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CALL THE OCTOBER MEETING OF THE HARDY PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
MR. ZILLOW, WOULD YOU LEAD US? THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US ALL HERE TOGETHER, LORD.
AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, THIS, THIS BOARD DOING WHAT IT DOES AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT COME HERE TODAY.
LORD, LET US WORK TOGETHER TODAY.
ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC WIT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALRIGHT, UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, I WANNA MAKE A STATEMENT, UH, FOR THE RECORD, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
WE HAD AN ITEM ON OUR AGENDA TODAY TO RECONSIDER AN ITEM WE TABLED LAST MONTH FOR THE HILTON HEAD LAKES PDD.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN THE ITEM AND SO IT IS NO LONGER ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
UH, SO IF YOU THOUGHT ON THE WEBSITE, IT MAY HAVE STILL BEEN THERE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA? I MOVE.
UH, THERE IS NO OLD BUSINESS AT THIS POINT.
SO WE GO RIGHT, WE GOT MINUTES.
UM, MR. FOREMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I HAD SUBMITTED SOME CORRECTIONS THEY'VE BEEN MADE, UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, SIR, WITH THE, THE LARGE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS AND OTHER THINGS WE'VE HAD, WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REDO THEM.
WE WILL CERTAINLY REWORK THEM.
AND IF, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE YOU COULD, UM, TABLE THESE TILL THE NEXT MEETING, UM, TABLE THE MINUTES UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE THING.
'CAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IN, INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE CHANGES.
ALRIGHT, WELL I MOVE THAT WE TABLE THE, NO, YEAH, I, I, HOLD, HOLD ON A SECOND.
MR. TALBOTT, DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES YOU'D LIKE TO SUGGEST? NOT AT THIS POINT.
I HAD A COUPLE WHICH I PUT IN WRITING, UH, TO ASHLEY, AND, UH, SO SHE'S AWARE OF MY COMMENTS.
THERE'S ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A SHORT PARAGRAPH ADDENDUM TO THOSE MINUTES THAT PUTS ON THE RECORD
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WHY WE ARE MEETING TODAY.AND, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAD TABLED, UH, THE APPLICATION AND IT SUGGESTED OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND THEN IT GOT CHANGED TO TODAY BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ITEM OF, OF STATE LAW THAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF WHEN WE MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, UM, THAT, UH, AFTER, AFTER THE FACT, WE LEARNED THAT TABLING THE APPLICATION UNTIL DECEMBER WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE BY STATE LAW AND BY AGREEMENT WE MOVED THE MEETING TO TODAY.
THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PULLED THE APPLICATION IS, IS NOT GERMANE TO CORRECTING THE, YOU KNOW, TO ADDING TO THE MINUTES WHY WE'RE MEETING TODAY AND NOT A REGULAR DECEMBER MEETING ON THIS ISSUE.
SO, I, I I THINK THAT IS GOOD.
WE'LL HAVE IT, UM, WE'LL ADD THAT ADDENDUM AND INCLUDING THE EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT TO, TO YOU MR. SIPPEL AND PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT, UM, IT'S ALL EXPLAINED AS WELL AS IT'LL BE ON THE RECORD FOR TODAY AS WELL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY COME, THIS MAY COME UP SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE APPLICANT WILL COME BACK, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE RECORDED SO THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING FROM PEOPLE WHO PICK THOSE UP.
WELL CROSS, WE'LL CROSS OUR T'S AND DOT OUR I'S.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BRIANNA.
UM, THI THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE RUN INTO TABLING AND THEN HAVING TO BACK OFF ON WHAT WE SAID.
UM, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH THAT SECTION OF THE LAW THAT, THAT, THAT PUTS THAT 45 DAYS INTO EFFECT? BECAUSE I, I KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS AN OPINION, BUT I'VE READ OTHER THINGS THAT SAY WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, WHAT I, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS IS, UM, FIRST WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME CHANGES TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO CHANGES TO THE MZDO.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE 35 AND THE 45.
AND I DID FIND YESTERDAY I WAS READING SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AND I FOUND THE 45 DAY THING.
UM, IT IS ON ZONING CHANGES, NOT IPS.
AND SO THERE WAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT NUANCE AND EVERYTHING.
UM, BUT THE, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND OTHERS AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA GET TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S CLEAR.
WE'RE GONNA BRING IN A TEXT AMENDMENT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE.
FIRST OF ALL, WE WANT THOSE NOTIFICATIONS TAKEN CARE OF THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, AND, AND THERE ARE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU DO PUSH IT OUT WAY EARLY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL, WE'VE LEARNED THAT 'CAUSE 'CAUSE THINGS CHANGE.
UM, WE ARE GONNA MAKE SURE WE'RE FINDING THE MOST UP TO DATE AND APPROPRIATE WAYS TO HANDLE THIS AND MAKE SURE NOTIFICATIONS ARE DONE EFFICIENTLY AND THOROUGHLY.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING, AT LEAST TO ME.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE JEFF ASKED, DOES THE 45 DAYS KICK IN AND WE GO, NO, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, EXCUSE ME, BLAH, BLAH, YADA, YADA.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET AN EMAIL SAYING, WELL, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID THAT THIS AND THAT.
I WAS MISTAKEN FROM OUR, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WAS MISTAKEN.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CHATTER IN OUR EARS BEHIND US WITH THE CROWD.
UM, THERE WERE THINGS THAT YOU DIDN'T HEAR.
THERE WERE THINGS THAT A LOT OF THINGS WERE GOING ON.
I GOT THE 45 DAYS AND 30 DAYS MIXED UP.
LIKE I SAID, I COULDN'T FIND THE 45 DAYS WHEN I LOOKED.
UM, AND NOW IT'S CLEAR WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, LUCKILY, UM, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO FIX THAT.
WE HAD A VERY NICE PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD A NICE MEETING, PUBLIC MEETING, UM, AND I THINK THEY LEARNED A LOT.
SO, UM, FROM, FROM THAT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD.
I, I MOVE THE WE TABLE THE MINUTES TILL THE NEXT MEETING.
ALRIGHT, NOW TO NEW BUSINESS, UH, WE HAVE CONSIDERATION OF AN IMP FOR SOME PARCELS ON THE NORTH END OF RIVERPORT.
AND LO AND BEHOLD, THERE IT IS.
SO THIS RIVERPORT COMMERCE PHASE THREE INITIAL MASTER PLAN, REAL BRIEF WITH THIS, UM, THE, IT INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 628 ACRES.
UM, PROPOSE MULTI-USE BUSINESS PARK AND EXTENSION OF RIVERPORT PARKWAY TO CONNECT TO THE FUTURE EXIT THREE INTERCHANGE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE SETTING HERE, IT IS JUST NORTH OF PHASE TWO
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OF THE EXISTING RIVERPORT DEVELOPMENT.THIS IS PHASE TWO RIGHT HERE, SHOW YOU.
SO THE PDD WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2009 AND MOST RECENTLY AMENDED IN LATE 2023.
UM, PHASES ONE AND TWO HAVE APPROVED INITIAL MASTER PLANS AND ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT.
AND, UM, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT FIRE STATION 84 IS LOCATED IN PHASE TWO.
SO THIS WILL BE JUST NORTH OF THAT.
UM, THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN SHOWS THE CONFIGURATION OF THE ROADWAYS AND POTENTIAL BUILDINGS, UM, AND OPEN SPACE HERE.
THIS IS AGAIN, THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY
AND YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE EXIT THREE RIGHT HERE.
HEY KATIE, CAN I INJECT A QUESTION RIGHT NOW? 'CAUSE THIS IS A STAFF QUESTION.
THERE IS A PARCEL OF PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE SHERWOOD TRACT.
SO WHO'S GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROAD THROUGH THE SHERWOOD TRACK? THE SHERWOOD TRACK DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY RIVERPORT PARKWAY WILL CONTINUE UP IN RIVERPORT PARKWAY IS BEING, IT'S A, IT'S A WHOLE GROUP OF FOLKS THAT ARE ALL INVOLVED WITH IT, AND THE APPLICANT CAN CERTAINLY EXPLAIN ALL THAT TO YOU.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALL PART OF THE WHOLE EXIT THREE AND MAKING SURE THE REPORT PARKWAY GOES WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
THEY WILL CONNECT TO THAT FROM THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
SO SOME OF THE FEES FOR SURE WOULD TRACK OUR, OUR SET ASIDE FOR THIS ROAD.
THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT NEGOTIATION THAN THAT'S ALL BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.
SO YOU HAVE 3.82 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE AND FABRICATION FACILITIES PROPOSED 86,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLEX SPACE, 140,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL TRUCK FACILITIES AND 3.25 MILES OF FOUR-LANE DIVIDED PARKWAY.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL INCLUDED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY REVIEW PDS AND DOCUMENT TRANSPORTATION RESPONSIBILITIES, AS WELL AS INCREASE COLLABORATION BETWEEN CITY STAFF AND S-C-D-O-T ON TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
WE DID BEGIN THIS WITH THE RIVERPORT PDD AND HAVE CONTINUED THROUGH THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN PROCESS.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF HARVILLE, JASPER COUNTY, AND S-C-D-O-T IS PART OF AN APPLICATION TO THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK, UM, FOR EXIT THREE AND RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THE PARKWAY EXTENSION IS TO BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION FOR LOCAL MATCH.
THE CITY DOES RECOMMEND BASED ON THE STANDARDS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE RIVERPORT PDD, THE STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN AS PROPOSED AND LAMAR OR FELIPE COME ON UP.
HEY, UH, THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION HAVING US TODAY.
I'M WITH THOMAS AND HEDEN, AND I'M REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT WITH THE GRAMBLING BROTHERS.
SO TO SUPPLEMENT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT KATIE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT, THE, AS WE'LL START WITH TRAFFIC.
SO THE CONFIGURATION OF THE PARKWAY TO SERVE ALL THESE PROPERTIES INSIDE THIS PDD ARE PART OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED FOR THE, UH, INTERCHANGE JUSTIFICATION THAT ANALYZED ALL THAT COURIER OF 95.
SO ALL THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THIS PROPERTIES ACCOUNTED THERE.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS A RESULT OF THE RECOMMENDATION OF THOSE STUDY.
SO FOUR LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAY, UH, WILL BE BUILT FROM THE CURRENT, UH, SECTION OF RIVERPORT PARKWAY THAT IS NEAR THE FIRE STATION, AND IT WILL GO ALL THE WAY UP TO EXIT THREE.
THE, UM, REGARDING STONE WATER, UH, THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED SO THE, UH, THE ROAD IS CAPTURE VIA PIPES INTO PONDS AND TREATED THAT WAY.
UH, SAME WITH ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING HERE.
IT WILL GO INTO THE PONDS AND THEN, UH, DISCHARGE INTO THE WETLAND ALPHAS AND ALL THE STORM DESIGN.
IT WILL BE, UH, IN CONFORMANCE OF STATE AND LOCAL, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND ORDINANCES.
UH, AS FAR OF, UH, UTILITIES GOES, THERE WILL BE A PUMP STATION LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL AREA OF PHASE THREE.
UH, THAT WILL DISCHARGE INTO THE EXISTING PUMP STATION LOCATED AT THE END OF RIVER, THE CURRENT RIVER PARKWAY.
THAT WILL BE A BEAUFORD JA PERONE AND MAINTAIN PUMP STATION.
THERE'S CAPACITY LEFT OVER IN THIS PUMP STATION THAT IS US TO DO THIS CONFIGURATION.
AND FROM THEN ON, IT WILL BE SERVED BY GRAVITY TO EACH ONE OF THESE BUILDINGS.
FOR THE WATER, THERE IS AN EXISTING 36 INCH MAIN THAT GOES THROUGH ALL,
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UH, THE, THE CURRENT PURPORT ROAD AND FOLLOWS ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE HARVILLE TREATMENT PLAN.TO THAT 36 INCH, THERE'S ALREADY BUILT A STAB OUTS THAT WE'RE USING AND COORDINATE WITH B FOUR JASPER TO CONNECT TO AND PROVIDE WATER FOR THIS AREA.
I THINK THAT THAT COVERS MOST OF LIKE THE, THE ENGINEERING KIND OF QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTION I'LL HAPPY TO ANSWER MR. FOREMAN.
UM, NO, I, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE UNUSUAL CASES WHERE IT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WANTED, EXACTLY WHERE WE WANTED.
AND
I DON'T THINK THERE IS, UH, AS, BUT ARE THERE ANY RESIDENCES ON THE BORDER OF THIS PROJECT? I THINK THAT'LL BE A ROUTINE QUESTION FROM HERE ON OUT.
SO YOU WANNA, YOU, YOU HANDLE IT.
SO AS FAR OF THE THE ADJACENT RESIDENCE, IT'S UH, WHAT'S THE NAME OF VER VER AND MICHAEL DEVELOPER CONVENING COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AS WELL.
AND THEY SEEM TO BE, MICHAEL IS REFERRED TO SAY, IN SUPPORT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, MICHAEL.
AND THIS THERE IS ALSO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, A PDD BUFFER AROUND THE PROPERTY.
AND MOST OF THESE AREAS ADJACENT BACK HERE WILL BE KEEP US AS WETLANDS RIGHT.
FOR EXCEPTION OF SOME OF THE PONDS THAT WILL BE THERE.
BUT ALL THAT PROVIDES SOME BUFFERING SCREENING FROM THAT.
BUT THESE, THESE ARE THE, THE CURRENT RESIDENCE, I BELIEVE THERE, THE, THESE ARE HOMES, THESE ARE, SORRY, MORNING MR. ZILLOW.
THERE ARE A FEW HOMES OUT THERE.
IT'S THE COBURN FAMILY AND SOME OF THEIR RELATIVES.
UM, WE DID HOLD A, A PUBLIC INFORMATION SESSION MEETING FOR EXIT THREE AND REALLY FOR THE, THE 4 0 4 PERMIT, I THINK FOUR MONTHS AGO.
AND MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY WERE PRESENT AND THEY HAVE SEEN THIS OVERALL, NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT THEY KNOW THE PLANS FOR
UM, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO HEAR IT FROM THEM.
UM, THE CITY HAS, THE CITY HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM AS WELL.
AND JUST TO MAKE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW OKAY.
I, I, I, I SURE WANT TO TALK TO 'EM.
IT, IT UNDERSTOOD, ESPECIALLY GIVEN
YES, THEY ARE, THEY ARE RESIDENTS.
IT'LL GET, IT ONLY GOES DOWNHILL FROM HERE.
UM, UH, WHICH IS WHY WE CLEARLY AS A PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENT, WE WERE SURE TO MAKE SURE THEY RECEIVE WELL, WE'VE CERTIFIED RECEIPTS THAT THESE APPLICATIONS WERE MM-HMM.
UM, THEY ARE A JASPER COUNTY RESIDENCE.
JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT PART OF IT.
ALSO VERY SIMILAR TO THE OTHER.
RIVERPORT'S HARDY HERE IN JASPER.
YOU CAN UNDERSTAND, UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I DON'T NEVER WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
WE WON'T BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THIS FOR SURE.
UM, AND I DID DIDN'T WANNA MENTION MICHAEL HARPER WITH RAMBLING DEVELOPMENT.
DON'T, NOT TO PUT HIM ON JUST FIVE, JUST MORNING ACKNOWLEDGE HE'S HERE TO HELP ADDRESS ANY, SO, SO, SO TELL ME, UM, HOW THEY FELT ABOUT IT, UM, WHEN Y'ALL HAD THE MEETING WITH THEM.
WELL, WHEN THEY WERE AT THE PUBLIC PUBLIC MEETING, THERE WERE JUST GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, JUST UNDERSTANDING THE TIMING OF THE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY.
I DIDN'T REALLY, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY NEGATIVE FEEDBACK FROM 'EM.
AND THEY WERE HAPPY WITH THE BUFFER ZONES THAT WERE OFFERED.
AND I MEAN, WE, WE DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THIS 50 FOOT PDD BUFFER AROUND IT.
UM, I, OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, JUST, I DIDN'T IN ANY SPECIFIC, SO I WANT ENOUGH NOTICE TO WHERE I CAN TALK TO THE RESIDENTS, UM, WITH A BIG PERIOD.
THIS IS IN, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
UM, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T, WE, WE WON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THE SAME THING THAT WE HAD IN RED DAM.
SO HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT WE GET NOTICE FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF? BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANYBODY'S WORD FOR THIS
UM, LIKE, LIKE I SAID, UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD MEMBERS OF THE, UM, CITY STAFF HAVE, HAVE REACHED OUT TO THEM AS WELL.
WE TALKED TO MR. HARPER, UM, FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS.
THAT WAS OUR FIRST QUESTION TOO, UH, ON THIS WAS, UM, THERE ARE RESIDENTS OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE ALL ALONE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.
UM, I THINK THAT BECAUSE YOUR RECOMMENDATION HERE, I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A CONDITION ON YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDATION
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THAT, UM, THAT WE PROVIDE COUNSEL AND YOU GUYS WITH THAT IF YOU WANT TO DO, MAKE IT THAT WAY.THERE, THERE IS NOT, UM, A FORMALIZED PROCESS.
WE DO HAVE THE RECEIPT RECEIPTS FROM WHERE THEY DID SEND OUT THE CERTIFIED INFORMATION TO THEM.
UM, AND THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO.
BUT I THINK IF, IF, IF, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I THINK THE BEST WAY TO DO IT, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT SHOW UP, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANY COMMENTS FROM THEM, WOULD BE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE WOULD BE POSSIBLE AND OR APPROPRIATE THAT WE GET A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING FROM THEM THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THEY HAVE NO, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
I THINK BECAUSE OF, OF THE WAY IT WORKS, UM, I, I CAN CAN CERTAINLY ASK YOU, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO TABLE SOMETHING.
UM, BUT I, AS FAR AS AS, AS A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS NOT A CONTRACTUAL MATTER FOR US TO DEAL WITH.
SO WE CAN PUT IN OUR APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL, UH, FINDING A RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNSEL GET THAT INFO, YOU KNOW, GET A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OBJECT OR, OR SAY, OH YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE FINE WITH THIS.
I, I THINK SINCE THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THE, WELL, THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING AND, AND IT IS NOTIFIED, BUT THAT IS OFFICIALLY, UM, ACCORDING TO WHERE STATE LAW HAS ASKED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY DO HAVE, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND OTHER THINGS, THEY HAVE MORE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.
I THINK THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO IT.
IF, IF WE, IF WE WERE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL, THERE'D BE A WORKSHOP PRIOR, RIGHT? UM, THAT IS UP TO THE COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT OUR CHOICE COUNCIL MAKES THAT, THAT RE THAT DECISION.
AND, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD IMAGINE WITH ANYTHING, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE CONCERNS ABOUT PUBLIC NOTIFICATION, UM, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY, THAT, THAT, THAT THAT'S WHAT I, YOU CAN RECOMMEND IF THERE'S A WORKSHOP THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS TO COME IN.
COUNSEL USUALLY HAS, TYPICALLY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A WORKSHOP.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, RICK, WE NEED TO KNOW CERTAIN THINGS BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS.
IF WE'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE MAKING A DECISION THAT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR US TO BE HERE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT WE GET SO THAT WE CAN MAKE 'EM, AND KNOWING THAT THE RESIDENTS, I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA, THAT I WANT TO BE FAIR TO BOTH SIDES, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET MORE THAN ONE DAY'S NOTICE.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE HERE AND THAT THEIR VOICE IS HEARD, UM, AND THAT THERE'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF EFFORT TAKEN TO PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY.
AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT, I DON'T MEAN, UM, UH, ANYTHING ELABORATE, I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FAIR.
UM, I DON'T HAVE, WHAT CAN WE DO UNDER OUR, UNDER OUR SETUP, UNDER ACROSS THE BOARD IN ANY KIND OF ZONING NOTIFICATION.
WE, WE PUT IT OUT THERE, WE PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE, WE SEND OUT THE, THE CERTIFIED LETTERS IS THE BEST WAY.
AND, AND WE GET THE APPLICANTS WHEN THEY SEND THOSE OUT, THEY SEND US BACK THE RES THE, THE RECEIPTS.
UM, I, I DO KNOW, LIKE I'VE MENTIONED, THAT THERE HAS BEEN, PER OUR, UM, CITY MANAGER, THERE HAS BEEN STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO THESE FOLKS AS WELL.
I DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL THING.
CAN WE DO THIS ONE WEEK BEFORE I SIT UP HERE? I KNOW OF ANY RESIDENCES ARE IMPACTED SO THAT I CAN AT LEAST TALK TO 'EM AND MAKE SURE, UM, THE WAY, THE WAY IT WORKS WITH, WITH THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AND, AND I, ONCE AGAIN, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO I AM NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT EX PARTE COMMUNICATION WITH THESE FOLKS BEFORE THAT THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
UM, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HEAR THE, HEAR THE
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CASE AT THE MEETING WITH ANY COMMENTS THAT COME THROUGH AND MAKE YOUR, YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.UM, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THROUGHOUT THE, THE ZONING WORLD AND, AND EVERYTHING, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
WELL, THEY, THEY GOT ONE DAY'S NOTICE, ONE DAY'S NOTICE WITH THAT METHOD.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THAT, SIR.
WE DO KNOW THAT A WEEK IS WHAT WE WERE GIVEN AND THEN IT HAD TO GO THROUGH THE MAIL AND THEY GOT ONE DAY'S NOTICE.
AND, AND WE DO KNOW THAT FROM, FROM THE LAST TIME PEOPLE DID GET THEM BEFORE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT 'EM THE DAY BEFORE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT THEM, OR, OR SOME PEOPLE GOT THEM EARLIER THAN THAT.
SO I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE THAT IN, IN CONCRETE.
SO RICK, NOT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE'RE KIND OF OFF TOPIC.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN THE COMMISSIONER COMMENT SECTION.
AT THE END OF THE MEETING, AS FAR AS THIS APPLICANT IS CONCERNED, THEY SAY THEY HAVE TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS.
AND I, I I BELIEVE WE NEED TO CONFIRM THAT.
WELL, LET ME ASK AND HAVE COUNSEL CONFIRM THAT AND WE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
WERE REGISTERED LETTERS SENT OUT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING YES.
RECEIPTS WHERE THEY WERE, WERE SENT, WE DON'T HAVE RESPONSES.
WELL, BUT YOU GOT THE RECEIPTS THAT THEY, THEY RECEIVED THEM, CORRECT? NO, SENT THEM.
SO YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY RECEIVED THEM OR NOT.
WE HAD NO WAY OF CONFIRMING THAT.
OTHER THAN REACHING OUT TO THEM.
NOW, WE DID TOOK THE EXTRA STEP TO DELIVER TO THE LOCAL MAIL OFFICE TOO, BECAUSE IT WAS DURING THE HURRICANE SEASON THAT WE WERE WONDERING IF WE WERE SENDING FROM GEORGIA.
SO WE DELIVER STRAIGHT TO THE MAIL OFFICE.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN THE POST OFFICE HERE.
UM, SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN YOU SEND THOSE LETTERS OUT, IT'S NOT A RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED WITH 'EM.
I I DON'T, I DON'T DO CERTIFIED MAILINGS.
UM, WELL, NO, I'M, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
IF, IF ASHLEY, DO YOU KNOW, WE, IF I, IF I SEND A LETTER, LET'S SAY MY INSURANCE COMPANY, I SEND REGISTERED LETTER WITH A RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THIS SET UP.
UM, THE, THEY DID THE EVERYTHING.
BY THE WAY, THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S PERFECT.
I'M SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE.
I UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.
UM, WE'VE ALSO MADE SURE THAT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THROUGH OTHER THINGS, WE'VE GOT THE ME THE WORD OUT THAT TO THEM TODAY.
UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE VIGILANT ABOUT GETTING IT UNTIL WE CAN.
BUT CHANGING THE ORDINANCE CAN'T HAPPEN INSTANTANEOUSLY.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
I, I DO BELIEVE, AND, AND, AND I WOULDN'T SAY THIS, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW I, I SPENT MANY HOURS SINCE THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE RESIDENCES OF THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION NEAR THE PREVIOUS APPLICATION.
BOTH THE ONES IN THE COUNTY AND THE ONES IN THE CITY.
I, I OFTEN TIMES OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICE, UM, I WON'T, THIS, I WON'T PEOPLE NOTIFIED.
I'M NOT TRYING TO PULL ANYTHING BY ANYONE.
I, BUT I DO BELIEVE THE MOST CL THE CLEANEST, THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO THIS IS FOR YOU TO PUT THAT, YOU CAN PUT IT VERY ADAMANTLY TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL TAKES YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO HEART.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THESE NOTIFICATION PROCESSES AS WELL.
UM, IT IT, IT PUTS YOUR FEELINGS OUT THERE VERY WELL.
AND, UM, THEY GET THE FINAL DECISION ON, ON THE, ON THE MATTER ANYWAY.
UM, THE REASON THAT, THAT I BRING IT UP AND THE REASON IT'S SO ADAMANT IS SO THAT EVERYBODY PUTS ON THEIR THINKING CAP.
AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN WHEN AGREED.
YOU KNOW, HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.
AND I HOPE THAT WE ARE VERY CAREFUL IN THE FUTURE ON RESPECTING EVERYBODY THAT'S BEING IMPACTED.
UH, THAT WOULD MAKE ME NOTHING BUT HAPPY AND ANYTHING ELSE IS NOT, AND WHO KNOWS WHERE WE'LL ALL BE NEXT YEAR.
BUT, UH, THE, THESE GENTLEMEN KNOW THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED.
UM, I THINK WE HAD A TEAMS MEETING AND THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT WE BROUGHT UP, KATIE AND I WAS, UM, WHO IS THIS? AND DID THEY HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM SO THAT THAT CONVERSATION WE KNEW WAS, WAS, WAS WELL, AND, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE PUBLIC MEETING FROM, FROM A FEW MONTHS BACK.
SO DID YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR REVIEW NOTES? WE HAVE.
WE HAVE THE, THE RICK TEAMS MEETING.
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YOU BE HAPPY IF WE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A STIPULATION THAT THE COUNCIL GET AN MOU FROM THOSE FOLKS? YES.AND I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
YOU DO, YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, I AM THOSE FOLKS.
IT WAS AN AWFUL FEELING WHEN ALL OF THOSE FOLKS FIND FOLKS COMING HERE THAT I KNOW AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE HERE.
UM, AND I DON'T EVER WANNA BE IN THAT SITUATION AGAIN.
UM, I, I GOT A LOT OF INFORMA MORE INFORMATION FROM THEM THAN I GOT ANYWHERE ELSE.
AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
AND, AND, AND I'M, I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE BIT PERSONAL.
I, I TRY NOT TO DO THIS, BUT I'M TO DO IT.
UM, I DID TALK WITH ONE OF THE FAMILIES AND, UM, THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH, WITH SOME OF THE, UM, UTILITY EASEMENTS AND SOME OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
AND WHEN, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THAT, WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND IT, WHEN YOU SEE IT, IT, IT, IT IS VERY REAL.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS CLEAR.
AS I MENTIONED, I FOUND SOMETHING YESTERDAY THAT WAS IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SECTION AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? DIRECT? ALRIGHT, JEFF.
UH, MY QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY A LITTLE SIMPLER.
UH, IN THE, THE LOWER RIGHT HAND PORTION HERE, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED LAY DOWN AREA.
WHAT EXACTLY IS THE LAY DOWN AREA? WHAT'S ITS FUNCTION KINDA LIKE A, LIKE A SUPPORTING TRACTOR TERMINAL.
LIKE YOU CAN PARK SOME TRUCKS THERE.
NOW THERE'S SCREENING REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT ARE PUT ON THE IP THAT CODIFY THAT REQUIRE TO MEET IT ACCORDING TO THE MCDO.
SO ALL OF THAT IF, IF TO WHERE TO USE IT.
FINALLY, FOR AS A LAY DOWN YARD, THERE'S REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IN, IN THE REVIEW BY LIKE A TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION SITE, RIGHT.
YOU HAVE LAY DOWN AREAS IF YOU'RE DOING SO THAT'S A TEMPORARY LAY DOWN AREA.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, IT COULD BE TEMPORARY, IT COULD BE A USER OF THIS WAREHOUSE SAY, HEY LOOK, I NEED SOME EXTRA PARKING AREA FOR MY TRUCKS.
CAN I HAVE A USE THIS AREA? RIGHT.
AND THEN WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND IT WILL BE PROPERLY FANCY SCREEN.
AND WHAT STAFF ASKED DURING THE REVIEW PROCESS WAS THAT THEY PUT IN THE, UM, SCREENING REQUIREMENTS SO THAT IT'S NOT VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, WELL MY THOUGHT WASN'T SO MUCH OF WORRY ABOUT WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE FROM THE ROAD.
'CAUSE IT'S MOSTLY TRUCK TRAFFIC ANYWAY.
UM, I, I KIND OF HAD AN IDEA WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FOR LAY DOWN YARD.
WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF TRUCKS IN THERE DOING A LOT OF DRIPPING AND LEAKING THAT TRUCKS DO, WHAT'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT'S GONNA BE BE DONE THERE AND IN THE REST OF THE PROPERTY? YOU KNOW, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THIS TRUCK TRAFFIC AND STUFF THAT LEAKS FROM TRUCKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY SIT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.
WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION DO WE DO THERE? SO OBVIOUSLY THERE, THERE'S, DEPENDING ON THE, ON THE USAGE YOU USE, RIGHT? YOU BRING BY POINT THERE SOME EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY DOES LEAK.
RIGHT? BUT AS PART OF LIKE WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, WE HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT USAGE AND UNDERSTAND, OKAY, WHAT IS THE DETRIMENT TO THE STORM WATER QUALITY? WE PROVIDE THOSE PMPS TO TREAT SOME OF THAT WATER QUALITY.
IF THEY GO IN NEXT OF THAT, THEN YOU HAVE TO PUT ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL BPS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY HAVE A MECHANICAL SHOP, THOSE HAVE TO HAVE A PROPER LIKE OLD WATER SEPARATOR AND THINGS BEFORE THEY PRIORITY DO THE DISCHARGE.
IF THEY QUALIFY ENVIRONMENTAL DISCHARGE, THEN THERE WILL BE APPROPRIATE BPS TO TREAT THAT DISCHARGE.
I HAD JUST A CALL, UH, I DIDN'T FIND ANYWHERE IN THE APPLICATION WHERE IT TOLD ME HOW MUCH WETLAND AND UPLAND THERE WAS IN THIS SECTION.
SO IN THE, I CAN SPEAK TO THE, THE OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? SO THE OPEN SPACE PROVIDED ON THIS PD IS ABOUT 250 ACRES.
THAT'S REPRESENTED ROUGHLY 49% OF THE TOTAL AREA.
THE, AND IN THAT BREAKDOWN, WE HAVE 72 ACRES OF PURE GREEN SPACE.
74 ACRES OF WETLAND, 76 ACRES OF BUFFERS AND LAGO THAT REPRESENT 50%, THAT'S TOTAL 25 ACRE.
AND YOU CAN FIND ALL THAT BREAKDOWN ON, ON EXHIBITS THAT ARE IN THE, IN THE BOOK.
LIKE THEY, THEY HAVE ALL THAT BREAKDOWN THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
OH, I TRIED TO ADD IT UP AND IT GOT A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR ME.
UM, PDD ALLOWS BUFFERS OF 50 FEET AT THE EXTERNAL BOUNDARIES.
AND I WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED WHEN I WENT DOWN 17 AND IN THE FIRST PHASE, LAMAR, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THERE IS A GIANTLY TALL BUILDING REAL CLOSE TO 17.
IT MEETS THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE SCALE OF THAT BUILDING AND THE FUTURE BUILDINGS IS SUCH
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THAT I THINK WE NEED BIGGER BUFFERS TO MASK THE PHYSICAL SIZE OF THESE THINGS.I MEAN, THE SCALE IS SO MUCH WHEN THEY'RE 50 FEET TALL, THEY'RE REALLY OVERWHELMING.
AND I TRIED TO TAKE A TAPE MEASURE TO THE PLANS.
I THINK THAT IN GENERAL, I THINK THE CLOSEST ONE I FOUND WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET TO THE ROAD.
BUT, AND, AND I FORGET WHICH ONE IT WAS, I CAN FIND IT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LARGER BUFFER.
AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT 'CAUSE THE PDD SAYS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO LOOK AT BIGGER BUFFERS TO HIDE, TO HIDE THE, TO MASK SOFTEN THE, THE BULK OF THESE BUILDINGS, THEY ARE JUST MONSTERS.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE FACT OF, OF THE, THE VISUAL FROM THE ROADWAY? RIGHT? YEAH.
JUST AS YOU'VE SEEN ON 17TH, WHICH IS THE ONLY SITUATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE THIS, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY BURIED INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND, AND IT'S BEEN CONTEMPLATED AND I UNDER, I I UNDERSTAND 'CAUSE THAT IS A LARGE BUILDING, BUT THIS IS THE CORRIDOR THAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE CITY.
I THINK IT, AND TO KEEP IN MIND, NOT TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT ONE THING WE DIDN'T POINT OUT IS THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BUFFERING THAT HAS OCCURRED ALONG THE WILDLIFE REFUGE.
AND I REALIZE THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, RIGHT? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF CONCESSIONS GIVEN, UH, ON TOP OF WHAT HAD BEEN A PRIOR SALE TO THOSE GUYS FOR ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AND MEETING ENVIRONMENTAL CONSTRAINTS AND PUSHING THIS DEVELOPMENT AWAY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN A VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA, WHICH WE HAVE GONE ABOVE BEYOND BUFFERING.
SO WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE AS MUCH LEADING UP INTO THIS AREA.
AND AGAIN, I I ASK THAT YOU AT LEAST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT THIS WHOLE AREA IN RIVERPORT SINCE 2008 HAS BEEN CONSIDERED THE BUSINESS PARK CORRIDOR FOR THIS AREA.
I KNOW, RIGHT? AND IT WON'T BE, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM HIGHWAY 17, RIGHT? YEAH.
IF YOU'RE IN THIS AREA SEEING THESE BUILDINGS, IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE BUSINESS IN THIS AREA.
AND IT IS A BUSINESS MARK SURROUNDING ALL OF THIS.
NOW, CLEARLY AS THE USES MOVE AND IT TRANSITIONS UP TO EXIT THREE, IT BECOMES A COMMERCIAL USE AND THEN RESIDENTIAL EVEN NORTH OF THAT.
SO THAT'S A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
YOU WON'T HAVE TO EXPERIENCE IT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE YOU, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE ROAD, BUT I THINK I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING CLOSER THAN A HUNDRED WHEN I MEASURED.
I MEAN, YES, THERE'S A F THERE'S, YES.
I MEAN THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GRADING THAT HAS TO OCCUR.
THERE'S THE ROAD IN THE, IN THE PARKWAY ITSELF AND IN ANY, SO THERE WILL BE SOME, SOME TYPE OF GREEN AREA BETWEEN THAT AND THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING.
I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST ASK YOU TO BE SENSITIVE TO IT.
SO, UH, AND THEN KATIE'S ALREADY ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT WHO BUILDS RIVERPORT PARKWAY.
YOU SAY IT'S ALREADY COVERED BY EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
I'M OKAY THERE, UH, UM, WASTEWATER I LOOKED AT, AND MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD YOUR WASTEWATER DRAWING.
I HAVE IT HARD COPY, BUT I DON'T HAVE, I DO.
SO THAT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR QUESTION? ALL RIGHT.
I SAW WHAT I LOOKED LIKE THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE COLLECTING WASTEWATER IN A SERIES OF GRAVITY STRUCTURES THAT FED RIGHT INTO BUFORT JASPER'S SEWER LINE.
AND THERE WAS A SECTION OF FOUR INCH FORCE MAIN THAT I SCRATCHED MY HEAD ON AND SAY, WHAT IS THIS? IT LOOKS LIKE THE WHOLE PROPERTY'S DRAINING BY GRAVITY INTO JASPER BUFORD JAS WATER.
YEAH, HE DID MENTION IT EARLIER.
SO BECAUSE OF THIS, THIS PUMP STATION ALREADY BEING LIKE DESIGNED TO HAVE A CERTAIN REACH, RIGHT? THERE IS AN ECON ECONOMY OF I GUESS BUILDING AND SCALE THAT YOU CAN BASICALLY SERVE THIS FIRST PROPERTIES WITH GRAVITY.
RIGHT? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF VERY QUICKLY THEY START BUILDING HERE AND THEY GOT SOME USERS HERE AS THEY WANNA MOVE, WE CAN ENABLE UTILITIES VERY QUICK TO THEM BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TO BUILD A CERTAIN SECTION OF GRAVITY FROM THEN ON.
YOU WILL HAVE A FORCE MAIN THAT COMES UP TO THIS PUMP STATION, THAT PUMP STATION BRANCHES OUT TO COVER ALL THAT AREA OVER THERE.
BUT THAT CANNOT BE REACHED BY GRAVITY.
'CAUSE AT SOME POINT YOU ENTER AN AREA WHERE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO KEEP EXTENDING GRAVITY.
BUT YOU HAD A SERIES OF STRUCTURES ALONG THE ROAD YEP.
THAT IT, IT JUST, I THOUGHT THAT THE WHOLE SYSTEM WAS DRAINING IN BY GRAVITY INTO BEAUFORT JASPER'S COLLECTOR.
ULTIMATELY THAT'S, I MEAN, THE ULTIMATE TERMINAL POINT OF, OF ALL THAT EH, SEWAGE
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MOVING THIS PUMP STATION THAT THEN PUMPS INTO HIGHWAY 17 AND THEN BACK UP.SO THE FIRST SECTION, THE FIRST LEG IS A GRAVITY SECTION THAT CONNECTS HERE UPON THIS POINT WITH THE FORCE MADE THAT DISCHARGES FROM THIS GRAVITY FROM THIS PUMP STATION THAT HAS A FORCE METER.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE COLLECTING THE NEW SECTION THREE MM-HMM.
WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A SCHEME OF WHAT IS CALLED PUMPING AND DUMPING.
BECAUSE THERE'S ALL REACT CAPACITY ON, ON ON 17 FOR THE B FOUR JASPER FACILITIES.
SO THE WAY WE IDENTIFY CAPACITY ON THIS PUMP STATION, SO THAT ENABLED THIS AREA.
SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE SENDING IN A CASCADE EFFECT.
SO ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.
ON THE BUFFERS, UM, IN FRONT OF THESE GREAT BIG BUILDINGS, ALL THESE WAREHOUSES, WE'VE GOT ALL THE WAREHOUSES TOGETHER AND THAT'S, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
I JUST SAY WHEN YOU GET NEAR THE RESIDENCE, IT'S JUST CONCENTRATE ON GOOD BUFFERS FOR THE, FOR THAT.
UM, BUT, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COVER UP THAT BUILDING.
UM, AND I, I AGREE WITH THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE, BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND YOU SURE EVEN, YOU KNOW, 200 FOOT A BUFFER WOULDN'T COVER THAT BUILDING.
BUT JUST WHEN WE GET AROUND THE RESIDENCIES, I WOULD JUST LIKE Y'ALL TO JUST BE MINDFUL TO BE BE CAREFUL AROUND THE EXISTING RESIDENCIES.
NOT JUST JUST JUST JOB, BUT ALSO FUTURE JOBS.
AND, AND FULL, FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, ONCE YOU, LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU WANNA BE CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDING.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU'VE GOT A NEWER HOUSE RIGHT HERE.
I BELIEVE THIS WAS AN EXISTING ONE.
THIS IS ALL THE COBRA AND TRACK, LIKE WE MENTIONED, THERE WAS A 50 FOOT PDD BUFFER AROUND THIS.
MM-HMM
WELL, FOR THE WILDLIFE REFUGE AND OTHER, THE CONSTRAINTS FOR THE 4 0 4 PERMITS.
SO THIS AREA, I DON'T WANNA MISLEAD ANYBODY TO SAY IT'LL NEVER BE USED.
IT MAY BE A POND BACK HERE THAT'S USED FOR SOME TYPE OF BORROW SOURCE FOR DIRT TO BUILD THIS.
BUT THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF JUST NATURAL SCREENING THAT WILL OCCUR.
YOU'LL HAVE THIS BIG WETLAND AND THE PRESERVE BUFFERS RIGHT NOW IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A POND IN THIS CORNER JUST 'CAUSE IT'S SUCH A TIGHT AREA TO GET INTO, JUST FINANCIALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO BUILD A BUILDING.
SO IT'S PRETTY WELL CONSTRAINED.
AND THERE IS, AND AND WE DON'T HAVE A TIMING ON THIS, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF, JUST SO IT'S NOT LOST ON ANYBODY.
THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS THE PROPOSED DOMINION ENERGY, UH, TRANSMISSION MAIN.
IT'S A PROPOSED, IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED SINCE 2009 AS A OVERHEAD ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION AND UNDERGROUND GAS TRANSMISSION MAIN TO SERVE.
UM, SHERWOOD HELPED TIE INTO THE SYSTEM THAT WILL SERVE THE CITY'S BUSINESS PARK.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A SOUTHERN, WHOLE SOUTHERN LOOP FOR JASPER COUNTY.
UM, SO THERE WILL BE SOME, THERE WILL BE SOME SEPARATION ALONG THIS COMMON PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF THIS LOCATION AND THIS LINE.
AND TO BE HONEST, WE'D LIKE THE LOCATION OF WHERE IT WAS SET.
WE HAVE THIS BIGGER WETLAND AND WE CAN'T MAKE APPLICATION FOR DOMINION ENERGY AS FAR AS ANY IMPACTS FOR WETLANDS.
THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE THOSE ON THEIR OWN.
SO WE LEAVE THOSE AS NON-PRESERVED AND THEY COME BACK LATER.
HOWEVER, THEY HAVE A THRESHOLD FOR HOW MANY THEY CAN ACTUALLY TYPICALLY APPLY FOR AND THEY TRY TO KEEP IT BELOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT.
SO IT JUST, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS WETLAND REALLY NARROWS DOWN TO THIS NARROW POINT RIGHT.
SO THAT THEREFORE THE LOCATION OF THE EASEMENT WAS PUSHED AS FAR TO THE WEST AS POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE ANY IMPACTS THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO DEAL WITH.
JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC.
JEFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH OUR COMMENT ON YOUR HONOR? I MOVE THAT THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL APPROVE ALL OF THIS PROJECT WITH THE PREREQUISITE, UH, THAT, UH, RECOMMENDATION THAT THE, UM, DEVELOPER SUPPLY MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, UM, ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT OPPOSE THE PROJECT.
SORRY TO PUT YOU THROUGH THE SENSITIVITY BASED ON THE, YOU SHOULD BE USED TO IT
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THAT'S A GOOD POINT.SORRY, JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY, RAISE A POINT.
I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU JUST VOTED, BUT JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, THIS, THE RECOMMENDATION YOU'RE MAKING IS RELATIVE TO IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
IT'S NOT A BLANKET FOR IMMEDIATE, ANYBODY ONLY, ONLY THOSE IMMEDIATELY ADJOINING PROPERTY THAT'D BE CAPTURED IN THE MINISTRY.
IN MY EYES, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE REASONABLE.
THEY, I, I WOULDN'T EXPECT FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING SUPER UNREASONABLE AND WE SAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA APPROVE.
UM, AND WE REALIZE THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION AND WE UNDERSTAND.
I, WE ARE NOW READY FOR THE PROJECT MANAGER REPORT.
JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS SINCE WE LAST MET.
UM, LAST NIGHT WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE FINDINGS FOR THE 2 78, UM, STUDY THAT THE CITY OF HARDY V IS CONDUCTING FROM ARGENT BOULEVARD OUT TO HIGHWAY 17.
UM, SO THOSE FINDINGS WERE PRESENTED, IT WAS RECORDED BY OUR MEDIA STAFF.
SO IF YOU MISSED IT, YOU CAN, UM, WATCH THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT FOR THAT ACTUALLY LAST NIGHT.
SO, UM, WE OF COURSE HAD THE PUBLIC MEETING FOR THE HILTON HEAD, LAKES WEST PDD, WHICH THEN IT WAS WITHDRAWN.
UM, CAN I ASK, STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.
THERE WAS THIS PUBLIC MEETING.
WHERE WAS IT ANNOUNCED? WE ALL KIND OF MISSED IT SOMEHOW.
IT WAS THE APPLICANT'S MEETING, THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSIBILITY IN FROM YOU, UM, REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
DID THEY ADVERTISE IT OR I MEAN, THEY SENT OUT NOTIFICATIONS AND, AND, AND ADVERTISED IT.
OH, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED.
I MUST, I MUST HAVE BEEN UNDER A ROCK.
WHO SET THE DATE FOR THAT MEETING? THE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE, UM, WORKED WITH, WITH THE AVAILABILITY OF ROOM AND SPACE.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY SAID, OH, HOW, HOW WOULD WE KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING WAS THERE.
THE PART OF THE PRESENTATION AT THE, WHEN IT DOES COME BACK WAS GOING TO BE A A, AN UPDATE FOR YOU ON, ON THAT AND THE BETWEEN THEM AND THE PUBLIC, WHAT THEY CAN'T GOT OUT OF THAT WAS THEY NEED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
THEY NEED TO RETHINK SOME THINGS.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY, THEY WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION.
I'VE GOT, UM, BECAUSE I DID THOSE MEETINGS I WOULD THINK WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO US, UM, IF WE ATTEND OR NOT.
UM, AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT WAS, THAT THAT IS NOT A STATE REQUIREMENT.
THAT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PUT REQUIREMENTS ON.
UM, BUT, UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST THAT IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY DO HAVE THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, SOMEONE HAD TO APPROVE THEM USING THE, ANY ANYBODY CAN THE FACILITY, ANYBODY CAN RENT THE FACILITY THAT THEY JUST CALL THE, BUT SOME IT WAS NOT, IT WAS NOT, THIS WAS NOT A CITY MEETING.
I SAID THE CITY WASN'T PART OF THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS OR THE CITY KNEW WE WERE OBVIOUSLY THERE.
UM, OKAY, LET ME SQUARE THIS UP.
LET LEMME SEE IF I CAN SQUARE THIS UP.
WE RECOMMENDED, BECAUSE I RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE ONE TO TWO MEETINGS BETWEEN THE BUILDER AND THE RESIDE OF RED DAM.
THAT WAS THE END OF THE DISCUSSION WHERE MY EARS WERE AVAILABLE.
SOMEBODY SET A MEETING AND THERE WAS A MEETING THAT TOOK PLACE.
NOW WE RECOMMENDED THAT THE MEETING TAKE PLACE.
THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU.
WE WEREN'T NOTIFIED OF THE MEETING.
THEY, THEY SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED YOU BILL THE HOMEOWNER.
THE HOMEOWNER THAT WAS IN QUESTION, MR. TILLMAN.
MR. TILLMAN CALLED ME AND SAID, RICHARD, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WERE YOU NOTIFIED OF THIS MEETING? AND I SAID, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
AND HE SAYS, WELL, WE'RE HAVING A MEETING ON THIS DATE AND THAT'S NOT THE, WE WILL MAKE SURE IN THE FUTURE.
THIS WAS THIS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND WE ARE TRYING TO, WE'RE TRYING TO REMEDY ALL THIS.
WE ARE NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT WORSE.
WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT DEFENDING THE ACTIONS OF ANYONE.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN MAKE IT THAT THEY ALSO INCLUDE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THOSE NOTIFICATIONS.
BUT THIS WAS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION AND I APOLOGIZE.
ANYTHING WE HAD TO DO WITH IT, WE ALSO, WE FOUND OUT WE WENT.
UM, BUT IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WERE, WHEN, WHEN YOU FOUND OUT, HOW HARD WOULD IT HAVE BEEN TO SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO US SAYING, HEY GUYS, THE MEETING THAT YOU REQUESTED IS GONNA BE ON THIS DATE.
AND, AND I, AND I DO APOLOGIZE.
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THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.WE HAD, WE HAD THE HURRICANE, WE HAD THE STORM, WE HAD A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON AND I APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN'T FIX THAT NOW.
ALL I CAN DO IS FIX IN THE FUTURE.
I DO KNOW THAT THE INTENT OF THAT MEETING AND, AND I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE MR. AZLA THERE AS WELL AS THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND SOME COUNTY COUNCIL FOLKS WERE THERE.
AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT I WAS VERY PLEASED TO SEE, UM, IN THE FUTURE, WE CAN FIX THAT.
UM, BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT THEY LISTENED AND THAT APPLICATION WAS WITHDRAWN TO BE ABLE TO REMEDY THAT AND FIX IT.
THEY ALSO ASSURED US WHEN WE ACCEPTED THE WITH WITHDRAWAL, WE ASSURED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RESTART FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS AND DO IT BETTER.
SO THAT WAS ONE THING THAT WE DID MAKE SURE WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, EVERY TIME WE DO THIS, WE, WE, WE LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND I HOPE TO KEEP LEARNING.
OH, WELL I, I JUST THINK I, I I, I, YEAH, I'M GLAD THAT THEY WITHDREW AND, AND AND I'M GLAD THEY HAD THE MEETING.
BUT MY POINT, AND, AND RICK, I'M GLAD RICK WAS THERE, BUT HE FOUND OUT OUTSIDE.
AND I ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN'T FIX THAT, SIR.
I CANNOT FIX IT AT THIS POINT.
I CAN DO BETTER, BUT YOU CAN FIX IT GOING AHEAD.
I, MY MY INTENTION IS NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE.
UH, AND, AND IF, AND IF IT'S A SIMPLE MISTAKE, I'M, I MAKE MISTAKES EVERY DAY.
I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT IT'S A MISTAKE.
BUT IF YOU ARE SITTING IN MY BRAIN, I OFTEN WONDER WHY THINGS HAPPENED THE WAY THEY DID.
AND SO I I FEEL RELIEVED THAT YOU HAVE STRAIGHTENED THIS MATTER OUT, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS BOARD FUNCTIONS.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S HERE.
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
THAT'S REALLY ALL I WANT TO SAY.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS TO NOTE.
UM, WENDY'S AT EXIT FIVE DID OPEN, SO THEY HAVE A BRAND NEW WENDY'S AT EXIT FIVE.
UM, THAT WAS A LONG TIME COMING.
UM, THERE IS A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE ON WHITE HARDY BOULEVARD ADJACENT TO THE POST OFFICE.
UM, IT WAS ON STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE TODAY WE DO HAVE THE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS, WHICH DO, UM, THEY ARE THE FIRST PROJECT TO REALLY REFLECT WHAT WE WERE ASKING FOR IN OUR WHITE HEART BOULEVARD PLAN IN OUR NEW TRANSECT ZONES.
UM, SO WE, WE DO HAVE THOSE, UM, AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING.
THEY'RE NOT FINAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE YET.
WE JUST HAD THE FIRST MEETING THIS MORNING.
UM, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT TRACK.
AND THEN, UM, SOUTH POINT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ON FOR SECOND READING, UM, TOMORROW.
WHERE'S SOUTH POINT? WHERE'S SOUTH POINT? I CAN'T KEEP HIM STRAIGHT.
THAT'S THE ONE, THAT'S THE ONE THAT GOES BETWEEN TWO 70 I 95 AND JOHN SMITH ROAD.
UM, YOU DID THE ROAD AND INFRASTRUCTURE MASTER REVIEW.
UM, NOW WE'RE DOWN TO COMMISSIONER COMMENT SECTION.
UM, I, AT, AT OUR LAST MEETING WE DISCUSSED THE, UM, ONGOING SAGA OF THE EFFORT TO TRY AND GET A JOINT MEETING OR A JOINT DISCUSSION BETWEEN UH, US OUR PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE COUNTY AND, UH, REQUESTED THAT THAT WE TAKE ACTION ON THAT.
HAS ANYTHING BEEN DONE ABOUT THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, AND I WAS GOING TO, TO INCLUDE THAT, BUT I I FIGURED THAT I HAD SAID ENOUGH TODAY
SO, UM, WE, UM, WE'LL BE GETTING WITH MR. SIPPEL.
WE MET WITH THE, UM, PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE JASPER COUNTY AND SHE IS GOING TO GET HER CHAIR.
AND MR. SIPPEL AND KATIE AND I, WE THOUGHT WE'D ALL, UM, GET TOGETHER, HAVE A LITTLE MEETING PLAN ON AN AGENDA.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR EARLY DECEMBER.
UM, THERE WAS NO WAY WITH OUR MOVE IN THIS BUILDING 'CAUSE WE ARE MOVING OFFICES AND THERE WAS NO MAY WAY WITH THE COUNTY'S U-HAUL AREA, UM, CHANGES AND ORDINANCES, UM, THAT THEY HAD TIME.
SO WE, WE AGREED THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EARLY DECEMBER AND WE WILL MEET AND, AND SCHEDULE THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, HAS A VERY THOROUGH AND
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COMPLETE AGENDA.WOULD THAT BE AN EVENING MEETING LIKE WE HAD BEFORE THAT, THAT TO BE, TO BE DETERMINED THAT, THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND.
I WOULD RECOMMEND AN EVENING MEETING.
WE WILL, WE WILL SEE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR EVERYONE, SIR.
AND I'M, I'M REALLY GLAD YOU'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH THAT.
UM, AS SOON AS WE, UM, IT WAS, WE'D BEEN EXCHANGING PHONE CALLS AND, AND PLAYING, PLAYING PHONE TAG A LITTLE BIT AND THEN WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND, AND DID THAT I I PROBABLY, I'M, I'M ESSENTIALLY AWAY FOR THE MONTH OF DECEMBER, BUT, BUT I DO, I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING IT AND I, I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
WELL THAT'S JUST THE SETUP MEETING FOR THE MEETING.
SO THERE'S NOTHING SAYS IT'S GONNA BE IN DECEMBER, JEFF? NO, NO.
I THINK SHE'S SAYING THE MEETING WILL BE IN DECEMBER.
WE'RE HOPING FOR THE MEETING IN EARLY DECEMBER, BUT THAT, THAT, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF LEAVING PARTS TO IT TOO.
'CAUSE WE GOT ANOTHER JEFF THAT'LL PROBABLY BE IN LONDON.
UH, ANYTHING ELSE JEFF? STEVE? WELL I'M, I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU HAVE SERVICE FLAGS.
THAT'S, THAT'S A NICE, NICE TOUCH.
BUT YOU'RE MISSING ONE SPACE FORCE.
THAT, THAT WAS, THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, UH, UM, AREA OF THE CITY.
I WILL CERTAINLY PASS THAT ALONG AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT IS NOTED.
AND AND THEY, YOU SHOULD TELL THEM THEY SHOULD ADD THE SPACE FORCE FLAG AND THE M-P-O-W-M-I-A.
UM, I, I NOTICED THAT, UH, THE, THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT, UH, RIVERTON AND SUN CITY ARE UP AND WORKING.
I NO, NO, NOT THE ONE AT SUN CITY.
UM, I DIDN'T NOTICE 'EM, I WAS TOLD VERY POLITELY YOU RAN A RED.
YEAH, WE DON'T, SUN CITY DOESN'T HAVE THEIRS YET, BUT NEW RIVER HAS THEIRS AND IT'S REALLY HELPFUL.
MADE A BIG DIFFERENCE ONCE YOU KNOW THEY'RE THERE.
ALRIGHT, RICK, ANYTHING? NO SIR.
YEAH, I HAVE UM, PROBABLY MORE OF A QUESTION.
I SAW AN ARTICLE THIS MORNING ABOUT, UH, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK AND FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS.
AND APPARENTLY THERE'S SHORTFALLS IN, OR, UH, PROJECTS ARE COSTING MORE THAN THEY'VE BEEN FUNDED FOR.
AND THE EXIT THREE WAS SOME BIG MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, UH, SHORT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK FUNDING.
AND I'M WONDERING HOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW THAT'S BEING TAKEN CARE OF AT WISH WE'D ASK WHEN, WHEN MICHAEL AND AND LAMAR WERE STILL HERE? 'CAUSE THEY CERTAINLY WORK ON THAT A LOT.
UM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND, AND I WILL CERTAINLY GET MR. DAVIS OR, OR, OR SOMEONE TO, TO PROVIDE A REPORT TO YOU ON, ON ALL OF THAT.
THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN SHORTFALLS ACROSS THE BOARD, OUR DISEASE IN THIS SITUATION.
AND ONE THING THAT WE, WE'VE BEEN PUSHING SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME WITH, WITH EXIT THREE IS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS FUNDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF IT.
AND THEY ARE, UH, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, MAKING IT UP FOR THOSE SHORTFALLS.
AND, AND WE ARE, WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY TO EXIT THREE, UM, HAPPENING.
SO I, BUT I WILL GET THAT DEFINED AND I'LL GET MR. DAVIS TO, TO PROVIDE US.
I WAS SURPRISED HOW MANY PROJECTS STATEWIDE WERE UNDERFUNDED.
I THINK THAT'S, THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN PROGRESS.
YOU KNOW, THINK THAT'S, AND THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ME BECAUSE IT HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET.
THE DANGER OF THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BOARD AND, AND THE WAY IT'S SET UP FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS NOT A COMPLETE FUNDING SOURCE.
AND, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE STRATFORD AND GRAMBLING BROTHERS AND, AND ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT.
THE ONLY THING I HAVE WAS KIND OF A FOLLOW UP ON A COMMENT THAT WE MADE LAST MONTH ABOUT CHANGING THE MZDO CONCERNING NOTIFICATIONS TO IMPACTED, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS.
BUT I THINK YOU'RE WORKING ON THAT ONE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I HAD NOTHING ELSE.
SO, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? WE ADJOURN.
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