* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:04:23] GOOD AFTERNOON. I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING OF THE HARVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER MR. ZILLOW. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR BEING SOME MEMBERS ALL SHOWING UP IN THE, ON YOUR FATHER, SHOWING UP, AND GIVE US STRENGTH TODAY TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NOT WHAT'S GOOD, BUT WHAT'S BEST FOR AMEN NATION [00:05:01] UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, FIRST ITEM, APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA IS ANY, ANY THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO ADD OR MOVE AROUND IN THIS? ALRIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AGENDA'S APPROVED. UH, NOW TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA TODAY. SO, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. SOLD. YEP. OLD BUSINESS APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ANY COMMENTS OR CHANGES? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. MOTION CARRIES NEW BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL FOR PARCEL OH 2 9 0 0 0 4 0 1 1 LOCATED AT DEERFIELD ROAD. IT'S APPROXIMATELY A 19 ACRE PARCEL WHO'S OFTEN TODAY. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. UH, JOE DUFFY, SENIOR PLANNER, UH, WITH THE CITY'S PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. UM, I'M HERE, UH, THIS AFTERNOON TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT ON DEERFIELD ROAD. UM, THIS PARCEL IS, UM, WELL, THE APPLICATION IS COMING FROM THE OUTDOOR SERVICES COMPANY. UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT WE CHANGED THE ZONING FROM MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL. AND JUST WANT TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME BACKGROUND ON THE PARCEL AND, UH, WHAT THAT PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE ENTAILS. UM, SO HERE IS THE PARCEL, KIND OF A BROADER, UM, FURTHER OUT VIEW. YOU CAN SEE DOWNTOWN HARDY VILLE KIND OF TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN. UM, AND, UH, THE PARCEL IN QUESTION IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW. THIS IS A LITTLE CLOSER IN, YOU CAN SEE THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE CLEARLY. UM, THE PARCEL ITSELF IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, AND HERE ARE SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, UM, LOOKING NORTH, UH, ALONGSIDE DEERFIELD ROAD. UM, THE PARCEL FRONTAGE ON DEERFIELD IS ROUGHLY EIGHT TO 900 FEET LONG. UM, IT VIRTUALLY LOOKS, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO THIS THROUGHOUT THAT DURATION. AND THIS IS LOOKING STRAIGHT AT THE PARCEL FROM THE SHOULDER OF DEERFIELD ROAD. ANOTHER SHOT A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN. UM, SHOWING THAT UTILITY TIE IN, UM, THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, UM, LOOKS VERY SIMILAR AND LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS DOWNTOWN, UH, FROM THE PROPERTY, YOU DON'T HAVE A, A VIEW OF THE, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, UM, THE ADJACENT PROPERTY AS IN WHERE THAT VEHICLE IS DEPARTING? NO, AS WHERE, UM, HANG ON, IT'S JENNY, JENNY GREEN. I GET IT. JENNY GREEN OR SOMETHING? UH, MAGNOLIA CIRCLE. MAGNOLIA CIRCLE. I, I DID NOT INCLUDE A PHOTO OF THAT IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION. UH, BUT IT IS A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. OH, IT'S RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PARCEL. IT IT IS ADJACENT TO THE PARCEL. OKAY. IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO HAVE ANYWAY. ALRIGHT. UM, YES. SO THE, THE PROPERTIES, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CURRENT PARCEL IS, UH, IT WAS, IS CURRENTLY ZONED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL. UM, IT DOES HAVE OTHER MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL LEASE ZONED PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE DEVELOPED, UM, ADJACENT AS WAS MENTIONED. UM, AND, UH, ALSO HAS LIMITED INDUSTRIAL NEARBY IN THE VICINITY, UH, ALONG STEINY ROAD AND ON DEERFIELD ROAD. OKAY. SO QUESTION THE, THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE PARCEL OF ALI FAMILY? CORRECT. OKAY. THEY, THEY ARE DEVELOPED, UM, MUCH OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU DO NOT SEE, [00:10:01] UM, DESIGNATED WITH A ZONING COLOR IS UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY. UM, THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET IS AN UNDEVELOPED, UH, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AT THIS TIME. GO AHEAD. MAY I ADD SOMETHING? SURE. AND, AND I'M ONLY DOING THIS 'CAUSE OF MR. TALBOT'S QUESTIONS, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE, UM, THAT, UM, AND I HADN'T EVEN HAD A CHANCE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JOE, BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA JUMP IN. WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU IN A LONG TIME. I KNOW. UM, I WANTED TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON, ON DEERFIELD VILLAGE, WHICH IS TO MAGNOLIA CIRCLE AND JENNY GREEN, WHICH IS OKAY, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. UM, THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED TWO SISTERS DEVELOPMENT. IT WAS THE NUNS IN TOWN, AND THEY HAD SOME OTHER THING, I THINK MR. ILLA MIGHT REMEMBER THIS. UM, IT WAS TO BE A LIVE WORK COMMUNITY, UM, THAT WE WANTED THE INDUSTRIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY CONTIGUOUS TO EACH OTHER TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS. THEY CAN POTENTIALLY HAVE JOBS. AND SO THAT WAS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THIS. SO, UM, WE WANNA GIVE YOU THAT BACKGROUND FIRST AND WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ODD THING TO HAVE. OOPS, EXCUSE ME, TO HAVE LIMITED INDUSTRIAL AND MULTIFAMILY THIS CLOSE TOGETHER. BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT BACKGROUND. THIS WAS, HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, UM, BASED ON WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY DONE FOR THE TWO SISTERS PROJECT. THANK YOU. SORRY, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION. . UM, AND TO, TO THAT END, THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UM, IS IDENTIFIED, UM, AS INTENDED TO BE DEVELOPED AND RESERVED FOR MEDIUM TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES. UM, THE ZONE IS GENERALLY USED TO BUFFER SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT FROM MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL AREAS, UH, USING DIFFERENT TYPES OF DWELLING UNITS AND SHALL BE LOCATED NEAR COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND SERVICES. THE PROPOSED REZONING TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL, UM, WOULD, UH, INVOLVE THE NEW DESIGNATION IF APPROVED, UH, TO BE INTENDED TO PROVIDE AREAS FOR LIMITED INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES, WHICH ARE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY OBJECTIONABLE IN TERMS OF NOISE, ODOR, FUMES, ET CETERA, TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. THE DISTRICT DOES ENCOURAGE COMPATIBILITY AMONG SIMILAR LIMITED INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AND STRIVES TO PROTECT AND RESERVE UNDEVELOPED AREAS WHICH MAY BE SUITABLE FOR SUCH USES. IT DOES DISCOURAGE, UH, ENCROACHMENT OF DIFFERENT INCOMPATIBLE USES AND PROHIBITS MANUFACTURED HOMES AS WELL AS OTHER RESIDENTIAL. SO IN LOOKING AT THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WE, WE LOOKED BACK TO, UH, BOTH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE ELEMENTS. UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, ELEMENT STATES THAT, UM, THE CITY'S PLAN IS TO MAINTAIN A STRONG ECONOMY BY CREATING AND RETAINING DESIRABLE JOBS. A BALANCED, HEALTHY ECONOMY IS ESSENTIAL FOR COMMUNITY WELLBEING. GROWTH IN POPULATION INCREASES THE DEMAND FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES AS WELL AS JOB OPPORTUNITIES. AND LOOKING AT THE LAND USE ELEMENT, UH, OUR PLAN IS ALSO, UH, SUGGESTS WE RESPECT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND TRADITIONAL LIFESTYLES WHILE ALLOWING FOR RESPONSIBLE GROWTH AND QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. JUST REVIEW OF THE PROCESS, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, IS ASKED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OR DENIAL BY, UH, HARDY V CITY COUNCIL. UM, AND AT WHICH POINT, IF APPROVED, AFTER TWO READINGS, UH, THAT WOULD COME BACK TO THE STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE PROCESS FOR EVALUATION AND EVENTUAL ISSUING OF A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THROUGH THE STANDARD PROCESS. AND I HAD ANOTHER SLIDE ON THERE, BUT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WAS TO, UM, TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT AS PRESENTED, UM, BASED ON THE COMPONENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE, UH, PLAN. AND I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED REZONING. UM, HAPPY TO INVITE THEM UP IF YOU'D LIKE. ALL RIGHT, RICK, WHY DON'T WE START WITH YOU, MIKE. MY QUESTIONS WOULD BE, UH, TO THE NORTH AND ESPECIALLY TO THE SOUTH, WHAT KIND OF BUFFER HAVE WE GOT, UM, BETWEEN THE RESIDENCIES? [00:15:01] IT WOULD BE UNDER THE LIMITED INDUSTRIAL. WELL, REAL QUICK, DO YOU WANNA INTRODUCE YOURSELF, ANTHONY, WHILE I LOOK OUT? GENTLEMEN? SORRY, GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS, UH, ANTHONY SEMINAR AND I OWN OUTDOOR SERVICES COMPANY. HOW YOU GUYS DOING? FANTASTIC. GOOD MORNING. SORRY. OOPS, HOLD UP THERE. SO, LIMITED INDUSTRIAL, UM, SETBACKS. THE FRONT'S 50, THE SIDES ARE 25 AND THE REAR IS 35. SO ON THOSE SIDES WITH THE, SORRY, WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE 25, OUR BUFFER REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE THAT IF ANYTHING ABUTS A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, NOT, NOT SEPARATED BY A STREET RIGHT AWAY. UM, THEY HAVE TO DO ADDITIONAL BARRIERS, NATURAL AND OR FENCING COMBINATIONS. SO THAT IS WRITTEN INTO OUR CODE. SO THERE WILL BE, WE WILL LOOK AT THEIR PARTICULAR SITE DESIGN AND SEE WHAT POTENTIAL IMPACTS THERE ARE AND MITIGATE APPROPRIATELY. SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC NUMBER, LIKE 50 FEET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, IT'S, THE BASE NUMBER IS 25, BUT STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE CAN REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, THIS IS A STRAIGHT REZONING, SO YOU CAN'T CONDITION IT ON THAT, BUT IT IS IN THE CODE. AND AT THE SOUTH, AT THE SOUTH IS THERE IN THE YELLOW LINE, IS THERE A ROAD, UH, SO AT THATCHER ROAD, DOES, DOES THAT RUN PARALLEL TO THE PROPERTY LINE? IT IT DOES, YEAH. IT GOES, UH, EAST TO WEST, UH, PERPENDICULAR TO DEERFIELD TO THE, UH, REAR OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE, THE HOMES AND THIS PROJECT. OKAY. YES, SIR. UM, MR. SEMINAR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOUR COMPANY DOES AND YES. YES, SIR. AGAIN, UM, ANTHONY SEMINAR. SO MY COMPANY WE SERVICE OUR LARGEST CLIENTS ARE NATIONAL HOME BUILDERS AND SOME REALLY GOOD LOCAL ONES LIKE THE FARINO GROUP. UM, ROGERS VERY ROGERS GONNA BE HOPEFULLY HELPING ME HAND IN HAND IN THIS. UM, WE SERVICE THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA, PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE STATE MINUS OF THE ATLANTA MARKET. UM, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE BASED RIGHT NOW OUTTA BEAUFORT COUNTY. UM, WE HAVE SOME LOTS THAT ARE SPREAD OUT IN, IN RIDGELAND, UH, AND IN BEAUFORT COUNTY. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ENCOMPASS EVERYTHING INTO ONE RIGHT NOW BETWEEN EMPLOYEES AND CONTRACT LABOR. WE HAVE OVER 175 WITH THIS PURCHASE HERE, WITH THIS, WITH Y'ALL ALLOWING US TO BE ABLE TO RUN OUR PLACE OF BUSINESS OUT OF HERE IMMEDIATELY WOULD OPEN UP 25 JOBS THE DAY THAT WE, UM, GET A CO FROM THE CITY OF HARVILLE. UM, OUR GROWTH IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS HAS DOUBLED EVERY SINGLE YEAR. OUR MARKET HAS GOTTEN A LOT LARGER. WE ARE ANTICIPATING IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS HAVE OVER 200 MORE JOBS OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS BY BEING ABLE TO OPERATE OUT OF A 19 ACRE SITE. IT ALLOWS, IT ALLOWS GROWTH FOR US, IT ALLOWS GROWTH IN THE OFFICE AND ALLOWS US TO KEEP THAT COST NOT OVER $3,000 A, A MONTH TO RENT A, YOU KNOW, THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT OFFICE. SO YOUR PLAN IS TO CONSOLIDATE ALL YOUR OPERATIONS ONTO THIS SITE? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AS YOUR CORPORATE, AS WELL AS AS YOUR SERVICE? YES, SIR. WE, WE WOULD RUN EVERYTHING OUT OF HERE. WE STILL HAVE SMALL SATELLITE OFFICES IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS, BUT THE BLUNT OF IT WOULD COME OUT OF HERE. WE, WE, WE RUN A CENTRAL SCHEDULE AND SO EVERYTHING COMES OUT OF HERE, ALL OF OUR SUPPORT AND 90% OF OUR LABOR COMES OUT OF HERE. RICK, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UM, I'M GOOD. YEAH. UM, I, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, PUTTING A LIMITED INDUSTRIAL ZONE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. UH, ALL THE AREAS AROUND IT AS WELL AS THIS, UH, PLOT ITSELF HAVE BEEN, UH, ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL. AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL BEGIN BY SAYING, I, I THOUGHT THAT BRIANNA EXPRESSED IT VERY WELL WHEN SHE SAID IT'S ODD. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PLAN. UM, I'M, I'M WONDERING, AND, AND THIS WOULD BE TO STAFF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UM, UN UNDER THIS KIND OF, UH, [00:20:01] ZONING THAT WE WANTED TO, WE, WE WANT TO KEEP, UM, USES THAT ARE NOT COMMENSURATE WITH THE, WITH THE OTHER, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AWAY FROM THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDER THIS ZONING, I, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WOULD INCLUDE, UH, UTILITY FACILITIES LIKE GAS DISTRIBUTION FACILITIES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF UTILITY FACILITY OR DRY CLEANING OR THOSE SORTS OF THINGS, WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, WHICH ARE THINGS THAT I, I WOULD NOT NORMALLY THINK WE WOULD WANNA LOCATE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO ALL THAT PURPLE IS ALREADY LIMITED INDUSTRIAL CAN YEAH, NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT ADJACENT TO THE, WELL, I GUESS MAYBE A LITTLE, YEAH. LITTLE PIECE OF IT. THAT, THAT PIECE IN THE YEAH, BUT THAT PIECE IN THE COUNTY THAT'S NOT IN THE CITY IS ALSO USED FOR THE SIMILAR, SIMILAR USES. WELL, I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. NO. SO ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE PLAN ON, ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THREE 20 ON, ON, ON YOUR CONCERNS. UH, FIRST I WANNA TALK ABOUT, UM, WHICH WE DON'T SEE ON HERE AND WHAT WE'RE NOT SEEING, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS IS STRAIGHT SONIC MM-HMM . THAT IS, IT PRETTY MUCH SITS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A WETLAND. UM, AND, AND, UM, I KNOW FROM PUBLIC WORKS HAVING TO GO OUT, UM, THAT THAT AREA NEXT TO JENNY GREEN APARTMENTS IS, UM, VERY WET. 'CAUSE THE BEAVER, THE BEAVER LIKES TO BUILD DAMS THERE AND WE'VE HAD TO GO OUT AND CLEAN IT. SO NOT THAT THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, BUT IT IS PROTECTED. UM, WE HAD ORIGINALLY WANTED A CONNECTION THERE. IT'S NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WETLAND ISSUE. SO THERE'S NOT A CONNECTION FROM THE, THE TWO RESIDENTIAL. SO IT, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THE SITE IN PARTICULAR AND WHY, UM, STAFF IS SUPPORTING IT AND WHY WE THINK IT IS A GOOD PLAN. WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAID CONNECTION, I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU MEANT, UM, ORIGINALLY, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT ON THIS MAP, MAYBE YOU CAN SEE IT ON, IS THERE ANOTHER MAP? OOPS, SORRY, THERE ORDER OF YOU HAD AN AERIAL VIEW TOWARDS THE BEGINNING. SORRY, JUST ONE SECOND SIR. WANNA, UM, THEY LIKE TO CALL ME THE HISTORIAN AROUND HERE, UM, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE SO LONG. SO, UM, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF MY HISTORY. I'M, I'M, I'M BRINGING BACK FOR YOU , UM, THIS ROAD HERE IN, IN DEERFIELD VILLAGE WAS GOING TO CONNECT IT. THIS WAS GONNA BE MORE MULTIFAMILY AND THEN THEY WERE GONNA GOING TO CONNECT TO JENNY GREEN. ORIGINALLY WE WANTED IT FOR CONNECTIVITY, WE WANTED IT FOR, UM, POLICE FIRE PROTECTION, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS ON THIS, ON THIS LOT. SO, UM, ALRIGHT. SO IS THERE A WETLAND BUFFER THEN UP IN HERE? UM, YES. UH, IF I, NO, THERE'S NOT ON THAT SIDE. NO MA'AM. HOW IF I MET YEP. I, HOW DO YOU POINT WITH THAT THING? YEP. IS THE GREEN BUTTON RIGHT THERE? OKAY, LET'S SEE IF MY HAND'S STEADY. MINE'S NOT THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, GENTLEMEN. WE, WE WERE GONNA, WE WERE GONNA LEAVE. THIS IS WHAT IT ALL, THIS IS ALL GONNA STAY. THE COST OF GOING IN THERE AND CLEARING ALL THAT WOULD, DOESN'T BENEFIT THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE WOULD GET WITH THE DEERFIELD ROAD BUFFER BACK. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO, WE WANT TO WORK ONE IN ONE. I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE FUTURE EMPLOYEES, FUTURE OWNERS. WE'RE TRYING TO BECOME AN EMPLOYEE OWNED COMPANY. SO WE WOULD, WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY, WE WANT TO BE ONE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE PUT CONCRETE DOWN, BUT THEN WE ALSO COME BACK AND DO ALL YOUR LANDSCAPING AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF COMPANY. SO MAG CIRCLE IS GONNA HAVE A, A, A WETLAND BUFFER INTO THE PARCEL THAT YOU'RE GOING PART, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO USE OF YOUR PARCEL. IF I MAY GO OVER THERE REAL QUICK. SO THIS, THIS AREA HERE, SORRY, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE. IT LOOKS A LOT BIGGER ON THE MAP THAN IT ACTUALLY IS THIS LINE? IT IT IS, IT'S, IT IS A SMALL AREA. OKAY. MAYBE A HUNDRED FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE WOULD, SO BASICALLY WHAT OUR, WHAT WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE WHEN, ONCE HOPEFULLY WE GET PAST THIS, IS BASICALLY THIS IS GONNA STAY THAT NATURAL BUFFER BACK IN HERE. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NATURAL BUFFER AND OVER HERE, WHICH I THINK IS THIS JENNY? YES. MM-HMM . DOWN THIS LONG LINE OF JENNY GREEN, MAYBE IN THE DEVELOPMENT THEY STOLE THIS. THIS IS A DITCH, BASICALLY. YEAH. SO THIS WOULD ALSO BE A REALLY NICE NATURAL BUFFER. AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO HAVE, IF PLANNING, IF, IF EVERYBODY WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE A NATURAL BUFFER ON DEERFIELD, WE WANT TO KEEP IT NICE, WE WANT TO KEEP IT CLEAN. WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT 150,000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE UP THERE. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING FOUR OR 5,000 SQUARE FOOT FOR OUR OFFICES. AND, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT AS CLEAN AS WE POSSIBLY [00:25:01] CAN. WE LIVE HERE, MY EMPLOYEES LIVE HERE. WE WANT TO MAKE IT NICE. WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. SORRY, GO AHEAD. YEAH. UM, AND NOW ALSO, THIS IS ALSO TO STAFF. YOU KNOW, I, BECAUSE WE'RE ACROSS THE WAY FROM A COUNTY PROPERTY RATHER THAN A CITY PROPERTY, I ALWAYS ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER WE HAVE CONTACTED THE COUNTY AND WHETHER WE'VE HAD ANY COMMENT FROM THE COUNTY, COUNTY OBJECT. LEMME YOU ESTATES IS THE, THE LIGHT PURPLE. IT'S IN THE CITY. YEAH. SO FIRST OF ALL, YEAH. DEERFIELD ESTATES ACROSS THE STREET. ACROSS THE STREET IS IN THE CITY. YES. UM, WHERE'S THE COUNTY PROPERTY? YOU WERE TALKING COUNTY PROPERTY IS RIGHT BACK HERE. OKAY. UM, BUT YES, SAME. SO WE HAVE SENT, THE APPLICANT HAS SENT NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL AS STAFF HAS SENT THE ENTIRE PACKET TO THE JASPER COUNTY STAFF. SO YES, WE'VE HAD NO, NO, I GOTTA THANK YOU . GOOD. THAT'S SOMETHING GOOD. UM, YY BUT I, I DO HAVE THAT CONCERN. I MEAN, I, I, MY CONCERN IS NOT AT ALL ABOUT YOUR, WHAT YOUR TENTATIVE PLAN IS. YES, SIR. BUT IT'S THE IDEA OF REZONING AND THEN THEREFORE ALLOWING ALL THESE OTHER, UM, USES THERE. I THINK WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT, I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING ABOUT ANY PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE HAD THESE THINGS IN THE PAST WHERE MAYBE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS OR WHATEVER HAVE BEEN AGREED TO NOT DONE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU COME BACK YEARS AND YEARS LATER AND YOU HAVE A, YOU'RE CONSTRAINED BY WHAT WAS AGREED TO. I MEAN, I, I, I THINK, I THINK WHEN WE'RE DOING REZONING, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL THE POSSIBLE USES AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN. I, I DO APPRECIATE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I NOTICED IN THE, IN THE SETBACKS THAT THE, THE LI SETBACKS ARE TWICE WHAT THEY ARE IN RESIDENTIAL AND IN A COUPLE OF CASES MORE THAN TWICE. SO I DO APPRECIATE THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THAT THAT DIFFERENCE. BUT IN SOME OF WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST WITH THAT DISTRICT, UM, IS NOW, HAS NOW GONE AWAY BECAUSE WHEN WE UPDATED THE MZDO, WE DID INCREASE THOSE STANDARDS. SO, UM, SO YEAH, THE INCREASED BUFFER STANDARDS WILL DEFINITELY HELP IN THAT AREA. PROTECTION OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IS OBVIOUSLY KEY FOR EVERYBODY, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE COUNTY OR THE CITY. YEAH. AND I, I'M NOT SURE I FULLY APPRECIATED THAT THE STAFF HAS THE AUTHORITY TO, TO THOSE GREATER RESTRICTIONS THERE, BUT THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF CONFIDENCE TOO. BUT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MY, THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, IS THE USE, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY THE SETBACKS. ANYTHING ELSE? UH, I THINK THAT'S IT, STEVE. I DO ECHO JEFF'S CONCERNS WITH REZONING IT FROM P TO A LIMITED INDUSTRIAL. IF, IF IN FACT IT'S WETLANDS AND WON'T SUPPORT RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WILL SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS? I, I, I, I HAVE, I REALLY, MY CONCERN IS TAKING AWAY FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE, WE, WE WENT THROUGH THIS LAST MONTH AND IT WAS QUITE HEATED IN SOME INSTANCES, UM, WHERE WE WERE DOING A ZONE CHANGE. UM, AGAIN, I I, I HAVE A, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF HEARTBURN WITH, WITH CHANGING THE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. UM, IF, IF THE CITY OWNS, IF IF THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE HIGHWAY IS IN THE CITY, WHY NOT GO OVER THERE? WELL, THAT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED, THAT'S ALREADY A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IT INCLUDES A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. UM, THE GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS CLOSER TO PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT. UM, AND THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT OPPORTUNITY OUT THERE. SO THAT IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, RECOMMENDS IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SECTION THAT WE PULL SOME OF THE, THIS TYPE OF JOB OUT THERE. UM, ADDITIONALLY, CAN I BORROW THIS? UM, SO I KNOW WE WERE BE, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE AERIAL FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE I THINK IT SHOWS MORE THAN WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING BROUGHT OUT TOO. IS THERE? YEAH. OH NO, I DON'T WANT THAT ONE. I WANT THIS. JUST SHOW THE IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW. SO, UM, THIS IS THE ONE THAT CAME THROUGH RECENTLY FOR TAYLOR'S LANDSCAPING. [00:30:01] IT'S CURRENTLY, UM, UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND ABOUT TO GET STARTED, REGULAR DAILY USE. UM, THERE'S SOME CONCRETE COMPANIES, UM, ALONG HERE. UM, AND THEN YOU DO HAVE A, YOU HAVE A TOW YARD KIND OF UP HERE. UM, BUT IT IS KIND OF, IT'S, THESE TWO AREAS ARE KIND OF SURROUNDED BY ALL THESE INDUSTRIAL USES. SO, UM, THE, THE INCORPORATION OF THE COMMERCIAL AT THE FRONT OF THIS PARCEL WAS REALLY TO TRY TO PULL SOME JOBS SO THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T HAVING TO DRIVE EVERYWHERE. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT POINT UP. CAN, SORRY. SO YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT YOUR CORPORATE OFFICES THERE? YES, SIR. UM, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE STORAGE OF MATERIALS? WE WILL HAVE SMALL STORAGE AND MYSTERIAL PROBABLY A TOTAL OF, IF YOU, PROBABLY A TOTAL, IF YOU WERE TO STORE ALL THE MATERIAL AND MEASURE IT UP, I MEAN, YOU'D PROBABLY TALKING A HUNDRED FEET BY 20 FEET, MAYBE 2000 SQUARE FEET OF MATERIAL, WHICH WOULD BE SAND AND STONE WHEN WE HAVE TO USE 'EM ON JOB SITES. OKAY. AND, UM, YEAH, YOU'LL BE BE STORING EQUIPMENT THERE ALSO. YES, SIR. WE'RE A, WE'RE, WE'RE A LARGER COMPANY AND, AND WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE NEED IS GROWTH AND, AND JOBS UNDERSTAND. AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY WE WANT TO BE A PART OF HARDY. WITH THE GROWTH THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON THE RESIDENTIAL, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, NO. OKAY. AND SO IT WILL BE HAVE BE LIGHT LIGHTED AT NIGHT. IT WOULD'VE SECURITY. IT WOULD'VE SECURITY LIGHTS. WHAT? YEAH. AND, AND THE GOAL, THE GOAL HERE WITH OUR INCREASED BUFFER STANDARDS IS TO NOT REPEAT WHAT HAPPENED UP HERE AND TO HAVE THAT EQUIPMENT BE COMPLETELY SCREENED FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. AND SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, INVITING TO, OKAY. UN UNDERSTAND. SEE ALL THAT. I UNDERSTAND. IT WILL NOT BE LAID DOWN THE ORDER. SO THAT WAS MY FIRST QUESTION FOR HIM WHEN HE CAME. OKAY. IF I'M GONNA SAY, IF, IF, IF WE, I KNOW THIS IS GOING DOWN THE ROAD, PUSHING THE DOWN THE ROAD, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT IF, IF IN FACT WE, WE APPROVE THIS AND SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL, WOULD YOU CONSIDER SOLO LIGHTING VERSUS WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T CONDITION THAT CONDITIONS ON THIS, HUH? WE CANNOT. THIS IS REZONE NOT, NOT PDD. I KNOW THAT'S, BUT I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IF HE WOULD CONSIDER IT. WELL, CAN I ASK, YOU CAN ASK HIM FOR THAT, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE CANNOT REQUIRE THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I SAID I WAS PUSHING IT DOWN THE ROAD AND ASKING A QUESTION. CAN I ADD SOMETHING, UM, TO THIS? I KNOW THERE'S SIMILARITIES IN THIS WITH THE BUFFERS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THE RESIDENCE, BUT THIS JOB IS DIFFERENT. THIS, THIS JOB HAD AN INTENDED PURPOSE AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE THAT DOESN'T REALLY FIT. ALTHOUGH IT, IT APPEARS THAT IT DOESN'T FIT VERY WELL. IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT BAD OF A FIT. WE'VE GOT A ROAD, IT'S ALREADY GONNA BE A BUFFER ON THE SOUTH OF THAT. WE'VE GOT, UM, THE INTENT OF THE PEOPLE THAT DONATED THE PROPERTY, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, UM, THAT WAS THEIR INTENTION. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I SEE HERE TODAY, MR. STEVEN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I COULDN'T AFFORD TO PUT THE LIGHTS LIKE THEY HAVE AT THE BASEBALL FIELD. UM, THE LIGHT, THE LIGHTING THAT WE WOULD HAVE WOULD BE AROUND ON THE BUILDING. I DON'T SEE IT MOTION TO TEND TO, BUT YES, WE WOULD CONSIDER EVERYTHING. WE, WE WANT TO, WE WANNA WORK HAND IN HAND AND BE A POSITIVE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AS WELL AS FOR YOU GUYS. 'CAUSE I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA SEE AGAIN ON OTHER PROJECTS. SO WE YES, WE WOULD CONSIDER MOST LIKELY ANYTHING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, TRAFFIC, YOU SAID YOU GOT 175 EMPLOYEES. ARE THEY ALL GONNA MUSTER IN AND OUT OF THIS SITE? UM, WE HAVE, SO THE, THE DAILY REPORT TO THAT SITE WOULD BE PROBABLY AROUND 65 OR 70, WHICH A GOOD PORTION OF OUR LABOR FORCE RIGHT NOW IS IN THE HAR HARDY RIDGELAND AREA NOW. UM, SO THEY CONSTANTLY WILL COME DOWN 3 21 OR 4 62, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY WOULD LIVE, UM, IN HARDY OR RIDGELAND. THEY STOP IN IN THE MORNING, GET THEIR ASSIGNMENTS AND GO ON. YES, SIR. WE'D HAVE ABOUT, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 30, 30 PEOPLE THAT WOULD REMAIN IN THE OFFICE ON A DAILY BASIS. SO, SO THERE'S 30 PEOPLE THAT COME AND [00:35:01] STAY AND ANOTHER 35 THAT COME AND DISPERSE TO WHATEVER THEIR JOB FOR THE DAY IS, AND THEN THE REST WOULD, WOULD THEY GO DIRECTLY TO THE JOB SITES? OKAY. WHAT WOULD BE THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE STAFF THAT IS BEING DISPATCHED? HOW EARLY IN THE MORNING ARE THEY GONNA BE THERE? WE TRY TO GET EVERYBODY IN. 90% OF THE PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AT SIX 15 TO SIX 30, BUT THEY DON'T, THEY'RE ALWAYS LATE AND THEN THEY AND THEN WE TRY TO HAVE THEM ON JOBS LIKE MARGARITAVILLE BY 7:00 AM SO I'D SAY AROUND 6:00 AM AND THEN WE'RE USUALLY LOCKING THE GATES AT 5, 5 30. THERE MIGHT BE A STRAGGLE THAT COMES IN LATER THAN THAT, BUT IT'S USUALLY DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. WELL, I'M THINKING ABOUT WAKING UP THE NEIGHBORS AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW YES, SIR. NOISY YOUR OPERATION IS AS YOU TRY TO GET PEOPLE GOING. WELL, I WOULD AS ASSURE YOU THAT I AM NOT AS NOISY AS THE OTHER NEIGHBORS. UM, OKAY. SO LIKE THESE GUYS UP HERE, WE WE'RE A BIG, UM, THEY'RE ONE OF OUR LARGEST, UH, CONCRETE SUPPLIERS. SO WHEN WE POUR AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING IN DOWNTOWN SAVANNAH, THEY'RE SPINNING THEIR TRUCKS AND THEIR LOADERS AND THEY'RE LOADING US ALL UP AND SENDING IT DOWN 17 ACROSS ALLIGATOR ALLEY. UM, OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, UH, CURRY CREEK, THE CURRY FAMILY THERE. UH, WE BUY AND SELL TO THEM AS WELL, PROVIDE THEM A LOT OF SERVICE. AND THEN OVER HERE WE WON'T DEFINITELY NOT GONNA BE AS NOISY AS THE TOW YARD. SO WE'RE, WE'RE PICKUP TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. MOST OF OUR MACHINERY, I MEAN WE HAVE PROBABLY 50 OR 60 PIECES OF MACHINERY. MOST OF THAT MACHINERY STAYS ON SITE. UM, TOLL BROTHERS HAS PROBABLY 15 PIECES OF IT. MARGARITAVILLE, UH, EVERYBODY ELSE, WE USUALLY LEAVE THEM ON SITES. JUST MAKE ANY MONEY FOR SITTING AT YOUR YARD. VERY TRUE. VERY TRUE. WE TRY TO NOT LEAVE IT IN. WE WOULD LOVE TO KEEP THEM IN THE YARD AND THEN THE POLICE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORK AS HARD, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO LEAVE 'EM ON THE SITES 'CAUSE OF THE COST. SO YOU'RE IN MARGARITAVILLE. WE WERE, YOU WERE IN MARGARITA. WE WE WERE IN THE MARGARITAVILLE. WE DID ALL OF HILTON HEAD LAKES. WE JUST PULLED OUTTA MARGARITA. WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF GOING ON IN THERE, BUT WE DID ALL THE HILTON HEAD LAKES WHEN IT WAS REAL STAR. AND NOW WE DO, UH, DREAM FINDERS IN THE BACK, UM, OVER THERE AT MAGNOLIA WALK. WE DO WHOLE BROTHERS. WE'LL BE DOING THE MORGAN TRACK FOR THE DR. HORTON FOR SEAN WARE. UM, WE'RE DOING, UM, ROYAL OAKS WITH, UH, FRAN AND ROGER BRIGHT. UM, AND THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY HAVE COMING UP OVER HERE IN SUNSET, WE DO ALL OF MR. ROGERS, UH, FORNOS, UH, COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AND NOW WE DO ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL. I'VE SEEN WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN MARGARITAVILLE AND YOU DO A GOOD JOB. OH, THANK YOU SIR. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU . ALRIGHT, THAT I'LL GIVE HIM AN, ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU. FROM THE COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY? I COULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE A, MAKE A COMMENT. COME ON UP. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. TELL US WHERE YOU LIVE. I'M DEBORAH BUTLER. I LIVE IN BURG, WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM THIS, BUT ON THE SAVANNAH RIVER. AND, UM, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING TO OUR AREA. I GUESS WHAT'S MOST CONCERNING TO ME, UM, I DON'T LIVE HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IF YOU GO DOWN AND CHECK THE SOCIOECONOMIC LEVEL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THESE COMMUNITIES, I'M GUESSING THEY WON'T BE YOUR NEIGHBORS ANYTIME SOON. THIS IS PROBABLY A LOW INCOME HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AND ONCE AGAIN, GOVERNMENT IS DOING WHAT YOU SEE DONE ALL THE TIME. YOU'RE MAKING A COMMUNITY THAT YOU WOULDN'T LIVE IN. YOU'RE GONNA PUT BUSINESS THERE. I'M GLAD FOR BUSINESS. I'M HAPPY THAT WE HAVE BUSINESS COMING. MY HUSBAND WAS A BUSINESSMAN FOR 40 SOME ODD YEARS THAT HAS TO BE BALANCED WITH THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE. AND I SEE THAT IN HARDY, THE PEOP YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT, PROBABLY, I'M GUESSING YOU ALL LIVE IN GATED COMMUNITIES, UM, SO YOU'RE PROTECTED FROM THIS, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR GENERATIONS ARE NOT THOSE PEOPLE. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY. I THOUGHT THAT YOU ARE REALLY TAKING A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE ON THESE FOLKS. SOMEBODY HAS TO STOP THE DEVELOPMENT FROM ENCROACHING ON POOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO VOICE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVE NO VOICE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW THEY NEED ONE . UH, BUT ANYWAY, I GET A LITTLE BIT EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT. I'M SORRY. I, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL TAKE TO HEART THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE IN THOSE HOMES AND, UM, THEY'RE THERE. [00:40:01] MANY OF 'EM BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE. UM, I'M MAKING A GREAT ASSUMPTION. I I DON'T GO INTO THAT COMMUNITY, BUT I BELIEVE IT TO BE LOW INCOME HOUSING. IF IT'S NOT, IT'S STILL PEOPLE AND CHILDREN THAT LIVE THERE. SO ANYWAY, I HOPE I, IT'S A TOUGH JOB YOU HAVE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHTS OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UM, AND TO MOVE FORWARD THEIR BUSINESS. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND IT'S A REALLY TOUGH, TOUGH JOB YOU HAVE. UM, BUT I HOPE YOU WON'T FORGET THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HERE TODAY THAT YOU NEED TO KEEP IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I REALLY DO. BUT I, AND I, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE AND YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT. UM, I, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF THE, OF THE CITY AND I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT, THAT I HEAR ALL THE TIME IS WHY DON'T THE CITY SUPPORT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE? WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. UM, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REZONING A RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN IS I WANT TO SEE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. IT HELPS OUR TAX BASE. UM, AND, AND, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT MAYBE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL GO OVER AND ASK FOR A JOB. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S AN EMOTIONAL THING. I UNDERSTAND. AND, AND COULD I ASK A QUESTION? IS THIS SPOT ZONING? NO. NO. AND WHY IS IT NOT? SINCE IT DOESN'T A JOIN A MIXED BUSINESS, UM, ZONING SPOT. YEAH. UM, SPOT ZONING HAS, HAS, HAS DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS, BUT, UM, LEGALLY AND EVERYTHING, THIS DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS BECAUSE THERE IS INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES AS WELL. SO, UM, IT IS, UM, FROM THE LEGAL SENSE 'CAUSE WE, WE CERTAINLY CHECK ALL OF THESE THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR ATTORNEYS AND EVERYTHING. THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING. DOES A COMMERCIAL JOIN THIS SOMEWHERE? THIS PROPERTY, THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY TO THE, UM, REAR OF DEERFIELD VILLAGE IS ALL ZONE COMMERCIAL, IS ALL ZONE LIMITED INDUSTRIAL. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. THE DARKER PURPLE IS LIMITED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL ON THE LIGHTER PURPLE PARCEL A LITTLE BIT. YES. THE COMMERCIAL ON THAT AND THE, THE, THE COUNTY DONUT MM-HMM . BETWEEN THE TWO PURPLES IS ALSO INDUSTRIAL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . YES. YEAH. SO THE WHOLE SPIVEY, IS IT SPIDEY, REDY SPINY. THAT'S ALL PURPLE. SO IN REALITY, THREE QUARTERS OF THAT SECTION IS ALREADY LIMITED INDUSTRIAL. ALRIGHT, ANY COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, REJECT OR TABLE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONSIDERATION OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MFR DISTRICT TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL USE ALLY FOR PARCEL 0 2 9 DASH ZERO ZERO DASH FOUR ONE LOCATED AT DEERFIELD ROAD, PLUS OR MINUS 19.43 ACRES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY, SO IT'S UNANIMOUS. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS A PREGNANT PAUSE. . YEAH. SO GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT. WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO YOU AS A NEIGHBOR. THANK YOU SIR. AND SIR, TO OUR COMMENTS, BE REALLY NICE IF YOU COULD REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS ONCE YOU'RE THERE AND LET THEM KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE OPENINGS AND YOU'D BE WILLING TO TAKE PEOPLE ON AND TRAIN THEM. 1000%. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT. ALRIGHT, REAL QUICK. UM, SO CURRENT PROJECTS, UM, THIS MORNING WE HAD A STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING FOR [00:45:01] A NEW HIGH SCHOOL CHARTER SCHOOL THAT TARGETS ATHLETES. UM, RIGHT HERE DOWNTOWN. UM, THAT IS UNDER REVIEW BY STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE. UM, IT WAS OUR FIRST MEETING ABOUT IT TODAY. SO, UM, THERE'S SOME WORK TO BE DONE, BUT IT COULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, IS THIS A, IS THIS GONNA GO INTO AN EXISTING STRUCTURE OR IS THAT A NEW NO, IT'S ON A, IT'S ON A, UM, PROPERTY ACTUALLY DOWN HERE OFF OF MAIN STREET. I'LL HAVE TO SHOW YOU ON A MAP. I CAN'T REALLY DECIDE. OKAY. IT'S NOBODY REALLY REALIZES THIS PROPERTY EXISTS. SO, UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHOW YOU. UM, BOY STREET, UM, SIDEWALK PROJECT IS UNDERWAY, SO THERE WILL, THAT WILL DO THE CONNECTION OF SIDEWALKS FOR THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR. UM, WE ATTENDED THE ROYAL OAKS RIBBON CUTTING FOR PHASE ONE. THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELLING, STARTING TO SELL THOSE UNITS NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE. UM, SO THOSE ARE FOR THE DUPLEXES IN TOWN HOMES OVER THERE NEXT TO THE CHARTER, THE OTHER CHARTER CENTER. RYAN. RYAN HOMES. YEAH. RYAN AND FARINO. IT'S A COMBO. UM, AND THEN WE'VE STARTED, WELL I'LL GO STAY DOWNTOWN. UM, SUNSET CIRCLE. UM, CHRIS ATTENDED THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING FOR AN INFILL PROJECT THAT FARINO IS DOING WITH DUPLEXES. UM, SO THAT'S A GOOD TRANSITIONAL PROJ PRODUCT FOR, UM, A FEW LOTS DOWN THERE. UM, CAR WE'VE STARTED REVIEWING SOME INITIAL INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS FOR ROADS AND UTILITIES. UM, NOTHING YET FOR THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY'RE GETTING SET UP WITH THEIR STORMWATER MASTER PLAN AND EVERYTHING. UM, AND THEN I'M SURE MOST OF YOU HAVE NOTICED HARBOR FREIGHT, UM, OVER BY PET PARADISE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. YES. . I GET THAT REACTION A LOT WHEN I SAY THAT. UM, UPDATE ON COUNCIL APPLICATIONS. UM, LAST MONTH YOU HEARD THE SAULS COURT REZONING THAT IS GOING TO A WORKSHOP. UM, DATE IS STILL IN THE WORKS. UM, APPROVALS THAT HAVE HAPPENED ARE RIVER ROCK EASY LIVING AND THE SUMTER DRIVE REZONING. THAT WAS FOR THE, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. UM, THE BILLBOARDS ARE STILL TABLED PENDING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BILL OR THE, THE DIGITAL BILLBOARD PROJECT REQUEST ON 17. WELL, IT WAS A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT, WHICH REALLY WOULD BE FOR WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED IN THE CITY. WE DID, BUT WE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL JUST PENDING IT. THEY HAVEN'T MADE A MOTION YET. YEAH, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GONE THROUGH FIR HAVEN'T PASSED FIRST READING YET. SO, UM, AND THEN THE TWO BIG ONES, MORGAN AND HILTON HEAD LAKES WEST ARE DUE FOR, THEY'VE HAD SOME WORKSHOPS. THEY'RE DUE FOR FIRST READING AGAIN ON THE 20TH OF THIS MONTH, SO RIGHT. THAT'S CIRCLING BACK TO DOWNTOWN. MM-HMM . WHATEVER HAPPENED TO MR. PATEL'S BUILDING ON MAIN STREET DOWN BY THE PIGGLY WIGGLY? WELL, WE MADE, WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS THROUGH STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE, GETTING THE COMMENTS ADDRESSED AND EVERYTHING. AND THEN, UM, THE PROJECT GOT HELD, GOT PUT ON HOLD BY THE OWNER. SO I WOULD IMAGINE IT'LL COME BACK WHEN HE'S READY. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TODAY. UM, WE'RE GETTING READY. WE HAVE TO, UM, GO OUT AND DO SOME WORK WITH WORK ON THE MORGAN TRACK NEXT. SO STAY TUNED. SORRY. AND IF YOU DID NOT SEE THE ANNOUNCEMENT LAST WEEK, THE GOVERNOR WAS IN TOWN AND, UM, WITH TS CONDUCTORS COMING THROUGH, UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, KATIE WAS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF BACKGROUND WORK ON, ON GETTING THAT AND I KNOW LOTS OF STAFF AND LOTS OF FOLKS ARE INVOLVED IN THAT. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING YOU MORE THINGS LIKE THAT. KATIE QUESTION. OKAY. ON, ON, ON THE CONTRACT. OKAY. UM, THEY'RE STILL HOLDING FAST THAT THEY, THEY WON'T ALLOW ANY PARTICIPATION WITH THE PLANE CRASH. I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT RIGHT NOW, MR. TALBOT. UM, WE CAN SPEAK ABOUT IT IN ANOTHER TIME, BUT I, I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANY PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS THAT THEY WANNA MAKE? ALL RIGHT. YEAH. UM, I KNOW LAST MONTH I ASKED ABOUT, UM, GETTING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.