS IT GONNA BE MANAGED PROPERLY? WHAT WILL IT DO TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO LIVE CLOSE TO IT OR NEXT TO IT? WE HAVE, UM, PUT TOGETHER A REGIONAL COOPERATION FACILITATION THROUGH A 2025 SOLUTIONS FORUM.
THIS IS GONNA BE IN SEPTEMBER.
WE, WE WILL SEND YOU ALL SAVE THE DATES.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT AROUND THE TABLE DEVELOPERS, GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVES, PLANNERS, HOME BUILDERS, HOME CONSTRUCTORS, AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE HOUSING PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE CAN DO TO TRY AND HELP GET THINGS OUT OF THE GROUND FASTER, LESS EXPENSIVELY, AND REALLY PUT THE PRODUCT IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO SEE.
SO YOU'LL BE SEEING MORE ABOUT THAT AS, AS WE GO UP, UH, CLOSER TO SEPTEMBER, THIS IS THE SAVE THE DAY THAT YOU'LL GET BLUEPRINT FOR CHANGE.
WE WANNA BRING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE.
WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, AND THEN WE WANNA TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW COLLECTIVELY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN, A ANSWER FOR ANYONE? THANK YOU MR. HICKS.
UH, FIRST ANYONE FROM THE BOARD? UH, ANY QUESTIONS? AND THEN I'LL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC CHAIRMAN.
WE TALK ABOUT BEAUFORT, JASPER ALL THE TIME.
HOW DO YOU S WHEN WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS WAY BACK, WE ALWAYS HAD THAT PROBLEM THAT HILTON HEAD WOULD HAVE ONE SET OF FIGURES.
BEAUFORT, UH, WOULD HAVE ANOTHER FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH.
THEN YOU HAVE JASPER, WHICH IS ANOTHER SET OF FIGURES.
HOW DO YOU SEPARATE THAT WHEN YOU DO A, UH, THING WHERE IT SAYS BEAUFORT AND JASPER'S INCLUDED, OR JASPER'S INCLUDED WITH BUFORD? I MEAN, SO, SO WHERE YOU, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT, WHERE IS THE MONEY? IS THE MONEY, DO YOU LOOK AT WHEN THE MONEY IS SPENT AND HOW IT, WELL, IT'S SPENT, FOR EXAMPLE, A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN BUFORD WOULD DO ONE THING, BUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN JASPER WOULD DO A LOT MORE.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT FROM, UM, A HUD PERSPECTIVE.
THE NUMBERS THAT WE LOOK AT, THIS IS WHAT'S CALLED THE HILTON HEAD.
EVERYONE IN BOTH COUNTIES IS IN THAT MSA.
SO YOU GET A SKEWED KIND OF VISION OF WHAT IT'S REALLY LIKE.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT HILTON HEAD PRODUCT ALONG WITH JASPER COUNTY PRODUCT.
AND IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE.
WE KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS MOVING TOWARDS JASPER BECAUSE OF LOWER COST OF LAND, LESS EXPENSIVE DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
WE HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE COMING IN ALL THE TIME ASKING, WHERE CAN I LOOK? WHERE'S GONNA BE THE NEXT MARKET? SO WE DO DIFFERENTIATE.
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AT ALL.IT'S BLIND TO HILTON HEAD VERSUS JASPER.
IT'S BLIND TO HILTON HEAD VERSUS Y EMBASSY.
UM, BUT WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS REALLY SAYING? AND IF YOU LOOKED AT THE ONE SLIDE, WE DIVIDED IT BETWEEN BUFORT AND JASPER COUNTY.
WE KNOW THAT JASPER COUNTY IS GOING TO GROW SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WORKFORCE HOUSING IN THAT MIX.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU TRY AND BLEND THE TWO TOGETHER.
'CAUSE IT, YOU ALMOST CAN'T, UH, THEY'RE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT MUNICIPALITIES.
THEY'RE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT COMMUNITIES.
AND SO DEVELOPERS KNOW WHEN THEY COME INTO THOSE COMMUNITIES, THEY'VE GOT TO ADAPT BASED ON WHERE THEY ARE.
THE WAY YOU DEVELOP IN HILTON HEAD IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE WAY YOU DEVELOP IN JASPER COUNTY.
AND THE FOLLOW UP ON THAT, WHEN YOU DID THE, UH, PROJECT IN HARDY V WE HAD, I WOULD LIKE TO, COULD YOU EVER GIVE A PRESENTATION ON HOW THAT WORKS? SURE.
I MEAN, IT JUST, THAT PARTICULAR FRAMEWORK.
SO IF WE HAVE A OPPORTUNITY, WE KNOW THERE'S A FRAMEWORK THERE.
AND, UH, SO MAYOR WILLIAMS LED THE WAY IN GETTING THAT PROJECT DONE.
BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD TO SAY YES IN ORDER TO GET THAT DONE.
HABITAT HAD TO SAY YES WITH RESPECT TO WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING IT WASN'T USED TO DOING, WHICH IS CREATE 10 UNITS.
UM, THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO SAY YES BECAUSE THEY WERE DOING IT ON A FIXED PRICE AND IT WAS SLIGHTLY BELOW MARKET, NOT GREATLY BELOW MARKET.
THE CITY HAD TO AGREE ON A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK.
AND THEN WE STEPPED UP WITH HOME, FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS ASSISTANCE.
SO WE GAVE EACH OF THE RESIDENTS THERE ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT DOWN TO BE ABLE TO BUY THE HOUSE.
A LOT OF THINGS HAD TO HAPPEN.
UH, BUT I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN IN YOUR COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
UM, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION? YES.
UM, MY NAME IS CARLTON DALLAS.
UM, I'LL BE HOPEFULLY SPEAKING ABOUT, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
SO, 'CAUSE WE'RE RECORDING YOU.
MY NAME IS CARLTON DALLAS AND MY BACKGROUND IS GLOBAL PETROLEUM.
34 YEARS, INCLUDING, UH, FIVE CONTINENTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF FOREIGN CAPITAL THAT WANTS TO COME INTO THE US.
ARE THERE PROGRAMS THAT MAKE THAT EASY FOR THEM TO INVEST IN HOUSING AS A MR THIS GENTLEMAN HAS JUST SPOKEN ABOUT.
MR. HICKS, YOU MIGHT WANNA GET HIS CARD.
UM, MOST OF THE TIME RIGHT NOW THE INVESTMENT IN HOUSING FROM INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS IS DONE THROUGH A SYNDICATOR.
UH, THEY WILL GIVE THAT MONEY, THEY WILL FORM A POOL, AND THEN A SYNDICATOR WILL DECIDE WHICH PROJECTS THEY'RE GOING TO SEND THAT MONEY TO.
UH, THE MOST PROLIFIC IS CENTAIR BANK.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
THEY'RE A SPANISH BANK AND THEY, UH, ALONG WITH RBC FROM CANADA, HAVE INVESTED A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT THEY'RE INVESTING THEM IN EXCHANGE FOR GETTING TAX CREDITS.
SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT.
STRAIGHT UP, WE'RE GONNA GO IN AND WE'RE GONNA EXPECT A CERTAIN ROI AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT INVESTMENT.
UH, BUT THE INTEREST IN SOUTH CAROLINA WILL MEAN THAT THOSE INTERNATIONAL INVESTORS ARE GOING TO HIT OUR WAY PRETTY QUICKLY.
SOUTH CAROLINA HAS BECOME A VERY, VERY HOT MARKET AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE PROBABLY OVER THE NEXT AT LEAST DECADE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA NOW GO ON TO THANK YOU MR. HICKS.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, JESS, YOU HAVE THAT, UH, COULD YOU MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THIS ENDS UP ON THE SO LOCO TAB ON HARDY AND BLUFFTON POLICE? YEAH, I CAN POST IT.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE MR. ORLANDO LEWIS, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF OUR CHILDCARE SUBCOMMITTEE.
[3. Child Care sub-committee - Olandor Lewis]
WELCOME.I'D LIKE TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO THE LOCAL BOARD.
AND ALSO MAYOR WILLIAMS. SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS ORLANDO LEWIS.
UM, YOU GUYS HAVE IDENTIFIED ME AS THE CHAIR FOR THE EARLY CHILD CARE SUBCOMMITTEE.
AND OUR SUBCOMMITTEE COMPRISES
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OF MEMBERS OF MS. JODY LEVITT, MR. MCGILL, UM, ALSO MR. TOM HINES.AND WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER WHO HAVE JOINED US AND HE'S BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL.
UM, WE WANTED TO, UM, BRING A ACTION ITEM TO SO LOCO.
AND ONE OF OUR FIRST STRATEGIC RECOMMENDATIONS IS NUMBER ONE THAT, SO LOCO ACCEPTS THE TRY SHARE RESOLUTION TEMPLATE.
YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF THAT PARTICULAR TEMPLATE.
TEMPLATE, UM, IN YOUR POSSESSION.
UH, NEXT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT.
SO LOCO DISTRIBUTES THIS RESOLUTION TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES TO SIGN UP ON THIS RESOLUTION.
AND THEN THIRD ACTION ITEM IS TO PRESENT THE SIGN RESOLUTION TO THE BURET AND JASPER COUNTY STATE DELEGATION AND CHAMPION THIS RESOLUTION IN COLUMBIA.
I KNOW WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE TRI SHARE MODEL.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO DO A REFRESHER ON THIS PARTICULAR MODEL, UM, AS RELATES TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY TAKING PLACE, UM, REGARDING THE TRI SHARE MODEL.
JUST AS A RECAP, UM, THE TRI SHARE MODEL WAS FIRST INITIATED IN MICHIGAN.
IT'S ALSO BEING USED IN NORTH CAROLINA AS WELL.
AND AS WE INDICATED DURING THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, THE TRI SHARE MODEL, UM, IS A MODEL THAT INCLUDES A 33%, UM, INVESTMENT BY THE GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT THAT IS, UM, A 33% INVESTMENT BY THE EMPLOYER AND THEN ALSO A 30, 33% INVESTMENT FROM THE EMPLOYEE TO, UM, TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARD THE COST OF CHILDCARE.
AND OUR REQUEST IS THAT SHOULD THE TEMPLATE BE SIGNED AND CHAMPION, UM, IN COLUMBIA, THAT BEAUFORT AND JASPER COUNTY BE CONSIDERED AS THE PILOT LOCATION FOR A PARTICULAR MODEL TO KICK OFF IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
THIS IS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION.
UH, I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, OF COURSE.
UM, AND, UH, THE SO LOKO GROUP, ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT, SO LOCO IN THE PAST, WE, WE HAVE, UM, GOTTEN TOGETHER AND LOBBIED THROUGH RESOLUTIONS ON CERTAIN ISSUES.
THE ONE THAT IMMEDIATELY COMES TO MIND WAS THE, UM, OUR SUPPORT OF, UH, THE BUSINESS LICENSE, UM, REP REFORMS THAT WERE DONE.
AND WE ALL GOT TOGETHER AND SUPPORTED THAT.
UH, TYPICALLY, AND THIS IS FOR THE SO LOCO BOARD, SINCE THIS BOARD HAS NO LEGISLATIVE POWER, UM, WHAT WE WOULD ASK THE SO LOCO MEMBERS TO TAKE THIS BACK AND PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA TO, UH, HAVE YOUR COUNCIL'S DEBATE AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
UM, SO MR. LEWIS, THIS AND MR. SCO AND YOUR, ALL YOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THAT WE LIKE TO SEE COME OUT OF SUBCOMMITTEES IS A SUGGESTED, UH, ACTION ITEM SUCH AS THIS.
UM, SO ANY QUESTIONS FIRST FROM THE BOARD? MR. LEWIS? UH, WHEN I BRING THIS TO MY COUNSEL, I WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THE SOURCE OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE IN HERE AS WELL.
CAN YOU SEND THAT SEPARATELY IN AN EMAIL TO US? YES, WE CAN SEND THAT.
UM, ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS? YES, SIR.
MR. MAYOR, UM, HAVE YOU HAD ANY PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DELEGATION? AND IF SO, WHAT'S THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED? WE HAVE NOT.
UM, WE JUST HAD OUR MEMBERS FROM OUR SUBCOMMITTEE TO, TO DO, UM, JUST SOME, SOME LEGWORK IN OTHER STATES TO SEE, YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S PROGRESSING IN THOSE STATES.
AND SO FAR IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL.
UM, SO ONCE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO, TO MAKE THAT MAKE US A PILOT FOR THE USE OF THIS PARTICULAR MODEL.
BUT, BUT NO ONE, AS OF YET, I, I THINK THE ACTION PLAN WOULD BE THAT EACH OF THE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN JU SO LOCO, THEY WOULD COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE, WE SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION AND THEN WE SEND IT UP TO THE STATE AS A, AS A GROUP.
WHETHER THAT GROUP IS A HUNDRED PERCENT, 80% WHATEVER EACH, EACH JURISDICTION WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
WHEN WE SEND IT UP TO THE STATE, I THINK THE, THAT WE, WE WILL NEED THE DATA THAT, BECAUSE THAT OUR LEGISLATORS WILL ASK FOR IT.
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SURE THAT THE DATA IS GIVEN TO EACH JURISDICTION.UM, AND WE EACH JURISDICTION GO BACK AND IT'S UP TO EVERYBODY HERE WHETHER THEY WANNA DO THAT AND ASK THEIR COUNCILS TO SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT TO EACH MEMBER OF SO LOCO, AND IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, IT'S, IT'S WHAT, WHAT YOU EACH FEEL ABOUT THIS.
AND THEN WE WILL TAKE WHATEVER GROUP OF PEOPLE WE HAVE OR JURISDICTIONS THAT WE HAVE AND TAKE IT TO THE STATE.
ONE QUESTION, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR A PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL? YES.
WE, I PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, THEN WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TALK TO COUNCIL AS A GROUP AND, UH, EXPRESS YOUR PLAN, BASICALLY.
SO ORLANDO OR, OR JODY, WHOEVER FROM YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR COUNCILS ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA ACCEPT THIS.
THEY'RE GONNA ASK, WANNA KNOW, THEY WANNA KNOW ABOUT IT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA WANNA DEBATE IT.
SO, UM, I WOULD SUGGEST TO EACH JURISDICTION WHO WANT, UH, YOU OR ONE OF THE MEMBERS TO, UM, TO CONNECT TO HAVE YOU COME TO THEIR MEETING.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? NOT A PROBLEM.
WE ALL SHOULD HAVE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET AN EMAIL THAT WILL INDICATE THAT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE, THE KINDS OF THINGS, THIS COORDINATION, AND I, I'M GONNA ADDRESS JOSH OR ANYONE ELSE, LIKE MR. WOOD, WHO, UM, WANT TO HEAD BE THE COORDINATOR.
UM, AND I DID SPEAK TO MR. WOOD ABOUT TAKING ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS CHILDCARE SUBCOMMITTEE.
SO THAT WOULD BE, IF, IF THEY, RATHER THAN EVERYTHING COME THROUGH ME YES SIR.
IT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT COORDINATOR TO MAKE SURE THEY WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT GOT OUT TO WHOEVER.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S EXACT, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW I'VE HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM SOME OF MY RECRUITS AS TO WHAT THIS ROLE WOULD BE.
AND ALSO FYI FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE DO HAVE COPIES OF THE RESOLUTION AVAILABLE FOR YOU ALL AS WELL.
E EVERYTHING SHOULD COME TO US ELECTRONICALLY SO WE CAN MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAS IT.
ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LEWIS OR ANY OF THE STAFF MEMBERS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
I THINK YOU'VE LIMIT YOUR RUN OUTS.
YOUR LIMIT THAT I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND UP.
DID YOU KNOW KO IS, UH, IS WITH THE GOVERNMENTS, RIGHT? HAVE YOU GONE TO THE SCHOOLS AND ASKED THE SAME THING? WE HAVE NOT, NO.
WOULD THAT BE PRUDENT FOR YOU TO DO THAT? I MEAN, AS A YOU JOINT? 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALWAYS, WHEN YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARDS, THEY'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT EARLY LEARNING AND ALL THAT, RIGHT? SO AS A JOINT, UH, JASPER TOTAL, OR BUFORD TOTAL, IT WOULD BE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND SO LOCO WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING IS WE ARE ASSESSING WHO WOULD BE GREAT MEMBERS, UM, TO JOIN THE SO LOCO, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE SO WE CAN HAVE MORE DIALOGUE REGARDING, UM, WHAT WHAT IS TAKING PLACE, BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
BUT BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT'S TARGETING CHILDCARE ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, WE FELT THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, SO LOKO WAS THE FIRST ENTITIES TO, TO BE, UM, TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION.
BEING THAT IT'S A PAID SERVICE FOR CHILDCARE ENTITIES.
OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE, UM, THIS IS, UH, THE GROWTH IES SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH WE FORMED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
[4. Growth boundaries sub-committee - Rob Merchant]
UH, GOOD ENOUGH TO HEAD UP THIS SUBCOMMITTEE.GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF SOME GOOD MORNING, AND I PROMISE I WILL TRY TO RESPECT THAT, UH, ONE HOUR CUTOFF.
UM, SO, UM, AS, AS, UH, THE MAYOR MENTIONS, UM, SO LOCO PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT GROWTH IN THE REGION, UM, AND LOOK AT GROWTH BOUNDARIES AND ALSO LOOK AT OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND SEE HOW THEY MESH TOGETHER.
UM, IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO THIS COMMITTEE PRIMARILY STARTED AS, UM,
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MUNICIPAL AND COUNTY PLANNERS MEETING TOGETHER.AND, UM, WE REALIZED EARLY ON THAT THERE WERE SEVERAL LIMITATIONS TO THIS SIMPLY BEING A STAFF DRIVEN EFFORTS.
YOU KNOW, THAT, UM, WE DEFINITELY ALL HAVE OUR REGULAR JOBS.
UM, YEAH,
BUT, UM, WE STARTED AT THE UNI OR, YOU KNOW, LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL, BUT, UM, WE REALIZED THE IMPORTANCE EARLY ON IN BRINGING IN SOME, UH, REGIONAL PARTNERS, YOU KNOW, SUCH AS THE COASTAL CONSERVATION LEAGUE, UM, OPEN LAND TRUSTS, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA, LOW COUNTRY SENTINEL LANDSCAPE, UH, BEAUFORT, JASPER WATER SEWER AUTHORITY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY DEFINITELY HAVE A, THEY'RE SEEING THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS VISION FROM A REGIONAL LEVEL, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, WHAT OUR CHARGE WAS.
BUT, UM, SO WE MET TOGETHER AND, UM, I'LL START OFF WITH THIS SLIDE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING, I ALWAYS LIKE TO START WITH PHOTOGRAPHS.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS SAY TO THE COMMUNITY IS THAT WE'RE VERY DIVERSE, BUT IF WE LOOK AT WHAT WE VALUE MOST ABOUT THE LOW COUNTRY, WE PRETTY MUCH WOULD ALL AGREE ON THE SAME THINGS.
SO WE LOVE THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF OUR AREA.
WE LOVE THE, THE LANDSCAPE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, THE HISTORY.
BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE TREASURING THESE THINGS IN A VERY DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT, YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE GROWING VERY FAST IN, IN THE COASTAL COUNTY, YOU KNOW, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME IT WAS BEAUFORT, NOW IT'S JASPER COUNTY AS THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE STATE.
UM, AND THAT THIS GROWTH HAS CONSEQUENCES.
AND SO EACH OF US HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT PROVIDES A ROADMAP OF HOW WE NAVIGATE THAT, HOW WE TRY, YOU KNOW, KEEP THOSE THINGS THAT WE TREASURE, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO BALANCE ALL THE INTEREST.
AND I THINK THAT THE FIRST TWO PRESENTATIONS TODAY, KIND OF GIVE AN IDEA.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY OF TRYING TO PRESERVE LAND AND, AND, AND GROWING SMART, BUT ALSO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, UM, CHILDCARE, ALL THESE ISSUES RELATED TO A FAST GROWING REGION.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT WE WANNA PRESENT THIS MORNING IS WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE SOME OF THE, THE CONSIDERATIONS OR, OR, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT FAST GROWTH THAT WE THINK, UM, ARE GONNA HAVE GREATER CONSEQUENCE IF WE CONTINUE TO PLAN SEPARATELY.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT CAN BE, WE CAN BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO PLAN IF, IF WE HAVE A KIND OF A JOINT FUTURE LAND USE FRAMEWORK, A JOINT ROADMAP AMONG THE REGION.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHY SO LOCO WAS PUT TOGETHER.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALLY, WE CERTAINLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND, AND, AND WE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING QUALITY OF LIFE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER AS A REGION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE BOUNDARY OF OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
UM, IT OFTEN WE, WE IMPACT EACH OTHER.
AND SO HAVING THIS SHARED VISION IS IMPORTANT.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER, OH, TAYLOR LAD FROM BEAUFORT, JASPER WATER SEWER AUTHORITY.
WE'RE GONNA JUST RUN THROUGH A FEW SLIDES AND THEN WE'RE HOPING TO WRAP IT UP AND KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS THE NEXT STEPS.
TAYLOR LAD, UH, UM, PLANNING MANAGER WITH BEAUFORT JASPER WATER AND SEWER.
SO WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE POPULATION AND POPULATION DATA IS A VERY POPULAR WAY TO LOOK AT GROWTH AND EVALUATE PROJECTIONS ON FUTURE GROWTH.
BUT WE REALLY KIND OF WANTED TO DRIVE A POINT HOME HERE IN LOOKING AT RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS FROM 2023.
SO FIRST OF ALL, THIS REPRESENTS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN ALL OF THE AGENCIES AND JURISDICTIONS WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH IN MY MIND IS A PRETTY AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT AND APPRECIATE THIS FORUM FOR PUTTING, PUTTING THAT TOGETHER AND DRIVING THIS EFFORT AND SUPPORTING IT.
UH, BUT RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS IS SPEAKING VERY STRONGLY TO THE GROWTH HERE.
AND DEFINITELY WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPILING DATA FROM 2024.
AND I APPRECIATE MR. HICKS SHOWING HISTORIC DATA BEHIND BUILDING PERMITS.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS IS REPRESENTED BY OBTAINABLE HOUSING, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN BEGIN TO SEE HOW THIS IS WORKING.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON AS A SUBCOMMITTEE, AND THIS HAS DEFINITELY, UM, MOSTLY BEEN HEADED UP BY, UM, ROB'S TEAM OVER AT BEAUFORT COUNTY, BUT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THIS DIGITAL REPRESENTATION OF, UH, DEVELOPMENT DATA.
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SO THIS REPRESENTS THE DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS, PLANNED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENTS, ALL, ALL OF OUR JURISDICTIONS KIND OF CALL 'EM A LITTLE BIT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT MASTER PLANNED AREAS.AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE IS THE BALANCE OF WHAT UNITS.
SO EACH OF THESE MASTERPLAN AREAS ARE ENTITLED TO A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS TO BUILD RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL.
AND THIS IS SHOWING THE BALANCE OF WHAT IS REMAINING.
SO DARKER PURPLE BASICALLY MEANS THERE ARE MORE UNITS AVAILABLE TO BUILD.
SO THIS IS ONE WAY THAT WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THE DATA WE HAVE AND THE FUTURE THAT'S ANTICIPATED, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR 20 YEARS AND ARE NOW COMING TO FRUITION, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL WE ALL UNDERSTAND IN OUR SEEING.
SO MY FAVORITE TOPIC, WATER AND SEWER.
UH, WE'RE GONNA SPEND THE NEXT FEW SLIDES HERE LOOKING AT A FEW MORE SPECIFIC TOPICS AND THE IMPACTS OF GROWTH ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC DRIVERS.
AND SPECIFIC TO WATER AND SEWER, I NEED TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHILE, UH, BEAUFORT, JASPER WATER AND SEWER HAS A VERY LARGE SERVICE AREA IN OUR COUNTIES, THERE'S ALSO, UH, WATER AND SEWER SERVICE BEING PROVIDED BY PUBLIC SERVICE DISTRICT.
AND HILTON HEAD TOWN OF RIDGELAND HAS ITS OWN WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, AND UMSC, UM, HAS LOW COUNTRY WATER.
SO WE ARE A BULK OF THE TWO COUNTIES SYSTEM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER PROVIDERS.
SO I, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO WHAT IS IN OUR JURISDICTION, UM, IN OUR AREA.
SO WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY ON THE SLIDE HERE IS A REALLY QUICK BREAKDOWN OF FOUR PROJECTS.
THAT, AND $150 MILLION INVESTMENT IS ON THE LOW SIDE.
IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKE 180 MILLION, BUT ACROSS FOUR PROJECTS THAT ARE RESPONDING TO GROWTH OUT OF OUR THREE YEAR CIP THAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT A $590 MILLION CAPITAL PROGRAM, 65% OF THAT IS PROJECTS RELATED TO GROWTH, WHICH IS REPRESENTED HERE.
SO WE HAVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW AT CHERRY POINT IN PERRYSBURG.
UM, YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN STORAGE TANK GOING UP IN BUCK WALTER, AND THEN, UM, LEFT IN AREA IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE, UM, SOME FUNDING FROM R FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT A LOT OF THE WORK IS GOING ON FOR US.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE REST OF OUR MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CAPITAL PROGRAM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE RESPONDING TO THE GROWTH.
WE'RE WORKING HARD TO BE, UM, PROACTIVE AND GRATEFUL TO, UH, SUCCESSFUL MASTER PLANNING THAT OUR ORGANIZATION THAT THE AUTHORITY HAS, HAS DONE TO ANTICIPATE THIS AND, AND PLAN FOR IT.
AND WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, IN A NEW MASTER PLAN, UM, HAVE A NEW MASTER PLAN PROJECT GOING ON AND LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE PROJECTIONS AND FUTURE PLANNING FOR THAT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE DANA BOWER.
SHE'S GONNA SPEAK ABOUT THE NEAR COUPLE SLIDES.
UH, SO I'M THE COORDINATOR FOR THE SOUTH CAROLINA LOW COUNTRY SENTINEL LANDSCAPE, UM, WHICH IS REALLY A, A PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM WORKING AT THE REGIONAL SCALE FOCUSED ON OUR, OUR BEAUFORT MILITARY INSTALLATIONS.
BUT WE WORK WITH FEDERAL, REGIONAL, STATE AND PRIVATE PARTNERS.
UM, AND SO THIS IS GONNA RUN THROUGH FROM 2001 TO 2025.
YOU CAN SEE IN BLACK ARE THE DEVELOPED AREAS.
GREEN ARE THE PROTECTED LANDS, YELLOW IS WHAT WAS PROTECTED IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR, AND THIS IS GONNA KIND OF ROLL THROUGH.
UM, AND I THINK IT SPEAKS TO BOTH THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF CONSERVATION WORK THAT IS BEING DONE IN THIS REGION TO PROTECT THOSE ENVIRONMENTALLY SIGNIFICANT AND SENSITIVE AREAS, BUT ALSO THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SEE INCREMENTALLY FROM YEAR TO YEAR, BUT IF WE WERE TO KIND OF GO BACK AND LOOK AT 2001 COMPARED TO 2025, I THINK WE WOULD SEE WHAT WE'RE ALL SEEING, UM, THE AMOUNT OF POPULATION GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR TWO COUNTIES.
AND SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF A CRITICAL POINT FROM WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER ON, UM, THE WORK OF THE HOUSING TRUST AND ALSO LOOKING AT GROWTH WHERE THAT GROWTH IS, UM, GOING TO CONTINUE OCCURRING AND WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, THIS GROWTH SUBCOMMITTEE HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON UNDERSTANDING BETTER.
UM, I'M GONNA ROLL TO THE NEXT, NEXT SLIDE.
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SO AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY I WORK, UM, CLOSELY WITH THE AIR STATION, PARIS ISLAND AND, AND THE NAVAL HOSPITAL THROUGH THE SENTINEL LANDSCAPE PARTNERSHIP.AND SO IN A GROWTH CONTEXT, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS A REGIONAL FOOTPRINT.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR MILITARY INSTALLATIONS ARE IN BEAUFORT AND, AND PORT ROYAL AREA.
BUT, UM, BOTH FROM A A MILITARY TRAINING ASPECT, THERE'S A REGIONAL FOOTPRINT ACROSS THIS.
YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A VERY CLUTTERED MAP, BUT YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE AIRSPACE AND FLIGHT TRAINING CORRIDORS KIND OF IN, IN THE BLUE AND GREEN, UH, SNAKES ALL OVER THE MAP.
UM, SO THERE'S A REGIONAL TRAINING FOOTPRINT, BUT ALSO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR REGION REALLY AS A MILITARY COMMUNITY, UM, BOTH FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, YOU CAN SEE UP IN THE CORNER THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRESENCE OF THE MILITARY IS REALLY A HUGE ECONOMIC DRIVER, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO ACROSS THE THREE INSTALLATIONS, WE HAVE OVER TWO AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS EACH YEAR THAT ARE GENERATED.
THAT'S THROUGH JOBS, CONTRACTS, SERVICES TO SUPPORT THAT POPULATION.
UM, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GROWTH AND, AND RESIDENTIAL HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ACTIVE DUTY INDEPENDENCE THAT LIVE SOME OF THEM ON BASE, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, RETIREES, VETERAN POPULATIONS.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT GROWTH AND REALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT ROB SPOKE TO IS PRESERVING QUALITY OF LIFE.
THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT IS, UM, HOW CAN WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY, SUPPORT LOCAL ECONOMY, BUT PRESERVE OUR LOW COUNTRY QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND, UM, JUST THROWING IN, SO FROM A MILITARY CONTEXT AS WELL, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT PRESERVING KIND OF THE ECONOMIC DRIVER ASSOCIATED WITH OUR MILITARY, UM, QUALITY OF LIFE IS INCREASINGLY BECOMING MORE AND MORE OF A COMPONENT.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FUTURE BASING DECISIONS AND, UM, NEW MISSIONS COMING TO INSTALLATIONS, UM, THEY'RE INCREASINGLY LOOKING AT COMMUNITY QUALITY OF LIFE FOR MILITARY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS LOOKING AT THAT MILITARY COMMUNITY NEXUS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
I, I THINK ROB'S GONNA COME BACK UP, MAKE ANOTHER APPEARANCE.
YEAH, AND I, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S QUITE A NUMBER OF ISSUES RELATED TO, TO RAPID GROWTH.
UM, SOME OTHER ISSUES, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT AT FIRST IS, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT ON MEDICAL CARE.
YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A MORE, UH, ELDERLY POPULATION, UH, IN THE LOW COUNTRY BECAUSE OF RETIREES.
AND THERE'S A REAL DEMAND, NOT JUST FOR NURSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A STATEWIDE NURSING SHORTAGE, BUT EVEN, UM, SPECIALISTS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN OUR, UH, HOSPITAL FACILITIES.
YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE'LL HAVE ALL THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
AND THEN FINALLY, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I NEED TO SPEAK ON TRANSPORTATION, BUT THE, AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST VISIBLE IMPACTS OF GROWTH IS, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR ABILITY TO GET AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE PROJECT INTO THE FUTURE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, UM, NO ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS, QUITE A BIT OF MORE FAILING INTERSECTIONS AND ROAD SECTIONS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS A REGION, IT HAS BEEN A REAL CHALLENGE OVER THE LAST 20, 30 YEARS TO RAISE FUNDS FOR, FOR, UM, ROADS AND ROAD WIDENINGS NEW ROADS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING FROM THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH TO PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEED LOCALLY TO, TO SHOULDER THE, THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE.
UM, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE DO HAVE, IN THIS REGION, WE HAVE A HISTORY OF REGIONAL PLANNING, YOU KNOW, THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN REGIONAL PLANS OR EFFORTS THAT WE MADE ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO.
AND REALLY, SO LOCO IS KIND OF THE SECOND ITERATION OF A COMMITTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS LOOKING OVER ORIGINALLY AT THE SOUTHERN REGION.
NOW WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY COUNTYWIDE TO, UM, TRY TO COORDINATE GROWTH, UH, FOR, FOR THE COUNTY.
IN ADDITION, WE'VE DONE JOINT PLANNING EFFORTS FOR THE AIR STATION, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PREVENT ENCROACHMENT, THE, THE STORM WATER DESIGN MANUAL, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE FIRST, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THIS COMMITTEE.
SO WE DO HAVE THIS, THIS REAL HISTORY OF REGIONAL PLANNING THAT I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR APPETITE TO DO A FULL BLOWN PLANNING EFFORTS AS A REGION.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH ALL THE CHAPTERS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY THAT IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AS A COMMITTEE AS OUR BEST PATH FORWARD.
AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT, UM, THAT REGION CAN WORK TOGETHER,
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PRODUCE A PRODUCT, AND MAYBE BE MEMORIALIZED THROUGH LOCAL, UH, INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS THAT I THINK ARE MORE EFFECTIVE AND MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR.UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE REGIONAL PLANNING EFFORTS WE'VE HAD IN OUR COUNTY A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
I WAS INVITED TO WILLIAMSON COUNTY, TENNESSEE, WHICH IS THE COUNTY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF NASHVILLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
I GUESS A LOT OF COUNTRY MUSIC SINGERS LIVED THERE.
BUT, UM, THEY HAD A SEVEN DIFFERENT, UH, JURISDICTIONS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO MODIFY THEIR GROWTH BOUNDARIES, WHICH THEY HAVE TO DO, UH, SOMETHING THAT TENNESSEE REQUIRES.
BUT THEY, THEY HAD ASKED, UM, ME TO SPEAK ABOUT OUR REGIONAL PLANNING EFFORTS 'CAUSE THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE MADE.
UM, BUT THEY DIDN'T DO A FULL BLOWN PLAN.
THEY DID SOMETHING IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEY CALLED A SYMPOSIUM WHERE THEY, THEY INVITED DIFFERENT SPEAKERS AND KINDA LOOKED AT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE NECESSARY STEPS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ENGAGE IN A RE REGIONAL PLANNING EFFORT.
ANOTHER MODEL IS, UM, LAST FALL WE HAD A, WHAT, WHAT THEY CALLED A REGIONAL ACCELERATOR.
THIS WAS LOOKING SPECIFICALLY AT RESILIENCE PLANNING ISSUES, BUT WE HAD A, A ROOM FULL OF STAKEHOLDERS WITH SOME VERY, UM, GUIDED ACTIVITIES TO KIND OF LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WORKING TOGETHER AS A GROUP AND, AND WORKING THROUGH SOME DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND TRYING TO COME, COME TO CONSUM SOME CONSENSUS.
AND I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS TYPE OF EFFORT, YOU KNOW, A WORKSHOP THAT WOULD BE A SINGLE OR MAYBE TWO DAY, YOU KNOW, TWO SEPARATE DAY EVENT IS THE BEST MODEL WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A, UM, AN INDEPENDENT FACILITATOR.
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH SO MANY LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO HAVE SOMEBODY MAYBE WHO IS A DISINTERESTED PARTY THAT IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF REGIONAL PLANNING AND MAYBE ASKING SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS.
AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD INVOLVE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE REGION THAT HAVING THE DECISION MAKERS AT THE TABLE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS, I THINK IS, IS GONNA BE MAKING SURE THAT IS MORE IN LINE WITH, WITH THE WISHES OF THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS, BUT ALSO I THINK THAT WOULD MUCH, YOU KNOW, ENSURE MUCH GREATER CHANCE OF SUCCESS.
UM, AND WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE FINAL PRODUCT OUT OF THIS COULD BE SOME SORT OF ROADMAP.
WHETHER IT, MAYBE IT, IT, IT'S A COMBINATION OF, OF A MAP, SOME GENERAL AGREEMENTS ON LAND USE, UM, SOME POLICIES THAT WE ALL AGREE ON, MAYBE SHARING OF INFORMATION THAT IS IN A, IN SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SHORT DOCUMENT THAT WE COULD ALL ADOPT BY RESOLUTION.
THAT'S KIND OF OUR VISION FOR WHERE WE THINK THE THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
AND I GUESS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST OF, SO LOCO IS THAT, UM, OUR COMMITTEE, WE HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THIS MIGHT MEAN IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IF WE DID HIRE AN OUTSIDE FACILITATOR, WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN IN TERMS OF COST.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO THE COMMITTEE IS IF IT'S, IF, IF THERE IS VALUE IN PURSUING THIS, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS COME BACK AT THE APRIL MEETING OR YOU KNOW, WHATEVER MEETING, NEXT MEETING, YOU CAN GET US ON THE AGENDA TO COME UP WITH SOME MORE SPECIFICS AND REALLY CHART HOW THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S, IF THE INTEREST OF THE COMMITTEE, HOW THAT WOULD THEN BE FORWARDED INTO AN ACTIONABLE, UH, ITEM.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, ROB AND UH, AGAIN, THE BEAUFORD JASPER HOUSING TRUST WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE.
AND, AND THE STORMWATER ORDINANCE WAS THE SAME.
WHAT WHAT WE WOULD REQUEST OF YOU IS A ESTIMATE ON WHAT THIS WAS COST, THEN WHAT WOULD WOULD, AND BREAK IT DOWN BY POPULATION, WHAT IT WOULD COST EACH JURISDICTION TO HIRE THIS FACILITATOR.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO AGAIN, TAKE IT BACK TO OUR COUNCILORS, WHOEVER WANTS TO PARTICIPATE.
'CAUSE EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS ARE OPTIONAL.
SO COST TOTAL, HOW IT WOULD BREAK DOWN BY POPULATION FOR EACH JURISDICTION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE THAT COME BACK, TELL US AND THEN WE WILL TAKE IT TO OUR JURISDICTIONS TO ASK EACH JURISDICTION IF THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE.
THAT'S HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST.
MAYOR WILLIAMS, I WANTED TO, IF EVERYONE ON THAT COMMITTEE WOULD STAND UP, I WANNA SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT WAS ON IT.
THEY SO MUCH WORK AND, AND SO, SO MANY
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GOOD DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD.THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG OF THE WORK THAT THEY DID.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR WILLIAMS. I, I THINK THEY'D BE READY PROBABLY BY THE APRIL MEETING TO DO THAT.
UM, AND WE WERE ALL, I'LL SAY IT, UM, WANTED TO GET IT TO THE JURISDICTIONS BEFORE BUDGET TIME TOO, SO PEOPLE COULD THINK ABOUT IT IN YOUR BUDGET.
APRIL WOULD BE APRIL WOULD BE IDEAL.
'CAUSE THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE IT, EACH ONE OF US HAS TO TAKE IT TO OUR COUNCILS AND TO SEE IF WE WANNA PARTICIPATE.
ROB, DO YOU ENVISION THIS BEING LIKE NORTH ABROAD, SOUTH ABROAD, TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS OR ONE BIG EVENT WITH EVERYBODY TOGETHER? UM, I THINK OUR VISION IS IT COULD BE A SINGLE EVENT, BUT I THINK WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY WE DO HAVE GROWTH BOUNDARIES.
SO THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS OF ARE THOSE WORKING FOR US? YOU KNOW, COULD BE, COULD BE BROUGHT UP.
UM, REAL QUICK, JUST TO COMMENT AND FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
THAT WAS A LOT DIGEST AND A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, IS THE FOCUS GROWTH BOUNDARIES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE GROWTH BOUNDARIES IN PLACE NORTH OF ABROAD AND OR DOES THAT INCLUDE THE DEVELOPMENT CODES IN PLACE? BECAUSE WHAT'S CONFUSING TO ME A LOT OF TIMES IS AS, AS A NEW NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIAL, UM, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THINGS ARE WORKING, THE DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE CONFUSING BECAUSE I'M LIKE, HERE WE HAVE GROWTH BOUNDARIES IN PLACE WITH IDENTIFIED GOALS TO SAY PRESERVE 60% OF THE LAND MASS OR WHATEVER THE IDENTIFIED INITIATIVE IS.
BUT THEN YOUR DEVELOPMENT CODE DOESN'T ENCOURAGE THAT.
IT ALMOST ENCOURAGES A COMPETITIVE SPIRIT BECAUSE A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALLOWED IN, UH, SAY, MUNICIPALITY IS ALSO ALLOWED IN THE COUNTY.
SO IF I WANTED TO BUILD A HOTEL WITH 25 ROOMS OR MORE, I COULD DO IT IN THE COUNTY OR I CAN DO IT IN THE CITY.
UM, IF I WANTED TO BUILD ON ONE SINGLE PARCEL AND I WANTED TO HAVE THREE RESIDENTS, I COULD DO IT IN THE COUNTY.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S NECESSARILY A GROWTH BOUNDARY ISSUE.
IT MIGHT BE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT CODES DON'T COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.
IN FACT, THEY, THEY COMPETE IN A LOT OF WAYS.
AND SO WOULD THE, THE, THE MISSION OF THIS, UH, CHARETTE BOTH DISCUSS GROWTH BOUNDARIES AND HOW THE DEVELOPMENT CODES COULD BETTER WORK IN CONJUNCTION TO PRESERVE PROPERTY AND THEN ENCOURAGE MORE DENSE DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY EXIST.
YEAH, I THINK IT COULD DO BOTH.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THAT MAYBE THE FIRST STEP IS AGREEING ON THE BOUNDARIES AND THEN THIS EFFORT COULD LEAD TO SOME FURTHER TASKS.
'CAUSE I THINK IF WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO, UH, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS OR REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT ZONING ORDINANCES, THAT'S, THAT'S A MUCH LARGER TASK.
AND MAYBE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK FORWARD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, INTERMEDIATE AND LONG-TERM GOALS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, 'CAUSE WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT, IS THAT, UM, WE DREW THE BOUNDARIES, BUT WE DREW IN, UM, POLICIES THAT MADE THAT ENCOURAGED ANNEXATION, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, UH, IF SOMEBODY WAS, UM, CONSIDERING AN UPZONING IN THE COUNTY, THAT THEY WERE FIRST, UH, GIVEN THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO CONSIDER ANNEXATION INTO A MUNICIPALITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE DID LOOK AT THAT IN, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A SERIES OF POLICIES BUILT INTO AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT.
SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT STEPS THAT WE COULD TAKE, BUT I, I AGREE.
I MEAN, I THINK HAVING BETTER, UM, COORDINATED ZONING IS, IS, IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY MAKE THE, THE JOB EASIER.
ANYONE ELSE? SO WILL, UM, BARRON, YOU TELL ME SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I'LL PUT YOU ON THE, UH, APRIL AGENDA AND YOU CAN COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE WITH A COST.
AND, UH, WHAT IF YOU COULD OUTLINE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THAT CHARETTE SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR AND WHAT WE PLAN TO GET OUT OF IT.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UM, MS. HOWARD? YES, SIR.
UH, IN THAT ESTIMATE, COULD YOU GIVE US OPTIONS? MM-HMM
UH, IT ALWAYS SEEMS THAT WE GET ONE OPTION, YES OR NO.
AND I LIKE TO SEE MAYBE ONE CHARETTE OR MAYBE MULTIPLE CHARETTES TO SEE HOW
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MUCH THAT COSTS.AND MAYBE IT'S BENEFICIAL BECAUSE YOU, WHERE YOU PUT IT IS GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
'CAUSE YOU GOT JASPER, WHICH IS GONNA BE A FAR AWAY.
HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM JASPER ARE GONNA COME TO BEAUFORD, OR HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM BEAUFORT ARE GONNA COME TO JASPER.
SO JUST MAYBE A, A A KIND OF A ESTIMATE OF EACH ONE SO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHICH IS BETTER.
AND IT COULD BE THAT, UM, SOMETIMES EVEN WHEN YOU, UH, DO AN RFQ OR RFP AND GET, UM, RESULTS FROM A CONSULTANT, THEY MIGHT HAVE LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO PHASE A AND THEN THERE'S AN OPTION TO DO PHASE B.
AND MAYBE THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING.
SO WE COULD LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND TO ALL OUR, UH, SUBCOMMITTEES WHO HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD, UH, CHILDCARE, BEAUFORT, JASPER HOUSING TRUST, AND, AND OF COURSE THE GROWTH IES, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING IN THE TIME TO HELP MAKE OUR REGION A BETTER PLACE AND A BETTER PLANNED COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.
UM, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS ALREADY FOR APRIL AGENDA, WE WILL ASK THE, UH, 20 YEAR PLAN TASK FORCE THAT, UH, IS BEING PLANNED TO COME FORWARD.
UM, WE'LL PUT THE, UM, GROWTH BOUNDARIES
[Discussion of April agenda]
ON THE AGENDA AS WELL.AND, UM, I THINK, UH, JOSH, YOU HAD RECOMMEND, UH, SOMEONE TO COME TALK ABOUT THE WETLANDS.
I BELIEVE MS. KIMMEL, THAT YOU SENT ME HER NAME, SO, UH, I'LL REACH OUT TO THEM.
'CAUSE WE TOLD THEM WE WOULD PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA.
THE BOARD, UH, PUT THAT AS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT.
BUT I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO HER YET.
AND IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM ME ON THAT, JUST LET ME KNOW.
AND I THINK, UH, KATE SCHAFER, UH, WANTED TO BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL, RIGHT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYBE, UM, DID BLUFFING JUST PASS AN ORDINANCE PROTECTING WETLANDS? ARE YOU, YES.
WELL, THEY, ARE YOU WILLING TO SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT CONVERSATION, THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.
YOU KNOW, UH, AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH OUR, UH, COUNCIL AS WELL THAT, UM, THEY CHANGED THEIR, UH, BUFFERS TO WETLANDS RIGHT.
SO MAYBE MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO JUST SPEAK REAL QUICK ON THAT? NO, NO.
WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS PUT YOU, I GUESS I JUST VOLUNTEERED MYSELF.
RIGHT? I'D LIKE TO PUT YOU ON THE APRIL AGENDA.
WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT BECAUSE I, I'M ALREADY GUILTY OF MAKING THIS GO OVER AN HOUR.
I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO ADD TO MY GUILT RIDDEN CONSCIOUS TODAY.
SO, UM, WE'LL PUT DOWN THE BLUFF IN ORDINANCE AND MS. KIMMEL.
I THINK I GOT ENOUGH TO FILL AN HOUR.
I WON'T HEAR THE END OF THIS NOW.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.
I THINK IT'S SOME VERY PRODUCTIVE UPDATES.
AGAIN, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO WORKED ON THIS.
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SEEN PERSON THAT DON'T LOOK AS NICE.THEY'RE ABOUT TAKE, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT MAKES THEM HAPPEN.
AND, BUT ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WOULD JUST AS LONG AS EVERYBODY KNOWS.
SO WHAT YOU CAN NOT ALL CITY ANIMALS AND THEN THEY JUST DON'T, THEY DON'T USE IT.
THIS IS HER OBLIGATION WITH THE PD.
I DON'T HAVE MONEY TO LIKE, BUT IF YOU DID, YOU PROBABLY WOULD HUH? AGAINST IT.
LIKE, I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE MY TOSSING THE FIVE MAKES THEM HAPPY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I TOOK TWO CATS, HAD TO BRING 'EM BACK.
I HEARD AJ ON THE RADIO THE OTHER DAY.
TELL ANOTHER OFFICER, ANOTHER COUNTY OFFICER.
WHAT IF I HAD TO POSSIBLE, WHERE WOULD I STAND? SO THERE'S NO GUARANTEE OF A LADY CALLED ME YESTERDAY ABOUT CATS.
WANT SIT NEXT TO THAT, SIT NEXT TO JOEY.
SO WHEREVER YOU WANT, I'LL GO THE OTHER.
BUT I, I SAID MA'AM, WE CAN'T, I CAN'T COME AND TRAP YOUR CATS RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO TAKE THEM.
AND SHE SAYS SHE LOGGED, DONE.
WELL I THINK ONE OF 'EM MIGHT HAVE SCRATCHED MY GRANDKID.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, CHANGES WHEN HIS CATS HURT SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY'S GOING BE IN TROUBLE.
I SAID, NOW WHO'S GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE? YEAH.
I SAID, CAN YOU NOT RUN THE CATS OUT THE YARD? SHE SAID, NO, YOU'RE NOT.
I SAID, I DON'T HAVE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT I, AS SOON AS I DO, I'LL CALL YOU AND I'LL TRY THE CATS.
THE EXPERIENCE YOU NEED TO COME GET THESE CATS.
THEY SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT ARMADILLO.
I PAID TOO MUCH MONEY FOR Y'ALL NOT TO ARMADILLOS.
WHAT DO WITH AN ARMADILLO?
THIS DAMN PARKING AND HOW WORKING ADDICTION, YOU'RE 80 BY CHOICE OR BECAUSE YOU NEED COMPLAIN.
YOU DON'T WORK HERE UNTIL YOU'RE 80 MORE YEARS.
SO I'M TO GET BY AUGUST YEARS INVESTED.
SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE? OVER EIGHT YEARS Y'ALL.
SO WE PUT IN MONEY TO RETIREMENT.
IT BECOMES A HUNDRED PERCENT IT BECOMES YOURS.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LEFT, YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT IN THE MONEY THAT YOU PUT INTO IT.
I MEAN LIKE YOU PUT IN WHATEVER CITY PUT IN LIKE 15%, TOP YOUR PERCENT.
SO AT EIGHT YEARS THAT 15% BECOMES OPTION.
AND THEY'VE DONE IT FOR PAYCHECK.
ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET ACCESS TO 24% TOTAL AS FAR BE
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GET IN TOUCH WITH THE HOA.WHATCHA Y'ALL DOING ABOUT IT? DOING THE REST OF I GOT NINE, NINE DAYS AS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THAT I'M ELIGIBLE.
SO SAYING THERE A PROBLEM WITH THE ABOUT THEM X TWO OR THREE JOBS AFTER SAID, WHAT'S THE DAMN WELL I WANT TO, THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
DUI WE'RE NOT COVERED FOR THEM.
JUST PARK ON THE SIDE OF THE ROOF.
DON'T, I HATE TO INTERRUPT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN 20 BECAUSE I HAVE TO DEAL THAT ALL TIME.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE H HO A THAT IS NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE CITY WILL PAY, THEY CAN PARK IN THE ROADWAY CERTAIN PORTION.
HOW DO YOU PARK IN THE ROADWAY? THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME.
LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM IN THE DRIVEWAY.
AND ALSO THE PEOPLE WORKING THERE AND HAVE TO PARK IN THE ROADWAY.
AND PEOPLE HAVE CALLED, WE'VE HAD TO GO OUT.
WE'VE NEVER GOT, THEY FUSS ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S A HOA THING.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT INSURANCE RESTAURANT CONSTRUCTION STILL IT'S, ITS PEOPLE CHEAPER FOR ME TO DO THAT RENT OR, OR SOMEBODY LIVING IN THOSE HOUSES AND IT DON'T AND THEY AND YOU CAN'T DRIVE AROUND THE BACK PARK.
THEY'RE NOT DRIVING AROUND THE ON SIXTH GRADER.
THAT'S A PRIVATE ROADWAY, RIGHT? YES SIR.
SO IF THEY SIGN THE PRIVATE ROADWAY OVER TO US TO ENFORCE LAW, IF THEY ASSIGNED IT OVER TO US, THAT'S A DIFFERENT THING.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A PRIVATE THAT FEELS REALLY GOOD.
THE ONLY THING WE CAN ENFORCE RIGHT NOW IS IF THEY'RE BLOCKING THE ROADWAY TO WIDTH A FIRE AND EMERGENCY APPARATUS CAN'T GET THROUGH, THEN WE CAN DO SOMETHING.
BUT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ING ABOUT THIS STUFF, GARY, THE WHOLE TIME.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I HAVE TROUBLE WITH COURSE, BUT HOA GIVES US THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE.
BUT BEING A PRO, EVEN IF THEY, BECAUSE THE LIFE IT USED TO BE LIKE 55, 67 WHEN YOU GET IN, YOU START TALKING ABOUT CALLING BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING ALL, YOU'RE PRETTY CAMERA.
I THOUGHT A DAY JOB THAT FELT WAS CHALLENGING THE FIELD ON THE SIDE.
I'LL DO EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO DO.
WHICH IS MORE JUST ENFORCE IT.
ENFORCEABLE PD I WOULDN'T IN FRONT OF.
AND I KNEW THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
EXPECTATIONS DON'T BRING ATTENTION TO IT.
I'M GETTING CLOSE TO HALF AN INCH SHAVE LIMIT.
YOU CAN'T HAVE, I SHAVED MINE AND I HAD JUST, AND I CAME IN AND HE LOOKS AT ME.
I KNEW RELIGION REQUIRES ME TO HAVE.
YOU BETTER PUT YOUR STUFF DOWN.
HE DROVE WAGON THE WORST IN HIS, YOU.
IT DEPENDS MAYBE ON THE SIZE OF THE WEDDING.
MOM WAS OUTPATIENT MEAN I'VE ENJOYED, I'VE ENJOYED DOING THAT HERE.
SO I'M NOT SAYING NO, IT DEPENDS ON GET OVER.
WE HAD, WE HAD A GUY IN A PHONE COMPANY, ONE OF OUR MECHANICS AND HE USED TO CALL HIM HAPPY.
HE WOULD COMB IT AND OVER LIKE THIS.
HE'D TAKE THE CARS ON A TEST RIDE.
HE'D COME BACK AND HIS WAS ON ONE SIDE ABOUT TWO FEET LONG.
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LEAST IT'S ORIGINAL.YOU WHAT? SITTING THERE? ANYBODY WHO PASSES.
YOU KNOW WHAT, RYAN 90 WAS 80 AND ABOVE ANYTHING BELOW 80.
YOU, YOU WERE, IT WAS LIKE AN RV P THING.
I PROBABLY DID BECAUSE I NEED TO BE HERE.
I'M NOT LEAVING THEN, BUT I, YEAH.
DID YOU, WHY DO YOU BE GOOD IN THE COURTROOM? 'CAUSE YOU HAVE A POKER FACE.
SO LIKE YOU LEAVE A, LIKE YOU'D BE REALLY GOOD AT LIKE, WAS THIS YOU WE NEED TO BRING BACK.
I REMEMBER THEY MADE THE VIDEO RUNNING.
IT'S HARD TO GET YOUR MONEY OUT WHEN YOU GET IT OUT.
IT'S HARD TO GET IT OUT SOMETIMES.
IT'S JUST THE FACIAL EXPRESSIONS TOO.
WE'LL HAVE FUN CONVERSATIONS AND WE JUST, IF YOU'RE BLUNT OR SHAKE HIS HEAD.
BROWN, ARE YOU IN THE CLASS? IN THE CLASS? I 11 AND Y'ALL TO LAST.
I, BECAUSE I HAVE ALREADY SIX, I'M IN CLASS.
NOT ENOUGH DOING SOMEBODY SITTING HERE.
THEY, I'M TELLING YOU THIS YEAR DRESS UP LIKE FOR TIME AND MONEY.
I THOUGHT TED WAS JUST GONNA PAY ATTENTION.
HOW YOU DOING? HOW YOU DOING THAT? NOT UNUSUAL.
YOU LAST NIGHT BIG GIRL SAYS IN, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT.
IS IT LITERAL? I HOPE Y'ALL DON'T BURN DOWN.
Y'ALL SEE HOW THAT WORKS? IT'S LITERALLY COMING.
THEY, WE APPROVED ALL ABOUT THE ONE OUT THERE IN BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WORKING
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ON THAT.SPEND MONEY AND UH, THEY CAN REALLY HAVE IT.
HE, OKAY, I'M GONNA SHARE THE VIDEO.
YOU, YOU GO TO SPRINGFIELD COLORS.
TWO DIFFERENT COLORS RIGHT HERE.
WE'RE ALL LEAVING THIS SUMMER.
DO YOU I GO UP NEED TO YOUR YOU STAY.
DO YOU LIKE SEEING WHERE THEY GO? THEY TRAVEL LIKE THE FIRST THAT FRENCH, THEY'RE HE'S GOTTA BE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN AN SOMEWHERE ELSE PART.
I'M HERE TO GET A CAPITAL SIZE PICTURE.
UM, TEST, TEST, TEST, TEST, TEST, TEST, TEST, TEST.
EVEN THOUGH WE, CAN YOU HEAR ME? PUT YOUR BOOTS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME MR. HAY, JUST TAKE THE COVER.
I CAN, BUT I'M GONNA NEED FOR Y'ALL TO GIMME THE ABILITY TO SHARE MY SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
JAMES, DID YOU HEAR THAT? YES.
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YOU HEAR GEORGE? JAMES? I CAN, I CAN HEAR YOU ALL.WHAT'S HIS NAME? NAME? UM, I THINK I JUST GAVE YOU THE VIDEO TO SHARE.
NO, IT'S NOT THAT, THAT FEATURE IS NOT ACTIVATED, SO YOU MAY HAVE TO MAKE ME A PRESENTER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
LEMME SEE IF I'M GONNA TRY AND SHARE MY SCREEN RIGHT NOW.
I DID YOU SEE IT? I CAN'T BE ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN NOW.
I KNOW THAT GUY DO KNOW YOU'RE HERE ABOUT DO YOU SEE THE SLIDES MOVING? OKAY, I, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER Y'ALL READY.
AND HOW LONG DO I HAVE YOU BRING YOUR CHAIR OVER THERE ON THE SL.
UM, SUBMIT IT TO, UH, OUR ATTORNEY.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA RIDE IT FOR COLUMBIA.
BA HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GONNA GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? HUH?
SEE MR. BROWN AND THEN WE GOT LIKE PALM RICO.
HE'S ALREADY GOT, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
I LEARNED A SO, UH, IS SOMEBODY GONNA READ THE QUESTIONS TO ME AT THE END? IS THAT HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT? GETS ON.
WHAT DOES HE SAY? GER? YEAH, LET'S JUST HOLD THE QUESTIONS TO THE END.
UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE TO DO THIS PRESENTATION? I THINK HE NEEDS A DAMN CROWN ROLL.
HOW MUCH
THAT'S HALF THE TIME IT NORMALLY TAKES TO DO THIS PRESENTATION, SO I'LL HAVE TO FLY THROUGH IT AND SKIP.
IS THIS IN ENGLISH? IT'S A LOOSE DEFINITION.
JUST LEMME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR ME TODAY.
IF YOU WANT GO AHEAD AND GET SOMETHING TO EAT WHILE WE WORKING.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE GONNA STEP OUT MY QUICK THANK WHEN YOU CAN.
YEAH, JUST LEMME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.
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AM TOO SHORT.HAVE WALL MR. THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION HE ALWAYS ASK.
AND THEY PUT EXTRA IN HIS POCKET.
YEAH, HE PROBABLY DIED WITH MAYONNAISE PACKS IN HIS POCKET.
HE PROBABLY DID BE A HO IN THE ALL THE TIME.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT JUST ASK A QUESTION AND YOU CERTAINLY DON'T NEED TO ASK HIM.
I WAS LIKE, LET'S, I NEED TO LET YOU KNOW.
I LIKE WE YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE.
YOU CAN DO AND YOU CAN DO IT RIGHT ON YOUR COMPUTER.
TELL ONE MAIN TREES PRESERVATION.
AND THEN, UH, ONE OF THE, HE JUST CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD.
I DIDN'T EXPECT HIM TO SAY THAT.
I WAS JUST, I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT.
SHE GOT ME STARTED BUYING THOSE THINGS BECAUSE SAM, I HAVE LIKE A 50,000.
YOU GOT EVERYTHING UP IN FRONT OF YOU.
I ACTUALLY PLAYED LIKE ALL MY BAD HABITS ARE GONE AND I JUST SWING EASY.
MY PARTNER WAS ONE OF THE GOALIES FOR THE RIGHT OUTSIDE.
SO THEY PAY 10 BUCKS AROUND SO EVERY THEY PLAY AN HOUR.
THEY EVEN HAVE A SPICY PICKLE OPTION.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, BUT I DIDN'T THINK
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WE WERE THE TWO GUYS THAT CAME TO PLAY WITH US.WHICH THURSDAY? I THERE SANDWICHES PEOPLE, SANDWICH WATER.
WHAT YOU SAY? BOLOGNA SANDWICH.
Y'ALL HAVE TOO MUCH WATER OVER THERE.
Y'ALL HAVE THE PD KNOWS HOW TO MAKE SANDWICHES, RIGHT? DO WE ALWAYS BUY THE VARIETY BAGS? DON'T, DON'T DO THAT NO MORE.
DON'T DO THAT NO MORE SNOW SHAVE NOVEMBER.
IT LOOKS LIKE YOU NEED TO RIDE UP ON THE HOLLYWOOD LITTLE ZZ TOP MUSIC PLAY.
UM, GETTING, I'M GONNA SCHEDULE YOU HATE PEOPLE, SICK PEOPLE.
I REMEMBER YOU COULD LIKE SPONSOR IT AND NAME STUFF AFTER YOU.
ONE OF THE AUCTION THAT'S ROAST FOR SURE.
SHE'S SMART ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT EVEN SHE'S SMART.
EVEN SHE'S, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I WANNA DO IT FOLKS.
I, OH WAIT, I HAVE SOME MANNA.
I JUST, I ONLY USE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP.
YOU THINK THAT'S THE 25 CENTS MORE?
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OH YEAH.NO, HERE HE'S NEED FOR ANYTHING.
NOT A GREAT DEAL, BUT CAN LISTEN.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
I'LL EITHER PUT YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT OR JUST SAVE THEM TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU.
I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO WHILE DOING THESE PRESENTATIONS IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START THINKING ABOUT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, UH, PLANNING FOR THEIR RETIREMENT.
AND YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO RETIRE TO DO THAT.
YOU NEED TO START, UH, IMMEDIATELY.
THE QUICKER YOU START PLANNING, THE BETTER OFF YOU'LL BE.
AND SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PUTTING A PLAN TOGETHER, HERE'S A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE THINK YOU COULD ANSWER, UH, AS PART OF THAT PLAN.
WHEN CAN I RETIRE? I'M GONNA ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
UH, BECAUSE RETIREMENT ELIGIBILITY IS PRETTY MUCH DETERMINED BY STATE LAW.
SO WE GO OVER THOSE DIFFERENT CRITERIA FOR WHEN YOU CAN RETIRE.
WHEN YOU SHOULD RETIRE, ONLY YOU CAN DETERMINE THAT YOU NOW YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT TIME FOR YOU TO RETIRE BASED ON YOUR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES, BASED ON YOUR FINANCES, BASED ON WHAT YOUR FUTURE PLANS MAY BE.
WHAT DO YOU PLAN TO DO AFTER YOU RETIRE? THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT.
AND YOU NEED TO ADDRESS HOW WHEN YOU RETIRE, BUT BEFORE YOU RETIRE, DON'T WAIT UNTIL YOU RETIRE TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO AFTER RETIREMENT.
YOU'RE GONNA FIND IF YOU WAIT THAT LONG, YOU'RE GONNA FIND THAT'S REALLY A DIFFICULT, UH, CHALLENGE THAT YOU WILL HAVE.
UH, IF YOU PLAN TO WORK AFTER RETIREMENT, WHICH A LOT OF, UH, FOLKS THAT RETIRE FROM THE STATE DO.
UH, WHERE YOU WORK MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU DECIDE TO WORK FOR AN EMPLOYER UNDER THE STATE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, UH, UNLESS YOU'RE A CERTAIN AGE WHEN YOU RETIRE, YOU MAY BE SUBJECT TO EARNING LIMITATION.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONCE YOU MAKE SO MUCH MONEY, YOUR RETIREMENT CHECK IS SUSPENDED FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
THAT DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU ARE WORKING OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM.
AND ALSO IF YOU'RE WORKING UNDER THE SYSTEM, YOU CAN'T COME BACK UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN OFF PAYROLL FOR 30 CONSECUTIVE CALENDAR DAYS.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA TERMINATE FOR A MINIMUM OF 30, UH, CONSECUTIVE DAYS BEFORE YOU COME BACK TO WORK.
AND THEN YOU WANNA BE SURE BEFORE YOU COME BACK TO WORK THAT YOU ARE NOT SUBJECT TO AN EARNING LIMITATION.
BECAUSE IF YOU ARE, YOU'D PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF WORKING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, WHEN SHOULD YOU START GROWING SOCIAL SECURITY? UH, AGAIN, THAT'S A GOOD GOAL OF PERSONAL QUESTION.
THERE'S DIFFERENT POINTS WHERE YOU CAN DRAW IT AND THE AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START DRAWING IT WILL DETERMINE THE AMOUNT THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
THE BEST WAY TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE, GO ON THE SOCIAL SECURITY WEBSITE, WHICH IS SSA.GOV AND CREATE A SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT.
ONCE YOU DO THAT, IT WILL SHOW THE DIFFERENT POINTS AT WHICH YOU CAN START DRAWING IT AND WHAT YOUR ESTIMATED BENEFIT, UH, WILL BE.
THE EARLIEST YOU CAN DRAW IT UNLESS YOU'RE DISABLED AS 8 62.
THE PROBLEM IS WITH 8 62, YOU'RE TAKING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION OVER 25%.
UM, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO TAKE IT THEN.
AND YOU CERTAINLY, UH, CAN DO THAT.
UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW ARE WAITING MORE AND MORE UNTIL THEY GET CLOSER TO THE FULL RETIREMENT AGE.
YOUR FULL RETIREMENT AGE IS DETERMINED BASED ON THE YEAR IN WHICH YOU WERE BORN.
ANYONE, ANYONE BORN IN 1960 OR AFTER YOUR FULL RETIREMENT AGE IS 67.
THE FULL RETIREMENT AGE IS THE POINT.
YOU CAN DRAW SOCIAL SECURITY AND NOT HAVE A PENALTY FOR EARLY RETIREMENT.
EVEN IF YOU ARE CONTINUING TO WORK, IF YOU TAKE IT EARLY, NOT ONLY ARE YOU GONNA GET PENALIZED BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING IT EARLY, IF YOU KEEP WORKING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE AN EARNING LIMITATION AS WELL, WHICH MEANS YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY STARTS TO BE DEPLETED ONCE YOU MAKE SO MUCH MONEY.
UH, IF YOU WANNA GET THE MAXIMUM BENEFIT, YOU CAN WAIT UNTIL 8 78 70
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IS THE MAXIMUM POSSIBLE BENEFIT YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.NOW, ONCE YOU RETIRED AND ONCE YOU START DRAWING IT, YOU'VE LOCKED IN THAT AMOUNT, IT WILL GO UP DUE THE COST OF LIVING RAISES THAT YOU GET IN JANUARY, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA GO UP WHEN YOU REACH A CERTAIN AGE.
SO IF YOU RETIRED 62 AND YOU TAKE THAT EARLY RETIREMENT PENALTY, THAT EARLY RETIREMENT PENALTY WILL BE WITH YOU FOREVER.
UH, HOW WILL HEALTHCARE COSTS IMPACT YOU IN RETIREMENT? YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR EMPLOYER AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND RETIREMENT.
IF NOT, YOU NEED TO START FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU WANNA DO IN TERMS OF HAVING HEALTHCARE COVERAGE IN RETIREMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE, UM, BIGGEST DRIVERS OF EXPENDITURE IN RETIREMENT IS THE COST OF HEALTHCARE.
AS YOU, YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN YOU GET OLDER, UH, YOU NEED MORE AND MORE.
UM, HEALTHCARE, I'M FINDING THAT OUT.
YOU KNOW, I'M SPENDING MORE THAN I'VE EVER HAD ON, ON HEALTHCARE EVEN THOUGH I HAVE, UH, GOOD HEALTH INSURANCE.
UH, IF ONCE YOU TURN 65 AND YOU GO ON MEDICARE, UH, YOU SHOULD BE OKAY BECAUSE YOU CAN GET A, YOU KNOW, MEDICARE PLUS A MEDICARE SUPPLEMENT AND THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF MOST OF YOUR HEALTHCARE NEEDS.
UM, BUT THE, THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT YOU GONNA DO BETWEEN THE TIME YOU RETIRE AND THE TIME YOU TURN 65? YOU KNOW, OUR STATE EMPLOYEES WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AND IF WE WORK LONG ENOUGH, WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP IT AT THE SAME RATE AS WE PAY AS EMPLOYEES.
BUT, UH, YOU WORK FOR A MUNICIPALITY, SO YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR PROVISIONS ARE IN TERMS OF PROVIDING HEALTHCARE, UH, COVERAGE FOR YOU IN RETIREMENT.
AND FINALLY, ARE YOU MENTALLY AND FINANCIALLY READY? UH, THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I'M MORE THAN FINANCIALLY READY.
I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M, I HAVE 36 YEARS IN THE SYSTEM AND WILL HAVE 37 BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
BASICALLY, IF I RETIRED, I CAN RETIRE TOMORROW.
AND MY SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK, WHICH I'M ALREADY DRAWING AND MY PENSION FROM THE STATE WILL BE MORE THAN MY SALARY.
SO FINANCIALLY I'M READY, BUT I'M STILL WORKING BECAUSE I'M NOT MENTALLY READY TO RETIRE.
UH, I FOUND OUT DURING COVID WHEN I WORKED FROM HOME, UH, HOW DIFFICULT THAT WAS.
I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT HARD.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T WAIT TILL THEY RETIRE.
I'M REALLY NOT LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
I LOVE, I LOVE WORKING AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL BE 70 YEARS OLD HERE IN JUNE AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN I RETIRE BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY NOT MENTALLY READY FOR IT.
I LIKE WHAT I DO AND I WANT TO KEEP DOING IT FOR AS LONG AS I CAN.
SO THE STATE OFFERS TWO DIFFERENT RETIREMENT PLANS AS EMPLOYEES, UH, OR MUNICIPALITY ARE ONLY ELIGIBLE FOR THE FIRST ONE.
THE FIRST ONE IS WE CALL IT A DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN.
AND THAT IS ESSENTIALLY A PENSION PLAN.
AND WE HAVE THE SOUTH CAROLINA RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND THE POLICE OFFICER'S RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
THOSE ARE TRADITIONAL PENSION PLANS THAT WILL PAY YOU A LIFETIME BENEFIT.
LONG AFTER YOUR MONEY RUNS OUT, THE SYSTEM WILL STILL CONTINUE TO PAY YOU A BENEFIT THAT WILL NOT GO DOWN.
THAT BENEFIT IS NOT BASED ON HOW MUCH MONEY YOU PUT IN THE SYSTEM, IT'S BASED ON A FORMULA THAT WE WILL GO OVER.
IF YOU BECOME DISABLED CONCEIVABLE YOU COULD QUALIFY FOR DISABILITY RETIREMENT BENEFITS THROUGH US.
AND ALSO IN THE EVENT OF YOUR DEATH, YOUR BENEFICIARIES MAY BE ENTITLED TO RECEIVE A BENEFIT FROM, UH, THE STATE.
THE OTHER PLAN IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, STATE AGENCIES AND UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES.
THAT'S OUR DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN THAT WORKS MORE LIKE A 401K.
SO YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
UH, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT IN MOST CASES, MOST PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY NOT GONNA WORK LONG ENOUGH TO WHERE THEIR RETIREMENT BY ITSELF OR EVEN WITH SOCIAL SECURITY MIGHT PROVIDE 'EM WITH SUFFICIENT INCOME TO MEET THEIR FINANCIAL NEED IN RETIREMENT.
SO WE OFFER YOU THE ABILITY TO SAVE AND INVEST ADDITIONAL FUNDS ON YOUR OWN.
UH, AND THROUGH OUR VOLUNTARY SUPPLEMENTAL RETIREMENT SAVINGS PLAN THAT WE CALL THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEFERRED COMPENSATION PROGRAMS. YOU HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT PLANS YOU CAN CHOOSE FROM AGAIN, AND TWO OF 'EM ARE FREE TAX.
THAT'S A FREE TAX, 401K AND A PRE-TAX 4 57 AND AN AFTER TAX OR A ROTH 401K AND A ROTH 4 57.
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YOU CAN CHOOSE WHICH ONE WORKS THE BEST FOR YOU AND YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT.THE MINIMUM CONTRIBUTION TO PARTICIPATE IS $10 A PAYCHECK.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE MAXIMUM RIGHT NOW, DEPENDING ON YOUR AGE, COULD BE OVER $30,000.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE DEFERRED COMPENSATION PROGRAM, I WANNA ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.
START SAVING AND INVESTING FOR YOUR RETIREMENT ON YOUR OWN.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN START SMALL.
IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO DO MUCH, THAT'S OKAY AND YOU GET PAY INCREASES, YOU CAN INCREASE THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN.
I STARTED DOING $25 A PAYCHECK IN THE PRE-TAX 401K AND NOW I AM MAXING OUT MY 401K AND HAVING TO DO A 4 57 TO ACCOMMODATE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT I'M, I'M SAVING.
AND REASON I'M DOING THAT IS BECAUSE I'M GROWING SOCIAL SECURITY ON TOP OF MY SALARY.
IF I DON'T DO THAT, I'M GONNA PAY A BUNCH OF MONEY IN TAXES.
SO I'M PUTTING AS MUCH AWAY OF MY INCOME AS I POSSIBLY CAN TO KEEP MY TAXES FROM GROWING UP THAT SINCE, SINCE IN ADDITION TO MY SALARY, I'M GROWING SOCIAL SECURITY.
YOU NEED TO START WHETHER YOU ARE YEARS AWAY FROM RETIREMENT TO WHETHER YOU'RE CLOSE TO RETIREMENT, AS SOONER YOU GET STARTED SAVING ON YOUR OWN, THE BETTER OFF YOU ARE.
BUT IF YOU WANNA PUT YOURSELF IN THE BEST FINANCIAL POSITION WHEN YOU RETIRE, YOU WANT YOUR INCOME TO BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN YOUR OUTSTANDING OF LIVING.
WE HAVE TWO CLASSES OF MEMBERSHIP AND SO I'M SURE SOME OF YOU FALL AS CLASS TWO MEMBERS.
SOME OF YOU MAY BE CLASS THREE, UH, CLASS TWO, OR FOR PEOPLE WHO JOINED PRIOR TO JULY 1ST, 2012.
IF YOU JOINED THE SYSTEM ON OR AFTER JULY 1ST, 2012, YOU CONSIDER THE CLASS THREE MEMBERS.
AND THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU CAN RETIRE, HOW YOUR BENEFIT IS CALCULATED AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU BENEFIT FROM ANY ACCRUED ANNUAL LEAVE AND SICK LEAVE AT RETIREMENT.
IF YOUR CLASS THREE, YOUR ANY ANNUAL LEAVE YOU HAVE ON THE BOOKS WHEN YOU RETIRE, WILL NOT IMPACT, WILL NOT HELP YOUR RETIREMENT.
THOSE OF US WHO LAST DO ANY UNUSUAL SICK LEAVE AND VACATION CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR RETIREMENT CHECK.
LEMME TALK VERY QUICKLY ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT IMPACT YOU NOW WHILE YOU'RE WORKING AND THEN WE'LL TRANSITION TO RETIREMENT.
THE FIRST ONE IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DIE BEFORE YOU RETIRE? WE GET THESE QUESTIONS ALL THE TIME.
PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TAKING 9% OR 9.75 IF YOU ARE IN THE POLICE SYSTEM.
SO WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY IF I DIE? WELL, YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE MONEY WE TAKE OUTTA YOUR PAYCHECK BELONGS TO YOU.
WE, WE CREATE AN ACCOUNT FOR YOU AT THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM WHEN YOU JOIN AND YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE DEPOSITED IN THAT ACCOUNT AND THAT ACCOUNT EARNS YOUR GUARANTEE 4% INTEREST COMPOUNDED ANNUALLY.
SO WHATEVER'S IN THAT ACCOUNT BELONGS TO YOU.
SO IF YOU DIE BEFORE YOU ARE RETIRED, WE ARE NOT GOING TO KEEP YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
THAT MONEY DOES NOT BELONG TO US.
IT BELONGS TO, TO YOUR BENEFICIARIES.
THAT'S WHY WE ACQUIRE YOU TO NAME A BENEFICIARY OR BENEFICIARIES.
SO THE FIRST THING WE ARE GONNA OFFER THEM IS A REFUND OF EVERYTHING YOU CONTRIBUTED PLUS INTEREST.
YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT AMOUNT IS BY SIGNING UP FOR MEMBER ACCESS ONLINE OR WE CREATED A PORTAL THAT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO YOUR ACCOUNT TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE, HOW MUCH TIME YOU HAVE, WHO YOUR BENEFICIARIES ARE.
ALL THAT IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR YOU TO STAY ON TOP OF, UH, PARTICULARLY WHO YOUR BENEFICIARIES ARE BECAUSE WHEN YOU DIE, WE GONNA PAY THE PERSON LISTED ON YOUR ACCOUNT AS YOUR BENEFICIARY NO MATTER WHO THAT PERSON IS.
SO IF YOU WENT THROUGH A DIVORCE AND REMARRIED AND FORGOT TO UPDATE YOUR BENEFICIARY OF THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM AND YOU DIE, THAT REST OF YOUR DIVORCE IS DON'T GET TOO MONEY, OKAY? SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KEEP YOUR BENEFICIARY INFORMATION UP TO DATE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO FILL OUT A PAPER AS WE USED TO DO IN THE PAST.
YOU USED TO HAVE TO FILL OUT A FORM AND GET IT NOTARIZED.
NOW YOU CAN GO ON MEMBER ACCESS ONLINE AND UPDATE YOUR BENEFICIARY 24 7.
SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE BENEFICIARY AND YOU CAN NAME MORE THAN ONE OR UP TO DATE THAT THERE ARE THE PERSON YOU WANNA GET OR PEOPLE YOU WANT TO GET THE MONEY.
UM, IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE, THE BENEFIT IS ALWAYS SPLIT EQUALLY BETWEEN THEM.
NOW, ONCE YOU GET TO 15 YEARS OF SERVICE, OR IF YOU WORKED AND TOOK 15 YEARS INTO THE SYSTEM, OR IF YOU DIE AFTER YOU REACH
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AGE 60 OR AND YOU ARE VESTED, OR IF YOU DIE AS A POLICE OFFICER AND YOU REACH AGE 55 AND YOU HAVE NOT RETIRED, BUT YOU ARE VESTED, YOUR BENEFICIARY WILL BE GIVEN A DIFFERENT OPTION AS WELL.NOW, BEST THING IF YOU JOINED BEFORE JULY 1ST, 2012, YOU GOTTA WORK FIVE YEARS TO BE VESTED.
IF YOU JOINED SINCE JULY 1ST, 2012, IT'S NOW EIGHT YEARS AND YOU HAVE TO WORK AND PAY THE SYSTEM TO BE VESTED.
SO IF YOU DIE WITH 15 YEARS OR MORE AND YOU ARE VESTED OR YOU ARE AT LEAST 60 OR 55 DEPENDING ON THE SYSTEM YOU'RE IN, AND YOU ARE VESTED, WE WILL OFFER YOU BENEFICIARY TO WORK BETWEEN TAKING YOUR MONEY AND A LUMP SUM PAYMENT, WHICH IS THE FIRST OPTION THAT I TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS THE REFUND OF YOUR CONTRIBUTION PLUS INTEREST.
OR THEY CAN CHOOSE TO GET A MONTHLY BENEFIT INSTEAD.
AND THE CATCH IS, IT'S NOT A MONTHLY BENEFIT.
IT'S A MONTHLY BENEFIT FOR LIFE AND YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
WHAT WILL YOU BENEFICIARY? WHAT WHAT'S, WHAT'S THEIR BEST OPTION? TAKE A LUMP SUM PAYMENT OR CHOOSE A MONTHLY BENEFIT FOR LIFE.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I ASKED THAT QUESTION BACK WHEN I USED TO DO THESE SEMINARS IN PERSON, MOST PEOPLE WOULD SAY, WELL, I MUST HAVE BENEFIT FOR LIFE, OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
AND IN MOST CASES YOU WOULD BE CORRECT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.
HOWEVER, THE RIGHT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS IT DEPENDS.
IT DEPENDS ON YOUR BENEFICIARY LIFE EXPECTANCY.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT DEPENDS HOW MUCH LONGER YOU BENEFICIARY IS GONNA OUTLIVE YOU.
STATISTICALLY SPEAKING, WE CAN'T PREDICT WHEN ANYBODY'S GONNA DIE.
BUT YOU KNOW, BASED ON THEIR AGE AND THEIR HEALTH, HOW MUCH LONGER ARE THEY LIKELY TO LIVE AFTER YOU PASS AWAY? IF THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS FIVE YEARS OR MORE, THEN IT'S A NO BRAINER.
IF YOUR BENEFICIARY HAS AT LEAST A FIVE YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY AFTER YOU DIE, TAKING A MONTHLY BENEFIT FOR LIFE WOULD BE THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AGAIN, WE CAN'T, YOU ARE NOT GONNA BE AROUND TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO AND WE CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO DO.
THAT'S THE CHOICE THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
THE CHOICE YOU HAVE, THE ONLY CONTROL YOU HAVE IS WHO YOUR NAME IS YOUR BENEFICIARY.
BUT ONCE YOU NAMED THAT, THAT AT YOUR DEATH, THE PERSON'S GONNA MAKE THAT CHOICE.
NOW THAT'S DIFFERENT WHEN YOU RETIRE, WHEN EMPLOYED, THAT CHOICE BELONGS TO YOUR BENEFICIARY.
SO THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION YOU WANNA HAVE WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH MY SON WHEN I GOT TO 15 YEARS BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE MAKES THE RIGHT CHOICE BECAUSE I KNEW OVER HIS LIFETIME IF HE MAKES THE WRONG CHOICE, IT COULD COST HIM A LOT OF MONEY.
AND SO WHAT I SAID TO HIM, I SAID, IF I DIE, YOU GO TO RETIREMENT SYSTEM WHERE I WORK, THEY'RE GONNA OFFER YOU A CHECK FOR ALL THE MONEY I PUT IN THE SYSTEM.
I SAID, THAT'S GONNA BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I SAID, YOU CAN TAKE IT AND DO WHAT YOU WANT WITH IT.
IF YOU DO, I'LL COME BACK HOME TO GRAVE AND HAUL YOU.
I TOLD THEM THAT BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE WOULD GIVE UP OVER HIS LIFETIME ONCE A YEAR.
I CALCULATE THAT BENEFITS I WORKED WITH.
SO I HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE CALCULATORS.
SO I CALCULATED IF I DIED THAT YEAR, HOW MUCH MONEY HE WOULD GET BASED ON MY LAST CALCULATION.
IF HE OUTLIVED ME BY FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, HE'D GET MORE MONEY THAN I PUT IN THE LAST 36 YEARS.
BUT HE WOULD BE INSANE TO TAKE A LUMP SUM PAYMENT THAT'S GUARANTEED LIFETIME INCOME NO MATTER WHAT HE IS DOING.
AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOUR BENEFICIARY.
AND LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN NAME MORE THAN ONE AND THEY WILL SPLIT WHICHEVER OPTION YOU CHOOSE.
WHETHER THEY TAKE A REFUND OF CONTRIBUTIONS OR WHETHER THEY WANT A MONTHLY BENEFIT FOR LIFE, THEY WILL EACH GET AN EQUAL SHARE AND ONE OF 'EM DIES.
NOW A COUPLE OF POINTS, THEY ALL HAVE TO AGREE ON THE CHOICE.
YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE SAYING, I WANT A MONTHLY BENEFIT.
AND THE OTHER ONE SAY, I WANT A LUMP SUM PAYMENT.
IF THEY DO NOT AGREE, WE DO NOT PAY.
AND USUALLY WE FIND ONCE YOU TELL THEM ONCE, YOU TELL 'EM NOBODY YOU'RE GETTING ANY MONEY, BUT THEY DON'T AGREE, THEY ALWAYS AGREE.
THE SECOND THING IS YOU CANNOT PAY ANY ENTITY VERSUS A PERSON, A LIVING PERSON, A LIFETIME BENEFIT.
SO IF YOU BENEFICIARY, IF YOU ARE A STATE OR IF YOU BENEFICIARY A HUMANE SOCIETY OR YOUR CHURCH ONLY THE LUMP SUM OPTION IS AVAILABLE.
WE CANNOT PAY A LIFETIME BENEFIT TO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT GONNA DIE.
THEY WANNA BE SURE THAT YOU HAVE NAMED A LIVING PERSON OR PERSON THAT YOU BENEFICIARY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE A RELATIVE.
ANYBODY CAN BE YOUR BENEFICIARY.
UH, THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
NOW, IN, IN ADDITION TO THIS BENEFIT,
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IF YOU DIE WHILE EMPLOYED AND YOU'VE BEEN UNDER THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM FOR ONE YEAR OR MORE, WE WOULD PAY YOUR BENEFICIARY THE EQUIVALENT OF YOUR ANNUAL SALARY.THERE'S NO QUESTION THERE, THERE'S NO DECISION TO BE MADE.
THAT'S A GUARANTEED ONE TIME BENEFIT.
THE STATE WILL PAY TO YOUR BENEFICIARY AS LONG AS YOU'VE BEEN IN THE SYSTEM FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR.
NOW, IF YOU ARE IN THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM, YOU NEED TO CHECK WITH THE TOWN TO SEE, UH, IF THEY HAVE ADDED THE, THE POLICE OFFICER RETIREMENT SYSTEM, ACCIDENTAL DEATH PROGRAM.
WHAT THAT PROGRAM DOES, IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING I TALKED ABOUT, IF YOU'RE DIE IN THE LINE OF DUTY AND YOU'RE MARRIED, YOUR SPOUSE WILL GET 50% OF YOUR PAYCHECK FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFE OR HIS LIFE.
UH, IF YOU'RE NOT MARRIED AND THEN YOU ARE, YOU'LL HAVE KIDS OR IF YOU'RE SPOUSE IS DECEASED, BUT YOU HAVE KIDS WILL PAY TO YOUR CHILDREN UNTIL THEY TURN 18.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS OR ANY SPOUSE WILL PAY TO YOUR PARENTS UNTIL THEY DIE.
AND IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN AND WITH THE TOWN PROVIDES YOU WITH THIS COVERAGE BECAUSE THEY PAY FOR THIS, YOU DON'T.
SO YOU HAVE TO CHECK AND SEE IF THEY HAVE IT.
BUT BASICALLY YOUR CHILDREN WILL GET TO GO TO SCHOOL TO COLLEGE, UH, TUITION FREE IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEY RENT THAT YOU DIE IN A LINE OF DUTY AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DUE TO NEGLIGENCE ON YOUR OWN PART.
NOW, IF YOU BECOME DISABLED, AND IT'S DIFFERENT FOR SCRS THAN IT IS FOR THE POLICE SYSTEM.
YOU ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION IF YOU BECOME DISABLED NO LATER THAN 12 MONTHS FROM YOUR DATE OF TERMINATION.
NOW, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND YOU WAIT 12 MONTHS.
IF YOU BECOME DISABLED, GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THE APPLICATION AS SOON AS YOU CAN AND UH, WE CAN GET IT AND HOLD IT HERE TILL WE GET THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE NEED.
SO THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS SHOULD BE SUBMITTING A DISABILITY RETIREMENT APPLICATION THROUGH THE SOUTH CAROLINA RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
NOW YOU DO HAVE TO BE VESTED, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE WORKED AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OF YOUR CLASS, TWO OR EIGHT YEARS OF YOUR CLASS THREE, THE ONLY TIME VESTING IS WAIVED.
IF YOU GET INJURED ON THE JOB AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE FIVE OR EIGHT YEARS, THEN IF YOUR DISABILITY IS A RESULT OF AN ON THE JOB INJURY, THEN WE DO AWAY WITH ARRESTING REQUIREMENT.
NOW FOR SCRS TO GET STATE RETIREMENT DISABILITY, YOU HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION FIRST.
SO ONCE YOU APPLY WITH US, YOU GO DOWN TO THE SOCIAL SECURITY OFFICE AND APPLY FOR SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY.
IF THEY APPROVE YOU, YOU JUST BRING US A LETTER FROM THEM CALLED AN AWARDS LETTER SHOWING YOU'VE BEEN APPROVED AND WHAT DATE THEY STARTING YOUR DISABILITY.
AND WE WILL APPROVE YOU AS WELL.
AND WE WILL PAY YOU A BENEFIT BASED ON THE, THEIR, UH, THE DATE OF WHAT THEY CALL THE ONSET DATE, WHICH MEANS THE DATE THEY DETERMINE THAT'S WHEN YOUR DISABILITY STARTED.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT NOT TO WAIT ON THEM TO APPROVE YOU TO APPLY WITHOUT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT POINT MADE ON THE SCREEN.
DON'T WAIT FOR APPROVAL FROM SOCIAL SECURITY TO APPLY WITH US BECAUSE SOCIAL SECURITY, UNLESS YOU'RE TERMIN, THEY'RE DISABLED, THEY'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE YOU IN A YEAR.
SO IF YOU WAIT ON THEM TO APPROVE YOU BEFORE YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO US, YOU'RE GONNA BE OUTSIDE THAT 12 MONTH WINDOW.
IF YOU MISS THAT 12 MONTH WINDOW, YOU ARE OUT OF LUCK.
SO ALWAYS APPLY WITH US FIRST BEFORE YOU APPLY WITH THEM.
UH, THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
AND IF, BUT BY ANY CHANCE YOU ARE LIKE ME WHERE YOU'RE EITHER OLD ENOUGH OR YOU HAVE ENOUGH YEARS WHERE YOU CAN RETIRE REGARDLESS OF DISABILITY.
I DON'T HAVE TO BE DISABLED TO RETIRE.
I'VE EARNED A SERVICE RETIREMENT BY THE, THE NUMBER OF YEARS I WORKED AND BASED ON MY AGE, I CAN RETIRE ANYTIME I WANT.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE WITH YOU, WHAT WE RECOMMEND YOU DO, YOU APPLY FOR A SERVICE RETIREMENT APPLICATION.
UH, UH, I MEAN YOU APPLY FOR SERVICE RETIREMENT BY FILLING THE SERVICE RETIREMENT APPLICATION BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY EARNED THAT VALUABLE.
AND YOU ALSO AT THE SAME TIME SIMULTANEOUSLY, YOU SUBMIT A DISABILITY RETIREMENT APP, YOU SUBMIT BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
WE CAN START PAYING YOU YOUR SERVICE, THE RETIREMENT BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY EARNED THAT.
AND WE WAIT ON SOCIAL SECURITY TO APPROVE YOU.
IF SOCIAL SECURITY APPROVES YOU.
WE ARE GOING TO COMPARE BOTH BENEFITS TO SEE WHETHER THE STATE RETIREMENT DIS STABILITY RETIREMENT IS BETTER THAN THE SERVICE RETIREMENT.
OR IS THE SERVICE RETIREMENT BETTER THAN THE STABILITY? WHICHEVER
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ONE WORKS IN YOUR FAVOR, WHICHEVER ONE GIVES YOU MORE BENEFITS, THAT'S THE ONE WE WILL, WE WILL PAY YOU.IF YOU ARE IN THE POLICE OFFICER'S RETIREMENT SYSTEM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO APPLY WITH SOCIAL SECURITY.
ALTHOUGH IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULDN'T, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TOTALLY DISABLED, BY ALL MEANS YOU SHOULD.
THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM DISABILITY WITH THE STATE IS WHAT WE CALL AN OCCUPATIONAL DISABILITY.
BUT THAT MEANS IF YOU HAVE A CONDITION, WHETHER IT'S MEDICAL OR ME, OR OR OR MENTAL, PHYSICAL OR MENTAL, IF, IF IT KEEPS YOU FROM DOING YOUR JOB.
SO WHATEVER CONDITION YOU HAVE, IT PREVENTS YOU FROM DOING WHATEVER YOU ARE BEING PAID TO DO.
THEN WHEN YOU ARE ARRESTED, WE CONSIDER YOU DISABLED.
SO YOU WOULD SUBMIT A DISABILITY APPLICATION.
WE'RE GONNA GET YOUR MEDICAL RECORDS.
WE, WE ARE GOING GET YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION AND OUR MEDICAL REVIEW BOARD AND OUR SOCIAL SECURITY IS GOING TO LOOK AT YOUR DIAGNOSIS.
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ON THE ONE.ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, AND THEN THREE ROWS OF 15 ARE BEING TOO CLOSE.
PEOPLE SIT THERE THAT ARE WAITING TO GET UP WHAT'S BACK THERE.
YEAH, BUT THE PODIUM IS ALMOST IN LINE NOT COMING THROUGH THOUGH.
YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN? I MIGHT STAND UP AND HAVE TO STEP BACK TO GET TO THAT SIDE OF THE PODIUM.
YOU CAN MOVE THEM OVER THAT WAY SOME MORE.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THEY'RE TOO FAR UP, LIKE THEY NEED TO COME BACK.
WELL THE ONLY THING OKAY, BRING BACK.
I DIDN'T WANT THAT ONE TO GO ANY FURTHER UP.
WELL COULDN'T IT GO BACK? CAN YOU SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT? I'M GONNA GET LITTLE XS ON THE FLOOR.
SO WE KNOW WHERE THEY MM-HMM
UM, ANYWAY, SO THAT'S SEVEN 15 AND 15 IS 30, 37, 38, 39, 4.
SO I COULD ACTUALLY ALMOST DOUBLE THE CHAIR CAPACITY.
WE NEED TO GET ANOTHER ROW IF WE PUSH THESE UP A LITTLE SOONER.
I, WELL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TAKING THE CHAIRS AND PUTTING 'EM IN THEIR OFFICES AT ONE POINT THERE WERE FOUR ROWS ON EACH SIDE.
'CAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM HERE TO GET ONE MORE ROW.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE PROJECTOR? SOMETHING HAPPENED TO IT.
MS. CINDY, DO YOU WANT ME TO LEAVE THE CAR THERE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT PARKING SPOT? THERE WAS NOWHERE ELSE.
THAT'S THE DISABLED SPOT THAT CAN BE MOVED.
BUT SOMEBODY WILL WILL SAY SOMETHING.
OH, THEY HAVE FIREHOUSES ALWAYS GOOD TO ME.
ESSENTIALLY THOSE PICKLES THAT WE RAN OUT OF QUICKLY.
I ASKED HER IF SHE HAD TO ORDER 'EM.
SHE SAID NO, THEY CAME WITH IT.
THEY GIVE THEM, YEAH, THEY GIVE 'EM TO YOU.
SO ALL THESE TWO SANDWICHES LEFT.
I THOUGHT, OH GOD, WE'RE GONNA RUN OUT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TOO.
WAS THAT BROWN'S LAPTOP UP THERE OR JAMES? MUST BE JAMES DID YOU WANNA ADD ANOTHER ROOM OR NO? NO, WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S FINE.
I'M GONNA GET, I'LL TALK TO JOSH TOMORROW IN OUR MEETING AND SEE IF HE WANTS ME TO ORDER SOME MORE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THESE CHAIRS ARE ORDER MORE CHAIRS.
YEAH, BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE SITTING OVER THERE.
I DON'T WANT TAKE 'EM OFF THE SIDE.
EMPLOYEES SIT OVER THERE SO YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T NEED ABOUT WHAT, 12 CHAIRS? WELL WE PUT ONE MORE
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ROW.WE COULD MAKE THAT A FULL ROW.
THEY COME SIX TO A BOX AND WE COULD DO THAT.
SO THAT TV MAYBE CAN IT BE MOVE? DO WE NEED ANOTHER PLACE TO UM, I DUNNO.
WE TALKED TO JAMES ABOUT IT BEFORE AND IT'S BASICALLY WHERE IT IS.
IT'S THE ONLY PLACE HE CAN GO.
WHAT'S OUR NEXT LUNCH AND LEARN PEOPLE CAN'T, NOTHING TO DO.
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
WE REALLY CAN'T BRING, WE REALLY DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY MORE CHAIRS HERE.
'CAUSE EVEN WITH THIS SPACE, I'VE STILL WATCHED PEOPLE DUCK DOWN.
SO IF WE PUT AN EXTRA ROW, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE IN THERE SOMEWHERE.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT WAS THAT ONE.
THEN WE HAD, I THINK AN EXTRA ROW CAN FIT ON THAT SIDE.
IF WE MOVE THAT UP SOME, LIKE IF WE LINE THAT ROW WITH THIS THREE CHAIRS OVER HERE, WE LINE THE ROADS, BUT OH, IT'S A TABLE RIGHT THERE.
SO I NOTICED THE WAY THE LIGHTS ARE SHINING ON THESE CHAIRS.
WELL LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUT ANOTHER ROAD ON THERE.
WE'LL JUST TAKE SOME OF THESE CHAIRS, SEE HOW IT LOOKS.
AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA CHAIRS IN HERE.
ALRIGHT, SO HOW, OKAY, SO YOU'RE SITTING HERE, HOW MUCH ROOM DOES A PERSON NEED TO BE ABLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE TO GET AROUND? THAT'S GOOD FOR ME.
BUT THAT'S, THAT GAP IS BIGGER THAN THIS.
NO, THIS I'M, I'M GOING BRING IT BACK.
IT'S NOT HOW FAR TO BRING IT BACK.
I'M SAYING HOW FAR WERE Y'ALL GOING SIT THERE.
WHY? LET ME PUSH THIS CHAIR BACK.
TELL US WHAT YOU THINK COMFORTABLE WISE.
HOW CLOSE CAN YOU BRING THAT CHAIR TO WHERE SOMEBODY NEEDED TO GET PAST YOU? YEAH, THAT'S IT.
NO WE IS IT GOOD OR NOT? WELL AGAIN, WHEN I GO TO CONCERTS AND STUFF, I ALWAYS SIT ON THE END, SO YEAH, I DO.
EVEN AT THE MOVIE THEATER, I'D RATHER SIT ON THE END SOMETHING ELSE.
I'D RATHER SIT ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK.
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE BEHIND MY HEAD COUGHING AND GOING ON UGH.
COUGHING AND SNEEZING AND, UGH.
IS THAT ABOUT THE SAME NOW? THIS IS GOOD.
I WOULD FEEL OKAY WITH SOMEBODY PASSING ME THROUGH THERE.
LET'S DO THE SAME THING OVER THERE.
WE CAN'T ALL HAVE YOUR WAITING.
DID I? YEAH, THEY NEED TO BE OVER HERE A LITTLE MORE.
WELL IT'S NOT FEEDING INTO THAT SO.
WAS IT? OH YEAH, WHEN MR. SMITH WAS DOING IT? YEAH.
IS THIS ONE? I THOUGHT IT WAS FINE.
IT'S LOT WORK TO GO THROUGH TO GET IT CHANGED OVER.
YEAH, WE CAN JUST COME HERE AND TAKE YOU OUT THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S IS THAT AT, I LIKE TO VISIT WHAT? WHATEVER THIS PICTURE IS.
THIS ONE HERE IS THIS ONE HERE.
I'M NOT GONNA BE QUITE THE SAME.
HERE GOES ALL THE WAY BACK BECAUSE THEY GOT THAT TABLE TO GET UP THERE.
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I MAY HAVE TO ORDER.IS THAT THE OLD PROJECTOR STILL OVER HERE? OR, UM, I KNOW LY CLEANED OUT THAT ROOM SO I DON'T THINK IT'S OVER HERE.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S HERE.
I DIDN'T TOSS ANYTHING ON YOURSELF.
ANYTHING IN YOUR, I'M PRETTY SURE I DIDN'T DO IT.
LOOKING FOR, LOOK AT THOSE BOXES IN THERE BY COPY JEALOUS ONE.
PLUG THIS INTO MY LAPTOP AND THEN WE SHOULD SEE THE LAPTOP BACK THERE ON THAT SCREEN BACK THERE.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT'S STILL THAT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE THIS IS THE HERE ALMOST.
WELL THIS IS, THIS IS STRAIGHT.
IT LOOK MORE NORMAL NOW LIKE IT USED TO BE.
SO YOU GOT HDMI OUT HERE? I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE DID WITH THOSE GOING TO THE PROJECTOR OR ACTUALLY NO, YOU GOT GOING.
WAIT, WHAT? I, WE HAVE A MEETING IN THE MEETING? NO, THEY GOT ONE MONDAY.
MY I MEETING IS STILL OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
THEY GOT TWO FEED TO THEY COAT THIS ROBERT'S ROOM NOTICE SOMETHING.
THAT CAME FROM THAT CAME FROM THE MAYOR.
DID WE EVER WIPE THIS COUNTER TOP DOWN? SHE, I SEE HER WIPING IT DOWN WITH A, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WIPES IT WITH A RA, A WARM, YOU KNOW HOW SHE DOES IT? YEAH.
IT WAS ONLY ONE TWOSIE ROLL BACK THERE.
I NEED TO TAKE MY NOTEPADS BACK.
HUH? WHO TOOK A NOTEPAD ON THE TABLE HERE? I DID.
OH, I'M PUT 'EM BACK IN THE, UM, THERE WERE SOME MORE SOMEWHERE.
I HAVE A BUNCH OF 'EM JUST SO THEY CAN WRITE THEIR QUESTIONS SO WE CAN ASK THEM.
IT'S JUST THE ONE PLUGGING IN MY LAPTOP RIGHT NOW.
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DAMN TABLES ARE WOBBLY.THOSE ARE, THESE ARE THE OLDER ONES HEAVY AS HECK TO GET THE MIC.
WE DIDN'T NEED MIC, WE DIDN'T NEED, BUT EVERYTHING IS PLUGGED.
THERE'S JUST MY CABLE INFORMATION AND WHERE IT GOES.
I DON'T, I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE TODAY.
I JUST MEAN LIKE, IS IT ABOUT EVERYTHING? ALL OF I KNOW, MAN.
SO WE GOT NO PROJECTOR IN HERE.
RIGHT? AND YOU THINK IT'S A PROJECTOR? POSSIBLY.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SEE IF WE HAD THE OLD PROJECTOR.
WELL NOW WE, WE DO HAVE THE ONE THAT WE USE FOR MOBILE STUFF THAT'S IN THE CLOSET IN THE OFFICE.
NO, THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY MOVED STUFF WHERE? GIMME A SECOND.
WHERE'D YOU GUYS SAY YOU MOVED STUFF FROM? THERE'S TWO BOXES RIGHT THERE THAT'S GOT A BUNCH OF STUFF IN IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE IN THERE.
I MEAN I DIDN'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY.
WHATCHA LOOKING FOR? DIDN'T SEE.
BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S THAT I, YOU, YOU PRETTY SURE BECAUSE EVERYTHING SHOULD BE GOING THROUGH THAT CRESTRON, RIGHT? NO SIGNAL DETECTED.
YEAH, THIS IS THE CRESTRON THAT SHOULD BE FEEDING FROM THAT.
IT IS NOT DETECTING YOUR FEED.
AND THIS CRESTRON IS PLUGGED IN VIA ETHERNET TO THE OTHER SIDE SIDE.
SO IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S DISCONNECTED
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OVER GO.BUT THAT THING'S SO DAMN TIGHT.
I MEAN YOU GOT NO ROOM TO DO ANYTHING WITH.
UM, I MEAN WE COULD LOOK BEHIND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, YESTERDAY THERE WAS A LITTLE WARM IN THERE TOO, BY THE WAY.
DIDN'T GRANICUS GIVE A DIAGRAM OF ALL THE UH, THE VISUAL STUFF? BECAUSE CLARK DOES THE AUDIO RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY GAVE US A DIAGRAM OF WHAT'S PLUGGED IN, WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLUGGED INTO WHAT BACK THERE.
THEN WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT OR WE CAN CALL 'EM AND SAY, HEY, OUR LAPTOP FEE FROM THE CRESTRON.
NO, REMEMBER WHEN WE BROUGHT SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP BEFORE JOEY WAS LIKE, WE NEED TO COME DOWN THERE AND DO IT BECAUSE OF SPECIAL IS SPECIAL BACK.
THAT WAS THE DAC 70, BUT I REPLACED THAT DAC 70.
AND I WAS LIKE, NO, JUST SEND ME THE D 70.
SO I'M SURE HE'S GONNA SAY WELL ABOVE THAT S**T.
IF WE WOULD'VE DONE THE THING.
IF THEY WOULD'VE DONE THE WHAT IF THEY WOULD'VE PUT THE, UM, NEW PROJECTOR IN THERE, WHICH REMEMBER HE WANTED NO, HE'S FROM CLARK POWELL.
RIGHT? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT GRANICUS.
I STILL DON'T THINK GRANICUS HAS SOMETHING TO, TO DO WITH THIS SETUP THOUGH.
IT WAS THE DAK 70 TO GRANICUS.
THEY HAD TO SEND US TO DAK 70.
BUT THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY THING FROM, AND THE, AND THE, UM, CAMERAS AND THE WHOLE RACK AND THE RACK, BUT THAT'S GOT ALL THE HDMI FEES TO IT.
ALL BUT I'M JUST REMEMBERING CLARK POWELL IS.
THIS HAS GOT AUDIO ASSOCIATED TO IT.
YEAH, I KNOW BECAUSE IT HAS THE, UM, VOLUME STUFF IN IT.