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>> GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO CALL THE AUGUST MEETING OF THE HARDEEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. RICH, WILL LEAD US.
>> HE, LORD, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US ALL HERE TODAY SAFELY, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BRINGING THESE HOMES TO OUR COUNTY AND HELP US TO PLAN WE SO THAT THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR OUR PEOPLE, LORD IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
>> THANK YOU, RICH. THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
DO ANY OF THE PLANNING MEMBERS HAVE ANY RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE AGENDA?
>> I MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS WRITTEN.
>> ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE CROWD? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND? IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES.
DOES ANYONE HERE HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY WANT TO MAKE IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY, NOT RELATED TO THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I MOVE ON.
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 8TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
ANY CHANGES FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
NEW BUSINESS, CONSIDERATION OF A JONY ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR A PORTION OF PARTIAL 067-00-1054, KNOWN AS THE PENINSULA TRACK C3 FROM PDD JASPER TO MIXED USE CITY HARDEEVILLE.
THIS IS THE FUTURE FIREHOUSE 82 LOCATION.
KATIE, IF YOU WANT TO LEAD US OFF?
>> THIS IS THE, AGAIN, YES, THE REZONING OF PENINSULA TRACT PARCEL C3, WHICH WAS SHOWN ON THE FLAT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
THE LOCATION IS OFF OF VILLAGE DRIVE.
IT IS 15.768 ACRES LOCATED ADJACENT TO ABERY CHASE AND BROOK MILL APARTMENTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE ENTRYWAY WILL BE ACROSS FROM ABERY CHASE.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FROM PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY TO MIXED USE IN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.
I BEAUTIFULLY CIRCLED THAT PARCEL THERE FOR YOU ON THE SCREEN HERE.
IT IS LOCATED AGAIN REASON THE LASER IS NOT WORKING.
>> THANK YOU. IT IS LOCATED OFF OF VILLAGE DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY RIGHT UP HERE.
>> BY THE WAY IS TREATMENT PUMPING STATION.
>> THIS IS ACROSS FROM THE SITE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WHERE ABERY CHASE ENTRYWAY IS.
THE EXISTING SITE IS UNDEVELOPED.
THE PARCEL DOES LIE WITHIN OUR ANNEXATION BOUNDARIES, AND IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE LAND USE ELEMENT,
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WHICH PRIORITIZES THE CITY TO ANNEX LAND, WHICH WILL HELP FILL IN THE DONUT HOLES, INCREASE COMPACTNESS, AND INCREASE CONTIGUITY.THIS IS BEING REVIEWED CONCURRENTLY WITH A PETITION FOR ANNEXATION BY CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE A PERMANENT LOCATION FOR FIRE STATION 82, WHICH HAS BEEN OPERATING OUT OF A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
THE FIRST STEP IS TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL REVIEW THIS WITH THE PETITION FOR ANNEXATION.
STAFF DOES RECOMMEND BASED ON THE MZDO AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED REZONING TO CITY COUNCIL AS PRESENTED.
I DO HAVE THAT ENGINEER AND THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, JP, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE?
>> MR. FORMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, WHICH IS OFF TOPIC.
IS THE NEW FIRE STATION GOING TO HAVE MORE BAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE LADDER TRUCK WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE APARTMENTS COMING THERE?
>> I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE JODIE MCMAHON.
SHE'S THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS FOR THE CITY, SO SHE CAN ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
>> YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SIMPLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AND I HAVE A SCHEMATIC RENDERING OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION, SO WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR SLIDE SHOW, BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE SNEAK PEEK.
WE'VE GOT THREE BAYS AND THERE'S GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY 12,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THIS TOTAL BUILDING.
>> ONE OF YOU TWO PROBABLY KNOWS.
WE KNOW THAT SOMEDAY WE'RE GOING TO GET A LADDER TRUCK IN THAT PART OF TOWN, MAYBE 82, MAYBE 83.
SPACE FOR THAT, AND THEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SPACE FOR SQUAD THERE?
>> CORRECT AND ACTUALLY, THE LADDER TRUCK WILL BE THERE NEXT WEEK.
>> HOW SOON DO YOU PLAN STOCK CONSTRUCTION JOY?
>> WE GOT TO GET THROUGH ALL THE ENGINEER AND MAKE SURE WE GET ALL THE SITE GOING AND THEN VERTICAL IS WHEN ALL THE SITES APPROVED.
>> WE CURRENTLY ARE IN THE SCHEMATIC PHASE OF DESIGN, WE HAVE ABOUT SIX MORE MONTHS OF DESIGN BEFORE WE COMPLETE OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.
AT THAT TIME, WE START OUR BID OUR PERMIT PROCESS.
THE PERMIT PROCESS COULD TAKE ANYWHERE 6-12 MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR COASTAL ZONING AND THEN.
>> I'D BE NICE TO GET THOSE GUYS INTO A PERMANENT LOCATION.
>> AGREED. YES, WE'RE TRYING VERY HARD.
BUT CONSTRUCTION COULD TAKE I MEAN, IF WE BID OUT AND GET THIS AS TRACT, WE'RE HOPING 16 MONTHS FROM NOW.
>> WE GOT TO GET STATE APPROVAL FOR THE LAND DISTURBANCE THAT YEAR.
>> WELL, YEAH, IT'S GETTING BETTER.
I KNOW, NOT MUCH BETTER, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN.
>> I THINK MY POINT WAS THIS NEED TO DOESN'T NEED TO SIT ON A BACK BURNER.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, GUYS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> I MAKE A MOTION WE APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR PORTION OF PAC 067-0 0-0 1-54, KNOWN AS THE PENINSULA ATTRACT C3 FROM THE PDD IN JASPER COUNTY TO MIXED USE IN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.
>> YEAH, IT GETS HARDER. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
CONSIDERATION OF AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR PARCEL 000 0023 AND 011, KNOWN AS OSPREY VILLAGE, LOCATED ON PARCEL FIVE EAST SARGENT. KATIE.
SLOWLY DRIVE. AGAIN, THIS IS AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN IN AN EXISTING EDD.
IT'S IN THE EAST ARGENT PDD, 63.1 ACRES.
THE EAST ARGENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2005 AND MOST RECENTLY AMENDED IN 2017.
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THE PROJECT LOCATION IS RIGHT HERE.IT'S ACROSS FROM THE RETREAT, THE DR HORTON DEVELOPMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
THIS IS EAST ARGENT PARKWAY, AND YOU HAVE 170 HERE.
PROJECT SITE IS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.
THIS IS THE RETREAT RIGHT HERE, THE ENTRYWAY, AND THIS IS THE ENTRYWAY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM IT FOR OSPREY VILLAGE.
THERE IS A COPY OF THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN IN YOUR PACKET.
THIS DOES SHOW THE LAYOUT OF THE VARIOUS BUILDINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED AND THE ACCESS.
THE JOB CENTER IS UPFRONT, AND THEN THERE'S A COMMUNITY CENTER WITH SOME AMENITIES, POTENTIAL FUTURE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY BACK HERE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENT DISABILITIES.
IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THEM, A JOB CENTER FOR EMPLOYMENT, RECREATION, AND SOCIAL INTERACTION OPPORTUNITIES ALL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE WILL BE 160 PROPOSED HOUSING UNITS.
THIS IS A MIX OF ONE UNIT VILLAS, TWO UNIT VILLAS, FOUR PLEXS, AND 16 UNIT CONDOMINIUMS, LONG WITH THE POTENTIAL OF A 60 UNIT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
AGAIN, THE EAST ARGENT PDD DOES INCLUDE A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, MEDICAL USES.
THE PROPOSED OPEN SPACE EXCEEDS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PDD.
THEY'RE PROPOSING A TOTAL OF 31% WITH AT LEAST 11% ACTIVE OPEN SPACE.
THE ACCESS WAS COORDINATED EARLY IN THE PROCESS WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WORKED WITH ALL THE CODES THAT APPLY TO THAT PROPERTY, AND WE AT THIS TIME, WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK THROUGH THAT AT STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE, BUT WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ACCESS AS IT IS PROPOSED.
THERE WILL BE CONNECTIVITY FOR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC ALONG EAST ARGENT PARKWAY AND THE BUFFER AT THE FRONT IS A 30 FOOT PEDESTRIAN LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THE REST OF THE PROPERTY IS PRETTY MUCH SURROUNDED BY WETLANDS.
THIS WILL BE A HIGHLY SECURED SITE WITH FENCING AND PRIVATE SECURITY. THIS IS STEP 1.
THEY ARE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
STEP TWO WILL BE CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN THEY WILL GO FOR SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO THE STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AT THIS TIME, I WILL INTRODUCE NATHAN LONG TO COME UP HERE AND ADD ANY DETAILS HE'D LIKE TO ADD.
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS NATHAN LONG WITH THOMAS AND HUTTON.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MOST OF THEM WE'RE INTRODUCING.
IT HAS A PURPOSE, AND IT FILLS A NEED.
I THINK KATIE DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING THE COMMUNITY.
JUST WANTED TO MENTION, IT DOES HAVE A JOB TRAINING CENTER HERE.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A VERY NICE FEATURE.
IT HAS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE, WALKABILITY, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT AT THIS SCALE, BUT THESE ARE ALL TRAILS.
THERE'S A CENTRALIZED KIND OF PARK AREA HERE.
THERE'S ALSO A AREA UP HERE THAT THEY PLAN TO UTILIZE AS MORE OF A PARK SPACE.
IT'S GOT A MAINTENANCE FACILITY, THE FUTURE ASSISTED LIVING.
THE SITE'S ABOUT 63 ACRES TOTAL.
IT'S PROBABLY 25 ACRES OF UPLAND.
YOU CAN SEE, HALF THE PROPERTY IS WETLANDS HERE IN THE.
SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT IT IS 160 UNITS.
THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT PRODUCT TYPES HERE.
DIFFERENT VILLAS. THERE'S ALSO SOME CONDO TYPE UNITS HERE.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE BILL LENSCO.
I'VE KNOWN BILL FOR ABOUT 3.5 YEARS NOW.
BILL IS THE ONE WITH THE VISION FOR ALL THIS AND HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO GET IT TO THIS POINT THAT WE ARE TODAY.
>> GOOD MORNING TO ALL. FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEIR PAST SUPPORT.
THIS HAS BEEN A GROUP OF VERY DEDICATED FAMILIES THAT HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR 16 YEARS TO GET TO THIS POINT IN THIS PROCESS.
I CAN'T OVERSTATE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS PROJECT.
THIS WILL BE ONE OF A KIND IN THE NATION.
THERE ARE GRASSROOTS EFFORTS TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM OF HOUSING FOR THE DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED.
PRESENTLY, THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA HAS 9,000 PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST, AND THE STATE IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THESE RESIDENTIAL SERVICES.
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AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE MEETING WITH ROBBIE KERR THIS AFTERNOON, THE HEAD OF DHHS FOR SOUTH CAROLINA TO PRESENT THIS AS A MODEL TO DO OVER THE ENTIRE STATE.WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLICATE THIS IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.
I THINK THE SIGNIFICANCE IS THAT MANY FAMILIES ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE THE PARENTS ARE 70, 80, EVEN 90-YEARS-OLD.
THEY HAVE ADULT CHILDREN, MANY OF WHICH ARE HIGHLY FUNCTIONING AND THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE JOB TRAINING.
THIS IS REALLY A PATHWAY TO INDEPENDENCE, AND IT'S AN AGE IN PLACE SOLUTION.
WHEN THE PARENTS PASS, THEY KNOW THAT THEIR CHILDREN WILL BE HERE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
AS NATHAN AND KATIE MENTIONED, THE KEY TO THIS IS WE WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICES ON SITE, AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING ACTIVITIES AND JOB TRAINING.
THIS IS REALLY MODELED AFTER A PROJECT THAT WE BECAME FAMILIAR WITH IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA CALLED ARC JACKSONVILLE.
WHAT'S ASTONISHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THESE CHILDREN COME TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS, AND IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY CAN SOCIALIZE, BE TOGETHER.
I'VE PRESENTED MANY TIMES TO OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS, AND THEY GET SO EXCITED ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF INDEPENDENT LIVING FROM THEIR PARENTS.
THIS IS UNIQUE, PEOPLE WILL COME FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES STATES TO SEE THIS.
HAVE INTEREST FROM ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, BUT THIS IS PRINCIPALLY BEING BUILT FOR SOUTH CAROLINIANS.
WE'VE HAD SUPPORT FROM TOM DAVIS, BILL HERBERT HENCHMAN, FINANCIALLY AND POLITICALLY, AS WELL AS THE MAYOR HAS BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER.
WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU THE CLUBHOUSE AND SOME OF THE PRODUCT.
BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF QUALITY.
>> I'M GOING TO SET THIS RIGHT. THIS IS OKAY THEN.
>> PARDON ME, 10,400 SQUARE FEET.
OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES ARE HERE.
WE HAVE MOVIE THEATER, WHICH IS BEING NAMED AFTER MY GRANDDAUGHTER.
UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
WE'VE GOT AN EVENT CENTER HERE, A DINING HALL, ARTS AND CRAFTS.
A GAME ROOM HERE, FITNESS AND JOB TRAINING INITIALLY HERE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BUILD A SEPARATE JOB TRAINING CENTER IN THE FUTURE AS WE EXPAND OVER TIME.
THE INITIAL PHASE IS 100 UNITS, 60 UNITS IN THE SECOND PHASE.
IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL BUILDING DONE IN THE LOW COUNTRY STYLE, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSING PRODUCT AS WELL.
AS NATHAN MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, WHICH IS HERE.
THIS IS THE DUPLEX WITH UNIT FRONT AND BACK.
THIS THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME. TWO BEDROOM.
WE HAVE A SECOND PRODUCT TYPE IN THE DUPLEX, WHICH IS A SIDE BY SIDE.
THEN THIS IS THE P. YOU CAN TELL THE CHARACTER IS VERY MUCH IN THE LOW COUNTRY STYLE, AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT HOW THIS WILL PRESENT AS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE FINAL THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS AGAIN, THANK ALL OF YOU, BUT PARTICULARLY JEFF HOGAN AND THIS DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY WITHOUT THEM.
THEY DONATED THE PROPERTY, WHICH WITH THAT INCREDIBLE ACT, REALLY PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO GET BUILT.
I CANNOT THANK JEFF AND HIS GROUP ENOUGH FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WILL BE AN EXAMPLE THAT MANY, MANY PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WILL COME TO SEE.
WITH THAT, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> JEFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START?
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
ARE ALL 160 UNITS SPECIFICALLY FOR DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED PEOPLE?
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COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE MORE ABOUT WHAT THE JOB TRAINING PROGRAM WOULD BE LIKE?>> THE CONCEPT OF THIS, THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THIS.
EVERYONE WILL HAVE SOME DISABILITY, AND THEY WILL GO.
THE FAMILIES WILL HAVE TO PUT THEIR CHILD THROUGH AN ASSESSMENT PROCESS.
WE WON'T ACCEPT ANYBODY WITH CRIMINAL BACKGROUND OR DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, ANYTHING LIKE THEY HAVE TO QUALIFY, FIRST OF ALL.
BUT THE JOB TRAINING IS INTENDED TO BE A COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
MANY OF OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS ARE ALREADY EMPLOYED.
BUT THE IDEA, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH SOS CARE OUTSIDE OF CHARLESTON, SARAH POPE IS THE DIRECTOR OF THAT.
OF HER FIRST 24 RESIDENTS, SHE FINISHED A COMMUNITY ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, NONE OF THEM HAD EVER BEEN EMPLOYED.
NONE OF THEM HAD HAD EVER DRIVEN.
NOW ABOUT 60 PERCENT OF THOSE ARE EMPLOYED, AND ABOUT 30 PERCENT OF THEM DRIVE.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVOLUTION OF BEING OUT OF THE PARENTS INFLUENCE, THEY REALIZE THAT THEY'RE CAPABLE OF MORE THINGS.
OUR INTENTION IS TO DO AN OUTREACH TO FOOD AND BEVERAGE, THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, AND EVEN THE BANKS EMPLOY SOME OF OUR PEOPLE.
IS TO HAVE A TRAINING FACILITY ON SITE WHERE THOSE GROUPS AND COMPANIES CAN COME IN, TRAIN OUR PEOPLE AND HOPEFULLY GET EMPLOYMENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THE OTHER THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE JOB TRAINING CENTER, WE'RE INTENDING TO HAVE A COFFEE SHOP AND BAKERY.
ESSENTIALLY, WE'LL HAVE JOBS IN PLACE ON SITE AND THAT WILL BE RIGHT ALONG THE GREENWAY.
IT'S A COMMUNITY TOUCH POINT AND THAT'S THE SECOND THING THAT WILL BE OCCURRING.
WE'LL BE EMPLOYING PEOPLE AS WELL.
>> OPERATING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH TRANSPORTATION ISSUES? A LACK OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT IN A GROUP IN A FACILITY LIKE THIS?
>> WITHIN THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE OF OUR FINANCIAL MODEL, THERE IS AN ACTIVITIES FEE IN THAT ACTIVITIES FEE, WE WILL BE PROVIDING TRANSPORTATION TO WORK BACK FROM WORK, OR IF THEY HAVE TO GO OFF SITE FOR SERVICES, MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, DENTAL APPOINTMENTS, THAT'LL ALL BE PROVIDED BY OSPREY VILLAGE.
>> IN THIS SCREENING PROCESS, I THINK YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T ALLOW DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR.
THAT EXCLUDES AUTISTIC PEOPLE.
>> BECAUSE THEY CAN BE VERY DISRUPTIVE.
>> MOST OF OUR POPULATION WILL BE AUTISTIC.
THESE WILL BE HIGHLY TO MEDIUM FUNCTIONING.
MEDICALLY FRAGILE, WE CANNOT ACCEPT.
>> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU WEREN'T DISCRIMINATIVE.
>> NO. BUT THERE IS A HISTORY IN AUTISM OF VIOLENT BEHAVIOR.
JUST FAMILIES CAN'T ACCEPT THAT, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO BE HANDLED BY THE STATE IN SOME OTHER FORM.
>> IS IT GOING TO BE AGE RESTRICTED, SAY, THEY HAVE TO BE ADULTS?
>> OKAY. IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY FULLY SECURED.
THE NUMBER 1 ISSUE WITH THE FAMILIES IS SAFETY AND SECURITY BECAUSE THEY CAN AT TIMES WANDER OFF AND GET DISORIENTED, SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT APPROPRIATE SECURITY AND SAFETY.
>> I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT BEING EXPLOITED BY THE NAIR DO WELLS ON THE OUTSIDE.
>> WELL, ON THE PERIMETER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CAMERA SYSTEM AND EVERY UNIT WILL HAVE AN ALARM SYSTEM, EVERY HOME WILL BE SPRINKLED, AND EVERY HOME WILL HAVE TWO WAY VIDEO CONNECTION, IF ANYTHING IS DISRUPTED.
>> I REALLY LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALKS.
>> I LIKE THAT. WILL THERE BE STREET LIGHTS?
>> YES, SIR. WE WANT TO MAKE THIS FEEL LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
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NO INSTITUTIONAL FEELING.>> CAN I ASK THAT WHEN YOU CONSIDER STREET LIGHTS THAT YOU CONSIDER SOLAR?
>> SAVE YOU A BUCK [LAUGHTER] AND HELPS THE ENVIRONMENT.
>> SEEMS LIKE A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE.
>> I'M TELLING YOU THIS IS GOING TO PUT HARDEEVILLE ON THE MAP WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE INTEREST FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING FROM CALIFORNIA TO BRING THEIR SON OR DAUGHTER HERE.
YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT WHEN THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
I WOULD SAY AN AVERAGE WEBSITE UP, WE'RE LAUNCHING OUR NEW WEBSITE ON FRIDAY.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
>> YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COFFEE SHOP AND BAKERY.
THAT'S JUST FOR THE RESIDENTS?
>> NO. WE WANT TO MAKE THAT A TOUCH POINT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S PATTERNED AFTER MY GRANDDAUGHTER WAS AT A FACILITY IN CHARLOTTE NORTH CAROLINA CALLED HOPEFULLY ANGELS, AND THEY HAD A CANDY BOUQUET STORE AND A DELI.
THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY SUPPORTED THAT ORGANIZATION THROUGH THOSE TWO LITTLE SHOPS.
PEOPLE WOULD EAT THERE AND WE HAVE THE SAME CONCEPT.
WE WANT PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO COME IN, HAVE COFFEE.
>> IF I WANTED TO COME IN, I COULD?
AGAIN, IT'S RIGHT ON YOUR PROPOSED GREENWAY.
>> WE WANT PEOPLE TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
>> THANK YOU. I SAW A BAKERY LIKE THAT IN NORWAY LAST YEAR. EXACTLY THAT.
>> FIRST OF ALL, I COMMEND YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
I THINK ALL OF US EITHER HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS IN THE SITUATION YOU'VE DESCRIBED.
WHEN DO YOU EXPECT A COMPLETE PHASE 1?
>> WE HOPE TO BREAK GROUND SOMETIME PROBABLY LATE SPRING.
THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT.
THE INITIAL BECAUSE THE CLUBHOUSE IS THE CENTRAL FOCUS AND THE CENTER OF OPERATIONS, THAT HAS TO BE COMPLETED FIRST.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY A YEAR TO BUILD.
I FAILED TO MENTION IN OUR LOTTO PROGRAM BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP WHERE THE EMPHASIS ARE ON SOUTH CAROLINA RESIDENTS.
BUT IF WE DON'T SELL OUT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW OUT OF STATE PEOPLE TO COME IN.
THOSE UNITS WILL APPROXIMATELY BE COMING ON AT THE SAME TIME A YEAR FROM SOMETIME, MAYBE MAY OF NEXT YEAR.
>> THAT'S THE FIRST HUNDRED UNITS.
>> WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PHASED, AND IT WILL TAKE ANOTHER YEAR TO BUILD THE TOTAL 100.
BASICALLY FROM NOW, IT'S PROBABLY A 2.5, 2.75 YEAR PROCESS BEFORE PHASE 1 IS COMPLETED.
NOW, OUR INTENTION IS TO CONTINUE.
WE'RE ANTICIPATING AFTER THIS LAUNCH THAT WE'RE DOING ON FRIDAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST KEEP ROLLING AND CONTINUE WITH PHASE 2.
>> NOW, YOU DISCUSSED THE FACT THAT MANY AGING PEOPLE WITH CHILDREN THAT ARE NOW ADULTS THEMSELVES NEED YOUR SERVICES, WOULD A PARENT BE ABLE TO MOVE IN WITH THEIR KID?
>> OUR INTENTION, WE CALL IT A JOURNEY TO INDEPENDENCE.
THEY HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO LIVE ON THEIR OWN.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE PARENTS WANT.
THEIR GREATEST FEAR IS THAT MANY OF THE ADULT CHILDREN ARE SO DEPENDENT UPON THEIR PARENTS.
IT'S REALLY HEALTHY FOR THEM TO LEARN HOW TO LIVE ON THEIR OWN, SOCIALIZE, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO NEW FRIENDS AND REALLY CREATE A NEW WAY OF LIFE FOR THEM.
BECAUSE THE PARENTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE THERE AT SOME POINT.
>> NOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT IN ANOTHER FACILITY, ABOUT 30 PERCENT OF YOUR RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO GET DRIVING LICENSES.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING PARKING.
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>> THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ASKING FOR IS BASICALLY, YOU'RE SEEING THE PARKING OCCUR ALONG THIS AVENUE.
BUT THE NEED FOR PARKING, WE'VE GOT A MAJOR PARKING FACILITY.
>> I SEE CARS, THERE'S DOUBLE SIDED ON STREET PARKING. PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE.
>> THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING DOWN BY THE MAIL KIOSKS AND INFRONT OF THE JOB CENTER.
>> WE'RE OVERPARKED FOR OUR SITUATION.
>> YOU MIGHT HAVE 30 PEOPLE HERE IN THE FIRST PHASE THAT WOULD HAVE CARS, AND WE'VE GOT SUBSTANTIALLY MORE.
>> WHEN I LOOKED AT THE FLOODPLAIN DRAWING, I WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHETHER YOU WERE GOING TO NEED TO BUILD INTO ANY OF THE STUFF THAT WAS CONSIDERED IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
>> WE DO HAVE A WONDERFUL BUFFER BY VIRTUE OF THE WETLANDS.
THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD POINT IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY.
>> WHEN I LOOKED AT YOUR LAGOON, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A NATHAN QUESTION, I SAW ONLY ONE DISCHARGE INTO THE WETLANDS.
THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZED LAGOON.
>> MOST OF OUR SYSTEM YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH LOOKING FOR THE LOWEST POINT ADJACENT WETLAND FOR YOUR DISCHARGE BECAUSE THE FIELD THERE IS SO EXPENSIVE IN THIS AREA.
>> CAN YOU PUT ON YOUR MICROPHONE. [LAUGHTER]
>> BUT YES, WE ONLY HAVE ONE DISCHARGE POINT.
I DID GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE LIKE RIVERTON POINT.
THAT'S A BIG COMMUNITY, 1,000 LOTS.
WE'VE GOT THREE DISCHARGE POINTS INTO THE WETLAND FOR THAT ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
>> WHICH SIDE OF THE LAGOON IS THE FENCE ON?
>> OKAY. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE.
>> WE HAVE TO DO THAT FOR SAFETY REASONS.
YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE FALL IN AND WALK IN, AND THAT'S JUST WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE.
>> THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE OWN OR OWNED OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE RENTALS TOO?
>> IN PHASE 1, IT'S ALL OWNER.
PHASE 2, WE POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE AN AFFORDABLE COMPONENT, MEANING FOR PEOPLE CAN THEY CAN'T AFFORD A DOWN PAYMENT, OR WE ARE GOING TO HAVE DEFINITELY SMALLER FOR SALE PRODUCT IN THE SECOND PHASE TO IMPROVE.
>> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MIX OF SALE AND RENTAL?
>> POTENTIALLY. THAT SECOND PHASE IS STILL IN QUESTION, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE THAT.
>> I THINK YOU SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER RENTALS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT, LIKE YOU SAY, CAN'T AFFORD THE DOWN PAYMENT.
>> WE WANT THIS FOR ALL FAMILIES.
>> ON THE CHALLENGES, THEY ONLY 160 SPACES.
IF THEY HAD 1,000 SPACES, IT'D BE EASIER TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT THEY'RE ALREADY OVER SUBSCRIBED.
>> YOU'VE GOT 180 APPLICANTS NOW, LET'S SAY.
SOME OF THOSE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO PURCHASE A HOME FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I THINK HAVING A MIXTURE OF OWNER OWNED AND RENTALS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
>> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [LAUGHTER]
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU FOR COMING.
>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PRODUCT TO US.
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>> [NOISE] [BACKGROUND] NEXT ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS, CONSIDERATION OF THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR SOUTHPOINT INFRASTRUCTURE LOCATED BETWEEN HIGHWAY 278, I95 ON JOHN SMITH ROAD, REFERRED TO AS THE SOUTHPOINT PDD. KATIE?
>> THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO DO [NOISE] A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE PROJECT, AND THEN I'M GOING TO INVITE DYLAN FROM KIMLEY-HORN TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WHAT HE HAS BEEN HELPING THE CITY WITH BOARD 278, AND THEN WE'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT UP, JUST SO YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE WE GET TO QUESTIONS.
THIS IS FOR AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR THE SOUTHPOINT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, SOUTHPOINT PDD WAS APPROVED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, [NOISE] AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE INITIAL MASTER PLANS COMING IN UNDER THAT.
THIS IS JUST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROADWAY, SO UTILITY AND ROADWAY.
THE PDD WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2022, AND THERE ARE NO EXISTING APPROVED INITIAL MASTER PLANS FOR THIS PDD.
THIS IS NEEDED SO THAT THERE IS ACCESS APPROVED TO SOME OF THE OTHER PARCELS WITHIN THE PDD.
THIS IS LOCATED BETWEEN I95, 278 AND JOHN SMITH ROAD HERE.
IT IS UNDEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE INITIAL MASTER PLAN SHOWING THE ROADWAYS TO CONNECT TO TO 278, THE FUTURE FRONTAGE ROAD THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE CREATED TO CONNECT TO MORGAN TRACK WHEN IT COMES IN AND THEN DOWN HERE CONNECTING TO PINE ARBOR.
ON THE LEFT SIDE HERE, WE HAVE THE APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY PLANNING COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL, AND CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY APPROVED IT.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ROAD NETWORK IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRES CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN PARCELS AS APPROPRIATE.
THIS PLAN DOES PROVIDE THAT VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY FROM US278 TO JOHN SMITH ROAD, PROVIDES UTILITY CONNECTIONS FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, AND THE SPINE ROAD WILL CREATE THE FIRST PORTION OF WHAT THE CITY HOPES TO SEE IS THE FRONTAGE ROAD, AGAIN, THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT ALSO RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY REVIEW PDDS AND DOCUMENT TRANSPORTATION RESPONSIBILITIES AND PROJECTS, AS WELL AS INCREASED COLLABORATION BETWEEN CITY STAFF, SCDOT, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS ON TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
APPLICANT HAS WORKED IN COORDINATION WITH THE CITY, SCDOT, AND ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS TO ADDRESS MITIGATION FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE TRAFFIC CONCERNS FOR BOTH US278 AND JOHN SMITH ROAD.
THE TIA AND SUBSEQUENT SUPPLEMENTAL TRAFFIC MEMO THAT WERE PROVIDED IN THE APPLICATION HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF, A THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT, AND SCDOT.
COORDINATION WITH SCDOT AND CITY STAFF FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO EXIT 8 HAVE ALSO BEEN CONSIDERED WITHIN THIS PLAN.
WE HAVE WORKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKS WITH THE I95 WIDENING PLANS.
THERE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
AGAIN, THIS WILL HAVE TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL, AND THEN TO SRC FOR A SITE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT.
AGAIN, AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO INVITE DYLAN FROM KIMLEY-HORN.
>> HEY, DYLAN TURNER. I'M WITH KIMLEY-HORN.
RIGHT NOW, I'M WORKING WITH THE CITY ON A 278 CORRIDOR STUDY THAT GOES FROM 17 TO ARGENT BOULEVARD, AND SOUTHPOINT IS ONE OF THE PARCELS THAT WE LOOKED GREAT DETAIL ON.
SOUTHPOINT IS UNDERTAKING A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
AFTER SOME BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT DEVELOPMENTS THEY NEED TO CONSIDER GROWTH RATES IN THE AREA, ETC, WE GOT TO A GREAT POINT WITH SOUTHPOINT.
THEIR SITE'S GOT A LOT GOING ON WITH IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY'RE ADDRESSING A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THROUGH MITIGATION.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH MORGAN TRACT AND WEST ARGENT, THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SCDOT, ON ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS, AND, THEY EVEN WENT OVERBOARD FOR REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, WAS THE TIA TO SCDOT, DID NOT NEED TO CONSIDER MORGAN TRACTOR WEST ARGENT, BECAUSE THEY AREN'T OFFICIALLY APPROVED YET.
BUT THEY'VE SENT IN A SUPPLEMENTAL MEMO THAT CONSIDERS THE IMPROVEMENTS AND LOOKS AT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, [NOISE] WE FEEL THAT FOR
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THE CORRIDOR STUDY THAT THEY'VE GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND AND WHAT THEY'VE GOT, IN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS TRAFFIC LIGHT, JOHN SMITH AND 278.DUAL LEFT THERE ADDITIONAL TURN LANE TO THE IMPROVEMENTS SCDOT IS DOING AT MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE, THAT THAT IN COMBINATION WITH, AND THIS IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY DEVELOPER, BUT THE EVENTUAL 278 WIDENING THROUGH THIS AREA, THAT THE TRAFFIC FLOW, WE GET ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF SERVICE.
ARE YOU RELOCATING 278 SOUTH FROM ITS CURRENT LOCATION?
>> NO. IT WOULD BE WIDENING MORE TOWARDS THE MEDIAN, IS OUR PLAN.
WHEN WE WIDE TO 278, NOW, THERE IS SOME STUFF THAT COULD WIDEN ON BOTH SIDES.
THERE'S A PRETTY BIG RIGHT OF WAY ALONG 278, AND SO WHENEVER THEY GET INTO THE SPECIFIC DESIGNS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH THOSE, I DON'T THINK THE DESIGN HAS BEEN SORTED QUITE YET, BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON THE FINAL APPROVALS FROM DOT FOR PERMITTING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO WIDEN THAT WAY, SO YOU COULD WIDEN THE MEDIAN AND TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE OF 278 AS IT EXISTS TODAY.
ONE THING I DID WANT TO STATE, SO THIS IS THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN.
IF THEY GO IN BEFORE THE MEDICAL CENTER DRIVES RELOCATED, THEY'VE GOT TO DO SOME TRAFFIC PHASING PLANS, BUT THEY'RE NOT AT THAT STAGE QUITE YET TO KNOW.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD OCCUR ON THE ROAD WITH THIS SITE.
>> WILL ACCESS TO THE EXISTING CIRCLE K AND THE STUFF THERE, BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT OR IS THAT CONNECTION BEING ELIMINATED?
>> RIGHT NOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE A RELOCATED ACCESS WHEN MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE GETS MOVED OVER.
THAT WOULD BE FOR THE MASTER PLAN.
>> IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE MICKEY D'S AT THE CIRCLE K, YOU'LL NEED TO COME DOWN TO THE NEW LIGHT AND THEN TAKE THE BACKAGE ROAD.
>> BACKAGE ROAD. INSTEAD OF A FRONTAGE ROAD, IT'S THE BACKAGE ROADS. THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
>> THAT'S PART OF THE SCDOT, EXIT 8 PROJECT.
I THINK THAT'S IT FROM OUR BRIEFING AND SO I'LL PASS IT OVER TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM NOW.
>> I'M I RIGHT TO SAY THAT WHERE IT COMES IN IT'S GOING TO GO BEHIND THE EXISTING BAR PIT.
THAT WOULD BE THE BLUE AREA THERE, THE BAR PIT RIGHT OFF OF 95.
>> RIGHT BEYOND THE EXISTING ONE?
>> CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT? WHEN IT COMES OUT TO JOHN SMITH, YOUR FUTURE PLANS ARE TO MATCH UP WITH THE NEXT PHASE, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BRING DOWN?
>> LET ME ANSWER THAT PART OF IT.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST A SUPPLEMENTAL TRAFFIC THING.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING STUFF FOR THAT STUFF.
BUT I'LL LET THEM ANSWER THAT QUESTION. HI, WILLIE.
>> [NOISE] GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS WILLIE POWELL WITH WEARS ENGINEERING, AND WE ARE THE AGENT APPLICANTS FOR THIS, AND ALONG WITH US, WE HAVE THE CLIENT AND DEVELOPER BRIAN AND KEVIN.
WE HAVE CAITLIN, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT, AND ALSO BRETT FROM MY TEAM AS WELL. I THINK THIS WORKS ON?
>> THIS IMP IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY, SO IT'S JUST FOR WATER AND SEWER AND ROADWAYS TO HELP SUPPORT THE OVERALL PROJECT.
AS EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK COMES ON BOARD, THEY'LL THEN COME BACK BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR INDIVIDUAL IMPS TO LOOK AT OPEN SPACE AND ENTITY LAND USE.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A CONNECTION ACROSS FROM PINE ARBOR THAT COMES UP AND COMES IN.
THERE'S ALSO THIS STARTING HERE AT JOHN SMITH ROAD, IS THAT INTENDED FRONTAGE ROAD THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO COORDINATE, AND SO IT STARTS AT MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE, AND WILL LOOP THROUGH, AND THEN WILL TIE IN HERE, AND THEN MORGAN TRACK WILL PICK IT UP AND CARRY IT DOWN, AND EVENTUALLY TAKE IT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO LATITUDE AND TIE IN THERE.
FOR US, WE'RE PROPOSING THIS AS A FOUR-LANE BOULEVARD STYLE ROADWAY RIGHT NOW, AND THEN IT'LL HAVE ITS OWN INDIVIDUAL TURN LANES [NOISE] AND NEEDED MANAGEMENT AS YOU GET INTO THE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS, AND WE'LL FINALIZE THOSE AS THOSE FUTURE PARCELS GET DETERMINED AND FIGURED OUT.
REALLY, OUR MAIN FOCUS TODAY IS THE SPINE ROAD COMING FROM
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JOHN SMITH UP AND TYING INTO THE WORK THAT THE DOT IS DOING BY MCDONALD'S.WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE PINE ARBOR EXTENSION COMING IN, AND THEN THIS, WE CALL IT ROAD B, WHICH IS CONNECTING THOSE TWO ROADWAYS TOGETHER.
YOU CAN SEE THE ARROWS THAT ARE ON HERE AND ALSO ON THIS SIDE SHOW WHERE WE'RE ANTICIPATING CONNECTIVITY OFF OF THESE ROADS INTO THE FUTURE OUT PARCELS, AND SO IN FUTURE, WE'LL HAVE CONNECTIVITY ALL THROUGHOUT THIS SPINE ROAD COMING INTO EACH OF INDIVIDUAL OUT PARCELS.
THEN JUST FOR IC BACKGROUND, WATER IS CURRENTLY ON 278.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO EXTEND IT DOWN JOHN SMITH ROAD, AND THEN BRING IT IN ALONG THE SAME CORRIDOR.
ALL UTILITIES WILL BE INSIDE THE RIGHTS OF WAY OF EITHER JOHN SMITH OR OUR NEW INTERNAL ROAD RIGHTAWAYS.
WATER WILL COME IN AND HAVE STUB OUT IN PREPARATION FOR THE FUTURE OUT PARCELS.
THEN FOR SEWER, THE CITY IS CURRENTLY WORKING WITH BEAVER JASPER ON THE EXIT 8 IMPROVEMENTS, AND SO THERE'S A FORCE MAIN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED COMING OUT OF A PUMP STATION BY THE HOSPITAL COMING DOWN 278.
WE'LL CONNECT TO THAT FORCE MAIN, BRING IT DOWN JOHN SMITH ROAD, THEN HAVE OUR OWN PUMPS INTERNAL TO THE SITE TO HANDLE FUTURE SEWAGE.
ALL THAT HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE CITY AND WITH BEAVER JASPER TO ENSURE THAT THOSE SYSTEMS ARE DESIGNED SUCH THAT THEY CAN HANDLE THE FUTURE ANTICIPATED FLOWS OF THE SITE.
ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, PLEASE FIRE AWAY.
I FEEL THE LESS I SPEAK THE BETTER SOMETIME.
>> RICH, WHY DON'T YOU START THIS TIME?
>> I THINK THAT COVERED. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE LOCATION, EXACTLY WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND THE EXISTING ROAD THAT HARDEEVILLE WANTS TO PUT INTO FRONTAGE. I NOW UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> I THINK BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE BORROW.
THAT'S THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, AND SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO ALMOST UTILIZE THE BAR AS A FUTURE SITE.
IT'S REALLY NICE, AND SO THE ROAD WILL CURVE AROUND IT, GIVE OURSELVES SOME ACCESS AND USE IT AS WELL.
>> BEEN THERE A LONG TIME. JEFF.
>> OBVIOUSLY, THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SPINE ROADS AND THE INTERNAL.
WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXIT, THE ROADWAYS AND THE UTILITIES AND SO ON, WHAT PORTION OF THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY BY WHICH, I MEAN, YOU'RE PAYING FOR OR DOING?
>> FROM A UTILITY STANDPOINT, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE UTILITIES THAT ARE COMING OFF OF 278, COMING DOWN JOHN SMITH ROAD.
WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEW PUMP STATIONS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED HERE, THE FORCE MAIN GOING BACK OUT.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO PARTY TO THE CITY'S EXIT 8 SEWER PROJECT AS WELL AS A CONTRIBUTOR AND A STAKEHOLDER IN THAT TOO.
FROM A ROADWAY STANDPOINT, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE INTERNAL ROADWAYS WITH INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH DYLAN HAS HELPED TO CAPTURE AND WE'RE A STAKEHOLDER.
>> WILL THE SPINE ROADS REMAIN PRIVATE PDD, OR DO YOU INTEND TO TRANSFER RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY AT SOME POINT?
>> I MAY LEAVE THAT FOR BRIAN MCGAVIN.
I THINK THE INTENT IS FOR THAT TO BE DISCUSSED AND TO SEE WHAT THE LONG-TERM USE OF THAT ROAD WILL BE.
>> BECAUSE IF WE'RE CONSIDERING IT AS A CONNECTION TO THE MORGAN TRACT AND ALL THAT, THEN IT BECOMES MORE OF A PUBLIC ROAD THAN A PDD ROAD, HENCE WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION.
>> EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU. MR. CYCLE, COMMISSION, GOOD TO SEE YOU TODAY.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, THAT'S WHY WE ENGAGED WITH KIMLEY-HORN AND MR. TURNER ON TRYING TO FIND OUT A PLAN FOR NOT JUST 278, BUT THAT WHOLE AREA, AND THE CITY IS DISCUSSING IT WITH THE APPLICANTS AT LENGTH.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF THESE DEVELOPERS ABOUT WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS WHAT, AND THAT IS BEING WORKED OUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DAS AND EVERYTHING.
HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. IT DOES.
>> I'M NOT SURE WHO I SHOULD ASK THIS QUESTION TO, BUT I WANTED SOMEONE TO COMMENT ON THE SCHEDULING OF THESE PROJECTS IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
>> ONE THING THAT'S FIXED, WHICH WE'RE WORKING WITH IS THE DOTI95 [INAUDIBLE] PROJECT.
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BASED ON ALL OUR UNDERSTANDING, IT'S SET TO GO TO BID SOMETIME LATE 24, EARLY 2025 [NOISE] WITH ABOUT A THREE-YEAR TOTAL PROJECT DURATION.GOAL IS FOR IT TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2028.
WE ALL KNOW HOW THOSE THINGS GO.
THAT WILL HELP TO DRIVE SOME OF THAT.
BUT OUR INTENT FROM OUR STANDPOINT IS TO BEGIN TO GET THESE UTILITIES DOWN JOHN SMITH ROAD AND INTO AT LEAST THE EASTERN PART OF SOUTHPOINT FAIRLY QUICKLY.
THOSE PLANS AND PERMITS ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY OUT FOR REVIEW BY BEAVER JASPER, AND WITH THE STATE FOR THE LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT, SO THE INTENT IS FOR THE UTILITIES COMING DOWN JOHN SMITH TO BE INSTALLED FAIRLY QUICKLY AS A PHASE 1.
THEN THE SPINE ROAD, WE'RE BOUND BY SOME WEAPON [INAUDIBLE].
WE'RE ABLE TO BUILD THIS PORTION OF PINE ARBOR UP TO ABOUT HERE, WITHOUT NEEDING ANY ADDITIONAL WETLAND PERMITTING.
THIS WAS ACTUALLY A PERMIT OBTAINED A YEAR OR TWO AGO FOR THIS ROAD CROSSING, AND THEN THIS ROAD CAN GO UP TO ABOUT RIGHT THERE.
WE CAN'T CROSS THAT WETLAND UNTIL THE WETLAND PERMITTING IS COMPLETED.
I THINK YOUR PHASE 1 IS COMING IN OFF OF PINE ARBOR, AND THEN COMING IN OFF OF THIS FRONTAGE ROAD UP TO ABOUT HERE, AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT WETLAND PERMIT TO BE 12-18 MONTHS.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE PHASE 1 PLANS TO THE CITY FOR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT THIS YEAR, AND THEN HOPE TO GET CONSTRUCTION LATE '24 OR LATE '25, UNLESS THE PORTION COMING DOWN JOHN SMITH ROAD AND COMING IN.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR SCHEDULE IS SUCH THAT IT WOULDN'T SLOW ANYTHING ELSE DOWN.
>> EXACTLY. IT'S ACTUALLY, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY A GOOD BIT TO GET TO THIS POINT, HAVE THESE AGREEMENTS AND UNDERSTANDINGS IN PLACE.
WE JUST NEED TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE OTHER DETAILS AND GET THE OFF SITE PART OF IT FIGURED OUT.
>> THEN THERE'S LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT INDICATES THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR YOU.
WHAT IS IT THAT'S IN THIS PROJECT THAT'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL ADVANTAGE THAT IS NOT REQUIRED?
>> WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE WETLAND CONSULTANTS TO REALLY TRY TO ALIGN THIS ROAD, SUCH THAT IT MINIMIZES ANY WETLAND CROSSING NEEDS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT ONE OF THE CHANGES IN THIS IS THE ALIGNMENT BASED ON THE PDD, AND THIS IS THE ALIGNMENT AS WE'RE PROPOSING NOW.
ONE THING YOU'LL NOTICE IS THE WETLANDS THEMSELVES ARE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT HERE, THIS DARKER OUTLINE, IS THE WETLAND BOUNDARY NOW VERSUS WHAT IT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN IT FIRST CAME THROUGH.
WE'VE HAD TO SHIFT THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT TO TRY TO MINIMIZE SOME OF THOSE WETLAND IMPACTS.
WE ALSO CAN SEE THE ROAD SWINGS AROUND TO SLIDE IN BETWEEN THE BAR PIT, WHICH WILL LEAVE IT INTACT IN FULL AND ALSO THIS WETLAND THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
WE'VE REALLY WORKED ON THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS TO WETLANDS AND ALSO UTILIZE SOME OF THE EXISTING SITE FEATURES.
>> GOOD MORNING. EVAN FERGIO, ROI.
I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO MAYBE HAND THESE OUT.
WE'RE GETTING INTO OPEN SPACE.
THIS IS MORE OF A DETAILED PLAN, BEHIND THE SCENES OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN SOME OF THOSE YELLOW AND RED AREAS.
I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP, SO AS.
>> I WANT TO NOTE THAT ANYTHING THAT'S SHOWN SPECIFIC ON THERE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH TO YOU, SO IT'S NOT APPROVED.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION RIGHT NOW.
>> I GUESS THIS IS MORE A GENERAL QUESTION, BUT WHAT'S THE REASON THAT THE WETLAND CHANGED?
ONE IS THE DELINEATION YOU'RE SEEING WAS A CARRYOVER FROM THE LATE '90S OR 2000S.
PART OF THAT IS JUST THE WAY THE CORE WAS OPERATING AT THAT TIME, IN 20 PLUS YEARS, THEY'VE CHANGED SOME OF THEIR REGULATIONS.
THAT ALL SWINGS AS THE POLITICS SWING. THAT'S PART OF IT.
PART OF IT TOO IS JUST THE PROPERTY HAS SAT DORMANT FOR A WHILE, AND IT HASN'T BEEN MAINTAINED AND MANAGED.
SOME OF THAT HAS OCCURRED JUST DUE TO THE PROPERTY
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ITSELF RECEIVING WATER AND NOT BEING ABLE TO PROCESS IT AND PASS IT OUT.WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT.
WE'RE WORKING WITH DOT BECAUSE DOT IS DOING ALL THE WHITING ON 95, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO UNDERSTAND ALL THE DRAINAGE CONNECTIONS THAT IN 95 HAS, ALL OF WHICH FLOW THROUGH THE SITE TOO.
PART OF THAT ALSO IS PROBABLY DOT WATER THAT HAS COME AND COME INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT NOT BEEN ABLE TO ESCAPE AND PROPERLY BE FLESHED AND PROCESSED.
>> HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DISGORGE ALL THAT WATER THAT GOES INTO THE WETLANDS. WHERE'S IT GOING TO GO?
>> OUR GOAL IS TO NOT INHIBIT.
IF YOU LOOK AT 278, THERE ACTUALLY IS A SMALL BRIDGE RIGHT THERE.
THAT THE INTENT IS FOR THAT WATER TO FLOW THROUGH THIS WETLAND SYSTEM AND OUT UNDERNEATH THAT BRIDGE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACTS TO THE FLOODWAYS OR ANY OTHER STAGES OF THAT.
MATTER OF FACT, DOT WILL BE ENGAGED IN WITH THAT.
BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT SERVES AS A MIDDLE POINT 278-95.
YEAH, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT, THE CULVERTS CRAWL SCENES HERE AND THROUGH HERE ALL HAVE TO BE DONE THE DFT REQUIREMENTS FOR INTERSTATES, NOT JUST OUR.
I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE MATTER LAST WEEK OF INCLUDING THIS THINGS.
>> I HATE TO ASK THIS QUESTION IN A ROOMFUL OF ENGINEERS, AND I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU SAID THE INTENTION IS THAT IT WOULD FLOW UNDER THE BRIDGE THERE.
THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A HIGHLY CONFIDENT.
WHAT IF IT ISN'T SUFFICIENT? WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN?
>> WE'RE REQUIRED TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF OUR CROSSINGS EXCEED THE DOT REQUIREMENTS FOR HYDRAULIC CONNECTIVITY OR FLOOD STAGING, THOSE THINGS.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING NOW IS THAT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS DO THAT.
OUR INTENT IS TO FIX THAT AND MAKE IT WORK PROPERLY SO THAT IT DOES HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY AND THE CONDUCTIVITY TO GET ITSELF OUT TO THE SWAMP.
DOES THE STATE HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO FINANCIALLY HELP YOU SINCE IT'S THEIR WATER?
>> THANK YOU, STEVE. WELL, JEFF HAD ASKED SOME OF MINE AND WRITTEN.
BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THE UTILITIES DOWN JOHN SMITH.
THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION.
WHY WOULDN'T YOU TIE IN UP AT THE NORTH END WHERE THERE'S ALREADY UTILITIES ARE ALREADY THERE?
>> THERE'S UTILITIES ON 278 AND WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH BEAVER JASPER.
WHAT YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE IS A BREAK IN THE OVERALL SOUTHPOINT, WHERE THIS PART OF IT ACTUALLY FLOWS UP INTO 278 AND SEWER THAT DIRECTION, AND THEN THIS PART OF IT COMES DOWN TO JOHN SMITH AND COMES OVER AND TIES IN THERE.
PART OF IT IS WETLAND PERMITTING.
THERE'S SOME STAGING AND TIMING OCCURS WITH THE WETLANDS.
ALSO JUST THE WAY THE PROPERTY BREAKS.
BEAVER JASPER REALLY WANTED THIS PART OF IT TO FLOW INTO THEIR SYSTEM BY THE PUMP STATION.
>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WETLANDS FLOWING IN.
I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU'VE GOT POWER AND DOMESTIC WATER.
YOU'RE GOING TO COME DOWN JOHN SMITH AND HOOK IN.
WHY NOT GO UP TO 278 AT THE TOP, WHERE THERE IS ALREADY YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO A QUARTER OF A MILE OF CONSTRUCTION.
YOU CAN TIE IN UP AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.
>> WE ACTUALLY WILL DO BOTH. IT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, WATER WILL COME ALL THE WAY DOWN THIS FRINGE ROAD AND TIE IN BOTH DOWN HERE AND UP HERE.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO FACILITIES ON JOHN SMITH ROAD.
MUCH LIKE WE'RE CARRYING THE STATES WATER LITERALLY.
I'M GOING TO CARRY BEAVER JASPER'S WATER LITERALLY DOWN JOHN SMITH ROAD.
TO HELP CREATE THAT LOOP SYSTEM AND TO GET IT TEED UP.
WHAT'S NICE IS THAT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS THE FIRST STAGE OF DOT'S PROJECT IS TO CLOSE DOWN JOHN SMITH ROADS BRIDGE AND REPLACE THAT BRIDGE.
THAT ALLOWED THAT GIVES US A NICE CLEANER CORRIDOR TO DO A LOT OF WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ON WHEN JOHN SMITH ROAD ITSELF IS UNABLE TO BE TRAVERSED.
>> WELL, JOHN SMITH'S ROAD GOING TO BE TOTALLY CLOSED?
>> I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME UP TO 278, GET DOWN JOHN SMITH AND GO DOWN PINE NBA TO COME TO THE CITY.
THE BREAK WILL BE RIGHT PAST PINE ARBOR.
>> FOR THE PURPOSES OF REPLACING THE BRIDGE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOREVER.
>> BUT THEY'RE STAGING THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
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THIS IS DOT. YOU'RE STAGING CONSTRUCTION EIGHT WON'T BE AFFECTED.>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HE SAID PINE ARBOR JOHN SMITH IS GOING TO BE CLOSED.
YOU CAN'T CLOSE JOHN SMITH ENTIRELY BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON PINE ARBOR.
>> CORRECT. IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSED BETWEEN THE BACK OF PINE ARBOR.
YOU CAN COME DOWN 278 DOWN JOHN SMITH DOWN PINE ARBOR.
YOU JUST KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE IT IS THAT SOUTH OF PINE ARBOR, AND THEY'LL CLOSE IT AGAIN JUST NORTH OF THE REC CENTER AND THE ROYAL EVANS ACADEMY.
IS THAT WAY, THERE'S FULL ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION, THE SCHOOL, AND THE REC CENTER, AND THEN FULL ACCESS TO PINE ARBOR.
JUST THE STRETCH OF BETWEEN THE BRIDGES ARE GOING TO BE PUT DOWN.
>> A MILE OF IT GOING TO BE THERE.
>> YOUR PLAN IS TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION ON PINE ARBOR AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY'RE DOING THE BRIDGE.
>> IDEALLY. HOPEFULLY IT ALL WORKS OUT.
THAT WAY, [LAUGHTER] WE JUST THERE'S A CLEANER CORRIDOR THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH FRUIT TRAFFIC.
>> YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK OUT? [LAUGHTER]
>> JEFF ALLUDED TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND IN YOUR INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR UTILITIES.
YOU SAY THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SITE IMPACT IS FILED WITH THE CITY.
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE IT IN THE PACKET FOR US TO LOOK AT.
[NOISE] THE SAME GOING THROUGH THE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE MASTER PLAN, YOU STATE THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT ON CULTURAL OR ARCHAEOLOGICAL.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THAT PLAN TOO THAT SAYS THAT. YOU SAY IT.
>> MR. TOWER. [OVERLAPPING] THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE ORIGINAL PDD.
I'M SORRY AND I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS INITIAL MASTER PLAN.
IT'S FILED WITH THE ORIGINAL PDD THAT CAME THROUGH IN 2022.
>> WE DID NOT GET A CULTURAL PLAN WITH THAT?
WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU, BUT IT'S NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE PDD REQUIREMENTS AND NOT THE IMP.
>> WHAT I'M SAYING, KATIE, IT'S REFERENCED.
IT'S SAYING THAT IT'S FILED WITH THE CITY.
THAT'S FINE AND IT'S FILED WITH THE CITY.
IS UP HERE TODAY IT'S DOWN IN YOUR OFFICE DOESN'T HELP US MAKE A DECISION BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US.
>> I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS, BUT IT WAS PART OF THE PDD DOCUMENT.
THAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, WE'RE DOING AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN BASED ON THE APPROVED PLAN.
IT IS IN THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENT.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO LET YOU SEE THAT THOUGH.
>> WELL, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO HAVE IT AHEAD OF TIME.
THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. LET ME SEE. WELL, I GUESS THAT'S IT.
>> I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THEN.
DOES YOUR PLAN ALLOW FOR THE EVENTUAL EXPANSION OF JOHN SMITH TO 4 LANES?
>> YES, IT'LL ACCOMMODATE THAT ONCE THE FINAL ALIGNMENT OF JOHN SMITH IS NAILED DOWN. YES, IT DOES.
>> WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DRAWINGS, THE WETLAND EXHIBIT SHOWED ABOUT HALF OF THE PDD OUTSIDE THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.
I THOUGHT THE ENTIRE PDD WAS PART OF HARDEEVILLE NOW.
>> IT IS. THE WEST PORTION WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY PRIOR TO THE PDD.
IT MAYBE A CARRYOVER FROM WHEN IT WAS PART OF THE COUNTY PRIOR TO ANNEXATION.
>> FOLLOWING UP STEVE'S QUESTION TO THE LAST APPLICANT.
ARE YOU GOING TO USE SOLAR LIGHTING ALONG YOUR ROADS HERE?
>> I DON'T FORESEE US USING THEM ALONG THE ROADWAY ITSELF, BUT I DO THINK AS EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL COMES BEFORE YOU, THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS AS THEY COME THROUGH.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW WE WOULD DO THAT WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THEN SOME OF THE SIGNAGE COULD HAVE THE SOLAR PANEL TOP OF THE SIGNAGE, IF IT'S BLINKING.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE WOULD HANDLE THAT.
>> WELL, THE SOLAR PANEL FOR A STREET LIGHT IS UP ON THE LIGHT THE POLE.
I'VE SEEN 1,000S OF THEM ACROSS EUROPE.
WE SEEM TO BE SLOW TO ADOPT IT HERE.
THERE'S NO REASON THEY CAN'T HAVE SOLAR LIGHTING ALONG THE ENTIRE SPINE ROAD.
>> WELL, WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT DURING STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE.
>> ONE THING WE WILL LOOK AT AT THAT TIME IS TO SEE WHAT TREE CANOPY WE'RE DEALING WITH AND OTHER THINGS.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS APPROPRIATELY READ AS WELL.
WE'LL CONTINUE WITH THAT DISCUSSION AT SRC.
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>> WELL, IN THE ORIGINAL PDD, I THOUGHT WE WERE ALLOWING FOR APARTMENTS AS WELL AS SINGLE FAMILY PRIVATELY OWNED RESIDENCES IN THIS PICTURE AND IN THE DISCUSSION, IT LOOKED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY RENTAL.
>> THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE THERE IS NOT APPROVED.
[OVERLAPPING] AGAIN, THAT'S NOT APPROVED.
THAT IS JUST A VISUAL OF WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN, BUT EVERY PIECE OF THAT STILL HAS TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU. GO AHEAD.
>> SIR, I JUST TELL YOU WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED ON THAT PLAN IS THIS SITE 13 HERE ALONG THE INTERSTATE.
SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES.
IN THIS SITE 17A AND B, A LONG JOHN SMITH ROAD.
ALSO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED TOWN HOMES.
>> ALL ATTACHED NO STANDALONE?
>> CORRECT. AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITIES THERE, WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS FOR SMALLER LOTS.
I THINK YOU'LL AS EACH, POD COMES BEFORE YOU, THEY MIGHT HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PLAN.
THEY'RE TRENDING INTO ADDING SOME ACCESSORY UNITS AND THINGS IN SOME PROJECTS TO ALLOW FOR AFFORDABILITY AND RENTAL OPTIONS AND SO FORTH.
BUT THE OTHER SITES ARE CONTEMPLATED FOR MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS.
AS ARE THE OTHER THESE THREE HERE, 15, 11, AND 12.
>> WELL, WITH YOUR ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE, IT CERTAINLY PROVIDES AN EASY CONNECTION FOR PEOPLE WORKING IN THE SAVANNAH AREA TO LIVE UP HERE AND GET ON AND OFF THE INTERSTATE.
THAT WAS THE LAST OF MY QUESTIONS.
>> I HAVE. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THE 95 WATER IS GOING TO COME HERE, FLOW HERE.
IT'S GOT TO CROSS 278, GO BEHIND ALL OF THOSE HOUSES IN THAT SWAMP WITH THE LITTLE TWO BRIDGES HERE, OBVIOUSLY IT CROSSED UNDER THESE, AND IT'S GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE POWER LINES AND THEN NEW RIVER, WOULD THAT BE CORRECT?
>> I'M GOING FROM MEMORY THIS PART, BUT IT COMES IN AND IT SPLITS.
I'M THINKING THAT IT SPLITS EAST AND WEST ARGENT.
IT COMES UP AROUND AND THEN EVENTUALLY WORKS ITS WAY BACK DOWN SOUTH TO THE NEW RIVER.
>> AT THE POWER LINES, I'M ASSUMING.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? YES, MA'AM. COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
>> YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> I CAN. YES. MY NAME IS ROBIN PRIMUS.
I'M AT 557, HARDEEVILLE AIKEN DRIVE.
YEAH. [LAUGHTER] MY FRIEND AND REALTOR STAPLES.
MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, WE ARE LIKE IN THE MIDST OF ALL THAT'S GOING ON.
I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING.
MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, HOW'S THIS GOING TO AFFECT ME AND MY FAMILY WITH WATER, SEWER, ELECTRIC, AND SO FORTH WHEN ALL OF THIS STARTS AND GETTING IN AND OUT WHERE WE CURRENTLY RESIDE.
>> LASER YOU GOING TO TALK TO HER.
>> YOU WERE RIGHT PAST MCDONALD'S ON THE RIGHT.
>> YOU USED TO HAVE A SWIMMING POOL OUT FRONT.
>> NOT ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT CLOSE.
WE HAD CERTAINLY WORKED WITH THIS FAMILY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ONCE THEY CAME IN BECAUSE THEY WANTED RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA.
THEY KNEW THE PLANS THAT WERE GOING ON AROUND THEM.
I KNOW THAT THIS ROAD DOES HAVE A OUT THERE AT THE FRONT WHERE DOT IS AS ALLOWING THEM SO YOU CAN ACCESS FROM THIS FRONTAGE ROAD OR BACK ROAD? [OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE IT GOES BEHIND THIS.
>> NORMALLY, THE FRONTAGE ROAD IS BETWEEN THE BIG ROAD AND THE COMMERCIAL STUFF.
>> YES, WE ARE TRYING TO LIMIT ACCESS TO 278 AS YOU'VE HEARD AND MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
BUT YOUR PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN CONSIDERED AND THE CITY IS WELL AWARE OF IT AND WE WILL CERTAINLY KEEP YOU INFORMED.
>> KATIE, IS THIS THEIR LITTLE CONNECTION HERE THEN?
>> UP, NORTH, THIS WAY. HERE. [OVERLAPPING]
>> THE [INAUDIBLE] ROAD DRIVE RUNS RIGHT ALONG THERE AND THAT WILL ACCESS IT FROM THERE.
>> FROM THAT LITTLE PIECE OF FRONTAGE ROAD RIGHT THERE.
>> BECAUSE CURRENTLY WE HAVE SO MUCH [INAUDIBLE] DRAINAGE.
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HERE YOU HAVE WASTELAND.>> WHEN WE HAD THE STORM WE COULDN'T EVEN MOVE IN AND OUT, SO IT'S LIKE IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.
>> BECAUSE WE'D BE SWIMMING IF WE HAVE TO MAKE OUT OF THERE.
>> [BACKGROUND] SO WE MAKE IT BETTER.
THAT'S THE BEST INFORMATION I CAN GIVE YOU.
>> WELL, SO THAT RAISES A QUESTION.
WHAT'S THE BRIDGING PLAN FOR THEIR EXISTING CONNECTION TO ULTIMATELY MOVE TO THE BACKAGE ROAD? THERE'S SOME TIME PERIOD IN THERE WHEN ONE'S BEING BUILT, AND YOU GOT TO STILL HAVE ACCESS FROM THE ORIGINAL ROAD UNTIL THE NEW CONNECTIONS THERE BEFORE YOU CAN ABANDON IT.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO ENDURE THROUGH THAT TIME PERIOD?
>> THAT IS ALL PART OF THE DOT PROJECT.
THAT'S A WIDENING AND THE 278 WIDENING TO MET CENTER DRIVE.
CREATION OF THAT BACKAGE ROAD INCLUDING THE CONNECTION TO [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE, ALL PART OF THE DOT PROJECTS.
IN FACT, OUR PROJECT ACTUALLY STOPS JUST SOUTH OF THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK DOT IS DOING.
>> YEAH. TO THIS ROAD COMING IN AND THEN THIS BACKAGE ROAD HERE IS ALL PART OF THE DOT PROJECT ITSELF AND OUR PROJECT TYPICALLY STOPS RIGHT THERE BECAUSE THAT'S WE TIE IT INTO THE DOT WORK ITSELF AND SO ALL THAT IS COORDINATED THROUGH THE DOT.
NOW I'LL ASSUME THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE YOU ACCESS AT ALL TIMES INSTEAD OF.
>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN IS OKAY, THIS IS THE EXISTING THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE IS THIS ONE, SO YOU'RE GOING TO STOP THE SPINE ROAD RIGHT THERE?
>> WE DO BECAUSE THE LANES AND THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS WILL BE IN PLACE BY DOT AND SO WE'LL CONNECT IN THE DOT TO MAKE IT LOOK SEAMLESS AND FEEL LIKE ONE ROADWAY, AND IT WILL BE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TIE INTO THEIR WORK RIGHT THERE.
>> STAFF CAN MOST CERTAINLY WORK WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THE WIDENING KCI AND THE FOLKS FROM DOT AND MAKE SURE MS. PRIMUS'S FAMILY IS TAKING CARE OF IT.
>> BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE THIS CONNECTION RIGHT HERE? RIGHT NOW, THEY ACCESS OFF OF 278.
THEY HAVE A DIRT DRIVE THAT IS [INAUDIBLE].
WE'LL GET WITH DOT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS WHERE.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> BECAUSE THEIR ACCESS RIGHT NOW IS DOWN IN THERE AND SO THIS FINE ROAD CAN BE BUILT, AND THAT PIECE CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT HOPEFULLY DISTURBING THEIR EXISTING ACCESS.
>> THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING. CAN WE CUT AN ACCESS ROAD FROM THE SPINE ROAD INTO THAT AREA FOR THEM? WELL, THAT'S WHAT DOT IS DOING.
DOT IS GOING TO BUILD THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE FOR THEM SO THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT.
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR QUESTION IS ANSWERED.
IS THERE ANYTHING ON YOUR PROJECT THAT WOULD IMPACT THEM, NOT DOT, BUT YOUR PROJECT?
>> OUTSIDE? NO. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THAT STORM WATER ON SITE.
WE HAVE WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS STRETCH.
YOU GUYS ARE CURRENTLY ON ANY KIND OF WATER OR WELL OR SEPTIC RIGHT NOW?
>> THE OPPORTUNITY MAY BE THERE FOR YOU GUYS TO HOOK IN LONG TERM, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO COME EITHER THROUGH THAT CONNECTION DRIVE RIGHT THERE OR BACK UP FROM 278 BECAUSE OF THE WETLANDS IN THE REAR IS THAT BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE WETLANDS ALL ACROSS THE BACK OF THERE THAT PRECLUDED GOING TO EXCEPT BY WAY OF THE SPINE ROAD TIE IN OR FROM 278.
>> I'M CONCERNED NOW BECAUSE SHE SAID DURING THIS LAST STORM, THEY WERE FLOODED.
IF WE HAVE ANOTHER STORM LIKE THE ONE WE JUST WENT THROUGH, AFTER YOU BUILD AND YOU'RE BUILDING THE SPINE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE RUNOFF, THE WAY IT IS, THE WAY THE RUNOFF IS CONFIGURED NOW.
IS THE NEW RUNOFF GOING TO AFFECT THEM EVEN MORE?
>> NO. DURING STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE, AND DURING THE STATE PERMITTING, DURING THE LOCAL PERMITTING, EVERYTHING, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE TO PROVE WITH ALL OF THEIR DESIGN AND
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CALCULATIONS THAT THERE ARE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.WE CANNOT SIGN OFF IF ANY ADDITIONAL RUNOFF LEAVES THAT PROPERTY AND GOES ONTO THE PROPERTIES THERE THAT ARE EXISTING.
THEY HAVE TO CONTAIN IT ALL ON THEIR SITE, AND WE WILL NOT APPROVE IT UNTIL IT DOES.
>> MAY I ASK, IS THERE ANY INSURANCE FOR MS. PRIMUS AND HER FAMILY IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT THAT THEIR PROPERTY IS FLOODED? BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT PLAN, BUT WE ALL KNOW BUILDING PLANS JUST DON'T ALWAYS WORK.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THERE PROPERTY IS INSURED AGAINST THE LAW?
>> THE STATE PERMITTING PROCESS SAYS IT'S ILLEGAL TO CAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL ADVERSE EFFECTS SO THAT'S THE CODE, THE LAW.
IF WE FIND THAT THERE'S AN UNEXPECTED EVENT, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO INVESTIGATE IT AND GET THE DEVELOPER FIX IT.
>> THE REMEDY IS IF HER SITUATION GETS WORSE, THE DEVELOPER IS THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY?
>> YES. ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT WORST CASE.
>> I HAVE A ELDERLY MOTHER THAT DOES [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S ALWAYS FRIGHTENED ME.
>> I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER THIS, ANYONE IN THE ROOM, BUT WITH ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, WILL THIS INCREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR STANDALONE PROPERTY, OR WILL IT BASICALLY DECREASE IT BECAUSE THEY GOT ALL THE NEW.
>> I THINK MY ANSWER WOULD BE IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE MARKET AND THE DESIRE FOR SOMEONE WHO WANT THE PROPERTY.
>> I DO THINK, BUT IT WAS ALSO BEEN DONE, YOU HAVE AN ACCESS OFF THE SPINE ROAD AND INTO THAT STOP LIGHT MAKES ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY TO ME MUCH BETTER BECAUSE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE STOP LIGHT.
>> IT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THE DEMAND FOR PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY ASSURANCES.
>> YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTION?
>> I HAVE A QUESTION AND PROBABLY IT'S NOT EVEN IN ORDER.
IS THERE A REASON THAT THEY WEREN'T, MS. PRIMUS AND HER FAMILY WERE NOT ASKED TO BUY THEIR LAND? IT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A PARCEL THERE, I'M CURIOUS.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DISCUSS THAT IN THIS PLANNING COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON ZONING BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER THE MEETING.
>> MEET YOU OUTSIDE. [LAUGHTER].
>> SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT A SOLUTION TO ALL THEIR PROBLEMS. [BACKGROUND] ANY OTHER?
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE? SEEING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> I MOVE WE APPROVE CONSIDERATION OF INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR SOUTHPOINT INFRASTRUCTURE LOCATED BETWEEN HIGHWAY 278, I95 AND JOHN SMITH ROAD IN THE SOUTH POINT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.
>> MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU ALL.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, PLANNING MANAGER'S REPORT.
>> HERE AGAIN TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THAT AGENDA ITEM TITLE BECAUSE MS. WOODRUFF HAS A NEW TITLE AND A NEW I GUESS.
EVERYTHING. SHE HAS GOT A NEW POSITION.
SHE IS NOW THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, AND I WELCOME THAT, AND IT'S VERY EXCITING FOR ALL OF US.
SHE'S GOT A LOT MORE TO GO THROUGH AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
I'M TURNING IT BACK OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
>> WE CHANGE IT FROM PLANNING REPORT TO PLANNING DIRECTOR'S REPORT?
FIRST MATTER OF BUSINESS, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEWEST EMPLOYEE.
WE HAVE A SENIOR PLANNER NOW, JOE DUFFY, AND I'M GOING TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT,
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HE WANTS TO TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIMSELF WHERE HE CAME FROM.SORRY. I DIDN'T WARN YOU ABOUT.
>> [INAUDIBLE]. GOOD MORNING PS COMMISSION MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS JOE DUFFY, AND I'M PLEASED TO BE WITH Y'ALL HERE THIS MORNING.
I'M ORIGINALLY NATIVE TO SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE I'VE GOT A QUIRKY ACCENT.
I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LIVING UP IN CLEVELAND, OHIO THE LAST 15 YEARS SO I DID THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN DOING DURING THAT TIME.
BUT I'VE BEEN WORKING IN [NOISE] CITY PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT UP THERE IN A FEW DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND VERY EXCITED TO SERVE THE HARDEEVILLE COMMUNITY.
IT'S CHANGED A LOT WHILE I'VE BEEN GONE, BUT AS WE DISCUSSED TODAY, CERTAINLY A LOT OF EXCITING PROJECTS, SO A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL AND GETTING TO KNOW YOU IN DAYS AHEAD.
>> WELL, YOU CAN GET RID OF YOUR SNOW SHOVEL. WELCOME.
>> VERY HAPPY TO HAVE HIS EXPERIENCE HERE WITH US, AND ADD TO OUR TEAM.
SRC REVIEW STILL GOING STRONG, AND WE HAVE MEETINGS PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEK, BUT I WANT TO HIT A COUPLE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THE BOYD STREET.
THE CITY IS DOING SIDEWALK EXTENSION ON BOYD STREET, WHICH IS UNDER REVIEW, AND HOPEFULLY CLOSE TO FINAL PERMITTING SHORTLY HERE, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
HARBOR FREIGHT AT OKATIE CROSSINGS IS NEARING PERMIT ISSUANCE.
THE FINAL PHASE OF THE RETREAT AT EAST ARGENT, PHASE 6 IS UNDER REVIEW, AND WE WERE TALKING THE OTHER DAY.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE FASTEST BUILT OUT COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD IN PROBABLY THE HISTORY OF HARDEEVILLE [LAUGHTER]SO THAT WILL CONNECT DOWN TO JASPER STATION ROAD SO THAT'LL GIVE US THAT JASPER STATION UP TO EAST ARGENT PARKWAY CONNECTIVITY, WHICH WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.
THEN WE HAVE ONE AT JOHN SMITH AND 278 NEXT TO THE EXISTING SKIN CANCER CLINIC BUILDING.
THEY'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER BUILDING THAT PRETTY MUCH MIRRORS THAT ONE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL DOCTORS OFFICES, WHICH I THINK ARE MUCH NEEDED IN THIS AREA SO WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEIR STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE REVIEWS RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THEY'VE DONE ONE RESUBMITTAL, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE PERMITTED SHORTLY.
CHRIS HAS BEEN HANDLING A COUPLE OF OUR PRE CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS SO TWO KEY ONES THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT ARE ABOUT TO GO TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'LL START SOME CONSTRUCTION ARE THE NORTHERN ACCESS FOR THE SHERWOOD TRACT, WHICH IS UP NEAR THE PILOT STATION.
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE WITH EXIT 5 IN THE NEW FRONTAGE ROAD.
WE'VE COORDINATED WITH SC DOT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING ALIGNS POTENTIALLY HOPEFULLY FOR A FUTURE SIGNAL.
SO THAT'S HAD A LOT OF BEHIND THE SCENES WORK.
AND THEN RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE LATITUDE AREA, THERE'S A LITTLE PARCEL KNOWN AS THE ROLLER TRACT, WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE A NEW CELL TOWER, WHICH I KNOW IS NEEDED FOR SOME OF THOSE LATITUDE RESIDENTS RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S SOME SPOTTY SERVICE, BUT IT'S ON A PRETTY GOOD LOCATION.
IT WON'T BE SUPER VISIBLE BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS, IT'S SURROUNDED BY WETLANDS SO YOU'LL START TO SEE SOME OF THAT.
THERE IS A PUBLIC MEETING NEXT TUESDAY FROM 3:30 TO 5:30 AT THE REC CENTER.
IT'S FOR A CORRIDOR STUDY FOR SC 46 AND 315, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED, THAT IS BEING HELD BY LOWCOUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AT OUR REC CENTER.
THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO ADD IS, AS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD OUR TEAM, WE ARE WORKING ON SOME TRAINING FOR OUR STAFF MEMBERS AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT CHRIS'S LANDSCAPING TREE CERTIFICATION NOT TOO LONG AGO.
BUT JOE AND CHRIS ARE GOING TO GO TO THE SOUTH EAST CHAPTER INTERNATIONAL EROSION CONTROL ASSOCIATION, TRAINING WITH DES, WHICH USED TO BE DHEC AND SC DOT.
IT'S BEING HELD BY THE EROSION CONTROL TECHNOLOGY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER, SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING.
IT'S GOING TO OFFER SOME FIELD TRAINING AS WELL AS IN CLASSROOM SPACE SO IT WILL BE A GOOD EXPERIENCE AND WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE UNDER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND THAT KNOWLEDGE AND THAT THE EROSION CONTROL AREA AND LEARN ABOUT SOME OF
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THE NEW TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT AND BENEFICIAL.>> EXCITING IS NOT NECESSARILY THE WORD I WOULD USE TO DESCRIBE THAT, BUT OKAY.
>> IF YOU SAW THE FACILITY, I'M A LITTLE JEALOUS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR KATIE OR BRANNA, GUYS?
>> YOU JUST MENTIONED HARBOR FREIGHT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
>> IT'LL BE AT OKATIE CROSSINGS OVER NEAR PET PARADISE AND THE SELF STORAGE PLACE.
>> ON THE BEAUFORT SIDE OF THE ROAD?
>> IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SIDE OF THE ROAD, YES.
>> I KNOW. ALL GOING TO BE BROKE.
>> THAT'S GOING TO COST ME MONEY.
>> THAT BRINGS US TO COMMISSIONER MEMBER COMMENTS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
>> AYE. STAND ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.