* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. MANY BLESSINGS. [00:00:01] AND NOW, LORD, AS WE GO AND START THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY OF JASPER, LORD, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU GUIDE US AND DIRECT US THAT WE'LL BEST SERVE THE CITIZENS OF JASPER COUNTY. AND LORD, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, GOOD YEARS THIS YEAR. AND AS WE ENTER THE HOLIDAY SEASON, LORD, WE ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE. ALL THESE THINGS WE ASK IN YOUR MOST PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN. I PLEDGE, PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, UNDER GOD IN WITH LIBERTY, PRESTIGE, AND JUSTICE. TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND THINK OF ALL THOSE IN OTHER PLACES AROUND THE WORLD AND PRAY FOR THEIR SAFETY. AMEN. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS CALL IT TO ORDER OUR MEETING. I HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A LONG TIME, SO, UH, BEAR WITH ME. I'M A ROOKIE. IF I DO SOMETHING WRONG, JOHN HANDCUFFED ME AND TAKE ME OUT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE'RE GOING TO DO IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA, APPROVE AGENDA. SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. OKAY. JOHN, DO YOU TH SEE ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR HARRY? WELL, LET'S SEE. UM, I GUESS, CINDY, YOU GOT ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT, SO YOU MOVED DOWN WHAT TO, UM, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. WE CAN START THAT. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. OKAY. LOOKS LIKE THE CUPBOARD SPARROW. YES, SIR. UH, CINDY SANDY'S GOING. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL NEW STAFF MEMBERS THAT WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS EVENING. UM, DO WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO INTRODUCE? WE'VE GOT SANDY. THERE WE GO. THERE'S SANDY. THANK YOU. SANDY, WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOUR NEW STAFF MEMBER? OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNSEL STAFF. GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS EVENING. UM, WE'RE HERE TODAY. I'M, I'M HERE TODAY TO, UH, INTRODUCE, UM, OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE AT PUBLIC WORKS. THIS IS QUA POLITE, AND, UH, HE'S GONNA BE, UM, WITH OUR FLEET MANAGEMENT SERVICES, UH, DOWN IN PUBLIC WORKS. AND I'M GONNA LET HIM TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIMSELF. HOW WE DOING TODAY? GOOD, GOOD, GOOD. HOW, HOW ABOUT YOU? DOING? PRETTY GOOD. GOOD. . UM, WELL, I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING, UM, I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY BEING PART OF THE TEAM. UM, BORN AND RAISED OUT BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. UM, 20 YEARS OLD. I HAVE ABOUT 10 YEARS UNDER MY BELT WORTH OF EXPERIENCE WITH VEHICLES. SO JUST VERY EXCITED TO BRING MY KNOWLEDGE TO THE TEAM UP EVERY ROUTE WHERE, WHERE I CAN, UM, I HAVEN'T DONE A SPEECH IN A WHILE, SO . IT'S OKAY. YOU'RE DOING GREAT. . JUST RELAX. YOU KNOW HOW WE ALL FEEL NOW, . OH, UM, YEAH, I'M JUST, I'M JUST VERY EXCITED TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM. ANYTHING I CAN HELP OUT WITH, I'M READY. UM, MY HANDS ON TOP OF GUY. ANYTHING I CAN PUT MY HANDS ON, I CAN PRETTY MUCH FIX. START UP, GET IT RUNNING. UM, YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WELCOME. WE'RE WELCOME. THAT'S WELCOME TO YOU. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD THING TO DO. APPRECIATE. THANK YOU MR. PAUL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HELP US KEEP OUR WHEELS ROLLING. YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT. SAM, YOU HAVE SOME INTRODUCTIONS FROM YOUR DEPARTMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO HANDLE THAT, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, STAFF COUNSEL. UM, I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE TWO NEW PATROL OFFICERS, VILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. TO YOUR LEFT IS MATTHEW MESSENGER. UM, HE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN CENTRAL FLORIDA. HE MOVED TO THE AREA IN 2009. UM, HE'S WORKED FOR A PATROL, UM, FOR A LOCAL PROVIDENCE SECURITY COMPANY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. AND, UH, JUST THIS PAST FRIDAY, HE GRADUATED FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY. SO, CONGRATULATIONS, CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS TO, TO YOUR RIGHT. WE HAVE TYLER PENROD. HE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN NEW YORK. HE SERVED FOUR YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS. HE BEGAN HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT CAREER IN [00:05:01] FRANKLIN, TENNESSEE, ALSO JUST RECENTLY ON NOVEMBER 6TH, AS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS UPON CERTIFIED AS AN OFFICER. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. GIVE THEM JUST A SECOND TO ADJUST. ABSOLUTELY, PLEASE. THANK YOU, . GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. I'M JUST THANKFUL TO BE HERE AND HAPPY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH Y'ALL. THANK YOU. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. I ALSO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TO WORK HERE. AND I'M EXCITED TO START A HOPEFULLY LONG CAREER HERE IN HARVILLE. THANK YOU. WELCOME. YOU GOT A WELCOME. GOOD CHIEF THAT, UH, TEACHER. YEAH, HE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. WE GLAD TO HAVE Y'ALL. THANK YOU'ALL. I'D LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE NOW AN INTERIM, UH, MAYOR WHO'S, UH, COMING WITH US FOR THE DAY. MR. HARRY WILLIAMS . I KNEW I WAS GONNA GET SOME KIND OF GRIEF. UM, SO CHIEF, THOSE, THOSE BEARDS LOOK REALLY GOOD. UM, OKAY. GOT MY LITTLE DIG IN. WE'RE YOU'RE DOING GOOD. YOU'RE DOING GOOD. WHERE, UH, WHERE ARE WE NOW? TOP SECOND PAGE. SECOND PAGE. WELL, THIS IS PERFECT TIMING, IS IT NOT? PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION BY JASPER ON THE MOVE TO PJ NAPPY, MS. LIN BOYLES, AND, UH, JUDGE NANCY . GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, VICE CHAIR OF THE JASPER COUNTY CHAMBER. HE PRESENT BEFORE YOU, UH, JASPER ON THE MOVE IS ONE OF THE MANY, UH, EVENTS THAT THE CHAMBER HOLDS. UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CHAMBER. AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE HERE TO PROMOTE THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN JASPER COUNTY. UM, AND ONE OF THE MANY EVENTS THAT WE DO IS, OF COURSE, JASPER ON THE MOVE WHERE WE, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UM, ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE THAT HAVE DONE, UM, GREAT THINGS, UM, IN JASPER COUNTY. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO MENTION WE DO HAVE, IF YOU HAVE NOT JOINED, IS TEXT J-C-C-O-C AT 7 1 4 4 1. SO THAT IS A NEW WAY THAT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT EVENTS AND ANYTHING HAPPENING TO, UM, WITH THE CHAMBER, THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO GO AHEAD AND SIGN UP AND, UH, YOU WILL KNOW EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE CHAMBER. SO, WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I DO HAVE ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS THAT EVERYONE KNOWS IS MS. LIN BOWLES. AND, UM, WITH THE JASPER ON THE MOVE, WE HAVE SEVERAL CATEGORIES. ONE OF THEM IS ABOUT COMMUNITY SERVICE AND SHE WILL TELL US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU, NANCY. COUNCIL AND MAYOR. I'M LYNN BOYLES. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF KEEP JASPER COUNTY BEAUTIFUL. AND THIS YEAR WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AT OUR AWARDS NIGHT, WE GIVE AN AWARD OF THE VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR. AND THIS YEAR IT WAS THE ZINE INGRAM VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR, AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT WE PRESENTED THE AWARD TO COULD NOT BE WITH US THAT NIGHT. SO OUR WONDERFUL MAYOR, HARRY WILLIAMS, UM, ACCEPTED THAT FOR HIM. AND I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE STORY ABOUT HARRY WILLIAMS. HE CALLED ME . HE CALLED ME ONE DAY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED JA UH, KEEP JASPER BEAUTIFUL, WHICH WAS FOUR YEARS AGO, AND ASKED ME, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE HE SAID THIS, DO YOU WANNA VOLUNTEER? AND I WAS LIKE, DO I WANT VOLUNTEERS? THAT'S WHAT OUR PROGRAM IS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS A VOLUNTEER LITTER PREVENTION PROGRAM. AND I SAID, SURE. SO HE GAVE ME THE NAME OF A GENTLEMAN AND WE COORDINATED. AND, UM, THIS GENTLEMAN LIVES IN THE HARDY V AREA AND HE HAS BEEN, UH, VOLUNTEER FOR FOUR YEARS WITH US. HE PICKS UP JOHN SMITH ROAD SOLELY BY HIMSELF, AND HE AVERAGES ABOUT 15 BAGS A MONTH, WHICH AVERAGES OUT TO ABOUT 18,000 POUNDS IN THE FOUR YEARS. THAT'S NINE TONS OF LITTER THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS PICKED UP A LOAN. AND THAT'S JUST LITTER BAGS. THAT'S NOT ANYTHING ELSE. AND HE ALSO HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING ME OUT A LOT WITH MARKETING AND TRYING TO GET SOME OTHER PROGRAMS ON THE GROUND FOR KEEP JASPER COUNTY BEAUTIFUL. HIS PASSION AND ENTHUSIASM AND DEVOTION TO LITTER PREVENTION FOR THE CITY OF HARDY BILL AND FOR JASPER COUNTY IS BEYOND MEASURE. I AM HONORED TO PRESENT THE 2024 [00:10:01] ZINE INGRAM VOLUNTEER OF THE YEAR LITTER AWARD TO MY FRIEND. THIS HELPED ME OUT SO MUCH, MR. PJ NAP. HERE IS YOUR . THANK YOU SO MUCH. Y'ALL JUST HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS TO ME. COME RIGHT HERE AND LET'S HAVE ONE PICTURE, THEN WE'LL GET. HOW ABOUT HARRY? OH YEAH, MAY, CAN YOU JOIN US? YEAH, PLEASE, MR. BEAR, PUT THIS RIGHT HERE. HOLD THAT. I'M GONNA PUT YOU IN THE MIDDLE. THANK YOU. AND HARRY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT TOO, MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL IN HELPING US. I REMEMBER. YEAH, THANK YOU. HONOR, COULD YOU, UH, PUT ONE ON MY PHONE? PLEASE DON'T SIT DOWN. JUSTIN. YOU KNOW, COME ON. OH, WE NOT DO IT AGAIN. THANK YOU. WHERE DO YOU LIVE? THANKS. THANK YOU PJ. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT. I'M NOT A BIG SPEAKER, BUT I WANT TO THANK HARRY, FIRST OF ALL. JUST HE GOT ME STARTED HERE. AND LYNN, WE'VE BECOME LIKE FAMILY AND I FEEL LIKE I'M PART OF OUR GROUP HERE, AND I AM VERY PROUD TO PICK UP JOHN SMITH. I REALLY AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DON'T SIT DOWN PJ. DON'T SIT DOWN. YEAH, DON'T SIT DOWN. WE'LL HOLD THAT THOUGH FOR YOU. , THAT SAME MONTH, UH, THE COUNCIL WILL RECALL THAT WE PASSED A PROCLAMATION, UM, ALSO DECLARING YOUR HONOR OF EARTH DAY, THE PJ NAPPY, UM, DAY IN, IN HARDY BILL. UM, AS YOU SEE, I FORGOT TO BRING ALL THE PLAQUES AND, BUT I DID BRING THE PROCLAMATION EXCEPT IT SAYS, WHEREAS BETH WILLIAMS. SO I HAVE THE WRONG PROCLAMATION. , YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT MY WIFE. SO, UM, SINCE WE, WE LIVE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER, I WILL GET IT OVER TO YOU. UM, BUT UM, I KNOW THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO YOU AT THE TIME, AT THE TIME, AND, UH, BUT WE DID PASS THE PROCLAMATION. I DO HAVE IT SOMEWHERE IN MY HOME AND, UH, I WILL GET IT TO YOU. I'M TERRIBLY SORRY. MAYOR, MAYOR, MAYOR, MAYOR, CAN YOU USE THAT? SHE SAID YOU CAN USE THIS ONE. JUST PUT IT IN THE FRAME. JUST SWITCH THE FRAME. WELL, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET ON THE FRAME. OKAY. YOU GOT A FRAME? HE GOT A FRAME PROCESS. YOU SAID , LUCKILY BJ, SOMEBODY'S AWAKE THAT YOU NEED ME TO SIGN THAT FOR YOU GOT IT. HARRY, HA I'M NOT GONNA LET THIS DOWN. SO LET ME READ, LEMME READ THIS. WHEREAS PJ NAPPY IN 2020 WITNESSED A LARGE AMOUNT OF LITTER ON HIGHWAY 2 78 AND JOHN SMITH ROAD, AND CONSIDERED IT IN EYESORE AND BLAKE ON THE REPUTATION IN THE CITY OF HARVILLE. AND WHEREAS PJ NAPPY ON HIS OWN INITIATIVE BEGAN A SOLITARY QUEST TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. AND SINCE THAT TIME HAS DEVOTED FOUR TO FIVE MORNINGS EVERY WEEK FOR MOST WEEKS OF THE YEAR TO PICKING UP LITTER. AND WHEREAS PJ NAPPY SOON REALIZED THAT JOHN SMITH ROAD TOOK ALL OF HIS TIME AND HE ADOPTED THIS ROAD AS HIS OWN PERSONAL CRUSADE. AND WHEREAS PJ NAPPE WAS INTRODUCED TO LYNN BOYLES, DIRECTOR OF KC CCB AND JOINED KEEP JASPER BUTTE COUNTY BEAUTIFUL AND ADOPT THE HIGHWAY IN NOVEMBER, 2021. AND WHEREAS PJ NAPPY FROM NOVEMBER, 2021 TO DECEMBER, 2023 HAS COLLECTED OVER 700 BAGS OF LITTER THAT EQUATES TO 2,450 POUNDS, WHICH EQUATES TO ONE TON AND 450 POUNDS OF LITTER AND AN UNDETERMINED NUMBER OF DEBRIS SUCH AS TIRES, APPLIANCES, MATTRESSES, ET CETERA. AND WHEREAS PJ NAPPY, ACCORDING TO LYNN BOYLES IS A WILLING, DEDICATED, CONCERNED, AND FAITHFUL COMMUNITY LEADER. AND NOT ONLY FOR LITTER PREVENTION, BUT ALSO FOR OUR COMMUNITY BY LEADING BY [00:15:01] EXAMPLE, TO HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, CLEAN AND GREEN ENVIRONMENT. AND WHEREAS PJ NAPPY IS PROUD TO CALL JASPER COUNTY HOME AND HOPES TO HELP KEEP IT BEAUTIFUL THROUGH HIS VOLUNTEER EFFORTS TO PREVENT LITTER AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO GET INVOLVED WITH, KEEP JASPER COUNTY BEAUTIFUL, ADOPT THE HIGHWAY PROGRAM, AND NOW BE THEREFORE RECLAIMED BY THE HARVILLE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR HARRY WILLIAMS'S, APRIL 22ND, 2024, IN CONJUNCTION WITH EARTH DAY, BE PJ NAPPY DAY FOR HIS HARD WORK, DEDICATION AND POSITIVE INPUT TO KEEP JASPER COUNTY BEAUTIFUL AND THE CITY OF HARVILLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND HE ALSO IS A FORMER, UH, SOFTBALL TEAMMATE OF MINE AS WELL, . NOW, HOPEFULLY I CAN CONTINUE THIS MEETING AND, AND NOT MAKE ANY MORE MISTAKES BEFORE WE COMPLETE IT. , THANK YOU FOR BAILING ME OUT THERE. UM, OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 7TH, 2027, UH, 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 7TH, 2024. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 7TH, 2024. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. NEXT WE GO ON TO ALL BUSINESS. SECOND, READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT SUBMITTAL FOR ATTRACTIVE LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 46.2 ACRES KNOWN AS HARDY STATION LOCATED BETWEEN US HIGHWAY 2 78, 1 95, AND US HIGHWAY 17. THIS IS THE HARDY STATION PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PARCEL. UH, THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN A. AND AS WE DID AT THE FIRST UH, READING, THERE ARE, UM, THREE ORDINANCES INVOLVED IN THIS PROPERTY. UM, SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT, UM, QUESTIONS THEY HAVE REGARDING THE THREE ORDINANCES, AND WE DO IT ALL AT ONCE. ALTHOUGH WE WILL HAVE THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THREE VOTES. UM, SO HAVING SAID THAT, UH, MR. GRUBER, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THIS ITEM APPEARED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR NOVEMBER 7TH MEETING. UH, IT WAS VOTED UPON UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE IT ON FIRST READING. THERE HAVE BEEN NO MODIFICATIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THIS DOCUMENT SINCE THAT TIME. IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN INVITE STAFF TO COME UP AND GIVE A SUMMARY. OTHERWISE, WE WOULD TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE COUNCIL FOR ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. UM, WHY DON'T WE GO TO, UM, COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND STAFF IS HERE, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A WORKSHOP AND A FIRST READING. SO, UM, I'LL JUST START WITH, UH, MR. CARROLL. MR. CARROLL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ADDITIONAL? NO, SIR. WE'VE, UH, LIKE I SAID, YOU JUST SAID, UM, BETWEEN, UM, THE QUESTIONS WE'VE ASKED AT THE MEETING AND THEN THE WORKSHOP, UH, I HAVE NOTHING MR. WHITE, I, UH, AGREE WITH WHAT JOHN SAID AND I'M, NO QUESTIONS FOR ME MRS. GUZMAN? I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION, ONLY BECAUSE I GOT A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS. UM, UH, A FEW RESIDENTS IN HARDY WILL WANTS TO KNOW IF THIS TRAVEL CENTER WILL BE NAMED THE HARDY WILL TRAVEL CENTER. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. THANKS. YOU MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY , MR. MESMAN. NO QUESTIONS. UM, THERE, THERE HAS, THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS AND, AND MR. GUZMAN WROTE, WROTE SOMETHING, UH, READ SOMETHING AT THE LAST MEETING. WOULD IT, IT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. CAN WE PUT UP THE MAP AND JUST SO WE, AND SHOW WHAT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE? UM, SO ANYBODY WATCHING FROM THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT A METICULOUS PLAN THIS IS AND, UH, SHOULD ADDRESS ANY, ANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS. SO IF YOU JUST TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT AND RUN US THROUGH THAT, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. I, IT'S NOT QUITE EVENING YET. UM, I'M GOING TO, UH, [00:20:01] TAKE A STAB AT THIS. UH, AND, BUT THEN YOU HAVE AN ENGINEER HERE AND WE ALSO HAVE KATIE HERE, BUT ALL OF THREE OF US SHOULD HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE ON THIS ONE. SO, UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE HOLD ON THE LAST MEETING, WHAT DID I DO? OH, I'M NOT ON. THANK YOU. JAMES. DIDN'T REALIZE I WAS THAT QUIET. UM, THE INTER THERE WILL BE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, PART OF THE I 95 WIDENING PROJECT AND THE REDOING OF EXIT EXIT EIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF 17 AND 2 78. SO THAT IS ALREADY IN, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WILL COME FROM THE BUCKYS. THE, THE MAJOR PART IS THE, UM, TWO ROUNDABOUTS THAT WILL GO TO THE MAIN ENTRANCES FOR THIS TRAVEL CENTER AS WELL AS, UM, AN ADDITIONAL DOWN TO THE, UM, UP TO THE NORTH. SO, UM, BUT MOST OF THIS IS CONTINGENT UPON THE WIDENING PROJECT OF I 95 AND THE RECONFIGURATION OF EXUDATE. SO BREN, COULD YOU PLEASE SHOW THE PUBLIC IF THEY'RE COMING EITHER FROM THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH AND THEY JUST WANNA STOP AT THIS TRAVEL CENTER, HOW THEY WOULD COME OFF AND HOW THEY WOULD GET BACK ON FROM THE NORTH. YOU'RE COMING ALONG I 95 THIS DIRECTION. THE, UM, EXIT WILL BE PRETTY MUCH WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE GETTING EXTENDED A LITTLE LONGER AND YOU'RE GONNA KIND OF BYPASS THAT, THAT INTERSECTION AND THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT, AND YOU'RE JUST GONNA KEEP THEM TO THE RIGHT HAND LANE AND YOU'LL GO DOWN TO THE INTERSECTION WITH, UH, 2 78 AND 17 AND TAKE ANOTHER. RIGHT. UM, THE INTERSECTION FOR THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS, THE ACCESS FOR THAT WILL ALSO BE DOWN HERE. SO IT'LL BE THE SAME MOVEMENT YOU'RE COMING FROM FROM THE NORTH. IF YOU'RE GOING FROM COMING FROM THE SOUTH, IT'LL IT'S A BIG CROSSOVER. AND I'M NOT THE BEST TRAFFIC ENGINEER IN THE WORLD, BUT I WON'T, I'M GONNA LEAN ON THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND THE FOLKS TO HELP ME HERE. YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT. SO, UM, THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, THE GREEN BUTTON IS THE POINTER. YEP. UM, LITTLE BIT OFF THE PAGE, BUT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS S-C-D-O-T ARE DOING IS A DIVERGING DIAMOND INTERCHANGE. UM, HELP WITH THE, THE TRAFFIC FLOW THEY FOUND TO BE, I GUESS, THE MOST EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION FOR THE INTERCHANGE AND WHINING IMPROVEMENTS FOR 95. UM, BUT, BUT COMING FROM THE SOUTH, UM, YOU KNOW, NORTHBOUND, UM, 95, YOU'LL, YOU'LL EXIT, YOU'LL, YOU'LL MAKE A, A LEFT ONTO 2 78 WORK THROUGH THAT DIVERSION DIAMOND INTERCHANGE INTERSECTION, UM, COME TO THE, THE SAME 17 2 78 TURN RIGHT. UM, ONTO 17 AND THEN INTO THE, INTO THE CENTER. OKAY. AND ONE QUESTION NOW, SHOW US AFTER THEY GET GAS, A BUCKY'S HAT AND, AND A BRISKET SANDWICH, HOW DO THEY GET BACK ONTO THE ROAD? YEAH, SO TO GET, GET BACK ON THE, ON THE ROAD, UM, THEY'LL HAVE A COUPLE, A COUPLE OPTIONS. EITHER, EITHER ROUNDABOUT NAVIGATE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT, THEY'LL HEAD, UH, 1717 SOUTH. THEY'LL GET TO THE, THE INTERSECTION OF, OF 2 78, THEY WILL TURN LEFT. UM, AND THEN IF THEY'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND ON 95, THEY'LL JUST EXIT ON THE, ON THE EXIT LANE HERE TO, TO SOUTHBOUND 95. AND THEN, UH, IF THEY'RE GOING NORTHBOUND, THEY WOULD, WOULD CROSS OVER, UH, THROUGH THE DIVERGING DIAMOND INTERCHANGE AGAIN, AND THEN TURN LEFT ONTO, UH, THE NINE FIVE ON RAMP. OKAY. SO IT CLEARLY WILL NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE INTERNAL CITY TRAFFIC. THE, AND THE HIGHWAY 17 TRAFFIC WILL HAVE A LIGHT AND THEY CAN CONTINUE NORTH PAST THESE ROUNDABOUTS. IF, IF THEY WERE TAKEN 17 TO LIN OR VICE VERSA, IT SHOULD CLEAR IT UP A LOT. 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU SIT AND WAIT TODAY TO TRY TAKE THAT LEFT ONTO 17 IF YOU'RE COMING INTO TOWN, UM, AS WELL AS WAITING TO GET ON THE INTERSTATE SOUTHBOUND, THERE'S A LOT OF THAT. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GONNA MAKE IT A LOT CLEANER AND SIMPLER POINT. YEAH, AND I, I GOT, I WAS COMING BACK FROM COLUMBIA YESTERDAY AND I KNOW THAT LEFT, IT TOOK ME QUITE A BIT OF TIME, SO THAT'S A GREAT EMPHASIS THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM LOCAL RESIDENT STUFF, SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. RIGHT. AND THERE'S GONNA, WE'RE WE'RE APPLYING FOR A LIGHT THERE AS WELL, RIGHT AT AT 2 78 AND 17, ANOTHER TROUBLE SPOT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS ENTIRE AREA, AND FROM WHAT I SEE, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST PASSING THROUGH, THEY CAN GET OFF I 95 [00:25:01] WITH THOSE NICE BIG SIX LANES, COME AND GET ALL THEIR STUFF FROM BUCKY'S AND GET BACK ON THE HIGHWAY WITH NOT, WITHOUT AFFECTING INTERNAL TRAFFIC. IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? YES, SIR. CORRECT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS, I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I, I THANK YOU AND I'VE SAID THIS PUBLICLY. I THANK YOU FOR A WONDERFUL JOB OF MAKING THIS LOCATION AND THE EXITS SAFE, NOT ONLY FOR FOR YOUR OWN CUSTOMERS, BUT FOR OUR LOCAL RESIDENTS. I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY WHO IS INVOLVED IN, IN THIS PLAN FOR, FOR AN EXCEPTIONAL PLAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. YES, SIR. UM, DO THE FAR NORTH OF THE PROJECT PASS, THE, THE ROUNDABOUT, YOU HAVE AN EXIT COMING OUT OF THE OUT PARCELS. IS THAT GOING TO BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY OR IT, IT'S, UH, PROPOSED TO BE, UH, A FULL MOVEMENT. UH, THE, THE SPACING OF THAT, UH, OF THAT INTER INTERSECTION TO THE, THE ROUNDABOUT, THERE'S, THERE'S ADEQUATE ROOM AND IT'S BEEN COORDINATED WITH S-E-D-O-T FOR THAT TO BE A FULL, FULL MOVEMENT, UH, INTERSECTIONS. THERE WILL BE, UH, A, A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THAT, UM, INTO THAT SITE. AND FROM A A TRAFFIC VOLUME STANDPOINT, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THE, THE BUCKY'S GENERATED TRAFFIC. I MEAN, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, SOME MOVEMENT THERE. UM, BUT, BUT MOST OF THE, THE TRAFFIC, THE DEVELOPMENT'S REALLY GONNA BE THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS. OKAY. I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXISTING HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT'S ON 17 LOGGING AND OTHERS THAT THE PEOPLE EXITING THAT WOULD HAVE TO CONTEND WITH. OKAY. THANK YOU. IF, UH, I THINK MR. ZIMAN MADE A GOOD POINT, UH, IF, IF THESE, AS THESE OUT PARCELS ARE DEVELOPED, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO HEAD SOUTH AND GET TO THE ROUNDABOUT AS, AS OPPOSED TO COMING OUT ON THAT OTHER CURB CUT? YEAH, SO THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. YEAH, THERE'S INTER PARTIAL ACCESS WITH THE INTERNAL ACCESS ROAD. SO THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL ALL HAVE ACCESS AND, AND CAN ACCESS THE ROUNDABOUT AS WELL. THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, THAT, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE ROUNDABOUT WILL BE EASIER, UM, AT, AT TIMES. UM, AND, AND THE OTHER THING TO EMPHASIZE TO THE PUBLIC, THIS IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE A DIESEL TRUCK STOP. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. DEFINITELY NOT A ON A TRUCK STOP. IN FACT, I'VE BEEN AT BUCKY'S BEFORE AND THEY'RE CHASING 'EM AWAY. RIGHT. SO THEY, A AGAIN, I'M, I'M ASKING THIS FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, UM, SO THE PUBLIC, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A ZILLION TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT OF THIS SITE BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE BUSINESS MODEL FOR HERE. THAT THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. THEY'LL HAVE TO PARK THE TRUCK DOWN THE STREET IF THEY WANT TO GET A, A BREAKFAST BISCUIT. RIGHT. OKAY. , UH, YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME FUN, RIGHT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. GO TO MCDONALD'S, . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK SO MUCH. DON'T STOP FOR BREAKFAST. JUST ADVANCE. ALL RIGHT. UM, AT THIS POINT, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE PUBLIC THE CHANCE TO COME FORWARD WITH ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. UM, FOR THIS, THERE'S ONE ONLINE, OH, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A VIRTUAL ONE. WE HAVE A VIRTUAL ONE. UM, JERRY ANO, I HOPE I PRONOUNCED YOUR NAME RIGHT, UM, ASKS IF LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX AND EIGHT WILL WAIT TILL THE NEW 95 INTERSECTION IS COMPLETED, OR JUST LOT SEVEN. GOOD. IS THAT GOOD? YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S VALID QUESTION. UM, I KNOW SPECIFICALLY, UH, LOT EIGHT WILL NOT, NOTHING WILL OCCUR THERE. PRIOR TO THE, THE TRAVEL CENTER BEING CONSTRUCTED, UM, LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX, THERE HASN'T BEEN A DEFINITIVE TIMELINE, MY UNDERSTANDING. THERE'S NO SPECIFIC TENANTS, NO SPECIFIC USERS FOR THOSE. AND A LOT OF WHAT IS ENVISIONED TO DRIVE THE DEMAND FOR THOSE LOTS IS ONCE THE BUCKY'S COMES. SO IT, IT INCREASES THE VALUE OF THOSE AND IT'S MORE DESIRABLE. MM-HMM. , UM, FOR THOSE, I, UH, I DON'T ENVISION THAT THEY WOULD, WOULD OPEN PRIOR TO, TO BUCKY'S OR, OR THE INTERCHANGE. UM, YEAH, THERE, THERE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF OVERLAP A MONTH OR TWO, BUT NOTHING, NOTHING SIGNIFICANT. UM, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, I, I THOUGHT OF ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, REAL QUICK. UH, THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING FROM THE PUBLIC TIMETABLE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DOT WIDENING UP TO NINE, THEY'LL FINISH UP TO NINE IN APPROXIMATELY [00:30:01] FOUR AND A HALF YEARS FROM THEIR START, WHICH IS EARLY NEXT YEAR. IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS WELL. UM, I UNDERSTAND THERE, THERE COULD BE, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT OF FLUIDITY IN, IN WHICH INTERCHANGES GET CONSTRUCTED FIRST ALONG THE CORRIDOR. UM, LUCKY'S, IF, IF WE HAD OUR, OUR PREFERENCE, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST INTERCHANGE DONE SO WE CAN OPEN UP, OPEN UP SOONER. IT'D BE MINE TOO, BY THE WAY. . YEAH. YEAH. SO YOU WE'RE KIND OF AT, AT DOTS, UM, YOU KNOW, TIMELINES AND SCHEDULE ON THAT, BUT, UH, I THINK KIND OF WHAT WAS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY IS IT'D BE A, A DUAL RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE INTERCHANGE. RIGHT. WITH, WITH THE TRAVEL CENTER TOO. OKAY. THAT, AGAIN, THAT WAS MORE FOR THE PUBLIC THAN, THAN FOR ME, AND, AND I APPRECIATE FOR SURE. IS ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? UM, OR DO, DO YOU JUST WANNA SIT THERE? I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. . OKAY. YOU MIGHT GET INTO IT. I DON'T WANNA PUT, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. UH, SO, UH, THIS HAS BEEN A, A VERY WELL KEPT SECRET. UM, AND, UH, SO AT THIS POINT ARE, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN A. SO, GO AHEAD, JOHN. NO, GO AHEAD. NO, I GOT YOU. GOT IT. ALRIGHT. MR. MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN A? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. NOW WE HAVE THE SECOND READING. THIS IS THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR THE SAME DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN B. MR. GRUBER, IS THERE ANY MORE TO ADD HERE? NO, SIR. THIS MATTER REMAINS UNCHANGED FROM YOUR LAST MEETING. UM, MR. MESMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS HERE, SIR. UM, MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS, SIR. MR. WHITE? NO QUESTIONS MR. CARROLL? NO QUESTIONS, MR. MAYOR. OKAY. SO I WILL GO STRAIGHT TO PUBLIC COMMENT. ARE THERE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN B. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 SEVEN B. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OF THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. THE THIRD ITEM REGARDING THIS IS THE, UM, SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE. THIS IS THE DA AGREEMENT, AND, UH, THIS IS BETWEEN HARDY AND RED MOON DEVELOPMENT. UM, MR. CARROLL OR MR. GRUBER, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS? NO, SIR. AGAIN, THIS MATTER REMAINS UNCHANGED SINCE YOUR LAST MEETING. MR. CARROLL, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? ? NO, SIR. MR. WHITE? NO QUESTIONS. MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS. MR. MESMAN? NO QUESTIONS? I HAVE NONE EITHER. UM, SO WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS? OKAY. UM, NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. UH, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN C. MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN C. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OF THE PUBLIC SEEING NONE OR CALL FOR A VOICE? VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. CONGRATULATIONS. UM, NEXT WE HAVE THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR ATTRACTIVE LAND 628 ACRES TO BE KNOWN AS RIVERPORT COMMERCE PARK, PHASE THREE, AND RIVERPORT PARK, PORT PARKWAY [00:35:01] SOUTH, LOCATED BETWEEN I 95 AND US HIGHWAY 17. THIS IS 24 11 DASH SEVEN D MR. GROOVER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THIS MATTER WAS SIMILARLY ON COUNCIL'S NOVEMBER 6TH OR SEVENTH, UM, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. UH, STAFF MADE A PRESENTATION OF THE DETAILS REGARDING THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN. THERE HAVE BEEN NO MODIFICATIONS SINCE THAT PRESENTATION. HAPPY TO BRING STAFF BACK UP TO REVIEW IT WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE, OR WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE'LL GO RIGHT TO COUNCIL QUESTIONS AND, AND HE CAN COME UP AT THAT TIME. UH, MR. MESMAN, NO QUESTIONS. MRS. GUZMAN, NO QUESTIONS. MR. WHITE, NO QUESTIONS. MR. CARROLL? NO QUESTIONS. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AFTER LAST WEEK EITHER. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN D. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN D. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. A AYE. AYE. OKAY. LAMAR, YOU GOT, THAT'S ABOUT THE EASIEST YOU EVER GOT OFF ? I BELIEVE IT. HAVE A GREAT, HAPPY THANKSGIVING. CONGRATULATIONS. HAPPY THANKSGIVING. UH, SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 2024, BUDGET OF REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES TOTALING 54 MILLION 7 36 5 70. MR. GRUBER, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, WHEN THIS WAS INITIALLY INTRODUCED AT YOUR LAST MEETING, THERE WERE SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP REGARDING WHERE SPECIFIC FUNDING WAS BEING MOVED FROM IN ORDER TO MAKE, UH, THE FINANCIAL ADJUSTMENT TO MATCH UP FOR OUR END OF YOUR NUMBERS. THAT INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU IN YOUR PACKET, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO ACCESS OR REVIEW IT. SO I'M GONNA ASK JOHN TO COME UP AND IF JOHN, YOU CAN JUST DO A KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW, UM, ABOUT THOSE MOVEMENTS SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN ORDER TO CLOSE OUT, UM, THOSE CHANGES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, YEAH, THE, UH, WHAT COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, UH, NOT TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON WHERE THE EX, WHERE THE EXPENDITURE SAVINGS HAD BEEN AND WHERE THE EXPENDITURES WERE GOING. SO I JUST, UH, EXPANDED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. AGAIN, THIS IS ALL WITHIN THE EXPENDITURES. THAT IS, WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING OVER AND UNDER IN ANY KIND OF REVENUES. THIS IS JUST BALANCING GENERAL FUND EXPENSES TO GENERAL FUND EXPENSES. UH, I CAN WALK THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE, OR, UM, UH, I'D JUST BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU, YOUR CALL. JOHN. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD MAKE SURE THAT COUNSEL'S AWARE OF IS THAT THESE NUMBERS REFLECT VACANCIES THAT WERE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, BUT THEY DID NOT REPRESENT A TRANSFER OF THE ACTUAL FUNDING FOR ANY POSITIONS. SO, TO THE EXTENT THAT THOSE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS HAVE THOSE BUDGETED POSITIONS, THEY REMAIN WITH RESPECT OUR DEPARTMENTS. IT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF THE FACT THAT AS OF THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, THOSE POSITIONS HAD REMAINED OPEN, AND THEREFORE THE BUDGETED SALARIES AND BENEFITS HAD REMAINED UNSPENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. LET'S GO TO, UH, MR. MESMAN. NO QUESTIONS. MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS. MR. WHITE? NO QUESTIONS. MR. CARROLL? NO QUESTIONS. GOOD SUMMATION, JOSH. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE ABBREVIATIONS THAT I WHAT? EEE, EEE. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. EMPLOYEE BENEFITS. OKAY. UM, AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT 3 75. SO SALARIES AND OVERTIME, IS THAT ALL OVERTIME, JOHN? NO, IT'S BOTH. UM, SAN OR, UM, STEVE HAD A NUMBER. IT'S, IT'S, YES, YES TO YOUR ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. IT'S, IT'S SALARIES AND OVERTIME, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OVERTIME IN THERE BECAUSE LIKE, AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, THERE WAS A POINT WHERE STEVE WAS SEVEN FIREFIGHTERS SHORT, AND THAT THAT'S VERY STRESSFUL, OF COURSE. AND DID DRIVE UP OUR OVERTIME. YEAH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE, [00:40:02] IT'S NOT AN IMPORTANT POINT, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT WAS ALL THE OVERTIME NUMBER OR THERE'S MORE SALARY IN THERE, BUT, UH, THAT, THAT'S FINE. THE, THE OTHER THING ON, ON FIRE, IT SAYS 120,000 FOR EQUIPMENT. ISN'T THAT TYPICALLY ON ANOTHER LINE ITEM IS OR IS THIS EQUIPMENT THAT WASN'T IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE PASSED? IT? IT, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY. UH, I BELIEVE YOUR, YOUR QUESTION WOULD BE, IS IT MORE OF A CAPITAL TYPE THING AND IT REALLY WAS NOT. IT'S, UM, UH, WE BOUGHT THE NEW FIRE, WE HAD THE NEW FIRE TRUCK, SO THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THAT. NOT NECESSARILY EQUIPMENT THAT'S GONNA BE LONG LASTING. AND THEN ALSO, UH, SOME UPFIT ON THE, UH, AMBULANCES AS WELL. SO THESE ARE ADDITIONAL EXPEN EXPENDITURES THAN WHAT WE APPROVED WHEN WE APPROVED THE BUDGET, I GUESS BACK IN THE SPRING AT, AT, NOT, NOT DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THE COST OF THOSE THINGS WAS INCREASED. THE, OKAY, THAT'S GOOD ANSWER. OKAY. UM, ALRIGHT, THAT'S, UM, OH, UH, FOR THE DATA, $120,000, THE SAME QUESTION. WAS THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSES? WAS THAT SOME, WHY WASN'T THAT? OR WAS IT IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE PASSED IT? OR IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH OF THAT THERE. SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE COST IN THAT SPACE IS, IS GOING UP QUITE A BIT. AND THEN AS WE, AS THE CITY GROWS MORE, MORE PEOPLE, MORE, UH, AS WE ADDED STAFF AND EVERYTHING, UH, SOME OF THE COST OF MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE HAD WHAT THEY NEEDED WERE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. SO THESE ARE COST INCREASES IN THAT CATEGORY THAT WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATED WHEN WE PASS THE BUDGET? NO, BECAUSE, UM, YEAH, AND WITH EACH YEAR THERE'S A SOFTWARE PIECE OF THAT, UH, THERE'S A SOFTWARE PIECE IN THE BUDGET, AND THEN JAMES, JAMES', THIS IS JAMES'S DEPARTMENT, HE COVERS, HIS DEPARTMENT COVERS ALL OF THAT. SO IT, IT'S TWOFOLD THE COST OF THE INSURANCE OR THE, UM, THE DATA SERVICES, THE, UH, THE SOFTWARE IS COSTING MORE. AND THEN THERE WERE SOME NEEDS THAT WE, UM, MIGHT NOT HAVE FORESEEN WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET IN, IN THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, THIS ORDINANCE? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN E. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION ON THAT. WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11 DASH SEVEN E. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. NOW, NEW BUSINESS. THIS IS RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNCIL, ENTERING INTO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH BUCKY'S LIMITED REGARDING CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS TO SC HIGHWAY 17 AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 11 DASH 21 A. IT'S A RESOLUTION WE'LL REQUIRE ONE VOTE ONLY THIS EVENING AND ONE PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION. UH, MR. GRUBER, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS A NEW BUSINESS ITEM THAT'S APPEARING BEFORE YOU. UM, THE CITY'S BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING A, UM, AGREEMENT WITH THE BUCKYS ORGANIZATION RELATED TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU WERE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSING, UH, EARLIER THIS MEETING. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ANY DETAILS ABOUT THE, UH, THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT ITSELF. THANK YOU, MANAGER. AND, UM, AGAIN, WELCOME. I MISSED YOUR FIRST MEETING. SO THIS WILL BE MY FIRST MEETING WITH YOU HERE, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. YEAH. AND IF WE CAN PULL UP EXHIBIT B, I THINK IS WHAT THE DOCUMENTS CALL, WHICH SHOWS THE MAP OF WHAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE, BUT IT'S APPROXIMATELY 3000 LINEAR FEET THAT BUCKY'S WILL BE COMPLETING, UM, PRIOR, PRIOR TO THEIR OPENING. THAT'S THE AREA THAT'LL BE ENCOMPASSED. SO IT'LL BE THE A, UM, IT'LL BE THE ROAD WIDENING STORM DRAINAGE UPDATES AND UPGRADES ALONG THAT 17. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT THE DOCUMENT, [00:45:01] I KNOW IT WAS ALSO, UM, DISCUSSED AT LENGTH DURING A WORKSHOP. MAYOR, I'LL, I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFITS SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE ANYBODY WHO MIGHT BE VIEWING THIS, UM, FROM AFAR. THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES THAT THE CITY WILL REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER UP TO A CAP OF $8 MILLION. UM, FOR THE COST OF INSTALLING THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AS SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT, UM, THE REVENUES NECESSARY TO PAY THOSE REIMBURSEMENTS WILL COME PRIMARILY FROM HOSPITALITY TAXES THAT WILL BE GENERATED WITHIN THE PROPERTY ITSELF. AND AS A BACKUP, WE WILL LOOK AT USING ACCOMMODATIONS, TAX REVENUES AS A SUPPLEMENT. IF FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE NOT SUFFICIENT. HOWEVER, BASED UPON THE DATA THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO US, UM, AND THE GENERAL MARKET SALES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITHIN OTHER SIMILAR STORES AROUND THE AREA, UH, WE ARE VERY CONFIDENT THAT THE REVENUE THAT'S GONNA BE GENERATED FROM HOSPITALITY TAXES ALONE WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO PAY THE DEBT SERVICE, UM, WHICH HAS A 0% INTEREST RATE ON THIS PARTICULAR ARREST. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING WITH MR. CARROLL. ORDINARILY, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, I, I, I TALKED WITH JOSH AND HE, UM, EXPLAINED THIS AND I I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY. SO, NO, SIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MR. WHITE, WELL DESCRIBED WIN-WIN. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS MR. GUZMAN? UH, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, SIR. MR. MESMAN, JUST TWO QUESTIONS. BA BASICALLY FOR, UH, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, LINEAR SQUARE, UH, LINEAR FEET, THIS IS GOING TO BE 3000, APPROXIMATELY 3000? YES, SIR. OKAY. APPROXIMATELY 3000. AND FOR THE CITY MANAGER, THE, UH, THE REVENUE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, THE ACCOMMODATIONS, TAX REVENUE SHOULD, OR THE AGE TAX ACTUALLY MM-HMM. THE TIMEFRAME TO, WHAT'S AN ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME TO BE PAID BACK? DO WE HAVE THAT? UM, SO WE WON'T BEGIN MAKING PAYMENTS UNTIL AFTER THE STORE HAS BEEN OPENED. UM, AND THEN ONCE THAT OCCURS, WE HAVE A 10 YEAR REPAYMENT WINDOW. OKAY. NOW, THERE IS NO PREPAYMENT PENALTY, SO IF WE HAD RATHER ADDITIONAL REVENUES, WE WANT TO, WE CAN PAY IT OFF. BUT AGAIN, WITH A 0%, UH, INTEREST LOAN, ESSENTIALLY, UM, WE'LL LIKELY USE THE FULL 10 YEAR REPAYMENT SCHEDULE. OKAY. THAT WAS JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION TO HAVE. THANK YOU. ACTUALLY, I HAD, THAT WAS, UH, MY FIRST QUESTION AS WELL. THE 10 YEARS STARTS WHEN, UH, THE CASH REGISTER STARTS RINGING. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, ON THAT SAME PAGE, SECTION FOUR, UM, ITEM NUMBER, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE A YEAR AFTER, SO IT WON'T BE UNTIL YOU STARTED GENERATING SOME REVENUE THAT THE REPAYMENT WOULD START. OKAY. SO WHEN THE REVENUE COMES IN, IS WHEN THE CLOCK, THERE'S EVEN A GREATER APPEARANCE. ITS NOT JUST WHEN THE DOOR IS OPEN, IT'S A YEAR AFTER THE DOOR'S OPEN. YEAH. AND JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY TOO, THE, THE AGREEMENT DOES CONTEMPLATE UP TO 8 MILLION, UM, BUT ONCE THE ACTUAL PROJECT AND IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN ENGINEERED, WE'LL HAVE A MORE, UH, SPECIFIC COST. UM, ALSO, I'D LIKE TO JUST, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE THE NEXT ITEM DOWN, UH, ITEM C, SECTION TWO. UM, FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, BUT I, I COULDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND HOW THESE EXCESS COSTS WORK. ARE WE, UM, ARE WE, UH, LIABLE FOR ANY EXCESS COST? NO. SO BUCKY'S WILL COVER ANYTHING OVER 8 MILLION IF IT ENDS UP BEING THAT, BUT YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE WITH THEM AT THAT TIME IF YOU WANT TO COVER A PORTION OF IT. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT IT, THAT'S WHAT GOT ME CONFUSED. BUCKY'S AGREES TO FUND THE EXCESS COSTS. THE CITY SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT, BUT NOT THE OBLIGATION TO PARTICIPATE IN FUNDING OR REIMBURSING BUCKY'S FOR ALL OR A PORTION OF THESE EXCESS COSTS. SO THAT'S KIND OF A, AN OPEN END. SO WHAT HAPPENS, LET'S SAY IT'S $9 MILLION. DOES AND BUCKY SAY, HEY, I'D LIKE TO NEGOTIATE. IS THAT WHAT THAT CLAUSE ALLOWS? YEAH, IT ALLOWS YOU TO RENEGOTIATE, BUT IF THE CITY DOES NOT WISH TO PARTICIPATE AT THAT TIME, BUCKY'S HAS AGREED TO COVER WHATEVER IS OVER THAT 8 MILLION. OKAY. OR FOR THESE SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS. OKAY. I JUST WANT QUESTION 'CAUSE, UM, THAT IS KIND OF AMBIGUOUS. YEAH, I, I WAS, I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE WORDING AND I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IT. UM, ONE LAST QUESTION. WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO THE DA FEES, UH, AND, UH, DID I MISS 'EM OR THEY, I DIDN'T SEE THEM, UM, LISTED WHAT EXACTLY ARE THERE, [00:50:01] OR THEY WILL COME LATER. THE DA FEES ARE IN THE HARDY STATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A SEPARATE DOCUMENT. OH, OKAY. YOU APPROVED THAT EARLIER THIS EVENING. IT WAS THE THIRD ITEM OF THE HARDY STATION APPROVAL. IT WAS IN, IT WAS IN THAT DOCUMENT, YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT. NEXT, WE, WE WILL ASK THE PUBLIC IF THE PUBLIC HAS ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. NO. SO THEN I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 11 DASH 21 A. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 24 11 DASH 21 A. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. WELCOME TO HARDY. THANKS, EVERYBODY. . AND THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS BUCKY'S HARDY. PLEASE, PLEASE. I, I YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME. I'LL SAY THOSE LATER. UH, HI. STAN BEARD, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND REAL ESTATE FOR BUCKY'S. UH, REALLY GLAD TO BE HERE. UM, WE, UH, I'M A BIG FAN OF THIS TOWN AND I KNOW THAT, THAT EVENTUALLY ONCE WE GET GOING, UH, IN EARNEST, THAT THAT THE REST OF OUR COMPANY WILL BE A BIG FAN AS WELL. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BEING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. UH, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY OBVIOUS, UH, WITH THE TRASH PICKER UPPER, AND I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S OUR KIND OF DUDE. SO, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT BEING PART OF THAT AND, AND WE APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR PARTICIPATION IN, UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S GONNA MAKE ALL THIS WORK. AND SO, LET'S GET GOING. YEAH, LET'S GET GOING. GET GOING. , WE'VE, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THIS HAS NOT BEEN A SECRET AND, UH, IT'S A WASH IN, IN SOCIAL MEDIA, AND WE'VE HAD, THERE'S ALWAYS NEGATIVE PEOPLE, BUT, UM, THE MOSTLY JUST ALMOST ENTIRELY POSITIVE, UH, QUESTIONS, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, WHICH IS WHY I WENT THROUGH IT BEFORE. UM, WE ARE, WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE YOU PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND PLEASE PASS THAT ON TO YOUR, YOUR UPPER MANAGEMENT. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY. THANKS EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH, HE GOT A QT MAN QT CUP. UH, WE'LL HAVE TO CHANGE. NO, THAT'S GOOD, DIDN'T YOU? I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T BRING THAT UP ON THE CAL, ON THE, ON THE, UH, CAMERA, THE CUP SITTING NEXT, YOUR CHAIR. OH, . THEY'RE A LOVELY ORGANIZATION. THEY'RE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR. OH. ALL RIGHT. GOOD NEIGHBOR ALREADY. OKAY, NEXT WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT. MR. GRUBER, PLEASE. THANK YOU, MAYOR . THEY, THEY WON'T LET YOU GET PAST ANYTHING HERE. UM, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF EXCITING THINGS, UH, UH, I GET TO TALK ABOUT WITH YOU THIS EVENING. FIRST BEFORE, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC'S AWARE, UH, CITY HALL AND ALL CITY OFFICES ARE GONNA BE CLOSED IN OBSERVANCE FOR THANKSGIVING. UH, SO WE'LL BE CLOSED NOVEMBER 28TH AND 29TH. UM, ALSO WANNA MAKE THE, UH, COUNCIL AWARE THAT THE CITY OF HARDY, THANKS IN LARGE PART TO OUR WONDERFUL FINANCE TEAM, UH, WAS RECENTLY AWARDED THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT AND ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTING. WOW. IT'S THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW THAT THEY'VE RECEIVED THAT AWARD. THEY ARE ALSO THE SMALLEST JURISDICTION IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA TO BE CALLED, WHAT'S CALLED A TRIPLE CROWN WINNER. SO THREE SEPARATE AWARDS, ALL FOR THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTING ABILITIES. SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT. WOW. GREAT EFFORTS. UM, NEXT I WANT TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE RECEIVED $31,600 IN STATE GRANT FUNDING, UH, FOR NEW AND REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIVISION. SO WE ALWAYS LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OUR ABILITY TO GO GET OUTSIDE FUNDS THAT WE CAN BRING BACK HERE AND BENEFIT THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. UM, WANNA TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE CINDY OLIVER? CINDY HAS BEEN APPOINTED AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH CAROLINA BUSINESS LICENSING OFFICIALS ASSOCIATION. WOW. CONGRATULATIONS. CONGRATULATIONS. WAY TO GO. ANYTIME THAT WE CAN BE OUT THERE TAKING LEADERSHIP ROLES IN THE STATE, IT MAKES US AS AN ORGANIZATION, AS A COMMUNITY LOOK GREAT. SO WE WANNA TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THOSE FOLKS. UM, SIMILARLY, WHEN WE, UH, RUN A RECOGNIZE, UH, OUR MUNICIPAL JUDGE, JUDGE NANCY GUTIERREZ, UH, SHE'S BEEN APPOINTED TO BE ON THE SUMMARY COURT [00:55:01] JUDGE'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS IS A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GONNA LOOK AT THE PRACTICES, THE POLICIES OF SUMMARY COURTS, UM, ALL ACROSS THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. AND THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW THEY CAN MAKE THOSE COURT SYSTEMS, UH, EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE FOR ALL SOUTH CAROLINA RESIDENTS. UM, ALSO WANNA REMIND FOLKS THAT WITH THE UPCOMING, UH, THANKSGIVING HOLIDAYS, OUR FIRE RESCUE TEAM AND OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON GETTING INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT SAFE COOKING TIPS, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE AND IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA STREAMS. SO IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO REMIND FOLKS AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, YOU JUST NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHENEVER YOU'RE FRYING UP YOUR TURKEY OR WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING IN YOUR KITCHEN IN, DON'T DO IT IN THE GARAGE, IN THE KITCHEN. I WANNA RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT, DO IT IN THE BEDROOM. UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UM, I KNOW I'D SENT AN EMAIL OUT, BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS AWARE. UM, THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION, FEMA IS CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF HARVILLE. THEY'RE OPERATING OUT OF THE, UH, RECREATION CENTER ON JOHN SMITH ROAD. THEY'RE OPERATING WHAT'S CALLED A DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER. WHAT THAT IS, IS A PLACE WHERE FOLKS WHO'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY ANY OF THE RECENT STORMS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO COME IN AND MEET WITH FEMA REPRESENTATIVES DIRECTLY TO TALK ABOUT OPTIONS AND RESOURCES THAT MAY BE AVAILABLE TO RECOVER FROM THOSE STORM IMPACTS. AND THEY'LL BE HERE, UH, THROUGH SATURDAY. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, JOSH. UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS SHIFT NOW TO OUR COUNCIL AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, COMMENTS, CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS AS OUR MAYOR COMES BACK AGAIN. AGAIN. OKAY. WELL, WHY DON'T WE START, UH, REVERSE ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND, AND YOU GO FIRST. FINE. I HAVE, UH, NO NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS MOMENT. MR. MESMAN. NOTHING SIR. MRS. GUZMAN, NOTHING. WOW. THIS IS A WRECK. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT WITH YOU. VAL. , NOTHING FOR YOU EITHER. NO. TAKE IT AWAY, JOHN. . JOHN. WELL, UM, I'M KIND OF EMBARRASSED, BUT I GUESS I HAVE TO TAKE VAL'S THUNDER A LITTLE BIT. WE DID DO THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR HARDY GREEN, AND, UH, THAT'S A NICE, UM, DEVELOPMENT AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THEY, UM, THAT ARE WATCHING. I'LL GO ONLINE ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS, UH, TREE LIGHTING AND THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, UH, DECEMBER THE FIFTH AND SIXTH. SO PLEASE, LET'S HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT. AND I HAVE ONE OTHER THING, BUT I THINK PROBABLY THE MAYOR'S GOING TO DO IT, AND I DON'T WANNA STEAL HIS THUNDER, SO I'LL LEAVE THAT OFF. BUT I DO WANT TO ADD SOMETHING AFTER YOU SAY IT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR. UM, I'M GONNA MAKE UP FOR ALL OF YOU BECAUSE IT REALLY HAS BEEN VERY, VERY BUSY. I THOUGHT YOU PROBABLY WOULD. AND, UH, , UH, FIRST OF ALL, UM, THE, ON THE EIGHTH, I'LL GO IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER. ON THE EIGHTH, WE HAD A BREAKFAST FOR, UH, JOSH TO MEET THE, UH, COMMUNITY. AND I, I MET PEOPLE I HADN'T MET BEFORE WHO CAME FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN WHITE HEARTED BOULEVARD. WE HAVE NEW OWNERS AT THE QUALITY INN. SO THERE'S, UH, IT WAS A VERY GOOD EVENT. UM, VETERAN'S DAY AT MARGARITAVILLE. UM, I TOOK AS MY GUEST, UH, MR. JW HARPER, AND, UM, CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM ON, NOT ONLY ON HIS BIRTHDAY, BUT FOR 97 YEARS, AND HE'S STILL DRIVING. IT'S AMAZING. WOW. UM, THERE ON THE 12TH WAS THE HOUSING SYMPOSIUM, AND I WAS ON THE PANEL WITH A COUPLE OTHER MAYORS AND, UH, UH, MRS. HOWARD FROM, UH, BEAUFORT COUNTY COUNCIL, AND WE WERE TELLING 'EM ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT EACH OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE. UH, I DID JUST GET A POWERPOINT OF, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FORWARD IT, BUT THERE WAS, UH, SOME VERY INTERESTING STATISTICS ABOUT THE NEED FOR HOUSING IN THIS AREA. WE, WE KNOW IT, BUT WHEN YOU SEE THE STATISTICS, IT'S, UM, IT'S REALLY AMAZING. BUT I, I JUST GOT THAT AT, UH, YESTERDAY. I THINK IT WAS, I'LL MAKE SURE I FORWARD IT TO YOU. UH, THERE WAS, UH, ALSO ON THE 12TH WAS, UH, GATEWAY COMMERCE, UH, PRESENTATION. UM, AND ON THE 12TH ALSO, UH, WE HAD AN EXIT THREE MEETING. UM, SO, UH, THAT CONTINUED. THERE WAS, UM, ON THE 13TH [01:00:02] SALT, WHICH HAD ITS GROUNDBREAKING ON THE, UH, ON THE NEXT DAY, UM, THERE WAS A DINNER THAT, UH, UH, I WAS SITTING WITH, UH, SENATOR DAVIS, UM, REPRESENTATIVE HAGER, UM, MARTY SAS FROM THE COUNTY, UM, AND ALSO, UH, SENATOR BRAD HUTTO, UM, WHO'S NOT FROM THIS AREA, BUT ON THE SOUTHERN CAROLINA ALLIANCE. AND THAT WAS IN ANTICIPATION THE NEXT DAY, THE SALT GROUNDBREAKING. UM, BUT THE REASON I, I BROUGHT UP THAT DINNER IS BECAUSE IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE STATE, UM, PEOPLE, UH, WE DO NEED TO GET TOGETHER. AND I SPOKE TO JOSH ABOUT THIS, A VERY FOCUSED LIST SO THAT WHEN, UH, WE GO UP TO COLUMBIA ON THE 20TH, WE CAN START ASKING OUR STATE PEOPLE FOR MONEY FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS. AND THAT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT. UM, THE YOUTH COUNCIL HAS CHOSEN TO BE PART OF THIS COMING MONDAY'S, UH, TURKEY GIVEAWAY EVENT. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO, UH, DECIDED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. AND THE KIDS WANTED TO GIVE AWAY SOUP AND SANDWICHES. AS THE PEOPLE COME THROUGH, THERE'S GONNA BE 250 TURKEYS GIVEN AWAY WITH THE FIXINGS, AND THEN AFTER THEY DO THAT, THEY'LL BE, UM, GIVEN SOUP AND SANDWICHES. AND I THINK WE'RE PLANNING ON 500, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . UM, AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE NOTE THAT, UH, MR. RICK PATEL IS PROVIDING THE FOOD FOR THAT, UH, THAT EVENT. UH, THERE WILL ALL, IT WILL ALSO BE A DROP OFF BOX FOR COATS AND, AND OUTERWEAR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE. AND MR. NAPOLEON, EVERY YEAR, UM, PUTS, UM, PUTS TOGETHER THIS EVENT SO HE CAN PROVIDE KIDS COMING OUT OF THE SYSTEM OR IN THE SYSTEM WITHOUT AWARE FOR THE WINTER. SO PLEASE SPREAD THAT WORD. I'LL BE SENDING OUT SOME FLYERS IF YOU COULD PASS THAT OUT. AND PEOPLE WANT TO DONATE. THEY, IT'S JUST, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE A DROP OFF BOX FOR THAT. WE'RE ALSO STILL LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT WITH THAT EVENT. UM, HARVEY PLACE ON THE 16TH, UM, JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT HARVEY PLACE AND THE, UH, THE, UM, COLLABORATION WITH FARINO, THE CITY AND, AND WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. AND AS YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THE BOARD SECRETARY OF HABITAT, SO, UH, THIS WAS, WE HAVE 10 FAMILIES MOVED IN SATURDAY. I WENT, UH, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING IN. I ONLY GOT TO MEET TWO OF 'EM. UH, I STOPPED BY BETH AND I, AND, AND WISHED THEM WELL AS THEY MOVED INTO THEIR, THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY CLOSED LAST WEEK ON THAT. UH, THERE WAS A, UH, MEETING WITH LK AND, UM, WITH JOSH AND I, AND THAT RESULTED IN, THERE WILL BE A JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION COUNCIL MEETING ON DECEMBER 4TH, AND THEY WILL BE PRESENTING A NEW PLAN FOR WHAT'S ROAD A, UM, JOSH HAS MAPS, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT IN ADVANCE. UM, THANKS AGAIN TO THE MEDIA. WE'RE, WE'RE DOING SHOP LOCAL. UM, AS A RESULT OF MEETING THE QUALITY IN PEOPLE WERE, UM, JESS AND, AND, UH, JUAN AND, AND DANIEL. UH, WE WENT OVER TO, UM, THE QUALITY INN. WE DID A PRACTICE RUN. WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK THERE AND, AND FILM A, A LITTLE SOMETHING TO HELP THAT BUSINESS GET GOING. AND, UH, JESS AND I TALKED, WE'LL PROBABLY DO SOMETHING FOR HARDY GREENS AS WELL. UM, JOSH AND I GAVE OUR FIRST JOINT ZOOM MEETING TO THE HILTON HEAD ISLAND REALTORS, TELLING 'EM ABOUT, UM, PARTICULARLY EXIT EIGHT, EXIT FIVE, AND EXIT THREE OFF I 95. AND OF COURSE, UH, TUESDAY WE HAD THE HARDY GREENS, UM, RIBBON CUTTING. AND THEN AFTER THAT, UH, WE DROVE TO COLUMBIA AND YESTERDAY MORNING, SAT IN FRONT, UH, OF THE STATE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AND RECEIVED THE LAST $35 MILLION OF THE PUZZLE TO COMPLETE EXIT THREE. AND THAT [01:05:03] I SPOKE TO, UH, JUSTIN POWELL IS THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, AND I ASKED HIM IF THEY COULD PUT A LITTLE CUT OUT BECAUSE I WANT MY URN AND ASHES TO GO INTO EXIT THREE . RIGHT. UM, I, I DON'T THINK HE GRANTED MY REQUEST, BUT THAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE TO THANK OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING SENATOR DAVIS, WHO'S BEEN EVERY TIME OVER THE YEARS, CERTAINLY SINCE I'VE BEEN MAYOR, GOING UP THERE, SOMETIMES GETTING BEAT UP. UM, BUT SENATOR DAVIS WAS THERE EVERY SINGLE TIME. BUT ALSO, UM, BILL HERB KERMAN, WESTON NEWTON, UH, BILL HAGER WERE CONSTANTLY TALKING TO THE GOVERNOR AND, AND TO CHAIRMAN WHITE ABOUT THE NECESSITY FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, I ASKED BEN GLING, WHO FOR GRAMBLING WILL BE DEVELOPING THIS PROJECT, UM, THAT HE COME IN TO THE COUNCIL, UM, AND PERHAPS A JOINT, I SPOKE TO ANDY MAYBE HAVING A JOINT COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE COUNTY SO THEY CAN START TELLING US WHAT TO EXPECT AT EXIT THREE IN THE 1600 ACRES THAT'S GONNA GO AROUND THAT EXIT, WHICH IS THE TIFF ZONE. SO, UH, A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS COMING FOR EXIT THREE. AND FINALLY, UH, THAT WILL BE BID NEXT MONTH WITH THE I 95 WIDENING PROJECT, UH, WHICH IS DUE, I THINK THEY WANNA START FEBRUARY OR MARCH, JOSH, RIGHT? EXIT THREE. UH, WELL, THEY'LL START WIDE AT THE, AT THE BRIDGE WIDENING, AND THEN WHEN THEY GET, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEY'LL START WITH EXIT THREE, IF THEY'LL WAIT TILL THE ROAD'S UP THERE OR THEY'LL START BUILDING IT WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP THAT WAY. BUT, UH, THE PLAN, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IS WHEN THEY START IN FEBRUARY, MARCH, IT'LL BE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS TO COMPLETE UP TO EXIT NINE MAYOR, WE CAN MILE MARK OR NINE. WE'VE GOT A SCHEDULE FROM DOT THAT TALKS ABOUT THOSE STEPS. AND SO, WE'LL, WE'LL RESEND THAT TO ALL COUNCIL. RIGHT? SO THAT'S, UM, THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. UM, THIS MORNING WE, UH, JOSH AND I, AND SOME STAFF WERE AT UNITED RESOURCES AND THEY HAD IT TILTING UP, UH, OPENING. AND IF NOBODY SEE HOW THEY PUT THESE BUILDINGS UP TODAY, THEY GET THIS CRANE AND THEY TILT IT UP THE WHOLE WALL. IT'S REALLY, I'VE SEEN PICTURES BEFORE, BUT SEEING IT IN PERSON WAS REALLY SOMETHING. SO OUR CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO UNITED RESOURCES. WHAT THEY DO, THEY ASSEMBLE, UH, DISPLAY CASES FOR STORES IF YOU SEE DISPLAY CASES ON THE END OF ISLES. UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A GREAT NEW, AND THEY'RE FROM NEW JERSEY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. UM, SO WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE FROM NEW JERSEY COMING, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO AFTER THAT, UM, JOSH AND I, UH, WE SAT WITH THE MORGAN TRACK, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE A, A LOT OF PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT THAT YOU CAN, UH, TALK TO ME OR, OR JOSH, UH, PRIVATELY, BECAUSE THAT'S REGARDING THE MOU FOR THE INTERCHANGE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT 2 78 AND JOHN SMITH ROAD. BUT THAT WILL, THAT WILL BE COMING OUT, AND THERE'S A REASON WHY I'M NOT GONNA EXPOUND ON THAT IN PUBLIC. UM, AND LASTLY, I, I SENT THE COUNCIL, UH, YOU KNOW, A NOTE THIS MORNING WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS. PLEASE GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO, UH, HOW YOU WANNA PROCEED ON THOSE THINGS. UM, AND LASTLY, HAPPY THANKSGIVING, HARDY, AND MAY EVERYBODY HAVE A NICE LONG, HAPPY WEEKEND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, SO JOHN, DID YOU WANT TO, I'M JUST, PAM, YOU, YOU PRETTY WELL COVERED IT, MR. MAYOR, BUT I WANTED TO, UM, SAY HOW MANY, ABOUT 12 YEARS, I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAD FIGURED OUT THAT, AND THAT, UM, MR. HE WAS NOT HERE NOW, MR. SIM, BUT HE WAS ONE, YOU AND HE WORKED TOGETHER A LONG TIME ON THAT, GETTING THAT TOGETHER. AND SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT EXIT THREE. AND, UM, THEY HAD SOME POSTS THIS MORNING TALKING ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF, OF WHAT EXIT THREE WILL DO. SO, UM, LONG, LONG TIME GETTING THIS PROJECT. AND, UM, SO IT'S, IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S FINAL FINALLY DONE. I WAS BEGINNING TO WORRY AT TIMES. OH YEAH, TELL ME. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE PRESENTED TO THE, UH, TO THE BANK AND, UH, NOT MY CALCULATIONS, BUT THE DEVELOPERS, THIS DIRECT IMPACT OF EXIT THREE, 'CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE APARTMENTS, THERE'S GONNA [01:10:01] BE HOUSES, THERE'S GONNA BE WAREHOUSES AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS AROUND AN INTERSTATE. 13 AND A HALF THOUSAND NEW JOBS, $3.5 BILLION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR JASPER COUNTY, AND $115 MILLION PER YEAR IN TAX REVENUES FOR THE CITY, COUNTY, AND SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO THE, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF EXIT THREE IS HUGE, HUGE. AND IT'S A BIG WIN FOR THE LOW COUNTRY. A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, WERE INVOLVED IN THIS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED MR. ZIBO. UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS, BUT BEFORE THAT, I, I'M TOLD THAT, UH, MAYOR BOSTICK ALSO, UH, DID A LOT OF WORK ON THAT IN THE EARLY YEARS. SO, UH, MY THANKS TO HIM, ALL THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS THAT HAD A HAND IN GETTING US TO THIS POINT, IT'S, UH, IT WAS A LONG ROAD, BUT THE, THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF, OF NOT ONLY THE CITY AND REVENUES, BUT UM, THE AMOUNT OF JOBS JUST LIKE BUCKY'S THAT WE'RE BRINGING, WE'RE BRINGING NOT ONLY NEW JOBS, BUT BRINGING JOBS WITH BETTER PAYING, UH, SALARIES THAN, THAN PERHAPS THEY HAVE IN, IN YEARS PAST. AND THAT'S THE EXCITING PART, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE UPSET. REAL MOMENT OF THANKSGIVING FIRST. WE HAVE A LOT, YOU KNOW, THINK ABOUT, THINK ABOUT EXIT THREE WHEN YOU TAKE THAT BITE OUTTA THE TURKEY LAKE. UM, SO ON THAT NOTE, MAY I HAVE A, WE HAVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS, INCIDENT TO PROPOSE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED SALE OR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY, THE RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE WHERE LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING, THREATENED OR POTENTIAL CLAIM OR OTHER MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE, SETTLEMENT OF LEGAL CLAIMS OF THE POSITION OF THE PUBLIC AGENCY AND OTHER ADVERSARY SITUATIONS INVOLVING THE ASSERTION AGAINST THE AGENCY OF A CLAIM IN ACCORDANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAW 30 DASH FOUR DASH 78 2. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT A LAND ACQUISITION ON RANDALL STREET. COUNSEL MAY TAKE ACTION IN OPEN SESSION ON MATTERS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT, UH, MR. GRUBER, DO WE ANTICIPATE THAT? NO, SIR. I WAS GONNA SAY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, WE ARE LIKELY TO ADJOURN DIRECTLY FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH NO ACTION BEING TAKEN. THANK YOU. UH, SO I MEAN, THEN ALL WE NEED IS A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION. GO AHEAD. UM, STEVE, WE HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. GUZMAN, A SECOND BY MR. CARROLL. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.