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TALKING FUNNY.THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON.
WE'RE GONNA START TODAY WITH THE, UH, INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY MAYOR PORTER.
VALERIE GUZMAN, PLEASE RISE ALMIGHTY.
[I. INVOCATION & PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
GATHER TODAY TO DISCUSS MATTER IS IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE AND WISDOM.
GRANT US THE ABILITY TO, TO LISTEN WITH OPEN HEARTS AND MINDS, AND MAY OUR DECISIONS REFLECT THE NEEDS OF ALL THOSE WE SERVE.
UH, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE, UH, A FEW MINUTES TO OFFER OUR PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS TO, TO MRS. BO WHITE, UH, WHO IS A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER THANK YOU, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND EACH REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN MEXICO OF LIBERTY.
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE AROUND THE WORLD PROTECTING OUR WAY OF LIFE.
UM, I'LL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
[II. CALL TO ORDER]
THIS IS A CITY OF HARDY, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING, 2 0 5 MAIN STREET, HARDY V, SOUTH CAROLINA, MARCH 6TH, 2025 AT 5:00 PM UM, MAY I HAVE, UH, A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO TODAY'S AGENDA? MAKE A MOTION.WE APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA AS PRESENTED.
[III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
WE HAVE A MOTION.UM, NUMBER ONE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT.
AND AS, UM, MRS. GUZMAN MENTIONED, MR. WHITE, UM, IS, UM, WITH HIS WIFE.
AND, UH, MR. CARROLL IS HELPING HIM OUT.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND, UM, HOPEFULLY EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.
UM, SECONDLY, UH, HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE THIRD PARTIAL RESTATEMENT AND AMENDMENT TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HARDY V LK DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC, AND LENNAR CAROLINAS, LLC LENNAR, AND TOGETHER WITH LK DEVELOPMENT GROUP, COLLECTIVELY OF THE LAND OWNER OF THE LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF HARDY, COMMONLY KNOWN AS HILTON HEAD LAKES, WEST TRACK.
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A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON THIS ITEM ON FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025.AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL VOTED TO TABLE THE ITEM TO MARCH 20TH, 2025, MEETING.
THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE SHALL BE HELD AT THE MARCH 20TH, 2025 MEETING.
THAT ANNOUNCEMENT IS FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE EXPECTING THAT, THAT YOU HAD RECEIVED PUBLIC NOTICE THAT IT WOULD BE ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA THAT WAS TABLED TO MARCH 20TH.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT, THAT WILL NOT BE HAPPENING THIS EVENING.
CINDY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? NO, SIR.
[V. PUBLIC COMMENTS (3 MINUTE TIME LIMIT)]
NO PUBLIC COMMENTS SIGNED UP.SO WE GO TO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.
[VI. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS]
BRIANNA MINGLE.[A. INTRODUCTION RECORDS CLERK- BRIANNA MINGLEDORFF]
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE TO INTRODUCE BRIANNA MINGLE DORF.
SHE'S COME TO US FROM SAVANNAH.
I MEAN, SHE WAS BORN IN SAVANNAH, GREW UP IN RIDGELAND.
UM, SHE ATTENDED AND GRADUATED ESTHETICIAN SCHOOL IN 2021.
SHE HAS HOBBIES OF HUNTING, FISHING, AND GOING TO CHURCH, WHICH IS WHAT SHE ENJOYS.
UM, BRIANNA COMES FROM US FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
SHE WAS THE ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK THERE.
SO SHE HAS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE.
THOSE ARE SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING, AND, UH, WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HER.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF.
SO, LIKE YOU SAID, I AM BASICALLY BEEN RAISED IN LIN MY WHOLE LIFE.
UM, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A HOUSE WITH MY LONG-TERM BOYFRIEND.
I DO ENJOY HUNTING, FISHING, AND GOING TO CHURCH.
I STARTED AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WHEN I WAS 20.
I WAS AT THE FRONT DESK AND THEN MOVED INTO THE RECORDS DEPARTMENT.
I WAS IN CHARGE OF SEX OFFENDERS, CIVIL BODY CAMERAS.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE SOLICITOR'S OFFICE FOR A WHILE AND HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO HARDY VILLAGE AND JUMPED ALL OVER IT.
SO, I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE WISH YOU A LOT OF SUCCESS AND, AND A LONG CAREER WITH US.
NEXT INTRODUCTION OF ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY TAKE OVER FOR ME, PLEASE.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY.
[B. INTRODUCTION OF ADMIN ASSISTANT-ESVEIDI NORIEGA]
AS YOU INDICATED, WE DO HAVE SBD NORIEGA WITH US HERE TODAY.SHE IS IN THAT ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ROLE THAT WILL BE HELPING ADMINISTRATION CITY HALL, ALONG WITH COUNCIL AND STUFF.
SHE HAS HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, UH, A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.
WE, WE WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE HER, AND WE'LL LET HER TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HERSELF.
ENA FOR MY HISPANICS, YOU KNOW, MY SPANISH SPEAKERS MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, I'M JUST GONNA SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN THE BEAUTIFUL LOW COUNTRY.
I, IT'S A TRUE HONOR TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ALONGSIDE SUCH A DEDICATED GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.
I, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE, THIS IS MY SECOND WEEK, AND I ALREADY LOVE IT.
I CAME FROM THE, UH, SCHOOL SYSTEM AND NOW I'M WORKING HERE IN, IN A DIFFERENT SETTING.
BUT I'M LEARNING A LOT, AND I LOVE IT.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATING WITH ALL OF YOU AND BRINGING MY SKILLS AND PASSION TO THE TEAM AND FOR ANYBODY THAT, UM, IS IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND IS SCARED TO APPROACH CITY HALL.
I'M HERE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND COME SEE ME HERE.
OH, YOU HAD THE SHOW OFF, DIDN'T YOU?
WHAT ELSE CAN YOU SAY? OH, YOU DON'T WANNA
DO YOU HAVE A NICKNAME? UM, I SAID NO FOR WHEN I FIRST STARTED.
UM, ACTUALLY, I MET HER A COUPLE OF TIMES AND SHE'S ALREADY TOLD ME HOW TO SAY IT SIX TIMES, SO I'M A LITTLE DUMB.
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THE INTRODUCTION OF, HAVE YOU MET CARLA VINCENT AS A CITY ENGINEER? THAT ONE YOU CAN SEE[C. INTRODUCTION OF KARLA VINCENT-CITY ENGINEER]
GOOD AFTERNOON.I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, FOR A MONTH NOW.
I HAVE BEEN IN THE LOW COUNTRY FOR THREE YEARS.
PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS IN INDIANA.
UM, I'M A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN INDIANA AND SOUTH CAROLINA.
I'VE WORKED FOR CONSULTING FIRMS IN THE PAST.
UM, I WORKED FOR THE STATE DOT IN INDIANA, UH, PREVIOUS CITY.
UM, AND THEN MOST RECENTLY I WORKED FOR THE TOWN OF HILTON HEAD BEFORE COMING OVER HERE.
I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE AND, UH, HOPE THE CITY GROW.
HAVE YOU MET CARLA
HAVE YOU MET CARLA? AND SO THAT'S HER NEW NAME.
WELCOME TO HARDY V, AND MAY HAVE A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL CAREER WITH US.
UM, NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE 20, UH, FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025
[VII. PRESENTATION & APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 20TH? MAKE A MOTION.
[A. FEBRUARY 20, 2025 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING]
THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 20TH.ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
ALL THOSE OPPOSED THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
[VIII. OLD BUSINESS]
OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR ATTRACTIVE LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 36.7 ACRES, KNOWN GENERALLY AS RIVER ROCK.[A. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 36.7 ACRES, KNOWN GENERALLY AS RIVER ROCK EASY LIVING AT EAST ARGENT LOCATED ON EAST ARGENT PARKWAY IN THE EAST ARGENT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN (2025-02-06A)]
AT EAST AR, LOCATED ON EAST AR PARKWAY IN THE EAST AR PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDY TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN.
THIS IS ORDINANCE 2025 DASH OH TWO DASH OH SIX.
UM, MS. SNOWDEN OR MR. GRUBER? YES, SIR.
JUST TO KIND OF TEE THIS MATTER UP BEFORE TURNING IT OVER TO, UH, BRIANNA, THIS ITEM CAME BEFORE COUNSEL AT THE FEBRUARY 20TH MEETING FOR FIRST READING.
AT THAT MEETING, COUNSEL APPROVED THE MATTER MOVING FORWARD, UH, BUT REQUESTED SEVERAL REVISIONS AND SOME THINGS BE LOOKED AT.
AND SO WANTED TO ASK BRIANNA TO COME UP HERE.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT HAS RESUBMITTED BASED IN RESPONSE TO THOSE QUESTIONS, AND SO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE HER, UH, KIND OF WALK US THROUGH WHAT REVISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE THIS APPEARED BEFORE YOU AT FIRST READING.
AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I HAVE THE, UM, THE EXHIBIT FOR THE MASTER PLAN UP.
UM, I'LL HAVE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE MASTER PLAN IN THERE IF WE NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER EXHIBIT OR NOT.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE WATER MASTER PLAN, BUT IT, IT GIVES YOU THE KEY IN INFORMATION ON THERE.
UM, WHAT WE, UM, HAVE WITH THIS RESUBMITTAL WITH THIS RE UM, REWORKING OF IT, IS THEY HAVE MOVED SOME BUILDINGS AROUND.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'VE INCREASED THE BUFFER BETWEEN, UM, PUBLIC'S AND THE PUBLIC SITE.
AND THIS, UM, OVERALL THE DENSITY IS ONE LESS ATTACHED BUILDING, WHICH IS THREE LESS UNITS.
SO IT WENT FROM AN ORIGINAL REQUEST OF 325 MAX TO 322 UNITS.
UM, THE ADDITIONAL BUFFER LANGUAGE ADDED ON IN THE DOCUMENT, AS WELL AS SHOWING HERE THE 20 FOOT BUFFER ALONG PUBLIX BOUNDARY AT THE CLUBHOUSE, WHICH IS, OOPS, IN THAT AREA.
YEAH, WELL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I PRACTICED, I PRACTICED WITH THIS THING.
SO THIS IS THE AREA OF THE, UM, CLUBHOUSE MAYBE MOVING.
UM, AND THE, THE, SO THAT BUFFER HAS BEEN 45 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER COMPRISED OF A SEVEN TO 10 FOOT TALL FENCE ALONG THE PUBLIX'S BOUNDARY.
AND THAT IS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
AS WELL AS, UM, NEXT TO THOSE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, EXISTING VEGETATION WILL BE MAINTAINED TO THE ALL EXTENT, ANY EXTENT POSSIBLE.
AS I MENTIONED, THE CLUBHOUSE WAS RELOCATED, GREEN SPACE RE RELOCATED, AND ATTACHED UNITS RELOCATED THROUGHOUT.
UM, WENT THROUGH, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THEY, THEY'VE MOVED SOME STORM WATER AROUND AND HAVE THE WALKING TRAILS AND, AND THAT TYPE OF THING ARE INCLUDED IN THIS.
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I HOPE THAT GIVES YOU AN OVERALL VIEW THAT APPLICANTS AND THE REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.BUT THOSE WERE THE BIG ISSUES THAT WE HAD NO NOTATED FROM, UM, THE LAST MEETING.
UH, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? AND YOU CAN, YOU CAN POINT AT THIS.
UM, UH, MS. BRANDON DID A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING THINGS.
I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT.
DID YOU ALSO EXPLAIN WHO YOU ARE? OH, GUESS IT SHOULD FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, I'M RUSTY WINDOR WITH KIMLEY HORN ON BEHALF OF RIVER ROCK
AND, UH, AND SO ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO 0.2 IS THE BUILDING HERE, PARKING LOTS.
SO WE, WE SLID THAT BUILDING ALMOST 70 FEET AWAY TO GIVE US, AND, AND THEN MOVED THAT PARKING THAT WAS KIND OF IN THIS AREA AND KIND OF REDISTRIBUTED THAT PARKING OVER HERE ON THIS SIDE.
SO THAT'S A, WE WE PULLED THAT BUILDING AWAY A GOOD BIT.
I MEAN, THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE, THROUGH YOUR, YOUR DISCUSSION, YOU, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOVING THE CLUBHOUSE AND THAT WORKED OUT REALLY WELL, I THINK, I THINK HAVING THIS CLUBHOUSE TUCKED OVER HERE IN THIS CORNER AND ALLOWING THIS TO BE FLAKED WITH, UM, RESIDENTS ALONG THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, I THINK IT GIVES A GOOD LOOK ON THE, ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING.
UM, OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT PONDS AND SAFETY WITH THE PONDS WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PUT SIGNS UP AROUND THERE, NOTIFY 'EM OF THE WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING.
AND THEN INSIDE OF THE IMP, WE DIDN'T PUT IT ON ANY OF THE, THE, THE EXHIBITS, BUT INSIDE THE IMP, WE LISTED OUT THE AMENITIES THAT WERE, UH, PLANNING TO PROVIDE INSIDE OF THE, UM, CLUBHOUSE AND, AND THE GREEN SPACE AREAS.
UM, AND THAT IS THE, UM, ALL OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE, THE BIGGEST WING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME WAS, WAS TRYING TO, UM, INCREASE THIS BUFFER.
AND SO WE, WITH A MEMBER BEFORE THERE WAS A ROAD THAT KIND OF, UM, CAME OUT PERPENDICULAR TO THIS ROAD MM-HMM
AND THERE WERE TWO BUILDINGS FLANKING THAT, THAT AREA RIGHT THERE.
BY TURNING THOSE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, 90 DEGREES, IT ALLOWED US TO GET, YOU KNOW, SLIDE THAT, THAT, UH, THOSE BUILDINGS AWAY.
A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT INCREASE.
SO, UM, BUT, UM, IF YOU, UH, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO ADD AND, UM, OPEN ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS SO QUICKLY.
I'M GONNA START THE QUESTIONING WITH MR. MESMAN BECAUSE, UM, IT WAS HIS SUGGESTIONS TO MOVE ALL THESE BUILDINGS AROUND AND JUST LOOKING AT THEM, UM, A THANK YOU FOR DOING IT, BUT MY COMPLIMENTS TO MR. MESMAN FOR THINKING OF THE, THESE IDEAS.
SO STEVE, UH, ARE YOU HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY DID HERE? YES, BECAUSE I PLAYED WITH LEGOS A LOT AS A CHILD,
AND WHAT WERE WE BEFORE? UH, UH, 2020.
YOU KNOW, MOVING THE PARKING LOT.
YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT THE SUGGESTIONS CAME FORWARD, AND I THINK YOU HAD A GREAT PRODUCT BEFORE.
NOW YOU GOT A FANTASTIC PRODUCT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GENTLEMEN.
AND THEN, JUST TO REITERATE, THERE'S A 25 FOOT BUFFER ON THE OTHER SIDE FOR PUBLIC MM-HMM
MR. MAYOR, SO THAT BUFFER WAS HERE, A 20 FOOT BUFFER.
THERE'S A, YOU JUST MENTIONED, YEAH, THE, UM, I WILL TRY TO DO THIS AGAIN.
SO ON THE, ON THE PUBLIC SIDE OF THIS, THERE'S A POND LOCATED ON THIS, THIS SIDE OF THE, UM, THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN ON THEIR PLAN, THEY HAVE A 25 FOOT BUFFER AND WITH A FENCE PROPOSED AS WELL.
MR. GUZMAN, I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
AND I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PUT THE SIGNS UP AT THE PONDS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG ISSUE FOR ME MM-HMM
BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY IS, UH, WHERE ARE THE OUTFALL FOR THE PONDS FOR STORM WATER? GOOD QUESTION.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THAT THIS, THIS POND WILL FLOW INTO THIS POND, AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PIPE THAT WE HAVE HERE, WELL, SORRY, THERE'S A PIPE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE A PIPE THAT GOES BEHIND THESE BUILDINGS TO THIS POND, PIPE TO THIS BUILD THIS POND.
AND THEN THERE, THIS IS THE LOWEST POINT ON THE PROPERTY.
SO WE'LL BE DISCHARGING TO THESE WETLANDS HERE AND THESE WETLANDS DRAIN, UM, THEY, THEY, THEY TYPICALLY DRAIN ON THIS PLAN.
IT'LL BE SOUTH, AND THEN THEY KIND OF GO AROUND A WETLAND SYSTEM AND THEN COME BACK OUT AND GO ACROSS ONE 70.
AND SO THERE'S AVAILABILITY FOR THIS STUFF, THIS WETLAND TO FLOW ACROSS THE ROAD AND GO NORTH AS WELL.
SO, UM, THE REASON I ASKED WAS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH THE HEAVY RAINS AND, AND SOME OF THE STORMS THAT WE GET HERE DON'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT IT'S A, IT'S A HURRICANE.
UH, SOMETIMES THE TROPICAL STORMS CAN, IT'S LIKE DEBBIE LAST
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YEAR.UM, SO DO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE OVER TOPPING OF THOSE PONDS DURING A STORM? SO, UM, SO THE PONDS WILL BE DES UH, DESIGNED TO THE STATE STANDARDS FOR THEM TO MEET THE, UM, PRE-VER THERE'S A, THERE'S A PRE-DEVELOPMENT FLOW THAT'S, THAT COMES OFF OF ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES AND WE HAVE TO HOLD THAT WATER BACK AND DETAIN IT SO THAT IT WILL RELEASE AT THE SAME RATE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO SET OUR, OUR TOP OF BANKS WHERE THE, WHERE THE BANKS, WHERE THESE ARE A HALF A FOOT ABOVE WHERE THAT, THAT THAT MAXIMUM STORM WILL STAGE TWO.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE WILL PUT IN, UM, EMERGENCY OVERFLOW WEIRS.
OR JUST IN CASE IT GETS UP TO THAT POINT.
IT'LL HAVE, HAVE WAY, A WAY TO GET OUT.
SO WE WILL HAVE EMERGENCY OVERFLOW WEIRS ON THIS POND HERE.
ONE IN THE WETLAND, THIS POND THERE, AND THIS POND THERE, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE IT MULTIPLE PLACES TO BE ABLE TO, SO IT'LL OVERFLOW INTO THE WETLANDS, THEN ONTO THE PROPERTY FLOODING THOSE, UH, UNITS.
AND ONLY IN THOSE, THOSE ARE EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS.
IT'S, IT'S MAINLY FOR THOSE THAT, THAT ONCE, THAT ONCE STORM THAT YOU GET SUPPOSEDLY IN A HUNDRED YEARS.
PAST COUPLE TIMES WE'VE BEEN GETTING THEM ABOUT EVERY 50 YEARS OR 20 YEARS OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY'VE BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE FREQUENT, BUT YEAH.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO.
JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHAT FLOOD ZONE IS THIS PROPERTY? SO WE'RE ACTUALLY, WE ARE OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE, BUT THE, THE WETLAND ITSELF IS, UM, UM, A, A OKAY.
UM, GREAT JOB WITH CHANGING THIS AROUND.
AND, UM, COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AS YOU WERE EXPLAINING IN MY MIND.
FIRST OF ALL, WE, THE FENCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, HOW HIGH IS IT GONNA BE? SO WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT, WE DID, WE SAID SEVEN TO 10 FEET.
WE REACHED OUT TO A FEW, UM, FENCE SUPPLIERS IN THIS AREA AND THEY WERE HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING HOW TO BUILD THAT 10 FOOT TALL FENCE AND HANDLE THE WIND LOAD AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO, UM, SO WE, WE'VE GOT A VARYING, UM, FENCE THERE IF WE NEED TO, IF, IF, IF WE GET TO THE, WHERE WE GET TO WHERE THE STAFF AND YOU TELL THE STAFF THAT WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT 10 FOOT, IT'S IN HERE.
BUT, UM, THERE'S TWO WAYS WE CAN GET TO THAT 10 FOOT.
WE CAN EITHER BUILD A 10 FOOT FENCE OR WE CAN BUILD A SMALL BERM BERM AND, AND, AND PUT A SEVEN FOOT FENCE ON TOP OF THAT AND YOU'LL BE 10 FEET TALL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS A LEAVE, UH, BE BE ABLE TO LEAVE MORE OF A, A NATURAL BUFFER THERE AND A NATURAL VEGETATION TO STAY THERE VERSUS, UM, TEARING SOME OF THAT DOWN TO BUILD A BERM.
'CAUSE IF YOU, A THREE FOOT, A THREE FOOT TALL BERM IS GONNA BE ABOUT 20 FEET IN WIDTH.
SO YOU, YOU'LL EAT UP SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT BUFFER.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE THERE ON THAT.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE THAT TO SITE REVIEW AND OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S FINE IN THIS CASE.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME AS YOU WERE EXPLAINING THE STORM WATER FLOW COMING DOWN HERE MM-HMM
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UM, THE WATER, THE STORM WATER THAT FLOWS INTO THE WETLANDS CANNOT CONTAIN ANY MORE, I'LL CALL 'EM CONTAMINANTS MM-HMM
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE, UM, ASCERTAIN THAT? SO AS FAR AS LIKE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE IN, IN, IN TYPE OF STORM WATER WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S FLOWING OFF OF PAVEMENT.
SO THE REASON WE USE, UH, HAVE HISTORICALLY ALWAYS USED A WET DETENTION POND IN THIS AREA IS BECAUSE WHEN IT FLOWS IN, IT COMES IN IN THE BOTTOM OF THAT POND.
AND THEN IT HAS TO HAVE, THE WATER HAS TO RISE BEFORE IT COMES UP AND THEN DISCHARGES OUT THAT, THAT DURING THAT TIME THAT THOSE, UH, PARTICLES AND, AND THINGS SETTLE TO THE BOTTOM.
I JUST HAVE ONE, ONE QUESTION.
THE CULVERTS THAT FEED BETWEEN THE PONDS INTO THE ROAD MM-HMM
IS THERE A REGULAR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE, INSPECTION SCHEDULE SET THAT THEY DO FOR THOSE? OR IS IT JUST KIND OF AS NEEDED? USUALLY IT'S AS NEEDED.
UM, BUT, UM, WE CAN WORK WITH THE STAFF IF WE NEED TO DETERMINE A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE OR WHATEVER AT THE TIME.
THE REASON I ASK THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE COME ALONG.
'CAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WITHOUT MAINTENANCE ON 'EM, THEY DO HAVE A TENDENCY TO FILL UP AROUND HERE.
WE HAVE A LOT OF, A LOT OF VEGETATION THAT CAN GET INTO OUR WATERS.
UH, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC AND WOULD ANYONE
[PUBLIC HEARING]
FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO COME FORWARD, ASK A QUESTION OR MAKE A COMMENT? HE'S TRYING TOSOMEBODY'S TRYING TO STEAL A CLICKER.
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ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC? ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.I I THINK THIS IS A, UH, A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF COUNCIL CHALLENGING WHAT'S PUT BEFORE THEM AND WORKING COOPERATIVELY WITH THE APPLICANT.
THIS IS A, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW THESE MEETINGS AND, AND THIS SHOULD WORK TOGETHER.
SO I'M, I'M PROUD OF BOTH MY COUNSEL AND, AND THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES? THIS IS SECOND MEETING OF ORDINANCE 2025 DASH OH TWO DASH OH SIX A.
WE APPROVE 2025 DASH ZERO TWO DASH ZERO SIX A.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.
THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US, FOR LISTENING TO, FOR LISTENING AND LOOKING TO FIX THOSE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE MAYOR SAID EARLIER, IT'S, IT'S AN EXAMPLE THAT YOU, THAT VERY FEW DEVELOPERS SET WHERE THEY ARE WILLING TO MEET AND MEET EVERYBODY HALFWAY KIND OF THING.
APPRECIATE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
I ALSO LIKE TO JUST TALK TO YOUR STAFF.
THEY, THEY, YOU KNOW, AT THIS THING IN A SHORT NOTICE, REVIEWED IT, UM, PROVIDED US INFORMATION BACK AND EVERYTHING.
AND SO THEY DID A GREAT JOB AS WELL.
SEE MY LEGOS PAID OFF A EVENTUALLY YOUR LEGOS PAID OFF.
I'M GOING RIGHT TO THE TOY STORE AFTER THIS.
NEXT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND THE ZONING FOR PARCEL
[A. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND THE ZONING FOR A PARCEL 029-45-11-014 CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 0.24 ACRES FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (SFR2-T3) DISTRICT TO DOWNTOWN MIXED USE (DMU-T5) DISTRICT AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (2025-03-06A)]
OH 29 DASH 45 DASH 11 DASH OH ONE FOUR CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 0.24 ACRES FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO DOWNTOWN MIXED USE DISTRICT AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDY.THIS IS ORDINANCE 2025 DASH OH THREE DASH OH SIX A.
THIS ITEM APPEARED BEFORE THE CITY'S PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR FEBRUARY MEETING.
UM, I'VE ASKED BRANDON TO COME UP AND KIND OF WALK US THROUGH WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD A PROPERTY COME FORWARD UNDER THE NEW TRANSECT ZONES THAT THE CITY ADOPTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
AND SO, UM, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET, UH, RE REFRESHED ABOUT WHAT THOSE MEAN, HOW THEY'RE APPLIED, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THAT.
AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO BRANDON TO HELP WA WALK US THROUGH THOSE.
UM, THANK YOU AND, UM, APPRECIATE BEING HERE AGAIN.
TRY TO, I'LL TRY TO HELP YOU THROUGH TRANSECT ZONES.
UM, IT IS THE MOST, DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY USED TO.
BUT, UM, IT IS, THE CONCEPT IS TO GET US THROUGH THE WHITE HEART BOULEVARD MASTER PLAN AND TO CREATE A DOWNTOWN AREA, A LIVABLE WALKING, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA.
SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE GOAL.
UM, THE, THE PROJECT DETAIL IS THAT IT IS JASPER COUNTY NEIGHBORS UNITED THAT HAS THE, THE, UH, LOCATION ON THE CORNER OF SAS COURT AND, UM, MAIN STREET.
UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
UH, THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THIS SECOND PROPERTY.
THE, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
UM, AND SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER IT WAS THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY PROPERTY AT, AT ONE POINT IN TIME, BUT IT IS THE SECOND PROPERTY, THE FRONT PROPERTY THAT'S THE, WHERE THE OFFICE CURRENTLY LO IS LOCATED.
LOCATED IS ZONED, UM, DOWNTOWN MIXED USE AND IS IN THE T FIVE TRANSECT ZONE.
UM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE CURRENT LOT IN YELLOW THERE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO WHICH IS A T THREE TRANSECT ZONE, UM, FROM THE MZDO ABOUT THE T THREE ZONE.
THE T THREE ZONE IS, IS FOR PRIMARILY FOR INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE A DIVERSITY TO ACCOMMODATE DIVERSITY WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN, INCLUDING SMALL LOT DETACHED HOMES, TOWN HOMES AND SMALL APARTMENTS.
ZONE IS WALKABLE AND SERVES AS A TRANSITION ZONE BETWEEN TOWN CENTERS, MORE INTENSIVE USES AND THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLE OF A PICTURE OF WHAT IS THE ORDINANCE HAS.
UM, THIS IS THE, THE BACK OF THE OFFICE FOR JCNU AS WELL AS, UM, THE MAIN, THE UN UNDEVELOPED LOT CURRENTLY.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ANOTHER ANGLE OF THE UNDEVELOPED LOT AS WELL AS, UM, THE
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NEIGHBORING PROPERTY THAT RE FRONTS ON MAIN STREET.AND THAT IS A VIEW OF WHAT IS FURTHER BEHIND, FURTHER DOWN SAS COURT, WHICH IS A CUL-DE-SAC SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
UM, AND THAT'S THE VIEW FROM MAIN STREET.
THE T FIVE ZONE TOWN CENTER ZONE, UM, IS INTENDED TO BECOME THE URBAN HUB OF DOWNTOWN HARDY WITH MORE DENSITY INTENSITY THAN OTHER AREAS.
THIS WILL BE A MIX OF USES WITH COMMERCIAL LOCATED ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR OFFICES AND OR RESIDENTIAL ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
UM, IT IS A MIXED USE DISTRICT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND FOR, UM, COMMERCIAL USES.
THE ZONE PROVIDES A WALKABLE EXPERIENCE WITH SAFE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU, WE KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER, BUT THE TRANSECT ZONE DOES WANT TO CREATE THAT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD OR PEDE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRANSECT ZONES TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE WHAT'S INTENSE AND IT WALKS DOWN OR WALKS DOWN IN INTENSITY TO, UM, MORE RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, WHITE HARD BOULEVARD MASTER PLAN.
THIS JUST SHOWED THE AREA THAT THIS IS THE, THE PROPERTY THAT IS IN THE TRANSECT ZONE.
UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANALYSIS, LAND USE ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR INFILL HOUSING ALONG MAIN STREET AND REPURPOSING EXISTING STRUCTURES FOR HIGHER COMMERCIAL USE.
HOUSING ELEMENT NEEDS A GREATER SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING OPTIONS AND A NEED FOR A VA OF VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES.
UH, DENSITY ALIGNS WITH THE WHITE HARDY BOULEVARD RELAPSE REVITALIZATION AND, UM, DEVELOP MAY ENCOURAGE ATTAINABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.
UM, THE PROCESS DID GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL AND WE'RE HERE.
UM, THIS IS A STREET ZONING DISTRICT.
IT'S NOT ASKING FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A SITE PLAN OR A MASTER PLAN.
UM, BUT THE ZONING DISTRICT ISN'T, I MEAN, THEY WILL HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING IN KEEPING WITH THAT ZONING DISTRICT THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
PLANNING COMMISSION DOES RE DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UM, THAT WAS BASED, THAT WAS DONE ON FEBRUARY THE 12TH.
AND WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
BRIANNA, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD? I'M JUST PUT THAT BACK FOR YOU.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS SHEDRICK COLEMAN, UH, PRINCIPAL OF SHED ARCHITECTURE.
UH, I'M THE ARCHITECT WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, OUR CIVIL ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AND WITH YOUR FINE PLANNING STAFF TO TRY AND WORK THROUGH THIS.
WE'VE SPENT 18 MONTHS, UH, WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, WHEN WE STARTED IT, IT WAS BEFORE THE ACTUAL NEW ZONING HAD BEEN ADOPTED, SO WE MODIFIED OUR PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE IT.
I THINK THAT THE CHANGE ON YOUR PART OF, OF CREATING THESE T FIVE AND T THREE ZONING DISTRICTS WAS A GREAT MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO UNIFY AND, AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE A MORE, UH, COHESIVE DOWNTOWN PLAN.
AND WE ARE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE INITIAL PLANNING THERE.
I WILL ADD THAT OUR PROPERTY IS AT THE VERY END OF THE T FIVE DISTRICT THAT WOULD BE LOCATED THERE.
SO IT WILL BE A CATALYST AND A AND A AND BASICALLY A START OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL COULD BE ON THE PROJECT.
SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE.
UM, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING WITH MRS. GUZMAN.
UM, ARE THERE ANY DRAWINGS? DO YOU HAVE ANY DRAWINGS OF WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE? UH, WE HAVE STARTED THE DESIGN DRAWINGS ON IT, BUT BECAUSE THIS WAS JUST BASICALLY A, A REZONING, WE HAVEN'T, UH, BROUGHT THOSE FORMALLY TO IT.
I, I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN THOSE TO THE PLANNING, UH, DEPARTMENT.
I, IF THEY HAVE 'EM, I GUESS THEY COULD PUT 'EM UP ON THE BOARD.
BUT IT WILL BE A, THE, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING IS A OFFICE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNITED ON THE GROUND FLOOR, THE BUILDING AND FOUR UNITS OF, OF FOR SALE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE.
AND ON THE BACK OF THE LOT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO PROVIDE DUPLEXES THAT WILL BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THAT BUILDING AND THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WORK IN ATE WHAT A T THREE WOULD ACTUALLY DO.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO STILL CREATE THE BUFFER THAT WOULD BE THERE, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH T THREE PLANNING AND THOSE, AND THOSE DUPLEXES HAVEN'T BEEN DESIGNED AT ALL, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THERE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS,
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MR. MESMAN.UM, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT RESOLVING, THESE ARE JUST SOME REQUESTS THAT I HAVE.
AND TED, YOU AND I HAVE WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE KEEPING WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH, UH, THE OLD CITY HALL.
PLEASE, IN YOUR DESIGN, DESIGN SOMETHING IN A MORE OF A TRADITIONAL WAY THAT WILL FIT WITH WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO KEEP THIS LOW COUNTRY, UH, VIBE THAT, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
YOU KNOW, PLEASE CONSIDER THAT, UM, YOUR, THE DUPLEXES YOU'RE GONNA BUILD BEHIND.
PLEASE CONSIDER MAYBE PARTNERING WITH SOMEBODY TO KEEP THOSE AT AN AFFORDABLE, UH, ATTAINABLE, UH, RATE.
HARVEY PLACE HAS BEEN AN, UH, GREAT SUCCESS.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT CONTINUED WITHIN OUR DOWNTOWN.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE THAT.
UM, I KNOW WHEN WE SAW THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS THAT WE WERE TALKING, TED YOU WERE THINKING OF OFFICE SPACE FOR OTHER NOT-FOR-PROFITS ON THE LOWER FLOOR.
IS THAT STILL WITHIN, THAT'S STILL A POSSIBILITY, YES.
IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE, PLEASE PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING FOR, FOR WHAT YOU CARE TO DO.
WE, WITH OUR PLANS FOR ON MAIN STREET THERE, MOVING AHEAD WITH POSSIBLE, UH, SPLASH PAD AND A VETERANS PARK.
IT'S GONNA BE A VERY LIVELY AREA DOWN THERE.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE DESIGNING AND DESIRING TO DO, THERE IS GONNA BE A GOOD ASSET TO IT.
SO SURPRISE US WITH A GREAT DESIGN, PLEASE.
OH, I'LL SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT YOU WILL GET A GREAT DESIGN OUT OF ME.
I AM A, A RESIDENT OF THIS AREA.
I'VE BEEN PRACTICING ARCHITECTURE HERE IN THIS AREA FOR 35 YEARS.
NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE BLUFFING AREA OVER THE YEARS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LOW COUNTRY IS AND THIS IS MY HOME.
AND BECAUSE I'VE GROWN UP HERE AND SEEN ALL THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED THROUGH HARDY V UH, FROM BEFORE 95 WITHIN HERE AND ALL THE REST, THIS IS JUST AS MUCH AN IMPORTANT THING FOR ME AS WELL BECAUSE I, I'LL PASS THROUGH HERE ALL THE TIME.
I HAVE GUESS BRIAN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? I WANNA ADD THAT THE REASON THAT THEY'RE COMBINING THESE PARCELS AND HAVING TO REZONE THAT BACK PARCEL IS TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING AND THE COHESIVENESS OF EVERYTHING.
SO IT WAS, THEY COULD HAVE BUILT ON THE DUPLEXES ON THAT BACK LOT AND A BUILDING ON THE FRONT, BUT THEY WOULD, UM, LOSE SOME OF THAT CHARACTER AND NOT HAVE THE AMPLE PARKING THAT WE WILL HAVE WITH US.
SO, UM, BRIANNA, THIS IS NOT A PDD.
AND SO IF WE APPROVE THIS, THEN IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.
IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THEY, THEY STILL WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER TO EVERYTHING IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ANY OF OUR OTHER ORDINANCE AND REGULATIONS.
UM, AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SITE, A SITE REVIEW PROCESS WITH STAFF AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.
SO, AND HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING.
IF COUNCIL APPROVES THIS, WE HAVE NO MORE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO BUILD THERE.
WE DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ENOUGH PARKING.
WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD NORMALLY GIVE TO ANY PRODUCT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME, IS THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE AN APPROVAL AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE SAY.
WELL, I'LL SPEAK TO, AS WITH REFERENCE THE ZONING, UH, MANUAL FOR THESE DISTRICTS.
IT'S VERY CONCISE AS TO WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE RELATIVE TO THE PARKING AND MEETING THOSE THINGS AS WELL AS THE CHARACTER OF THE ARCHITECTURE THAT WE HAVE SOME DEFINED GOALS AND WE DO HAVE TO BRING THAT TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THEM TO REVIEW IT.
AND I'M SURE THAT WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM COMMUNICATING THAT TO THIS BOARD.
WE, WE'D BE HAPPY FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT FROM OUR STANDPOINT THAT THAT'S HAVING THAT REVIEWED BY YOU FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR US.
WE ARE, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO A GOOD JOB.
SO YEAH, WE DON'T, MY MY POINT IS THIS, SIR.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT MY CONCERN IS IS, AND I KNOW THE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL, UH, ADHERE TO THE MCDO AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE CON CONCERNS.
WE WANT IT TO LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING.
SO WE'RE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE NOT GIVEN ALL THE FINAL DETAILS TO APPROVE.
IT'S TAKEN OUT OF OUR HAND AND IT GO TO STAFF.
NOT THAT I DISTRUST STAFF AND, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE THEY HAVE, BUT THEY HAVE TO DO THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
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EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO.I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE SEEN WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO BEFORE WE SAY YES.
WE'RE JUST BEING ASKED TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
AND, AND SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BY SAYING YES, WE'RE GIVING UP FINAL APPROVAL.
NOW, IF COUNCIL'S FINE WITH THAT, THE STAFF'S FINE WITH THAT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I'M A LITTLE UNEASY ABOUT IT, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
UM, SO, UM, THE, I WAS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO WHAT I'VE HEARD.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE I'M NOT SURE I FULLY DO.
WHAT ARE THE OBJECTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORS? UH, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO AT THIS POINT BEFORE I I GO ON TO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONING IS I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND GO TO THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS, OF THIS HEARING AND ASK WHOEVER WANTS TO, UM, GIVE, UM, TO, UH, COMMENT OR ASK THE QUESTION THEY COME FORWARD.
AT THIS TIME I WOULD ONLY ASK BECAUSE I WAS HERE, PLEASE TRY TO LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR OBJECTIONS ARE.
SO WE, WE, THE COUNCIL UNDERSTAND THEM.
SO, UH, AT THIS TIME, WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?
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COUNCIL, HOW ARE Y'ALL? PLEASE, UH, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD.I'M JONATHAN BULLARD LIVE AT AND MAKE SURE YOU, UH, IN HERE.
SO, SO IT GOES ON THE RECORDING.
I LIVE AT ONE OH FIVE SAULS COURT.
I'M BORN AND RAISED IN HARVILLE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN TOWN'S NAMED AFTER MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER.
UH, ALL OF MY FAMILY IS FROM HERE.
I'VE LIVED ON SAUL'S COURT FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
UM, I, I PURCHASED THE HOME THAT I LIVE IN NOW FROM MY DAD.
SO I WAS RAISED ON SAUL'S COURT.
UH, AND WHERE SIR? I, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
WHICH, WHICH HOME IS YOURS? CAN WE PUT IT, UH, UH, SO THE THIRD LOT WOULD BE MINE.
UH, IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE, THE ONE THAT'S, UH, TRYING TO BE REZONED.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE FIRST HOUSE AFTER THAT SMALL CLUMP OF TREES THAT WE SAW IN THE OTHER PICTURE? YES.
THIS IS THE LOT THAT'S GOING FOR THE REZONING.
UM, I LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY ABOUT SEEING THINGS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT GETS APPROVED.
'CAUSE ONCE IT GETS APPROVED, WHOSE HANDS IS IT IN? UM, IF YOU COM IF YOU COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE LOTS TOGETHER, IT'S UNDER HALF AN ACRE.
UM, THAT IS NOT A LOT OF SPACE FOR SETBACKS.
VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SETBACKS OF, UH, EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GROWN ACCUSTOMED TO A WAY ON SAUL'S COURT.
UH, THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE IN HERE THAT HAVE LIVED IN SAUL'S COURT FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN RAISED THERE.
I HAVE A KID, I WANNA RAISE HER THERE.
UM, BUT SETBACKS, PARKING, YOU KNOW, PARKING IS, IS HUGE.
THERE IS, THERE IS NOT MUCH FOR PARKING AS IT IS FOR THE RESIDENT RESIDENTIAL HOUSINGS THERE.
NOW I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WHAT SETBACKS WOULD YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAXIMUM SETBACKS.
I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIGHTS THAT WEREN'T THERE BEFORE.
UM, MY DAUGHTER'S BEDROOM'S ON THAT SIDE, WHICH IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THIS SIDE, MY BEDROOM'S ON THIS SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIGHTS AND NOISES THAT, THAT HAVEN'T BEEN THERE.
UM, SO MAXIMUM SETBACK, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT IS A CUL-DE-SAC.
SO TRAFFIC CAN'T JUST GO DOWN AND GO OUT, THEY GO DOWN, TURN AROUND AND COME BACK OUT.
SO THAT SAME VEHICLE IS NOT ONLY PASSING ONCE, IT'S PASSING TWICE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE ON WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED TO BE BUILT.
UM, UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE TALKS OF REPURPOSING THAT EXISTING BUILDING THAT'S ON THE, THE LOT THAT IS ALREADY ZONED DOWNTOWN MIXED USE.
I'M, I'M NOT AGAINST ANYTHING HAPPENING ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, MORE OF MY CONCERN IS WHAT CAN HAPPEN IF YOU COMBINE THOSE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO THIS, WHAT STOPS ME FROM BULLDOZING MY HOUSE AND REQUESTING DOWNTOWN MIXED USE.
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IS THE ONLY LOT THAT IS LEFT IN THIS ALL SUBDIVISION.IT'S NOT A FAILING SUBDIVISION.
IT'S A, IT'S A COMMUNITY AND WE'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE.
SO SIR, UM, IF WE SAY WE ARE NOT GONNA CHANGE THE ZONING, WHAT CAN BRIAN, WHAT CAN GO THERE? A HOME, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOME, OR A DUPLEX? UM, THOSE DUPLEXES ARE ALLOWED ON THAT LOT AS WELL.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTY CURRENTLY.
BUT I, YOU KNOW, WITH IT BEING THE ONLY LOT LEFT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, WHICH IS WHAT IS LISTED AT RIGHT NOW.
SO, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M NOT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE END RESULT.
IF THIS IS ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY, WE, WE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS.
UM, COULD A, THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS PROBABLY TWO STORIES, IS THAT CORRECT? THREE, ONCE YOU ADD THE, THE ROOF LINE, I MEAN, WELL, TWO LIVABLE STORYS.
IF THIS STAYS RESIDENTIAL, COULD THE SAME HEIGHT ALSO BE BUILT THERE? BRIANNA, I APOLOGIZE IF, IF WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING, COULD A TWO LIVABLE PLUS ROOF, UM, STRUCTURE, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE BE BUILT THERE? UH, TWO YOU MEAN A DUPLEX, BRIANNA, WHAT ARE THE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING HEIGHT? UM, IT IS IN THAT AREA, I THINK, I WANNA SAY IT IS 35 FEET.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT A TWO STORY HOME IS TYPICALLY WHAT'S ON TWO STORY HOME.
AND IF WE CHANGE IT, HOW HIGH CAN IT GO? I DO NOT KNOW THE, THAT IT'S ANY DIFFERENT IN THAT AREA.
UM, SEE THAT IT'S NOT GONNA GO AND THAT THERE'S, THAT I DO NOT KNOW WHERE I, I JUST HAVEN'T, IT MAKES ME UNCOM HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE DETAILS OF THAT.
UM, AND IT, BUT IT'S, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL U DENTAL UNITS THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT ON THE, THE BACK LOT WOULD BEDU DUPLEXES, WHICH WOULD BE A, A TWO STORY PO POTENTIAL HOUSE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE REASON FOR THE ZONING CHANGE AND THE REQUEST IS NOT TO PUT COMMERCIAL BACK THERE OR ANYTHING OBTRUSIVE.
IT IS TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR THE PARKING AND THE BUILDING ON THE FRONT.
SEE, BUT, AND THEN THIS GOES BACK TO MY INITIAL CONCERN IS WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, I DON'T KNOW, THESE ARE WORDS THAT MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE.
AND UNTIL I DO KNOW, AND I'M, I'M, I'M SOMEWHAT SYMPATHETIC AND I I HAVE THE ORDINANCE AGAIN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PUTTING DUPLEX BACK THERE.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT'S THE PARKING? HOW HIGH, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTIONS? ARE WE GOING SO THAT THERE IS NOT A LIGHT SHINING INTO THAT YOUNG, THAT BABY'S BEDROOM? I DON'T, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.
I'VE HEARD WHAT HE, THIS GENTLEMAN HAS TO SAY.
AND I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT VERY THING.
MAYOR, AS FAR AS THE LIGHT, I SAY ONE, ONE THING ABOUT THE LIGHT, WE DO NOT ALLOW LIGHT POLLUTION.
THAT IS ONE THING THAT I, I CAN SAY THAT OUR ORDINANCE WILL NOT ALLOW US TO APPROVE.
SO THAT IS ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU.
SO IF IT'S, IF IT IS A JOSH, IF THIS IS A, UM, IS A, A PLAN TO BE A DUPLEX? YES, SIR.
IF WE CHANGE THE ZONING AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S A, A, YOU KNOW, A STORE THAT'S OPEN UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AGAIN, THAT'S ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S OUT OF OUR HANDS.
THE ZONING'S THERE, THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
AND DOES A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT OKAY.
SO GIMME A MINUTE TO, TO RESPOND HERE.
ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, THE ANSWERS CAN BE FOUND WITHIN THE MZDO.
SO THE T THREE TRANSACT ZONE AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO IT ARE OUTLINED THERE.
SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
SO I, I KNOW BRANDON DOESN'T HAVE IT MEMORIZED, BUT WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT WE CAN GO TO AND WE CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS THIS EVENING, OR WE CAN PREPARE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW AND PROVIDE THAT AT A, A FUTURE MEETING.
BUT THAT INFORMATION IS KNOWN BASED UPON IF YOU GRANT THE REZONING THAN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE FIXED WITHIN YOUR CODE AS TO WHAT IS APPLICABLE.
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THE HEIGHT, THE LIGHT, THE LAYOUT, THE PARKING, WE KNOW THOSE ANSWERS WE CAN PROVIDE THEM AND WE CAN EITHER DO IT THIS EVENING OR WE CAN DO IT AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T COME BACK, BUT IT'S NOT A THREE-WAY CONVERSATION.
BUT, SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL DISCUSS IT FURTHER AND THEN, UH, ONCE YOU HEAR MORE INFORMATION, UH, I'LL, I'LL WELCOME YOU BACK UP, MR. MAYOR, I HAVE, IF I CAN ASK ONE QUESTION, THE FRONT LOT, UM, CURRENTLY, WHAT'S IT ZONED? IT IS THE, UM, DOWNTOWN MIXED USE WITH THE T FIVE TRANS ON IT.
WHAT'S THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THAT? I JUST PULLED IT UP, UM, AND I POPPED, SO I DIDN'T HAVE THIS OPEN BEFORE.
UM, THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THAT IS THREE STORIES.
SO WE'RE TALKING POSSIBLY 45 FEET IN HEIGHT.
45 TO 50 FEET, FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND IT'S ALREADY, THEY COULD PUT THERE TOMORROW THEN CORRECT? ON THE FRONT PARTS.
UH, BUT IF WE CHANGE IT TO MATCH, THEN THEY COULD PUT A THREE FOUR STORY BUILDING UP THERE.
THREE STORY, NOT A FOUR STORY, BUT LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE CON SO THE FRONT PARCEL THAT'S ALREADY T FIVE YEAH.
IT'S THE BACK PARCEL THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO REZONE TO T THREE.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE THE 45 FEET.
TO BE ABLE TO SH TO DROP THAT LOT LINE AND SHARE THE PARKING AND BE ABLE TO WORK ON THIS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO MAKE IT WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING IT TO BE.
I THINK WE COULD DEBATE THIS ALL NIGHT, BUT I THINK MAYBE A WORKSHOP WOULD WORK THIS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
IT WOULD GIVE YOU GENTLEMEN SOME TIME TO BRING US A DESIGN, SOMETHING THAT IT'S HARD FOR US TO MAKE THIS DECISION BASED ON, I DON'T WANNA SAY CONJECTURE.
I I TRUST THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD A GREAT PRODUCT, BUT I HAVE TO SHARE THESE FOLKS CONCERNS TOO FOR THE LIGHT POLLUTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THERE MAY BE AN ANSWER HERE SOMEWHERE, BUT WE CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT TONIGHT.
WE HAVE NOTHING, NO DRAWINGS TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HEIGHT OF EVERYTHING DEFINITELY IS GOING TO BE, WHAT THE PARKING IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
BRING US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN MAKE A, UH, AN EDUCATED DECISION ON, ON THE, THE DIRECTION.
WITH THIS, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, AND I'D LIKE TO ADD ON TO WHAT MR. MESMAN SAID.
I DON'T WANT A THREE STORY BUILDING BEHIND THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL COME DOWN HERE AND SIT ON THEIR SIDE.
BUT IF I GIVE YOU THE ZONING, THEN YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND AND DO IT.
AND I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
I, YOU, I DO NOT WANT TO, UH, ALLOW, THIS IS ME ONE VOTE.
I DON'T WANNA ALLOW SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE CAN CHANGE WITHOUT COMING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.
AND, AND THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
AND I, IT'S NOT, I KNOW TED FOR 10 YEARS NOW, I'M HERE.
I KNOW HE IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
BUT THIS COULD TAKE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND I'LL BE DEAD.
AND NOW IT'S OUT OF, IT'S OUTTA MY HANDS.
AND, AND, AND WE HAVE TO, WE, WE WERE TALKING, THIS COUNCIL WAS TALKING, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER AT A, AT A GROUNDBREAKING, WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT WE WILL PROBABLY NEVER SEE THE RESULTS OF.
WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE, NOT FOR NEXT WEEK.
AND THAT'S WHY, SIR, AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE, BUT, UM, I THINK, UH, WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE ANSWERS.
MR. MAYOR, I, I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I SERVED ON THE PLANNING BOARD IN SAVANNAH, CHATHAM FOR 13 YEARS.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH COMING BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
I DO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR TO, TO THE PERSONS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT OUR CHANGE OF THIS IS TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW WITH THE T THREE IN THE BACK AND THE T FIVE AT THE FRONT.
AND THERE'S NO PLAN FOR A THREE STORY BUILDING.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW, THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN WITH TED.
BUT WE CAN DO A SMALLER BUILDING ON THE FRONT, THIS T FIVE, AND DO THE TOWNHOUSES AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE BACK T THREE RIGHT NOW.
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY BASED ON YOUR ZONING, THOSE THINGS COULD HAPPEN WITHOUT COMING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AT ALL.
WE ARE ACTUALLY GIVING YOU A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO BE ENGAGED IN IT BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO HARM THE NEIGHBORS.
I THINK BECAUSE TED LIVES HERE AND HE HAS A RELATIONSHIP THAT HE NEEDS TO MAINTAIN, THAT WE ARE GONNA DO WHAT'S NECESSARY FOR A WORKSHOP.
WE'RE MORE HAPPY, MORE THAN HAPPY.
WE ARE FAR ENOUGH INTO THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE NOT
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GONNA THROW ANY SURPRISES.WE'D LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, SIR.
AND, AND AGAIN, I I WANNA EMPHASIZE ONE THING.
A LOT OF THINGS CHANGE IN THREE YEARS, IN FOUR YEARS, IN FIVE YEARS, I'M SURE THAT YOUR INTENTION IS NOT THAT YOU WANT A PARKING, AND YOU, YOU DON'T WANNA BUILD A THREE STORY BUILDING.
BUT ONCE WE GIVE THIS APPROVAL, YOU SELL THIS PROPERTY AND SOMEBODY COMES IN AND THEY NOW HAVE THE ZONING, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT PRIVY TO THIS CONVERSATION OR THESE AGREEMENTS.
SO WE HAVE TO PUT IN WHATEVER WE PUT IN, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, WHETHER IT'S YOU, IT'S TED OR IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE IN 2, 3, 4, 5 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT THEY DON'T DO THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T WANT 'EM TO DO.
AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I, I APPLAUD MR. MANN'S SUGGESTION.
LET'S, LET'S SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND I WANNA SEE FROM OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ADMINISTRATION, HOW DO WE SAFEGUARD THAT WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE, THE FUTURE IS HELD TO IT.
WHATEVER INTENTIONS ARE THAT THE FUTURE IS HELD TO IT.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME, SIR? I, I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A PAIN IN THE NECK.
AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING, TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO SAT AND UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO I'M NOT ARGUMENTATIVE AT ALL.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT MY EXPERIENCE OF 13 YEARS OF IT GOING THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON APPROVING THINGS FROM ZONING, IT IS, IT IS A CATCH 22 SITUATION THAT THE ZONING, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GUARANTEED WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NEVER GONNA GET PAST UNLESS YOU'RE ABLE TO TIE THESE TO THE FRONT.
AND IT'S HARD AS A, AS A DESIGNER OR AN OWNER TO COMMIT TO DOING FULL DESIGNS BEFORE YOU HAVE A ZONING APPROVAL.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST A, A ROUGH SITUATION ON THE WAY THINGS GO.
BUT WE ARE, WE ARE, WE'RE ON BOARD WITH YOU AND WOULD LOVE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY WORKSHOP.
AND SO I'M GONNA, I WANNA PUT THE CHALLENGE NOT ONLY TO YOU AND TED, AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S GOT A HEART GOAL.
SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T QUESTION THAT, BUT HOW DO WE, AND THIS IS NOT A QUESTION YOU ANSWER, JOSH, MR. GRUBER.
BRIANA, HOW DO WE WRITE IN SAFEGUARDS IF WE APPROVE THIS ZONING? HOW DO WE WRITE IN SAFEGUARDS THAT, BECAUSE THE ZONING GOES WITH THE, WITH THE OWNER MM-HMM
HOW DO WE PUT IN SAFEGUARDS SO THAT WHAT TED'S INTENTIONS ARE, THEY BE HELD TO THE FUTURE.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW DO YOU DO THAT LEGALLY, BUT THAT'S A CHALLENGE THAT YOU HAVE.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE IF WE'RE HEADED TOWARDS A WORKSHOP, WE WILL BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT AT THAT WORKSHOP.
I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
RENA, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT SETBACK ALONG MAIN STREET FOR THE PROPERTIES? THE, THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY WERE BUILT UNDER PREVIOUS ORDINANCE.
I WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE FIRST.
AND LET ME FIND, I CLOSED THE, THE COURSE, I CLOSED IT RIGHT WHEN, JUST THE REASON I ASK, IT'S JUST FOR SPATIAL PLACEMENT ON THE TWO PROPERTIES.
I MEAN, IF THE MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS MAIN STREET MOVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT, THAT IS THE INTENTION IS, UH, TO PULL, PUT THE OFFICE BUILDING CLOSER TO MAIN, CLOSER TO MAIN STREET WITH THE PARKING BETWEEN THAT AND THE DUPLEX.
AND THE DUPLEX WOULD BE THAT BACK BOUNDARY CLOSEST TO, UM, THIS GENTLEMAN'S HOUSE.
SO, SO IT WOULD BE, THE PARKING WOULD BE INTERIOR TO THE LOT.
UM, WE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
AND BEFORE, UM, UM, SAID, UH, I KNOW HE MENTIONED WE HAD SEEN SOME DRAFTS.
WE DON'T KEEP ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WHEN THEY'RE SHOWED TO US, THIS WAS, THEY WERE SHOWN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S THEIR SUBMITTAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UM, BUT THE SETBACK, I'M LOOKING AT THE USES THIS FRONT SETBACK IN T FIVE IS, UM, 10 FEET MAXIMUM, FIVE FEET MINIMUM.
SO YOU'RE PULLING IT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE STREET SIMILAR TO HOW THE LIBRARY IS BUILT.
SO THAT WOULD MOVE THE EXISTING A NEW BUILDING THERE WAY UP, WHICH LENDS MORE SPACE FOR PARKING AND STUFF IN BETWEEN.
AND WE DISCUSSED IT IN THE PREVIOUS ONE BEFORE.
HOW ALL THIS IS LOCATED ON THE LOTS COULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ON WHETHER YOU'LL GET MY APPROVAL OR NOT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS SAYING.
I WOULDN'T WANT THOSE, THE, THE LIGHTS OR THE NOISE IN MY WINDOW.
YOU KNOW, CONSIDER WHERE YOUR PARKING IS.
WHAT, WHAT AVAILABLE OPTIONS ARE YOU ALL GONNA HAVE TO GET THIS TO PASS? I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL LOOKS AT.
I I DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT 10 FEET SETBACK CHANGES
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WITH THAT, THAT MOVES THE EXISTING BUILDING.IF IT WAS THERE, IT WOULD MOVE IT ALMOST ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SIDEWALK.
AND, AND WE WILL ALSO DETAIL THE, UM, DIFFERENCE IN THE USES ALLOWED IN T THREE AND T FIVE FOR YOU FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE WORKSHOP.
SO YOU HAVE EVERY, ALL THAT INFORMATION.
UM, BUT WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT'S, THAT'S SPELLED OUT CLEARLY.
AND BRIAN, ONE, ONE OTHER QUESTION.
IF LET'S SAY WE, THERE'S A PARKING LOT MM-HMM
WE'VE GOT US AWARE IT IS, DO WE HAVE, UH, LAWS OR RULES GOVERNING AMBIENT LIGHTING? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE TO BE, NO, NO HIGHER THAN YOU.
WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS LIGHTING.
THE PARKING LOT HAS TO COME DOWN AND NO LIGHT POLLUTION OFF THE SITE AT ALL.
UM, SIR, MAY I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, AND THIS IS A QUESTION I DON'T WANT YOU TO ANSWER.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA GO TO A WORKSHOP, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT IT.
AND THEN YOU COME BACK TO A WORKSHOP AND YOU TELL ME THE ANSWER, WHAT IT IS, WHAT WOULD BE WHAT IN THAT LOT, WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO BE BUILT THERE THAT YOU COULD LIVE WITH? OKAY.
UN AND UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS? NOW WHEN I SAY WHAT CONDITIONS DO YOU NEED, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PLANT, THE A HUNDRED FOOT TREE.
OKAY? SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT, AND IF THIS COUNCIL DOES VOTE THE TABLE IN, IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, IN A WORKSHOP, I'D LIKE YOU TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.
I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES OR ANY, UM, SUGGESTIONS FOR WORKSHOPS, UM, TO ORDINANCE 2025 DASH OH THREE DASH OH SIX A.
MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A WORKSHOP ON 2025 DASH OH THREE DASH OH SIX A PRIOR TO REPRESENATION FOR FIRST READING.
SO, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN MESMAN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT, UH, A MOTION TO TABLE TO DATE SPECIFIC.
YOUR, UH, UPCOMING COUNCIL MEETINGS, UM, WOULD BE APRIL 3RD, APRIL 17TH AND YET MAY 1ST I, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW FOR TIME, UH, STEVE, FOR US TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP IN BETWEEN.
THIS IS WHERE I'M QUESTIONING.
I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IT OUT AT LEAST A MONTH.
THAT WOULD GIVE THESE GENTLEMEN A TIME TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN.
IS THAT SOMETHING WORKABLE? YES.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TABLE THIS UNTIL APRIL 17TH MEETING.
WHAT, WHAT PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER THE, THE FIRST MEETING IN APRIL IS APRIL 3RD AND APRIL 17TH.
SO, UH, STEVE, ONE MONTH OUT IS APRIL 3RD.
APRIL 17TH IS, IS, UH, YES, SIR.
BUT WE STILL HAVE A MEETING THERE.
THE WEEKEND IS RIGHT, BUT I MEAN, WE ST REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S HOLIDAY, WE HAVE A MEETING ON.
SO YOUR, YOUR, UH, MOTION TO DATE SPECIFIC HAS TO, CAN BE EITHER ONE MONTH, WHICH WOULD BE APRIL 3RD OR THE 17TH.
WERE SIX WEEKS, WHICH WOULD BE THE 17TH.
THIS IS, I'M GIVING THEM THE BENEFIT OF THE TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE 17TH BECAUSE I WILL BE IN TEXAS THAT WHOLE WEEK OF THE THIRD.
UM, SO, AND I OWN BUSINESS AND I CAN'T CHANGE THAT.
THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, TABLE THIS TILL THE 17TH OF APRIL AND SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP, PUBLIC WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THAT AND THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP AT A TIME WHEN IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND THE PUBLIC TO COME.
ADDITION TO THAT, I, WE, WE NEED TO DO THIS WHERE YOU FOLKS WORK.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL
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OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE.I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE APPLICANTS WHO ARE WILLING TO LISTEN AND TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A GOOD ANSWER AND A GOOD SOLUTION THAT BENEFITS EVERYBODY.
SO, MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE APPLICANT, MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT AND LETTING US KNOW YOUR CONCERN AND MY COMPLIMENTS TO COUNSEL FOR RESPONDING TO BOTH OF YOU.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A BIGGER TABLE WITH ALL THESE TABLES WE'VE DONE.
RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNCIL
[B. RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, CITY COUNCIL SETTING IMMEDIATE, SHORT AND LONG-TERM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR 2025 AND BEYOND, WHILE DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO FOCUS THE CITY’S RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THE STATED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES (2025-03-06B)]
SETTING, IMMEDIATE, SHORT AND LONG TERM GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR 2025 AND BEYOND, WHILE DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO FOCUS THE CITY'S RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH THE STATED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.THIS IS RESOLUTION 2025 DASH THREE DASH SIX B.
IF, IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, THE PURPOSE OF A STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO
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REALLY SET FORTH THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES OF AN ORGANIZATION AND FORMULATE WHAT BECOMES A WORKABLE PLAN ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT TAKING ACTIONS TO TRY AND ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES.AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD DO ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND SO YOU SIT DOWN FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, YOU IDENTIFY WHAT YOU WANNA ACCOMPLISH, HOW YOU WANNA GO ABOUT ACCOMPLISHING THAT, AND THEN YOU FORMALIZE THAT INTO A STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND SO, UM, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UM, IN JANUARY, WE HELD A WORKSHOP WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES WERE FOR THE CITY FOR THIS NEXT COMING YEAR.
UM, THAT INFORMATION'S BEFORE YOU, NEIL HAS BEEN WORKING TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION INCORPORATED INTO, UH, AN UPDATE OF YOUR PREVIOUS STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND ALSO AT THIS POINT, KIND OF A, A REWRITE TO STREAMLINE IT, MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.
AND SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO NEIL IN JUST A SECOND TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.
BUT IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UM, WE ALSO WANTED TO ATTACH TO IT OUR PRIORITY LIST FROM OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMS. AND SO, AGAIN, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND SO AN ADDITIONAL DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE IS, IS CALLED A GANTT SHEET.
AND, AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT REALLY KIND OF SETS FORTH YOUR CRITICAL PATH ON WHAT THE STEPS ARE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ENGAGE UPON TO ACCOMPLISH A PARTICULAR, UH, CAPITAL PROJECT.
AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO NEIL TO KIND OF WALK US THROUGH THAT, AND THEN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
AS, UH, MR. GRUBER HAD INDICATED THE, THE, OUR STRATEGIC ANNUAL RETREAT TOOK PLACE JANUARY 27TH.
AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING, WE DID COME OUTTA THAT MEETING AND, AND KIND OF REWORKED OUR ORIGINAL GOALS INTO FIVE, FIVE GOALS.
WE, AND WE HAVE THOSE POSTED ON THE BOARD, UH, FOR THE GO PUBLIC AND STUFF.
I, I'LL ACTUALLY READ THESE FIVE GOALS.
IT'S, UH, DELIVER SUPERIOR PUBLIC SERVICES EFFECTIVELY AND ETHICALLY MANAGED CITY GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, IMPROVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND FACILITIES TO ADDRESS SAFETY CONCERNS AND GROW CAPACITY, ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS BY STRENGTHENING COMMUNITY SERVICES AND PURSUE AND ENHANCE STRATEGIC ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
SO NOW THOSE, THOSE FIVE GOALS, WE, WE CAME, WENT FURTHER AND ESTABLISHED LIVING AREAS OF PRIORITY AND EACH OF THOSE PRIORITIES AND STUFF, IT WOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF BULLETED ITEM UNDERNEATH THAT AND, UH, COULD TAKE IT INTO SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THESE PRIORITIES, I MEAN, WHY ALREADY MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION, DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES, CONVENE JASPER COUNTY SALES TAX REFERENDUM OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, CREATING MORE AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, PLAN FOR ASSIST, UH, ADDITIONAL CITY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, INCLUDING PERSONAL, UH, PERSONNEL AND FACILITIES.
UH, EXPAND PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND PROGRAMMING.
IDENTIFY AND PRESERVE SYSTEM AND STRATEGIC ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, GREEN SPACE, HOLD REGULAR JOINT MEETINGS OF JASPER COUNTY.
ADDRESS CHILDCARE AVAILABILITY AND HOMELESSNESS CONCERNS.
UH, OTHER NA, NATIONAL-WIDE ISSUES.
UH, UNIFY THE CITY UNDER ONE ZIP CODE AND, UH, KEEP ON WITH THE TAX REDUCTION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THROUGHOUT WHETHER RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS.
SO AS THE CITY MANAGER INDICATED.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE RECAP OF WHAT TOOK PLACE DURING OUR, DURING OUR MEETING WITH COUNCIL AND WITH, UH, THE, THE CITY LEADERSHIP.
SO THE NEXT STEPS OF IT IS, SO WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT INFORMATION? SO WE TAKE THE INFORMATION, WE'VE HAD A STRATEGIC PLAN IN PLACE FOR YEARS THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO COME IN AND REPURPOSE AND MAKE THAT STRONGER, MORE EFFICIENT EACH OF THOSE YEARS.
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AS A RESULT, WE, WE TAKE THINGS OFF THAT PLAN, WE ADD THINGS TO THE PLAN.UH, UNDER THAT PLAN, WE HAVE FIVE ARCHING PILLARS THAT KIND OF EFFECTIVELY MANAGE THE CITY AND WHAT WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH EACH OF THOSE PILLARS.
SO THOSE GOALS ARE PLACED WITHIN THOSE, EACH OF THOSE PILLARS, THE FIRST PILLAR OF GOVERNANCE AND ADMINISTRATION.
SO, SO WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS THAT WE ESTABLISHED THE OBJECTIVES.
SO WE, WE'VE GOT THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS O OVERARCHING FOR THE CITY.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THE OBJECTIVES IS HOW ARE WE GONNA TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.
THEN IF YOU GO EVEN FURTHER, YOU'RE GONNA GO INTO WHETHER IT'S TACTICS OR STRATEGIES, UH, AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THE ITEMS THAT WE DO TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THOSE ONES ARE, ARE BEING AVAILABLE AND WE, WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO AS A RESULT, YOU HAVE 26 OBJECTIVES MENTIONED, AND, AND WE GOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST HERE THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE ABOUT 84 DIFFERENT TACTICS THAT WE'RE SAYING SOMEWHERE THROUGH THE YEAR.
MAYBE CONTINUES THE NEXT YEAR.
WE WERE WORKING ON GETTING THESE TACTICS DONE, ACCOMPLISHED, AND WE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE.
I'M NOT GONNA READ ALL 86 OF THEM 'CAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD FALL ASLEEP.
SO I'M NOT GONNA DO THEM, MAYOR, WHY NOT? IT, UH, IF YOU WANT IT READ, WE CAN, WE CAN DO, SO WE, WE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THIS DOCUMENT STUFF IS AVAILABLE ONLINE, PUBLIC AND STUFF CAN GO ON HERE AND LOOK AT THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT AND STUFF, IT'S BASICALLY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE HERE, HOW WE PRESENTED IT, HOW THE PRIORITIES AND STUFF ARE LISTED.
AND, UH, SO THE NEXT STEP, ONCE WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE WE'RE ENTERING OUR BUDGET SEASON NOW.
SO THIS IS THE POINT THAT WE TAKE THIS INFORMATION, WE ALIGN IT TO OUR BUDGETARY PURPOSES AND KIND OF MOVE THE PROCESS AND STUFF FORWARD EACH YEAR LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.
AND THEN I'LL, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE LAST PART THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD MENTIONED ONCE YOU ALL ASKED ABOUT THE QUESTIONS OF THIS STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO, OKAY, UH, WHO'S TURNED IT? I THINK IT'S, UH, MR. MESMAN.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH TO PUT IT IN A, UH, FORM THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT I NEED TO READ IT TWO OR THREE TIMES TO TO TO TRULY COMPREHEND WHAT ALL IS IN IT.
UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE PLAN IS MOVING AHEAD, ESPECIALLY COMING INTO THE BUDGET SEASON.
IT'S SUCH WE CAN SET ALL THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES THAT WE WANT, BUT WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT WE MUST WORK WITHIN.
AND IT WILL COME DOWN TO A POINT WHERE, AS A COUNCIL, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, MAKE HARD DECISIONS ON PRIORITIZING ALL OF THESE.
BUT I, I REALLY KUDOS TO THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK HERE AND IT REALLY DOES FULFILL WHAT WE ASKED YOU ALL TO DO.
WELL, HE STOLE HALF MY QUESTIONS.
SO
SO I THINK THAT MORE THAN THIS LONG 84 POINT, THE MORE IMPORTANT DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADOPTING, IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE ONE, THE SUMMARY FROM THE RETREAT, AND THIS DOESN'T NECESS, THESE ARE PRIORITIES, IT DOESN'T SET NECESSARILY SET THE, UH, THE PRIORITY OF SPLASH PAD OVER MEMORIAL PARK.
IT JUST, IT JUST SAY, OKAY, THESE ARE BOTH PRIORITIES.
SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WE CAN APPROVE THIS BROAD BACKGROUND BECAUSE EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE WE MAY NOT GET TO THEM AND NOT EVERYTHING HAS A BUDGET.
FOR INSTANCE, UM, IF YOU GO GO DOWN, UM, GETTING ONE ZIP CODE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, UH, SPENDING MONEY, WELL, OTHER THAN STAFF TIME.
SO THERE'S, UM, THE CHILDCARE AND HOMELESSNESS, THOSE ARE THESE, THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE REGIONAL GROUPS LIKE, SO LOKA, THESE ARE NOT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, NOT FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS, BUT THEY ARE PRIORITIES TO WORK ON HOLDING JOINT COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH JASPER COUNTY.
THAT'S NOT GONNA COST US ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER THE MEETING'S OVER.
UM, BUT, AND PRESERVING SENSITIVE AREAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS IN HERE THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNCIL, BUT DON'T, DON'T NECESSARILY
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HAVE A PRICE TAG ATTACHED TO IT.SO I'M, I'M HAPPY WITH, UM, ALL THESE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL TALKED ABOUT AND SAID IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE APPROVE THIS DOCUMENT.
IF, UH, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.
MR. MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING THAT, THAT, YEAH, I MEAN, YES, THIS DOCUMENT DOES INCLUDE PROGRAMMATIC, IT INCLUDES SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE, INCLUDES THE FACILITIES AND STUFF, WHICH WE CONSIDER CIP, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT SHORTLY.
EACH OF THESE AREAS AND STUFF DOES REQUIRE SOME SORT OF RESOURCE AND THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO DECIDE ON IS, IS IT MORE, MORE MANPOWER THAN IT'S GONNA TAKE TO HANDLE THAT? IS IT ADDITIONAL DOLLARS? SO IT, SO AT SOME POINT THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, WE DO HAVE TO SIGN SOME SORT OF BUDGETARY NUMBERS THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO NO, I, I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT WE'RE, IT'S NOT LIKE MEMORIAL PARK WHERE IT'S $3.5 MILLION AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
AT SOME POINT OR ANOTHER, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER A SPLASH PAD OR MEMORIAL PARK OR HOW WE SPEND OUR MONEY, UM, AND AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY, OKAY, WE WANNA START PROGRESSING ON A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT IN A NEW CITY HALL, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, WITH ALL THESE BIG TICKET ITEMS THAT ARE ON HERE.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO AFTER TONIGHT,
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.
DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UM, PRIORITIES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS HOPING TO ESTABLISH FOR THE COMING YEAR? SEEING NONE, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.
THIS IS RESOLUTION TO 2025 DASH OH THREE DASH OH SIX B.
MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE PROMOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 25 3 6 B.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE.
UM, NOW, UH, I, I MISSED THIS BEFORE.
MAY I SUGGEST TO COUNSEL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, UH, WE NOW HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT WHAT I WOULD, BEFORE, BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT, MR. MAYOR, THE, THE ONE THING THAT WE DID MENTION THAT WE, WE KIND OF PROBABLY DIDN'T INCLUDE IT WITH THAT MOTION WITH THIS, THE CIP DOCUMENT ITSELF, WE WANTED AT LEAST SHARE THAT WITH YOU SO YOU, YOU COULD SEE IT RIGHT.
AND TALK ABOUT IT REALLY QUICKLY.
UH, I MEAN THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THE OTHER DOCUMENTS AND STUFF THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BUT I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AND STUFF THAT WENT INTO THIS DOCUMENT.
SO YOU ALL KIND OF CAN SEE WHAT THE TOP PRIORITIES ON THE CIP LEVEL IS.
UH, THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE, UH, ONLINE STUFF AS WELL.
SO BASICALLY IT FOCUSES ON 10 PROJECTS.
UH, OUR CIP DIRECTOR HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING THIS KIND OF, IT IS HARD TO SEE ON ONE PAGE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE YOU HAVE THE ELECTRONIC VERSION, YOU CAN ZOOM IN LIKE WE DO HERE AND YOU CAN SEE IT PRETTY EASILY.
JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS THE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THESE TOP 10 PROJECTS.
EACH OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE DIFFERENT PHASES AND STUFF OF, OF GOING FORWARD WITH IT.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, AND SHE'S KIND OF GOT THAT OUTLINE AS FUNDING LAND ACQUISITION.
IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS FOR WHAT EACH OF THESE PROJECTS LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND, AND JUST SOME GENERAL COMMENTS AND STUFF THERE.
SO YEAH, THEN THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO WAS THIS, YES, THAT WE AS A COUNCIL, WE'VE SET THE PRIORITIES BY RESOLUTION, BUT WE NOW HAVE TO GO DOWN, OKAY, HOW DO WE SPEND OUR MONEY? YES.
DO WE, DO WE WANT TO SPLASH PAD? DO WE WANT A MEMORIAL PARK OR WHICH COMES FIRST AND, AND HOW DO WE PAY FOR IT? MM-HMM
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT WE WANT AND THIS SHOWCASES YOU, WE PAY FOR IT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN EASY TOOL TO TRY TO LOOK AT THAT ALTOGETHER.
I, I WAS OKAY, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS WHEN, YES, SIR.
SO WHAT, WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT IS ANYTHING ON THIS CHART, IF IT SHOWS A COST BEING INCURRED BEFORE JULY 1ST, 2026, YOU'RE GONNA LIKELY SEE IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET SUBMISSION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOWING THAT WE WOULD LIKELY NEED IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT PARTICULAR PHASE OF A PROJECT.
COULD WE HAVE A LARGER COPY OF THIS PLEASE?
YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE 11 BY 17.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE BIGGEST THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PRINT FOR YOU.
WHAT I'M SAYING THAT WE SENT IT AS A PDF.
WHAT YOU COULD DO IS MEAN YOU CAN ZOOM IN THIS BACK AND FORTH AS NEEDED.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT IT KIND OF EXTENDED QUITE, QUITE LARGE RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS A BE A BETTER DEVICE TO LOOK.
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IF WE COULD PRINT SOMETHING OUT ON THE LARGE PLOTTER.I MEAN, WE, WE, WE CAN PRINT SOMETHING OUT AND YEAH, WE CAN HAVE AT LEAST AVAILABLE THAT YOU ALL CAN COME HERE AND LOOK AT WHATEVER.
LET LET'S, LET'S PLAN ON PRINTING ONE OUT ON THE PLOT OR PUTTING ON FOAM BOARD.
AND THAT WAY WE HAVE, WE'LL HAVE THAT SO YOU ALL CAN AT LEAST SEE EVERY TIME YOU COME IN HERE, IT'D BE NICE TO BE ABLE, SO SOMETHING I COULD MAKE NOTES ON THAT WOULD THAT, THAT WOULD HELP ME A LOT TO MAKE NOTES AS WE GO.
WE, WE, WE KNEW THAT WHEN, WHEN I SAW IT PRINTED EVEN ON 11 BY 17, WE KNEW THAT THE FONT STUFF WAS REALLY SMALL.
UM, AND IT DOES TAKE A LOT OF GOOD EYESIGHT TO SEE SOME OF THAT STUFF.
I, BECAUSE I PRINTED IT AT HOME AND IT WAS EVEN SMALLER YET I, I GOT THE MAGNIFYING GLASS OUT TO READ IT AND SHE TRIED TO DO IT SO IT WAS ALL ONE PAGE SO IT WASN'T CARRY OVER FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PAGES.
SO WE WILL USE THE PLOTTER MAKES NOTHING BIGGER.
UM, COUNSEL, WHAT I SUGGEST IS, AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T PICK THIS UP EARLIER, BUT, UM, WE SHOULD DO THE MANAGER'S REPORT COUNCIL ISSUES AND CONCERN BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
AGREE, MADAM ATTORNEY, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE FOR THAT AGENDA? NO, SIR.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, I'D LIKE TO, UH, TURN IT OVER TO MR. GRUBER FOR THE MANAGER'S REPORT.
[X. MANAGER’S REPORT]
YOU MR. MAYOR.ONLY ONE ITEM TO REPORT THIS EVENING.
UM, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, THE CITY BROUGHT TOGETHER A NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS ACROSS MANY OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS AND FACILITATED A DRONE PILOT TRAINING PROGRAM.
AND SO, UM, WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
I THINK WE HAD SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT 16 OR 17 PARTICIPANTS, AGAIN, ACROSS FIRE, POLICE, PUBLIC WORKS, UM, MANY OF OUR DIFFERENT GROUPS.
AND THEN I THINK AT, AT LEAST AS OF LAST COUNT, NINE OF THOSE 16 HAVE PASSED THEIR PILOT CERTIFICATION CLASS.
AND SO THE ABILITY FOR US TO USE THAT EQUIPMENT OUT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THINGS LIKE VISUALS, OVERHEAD SHOTS, ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA START, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKING BETTER USE OF.
BUT THINGS LIKE SEARCH AND RESCUE AND IDENTIFYING DAMAGE AFTER A STORM, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE NOW CAPABLE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLY DRONES COMPLIANTLY WITH ALL FAA REGULATIONS
UM, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT IT'S GONNA PRESENT TO US, I THINK ARE REALLY, REALLY EXCITING.
AND SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CERTIFIED PILOTS ON STAFF NOW.
TWO OPPORTUNITIES JUST THIS EVENING, WERE THE DRONE MM-HMM
EXTREMELY VALUABLE TO HAVE MM-HMM
TO HAVE, UH, THE VISUALS WITH.
UH, IF WE GO IN AN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, THEY'LL BRING ME UP LESS.
SO I'M GONNA GO ALPHABETICAL ORDER, MRS. GUZMAN.
[XI. COUNCIL ISSUES AND CONCERNS]
OKAY.UM, WE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT A WONDERFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY LET ME PRAY.
SO, UM, BUT I'M NOT GONNA TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW MR. MAYO WILL HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
BUT, UM, THE CITIZENS POLICE CITIZENS ACADEMIES ON THE 18TH OF MARCH, CHIEF, SO, UH, I BELIEVE STEVE AND I HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT.
I HAVE POSTED IT ON MANY OF THE FACEBOOK PAGES ABOUT THE CITIZENS ACADEMY, AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO GET IN THERE AND SEE WHAT YOU GUYS DO.
SO, UM, I ALSO ASK WHOEVER'S LISTENING, UH, TO THINK ABOUT, UM, DOING THIS BECAUSE IT GIVES THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT A WONDERFUL POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENT DO EVERY DAY, UM, DAY IN, DAY OUT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GIVE HER A GUN AT THIS THING.
DO I, NO, YOU HAVE A BULLETPROOF VEST FOR ME.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA STEAL YOUR THUNDER EITHER, MAYOR.
THIS MORNING'S ANNOUNCEMENT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
UM, THEY COINED SOME OF THE MAYOR'S TERMS. STARSHIP HARDY V YOU GOT A GREAT SEND OFF THIS MORNING FOR A COMPANY LIKE, UH, THAT IS HERE NOW.
THAT'S, IT'S NOT PROJECT SALMON ANYMORE.
THE JOBS THAT THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE ARE GOING TO BE
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AMAZING.AND THE BIGGEST FACTOR OF ALL OF THAT TO ME IS THAT WILL KEEP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HERE.
AND THAT WILL HELP BRING A STRONG COMMUNITY.
THAT WAS A GREAT THIS MORNING, BUT ELSEWHERE, WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AFTER THAT TO GO TO A RIBBON CUTTING AT, UH, A NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
IT'S TAKEN A PIECE OF GROUND THAT I THOUGHT WOULD NEVER BE GOOD FOR ANYTHING.
AND NOW WITH, UH, FARINO AND RYAN HOLMES, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE GONNA BE THERE AND THE ONES I TOUR TODAY ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
THOSE HOMES, THERE ARE GONNA BE THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THE PROJECTED 460 PLUS EMPLOYEES FOR, UH, TS CON, UH, CONDUCTOR, UH, RIGHT ACROSS FROM OUR, UH, UH, REC CENTER.
IT'S GONNA HAVE A WALKING PATH EVENTUALLY TO CITY HALL AND TO OUR PARK AND BACK.
THE STRIDES THE CITY AND THE STAFF HAS TAKEN IN THE PAST 3, 4, 5 YEARS ARE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES IN, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA, THEY'RE STARTING TO GET A LITTLE JEALOUS OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK OF NOT THIS COUNCIL, IT'S THE HARD WORK OF THE STAFF, YOU FOLKS AND THE STAFF.
YOU BRING US THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS TO MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN.
UM, BEFORE I GET TO TODAY'S ACTIVITIES, I'LL JUST GO IN, IN, UM, CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO, UH, GIVE MY CONGRATULATIONS TO LOWCOUNTRY LEGAL VOLUNTEERS.
WE WENT ON THE 21ST TO HELP THEM CELEBRATE 25 YEARS IN EXISTENCE, AND THAT'S A, A GREAT VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION.
THEY CAME TO THE CITY OF HARDY A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND THEY ARE GIVING FAMILY COUNSELING AND FAMILY LAW TO OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS FOR FREE.
UH, THE NEXT DAY I WENT TO THE, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE NEW RIVERSIDE, UH, PLAYGROUND IN, UH, NEW RIVERSIDE IN BLUFFTON.
EVERY, EVERYBODY'S GOTTA LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S A MODEL OF A PLAYGROUND AND, AND SOME OF THE NEW FEATURES THAT THEY HAVE IN THERE, INCLUDING A ZIP LINE.
I WANTED TO GO ON THAT MYSELF.
UM, I'LL, YEAH, NO, I'LL BE BACK IN THE, THE, THE BACK SURGEON IF I TRY THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, UM, ON THE 24TH, UM, THERE WAS THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX MEETING, AND WE STARTED TO HAMMER OUT WITH THE COUNTY, UM, WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE, UM, SALES TAX REFERENDUM MONEY.
UM, AND THAT WAS A GREAT MEETING, UH, A GREAT COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY.
AND IT, IT CERTAINLY SPEAKS TO ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES WE HAVE OF HAVING JOINT MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY.
UH, SO LOCO WAS ON THE 25TH, AND WHAT WAS GOOD ABOUT THE SO LOCO MEETING IS THAT WE HEARD FROM BOTH COUNTIES WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE FOR THE COMING YEAR.
UM, I WANNA THANK FORMER MAYOR SOKA.
WE HAD A, A REALLY GOOD, UH, LUNCH AND LEARN SESSION ABOUT HOW TO CONDUCT, UM, UH, EFFECTIVE MEETINGS.
AND I THINK WE ALL LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THAT.
UM, ON THE 28TH, UM, UH, AS I'M A BOARD MEMBER NOW OF REESE ACROSS AMERICA, AND I WENT WITH THE TALBOTS AND THE REESE ACROSS AMERICA, UH, BOARD TO, UH, MARGARITAVILLE.
AND THEY HAVE A PHILANTHROPIC, UM, DONATIONS.
THERE WERE A LOT OF NONPROFITS INCLUDING, UH, REEFS ACROSS AMERICA, BUT LOW COUNTRY LEGAL VOLUNTEERS, VOLUNTEERS IN MEDICINE.
I, I I CAN'T REMEMBER ALL THE VOLUNTEERS.
THEY GAVE OUT, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND $45,000 IN GRANTS TO, UH, LOCAL NONPROFITS.
SO, UM, FOR RACE ACROSS AMERICA AND FOR THE CITY OF HARVILLE, UH, THANK YOU TO, UM, MARGARITAVILLE FOR HAVING THAT PROGRAM.
UM, ON THE FIRST I HAD A UNIQUE EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS.
I JUDGED A HIGH SCHOOL DEBATE, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY WON BY AN EIGHTH GRADER, WHO WAS A VERY IMPRESSIVE YOUNG MAN.
UM, AND IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE AND, UM, I LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THOSE KIDS.
UH, THAT WAS A GOOD EXPERIENCE.
UM, THE, UM, MONDAY NIGHT JASPER COUNTY COUNCIL HELD, UH, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY A FEW YEARS, THEY HELD THEIR MEETING HERE IN THE CITY OF HARDY V AND I WANT TO THANK, UH,
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CHAIRMAN, UH, KEMP FOR INITIATING THESE CHAINS.AND WE WILL HAVE MEETINGS HERE IN THE CITY OF HARDY V ONCE A QUARTER, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO RIDGELAND TO, UH, ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.
AND WE HAD, UH, A PRETTY, I THINK WE HAD A FULL HOUSE HERE, SO THAT WAS GREAT.
UM, SO THANK YOU TO, UH, UH, COUNCIL CHAIR KEMP, AND TODAY I'M EXHAUSTED.
UM, WE, WE HAD PROJECT SALMON BECAME TS CONDUCTORS AS THEY, UH, THE GOVERNOR CAME DOWN AND ANNOUNCED, AND AS, UH, STEVE SAID, 462 JOBS AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE GOOD PAYING JOBS.
AND, UM, IT IS MY PERSONAL BELIEF, UM, THAT THIS WILL BLOW THE ROOF OFF OF LIKE BUSINESSES COMING TO HARDY V AND JASPER COUNTY.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE 18 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSING AND MANUFACTURING DOWN IN THAT RIVER PORT AREA BETWEEN SALT CLAUS, NORTH, SIGNAL CAPITAL, AND RIVERPORT.
THE AMOUNT OF JOBS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO HARDY V IS AMAZING.
AND NOW THAT WE HAVE A HIGH QUALITY TECHNO, THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY IS A PATENTED TECHNOLOGY AND IT WILL ADD TO THE POWER GRID IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
SO IT'S VERY EXCITING AND I EXPECT TO HEAR, SEE A LOT MORE, UM, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS AS WE, AS A RESULT OF THIS ONE TODAY.
AND I WANNA THANK THE GOVERNOR FOR COMING DOWN AND SHARING THAT NEWS WITH US.
AND THEN WE WENT OVER TO ROYAL OAKS.
THIS, UH, WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHAT I SAID WAS THESE HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT AT ROYAL OAKS WEST A, UM, EAST A AT THE, UH, THE RETREAT IN THE PRESERVE IN, IN, IN WEST A, THESE ARE HOMES THAT'RE BEING BUILT TO THE YOUNG FAMILIES AND THE YOUNG WORKERS THAT ARE GONNA TAKE THESE 462 JOBS AND ALL THE OTHER JOBS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT AREA.
I REALLY EXPECT TO SEE THE AVERAGE AGE OF HARVILLE COME DOWN FROM 59.7 TO A, A LOT LOWER NUMBER AS WE, WE START TO OCCUPY THESE, THESE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE FILLED WITH WORKERS THAT ARE DOWN SOUTH.
SO EVERYTHING, IT'S ALL PART OF THE BIG PLAN.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, THE, THE CITY IS PUTTING TOGETHER A, A GREAT FUTURE FOR, FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AND LASTLY, UH, AT THE TOP OFF THE DAY BEFORE I CAME HERE, UM, THERE WAS A, A PRE-SHOW, UH, AND I TOMORROW, UM, TCL AT THE CULINARY INSTITUTE IS OPENING UP A FOOD MUSEUM.
IT'S A MUSEUM OF FOODS OF THE LOW COUNTRY.
UM, SO THAT'S AT 10 O'CLOCK TOMORROW.
SO ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, UH, THERE'LL BE A RIBBON CUTTING AND IT'S REALLY, IT'S REALLY COOL THAT, THAT, UM, WHAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE THAT.
AND, UH, WE'RE A BIG SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF, UH, TCL AND THEY'RE GONNA BE CRITICAL IN TRAINING THOSE 462 HARDY RESIDENCE.
OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
UM, NOW WE EXECUTIVE WE'LL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS, INCIDENT TO PROPOSE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED SALE OR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY, THE RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE WHERE LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING, THREATENED OR POTENTIAL CLAIM OR OTHER MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, SETTLEMENT OF LEGAL CLAIMS, OR THE POSITION OF THE PUBLIC AGENCY IN OTHER ADVERSARY SITUATIONS INVOLVING THE ASSERTION AGAINST THE AGENCY OF A CLAIM IN ACCORDANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAW 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A TWO.
WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION CONTRACT FOR INSTALLATION OF VARIOUS MASS ARMS THAT, THAT'S LIGHTS FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN LIGHTS.
SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? WE HAVE A MOTION.
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I HAVE A MOTION TO RETURN TO A REGULAR SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION? MAKE A MOTION WE RETURN TO[01:55:01]
REGULAR SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION.WE ARE BACK IN PUBLIC SESSION.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION COUNSEL? YES, WE DO HAVE A MOTION.
UM, YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? OKAY.
MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT WITH SC DOC FOR MASTER ARM INSTALLATION AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? CALL FOR A VOICE.
AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MAKE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? YES, WE HAVE A SECOND.