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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE ARE GOING TO START THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND OUR INVOCATION BY VALERIE GUZMAN.

PLEASE RISE.

HEAVENLY FATHER IN OUR HEARTS WE PLAN OUR COURSE, BUT WE PRAY THAT YOU ESTABLISH OUR STEPS.

I PRAY THAT WE SEEK YOU FOR ADVICE.

LET US NOT MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON WHAT WE KNOW, BUT LET US GET, LET US ACT BASED UPON YOUR WISDOM.

PLEASE GUIDE US, LORD.

WE PLACE THIS MEETING IN YOUR HANDS.

AMEN. AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT, FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE AROUND THE WORLD, PROTECTING OUR WAY OF LIFE.

THANK YOU. OKAY WE'LL NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.

REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING, 205 MAIN STREET, HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, MAY 16TH, 2024 AT 5 P.M..

FIRST WE WILL ADOPT THE AGENDA.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING? MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR MAY 16TH COUNCIL MEETING.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. OKAY.

NEXT, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANYBODY SIGN UP? NO, MAYOR. OH, AND I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNTY COUNCILMAN JOHN KEMP.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, COUNCILMAN.

NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS.

INTRODUCTION OF POLICE OFFICER JOSH MYERS.

CHIEF WOODWARD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, AND GOOD EVENING.

GREAT HONOR TO COME FOR YOU AGAIN AND INTRODUCE YOU ANOTHER ADDITION TO THE HARDEEVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THIS IS JOSH MEYERS.

HE'S ORIGINALLY FROM DES MOINES, IOWA.

HE COMES TO US WITH TEN YEARS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERIENCE IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA.

HE ALSO HAS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE AND A HE ALSO IS AN ARMY VETERAN AS WELL.

SO WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE HIM.

I'LL GIVE HIM A MINUTE TO ADDRESS EVERYBODY.

WELCOME, WELCOME.

THANK YOU. I'M VERY EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. GREAT.

SIR, COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR FAMILY? MY MY WIFE AND THEN MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER, AND WE JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO BLUFFTON.

SHE JUST GOT A JOB IN HILTON HEAD, AND MY MOM AND DAD LIVED IN BLUFFTON FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS, BUT THEY NOW LIVE IN GEORGIA, SO THEY HAD TO MOVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION BECAUSE MY MOM WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING UP DOWN STEPS.

OH, OKAY.

WELL, WELCOME.

COUNCIL. WELCOME.

AND WE WISH YOU A LOT OF A LOT OF SUCCESS HERE.

THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE INTRODUCTION OF FIREFIGHTERS.

JOSEPH WARE AH.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND BRIAN NOWAK, MR. NOWAK HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY HE WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.

OKAY. GOT TO GET HIM.

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THIS IS MR. JOSEPH WARE? HE'S BEEN IN THE FIRE SERVICE A LITTLE OVER A YEAR.

COME TO US FROM JOHNS ISLAND.

OH, YES, SIR, JUST OUTSIDE OF CHARLESTON.

AND HE'S BEEN WITH US A MONTH AND A HALF NOW.

SO DOING GOOD, DOING WELL.

AND I'LL LET YOU LET HIM INTRODUCE HIMSELF.

YES. WELCOME, SIR. THANK YOU SIR.

SO, LIKE CHIEF SAID JUST WORK FOR SAINT JOHNS FIRE PREVIOUSLY.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

MY WIFE AND I, WE MOVED DOWN HERE TO BE CLOSER TO FAMILY.

HER FAMILY IS IN THE SAVANNAH AREA.

BEEN IN THE BEEN AROUND.

I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE FIRE SERVICE WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL.

TOOK AN INTEREST IN IT.

KNEW I WANTED TO DO IT AS A CAREER.

LIVE RIGHT HERE IN BLUFFTON.

YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ME.

LOOK FORWARD TO IT. THANK YOU.

WHAT PART OF PENNSYLVANIA? LANCASTER COUNTY.

LANCASTER. OKAY.

I'M A PHILADELPHIA BOY.

OKAY. I'M A LITTLE PARTIAL TO PENNSYLVANIA PEOPLE.

UNDERSTOOD. BOY, I HEARD OF WHERE THAT IS, TOO.

YEAH. SO? SO WELCOME. COUNCIL, ANY WORDS.

WELCOME TO YOU. WELCOME.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

OKAY. GOOD LUCK AND A LOT OF SUCCESS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR OUR SUMMER INTERN IS BEEN TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA.

AND NEXT WE HAVE KIDS TWO PARK DAY PROCLAMATION.

MISS IMELDA ASKEW.

WELCOME. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MR. STEVE ARNOTT EVERYONE.

IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.

I'M. THERE WE GO.

THERE'S THE MIC. I SHOULD KNOW BETTER RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN HEAR YOU. THERE WE GO.

SO HELLO EVERYONE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO COME AND INVITE YOU ALL AND THE PUBLIC TO COME JOIN US THIS SATURDAY FOR OUR NATIONAL KIDS TO PARKS DAY/HARDEEVILLE YOUTH FISHING RODEO. IT'S GOING TO BE A HECK OF AN EVENT.

WE HAVE SOME RAIN IN THE FORECAST, BUT THAT MAKES FOR BETTER FISHING.

SO IF YOU KNOW ABOUT FISHING, YOU KNOW THAT'S GOING TO GET THE FISH READY, JUMPING AND EXCITING.

AS WE'RE SPEAKING, WE HAVE OUR FRIENDS BRINGING OVER THE FISH CLOSE TO 2,000 POUNDS OF READY TO CATCH CATFISH.

THE KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE A BLAST.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE INVITE THE WHOLE FAMILY TO COME OUT.

OKAY, I DON'T NEED THAT.

SO JUST A REMINDER FOR EVERYBODY.

IT'S MY JOB. I SHOULD KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WITHOUT NOTES, RIGHT? AND THEN, OF COURSE, ELIZABETH COMING AND SAVING THE DAY.

THANK YOU.

SO, NATIONAL PARKS DAY, HERE'S A QUICK LITTLE QUOTE.

NATIONAL KIDS TO PARKS DAY IS DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO CONNECT KIDS TO THE EXPERIENCES FOUND IN OUR PARKS.

KIDS TODAY. THIS IS MEL SPEAKING MORE THAN EVER.

BACK TO THE QUOTE. NEED OUTDOOR AND CULTURAL EXPERIENCES FOUND IN OUR PARKS, WHICH HELP THEM CONNECT AND DISCOVER SOMETHING ABOUT THEMSELVES.

WHEN WE HAD COVID, EVERYBODY WAS COOPED UP, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY DO BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD GO OUTSIDE, BREATHE IN THE FRESH AIR, HAVE THAT WARM SUNSHINE, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HAVE THE THING THAT COVID HAD DIMINISHED FOR US, WHICH WAS A HUMAN CONNECTION.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO KEEP THAT GOING, HAVE KIDS EXCITED ABOUT NATURE AND THE WORLD AROUND THEM, AND SEE HOW BEAUTIFUL HARDEEVILLE IS WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TOO FAR.

WE HAVE SOME MANY OF THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE SHOULD COME OUT, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK IT'S THOSE SMILES ON THOSE FACES GETTING TO SEE THE PRIDE KIDS FEEL WHEN THEY CATCH A BIG ONE, AND JUST KNOWING THAT THEY'RE HAVING FUN, THEY'RE BEING HEALTHY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THEY'RE CONNECTING.

IMPROVEMENT OF HEALTH, ENJOYMENT OF THE OUTDOORS AND SPENDING TIME WITH FAMILY.

MY DAD ACTUALLY COMES OUT TO THIS EVENT.

HE DOESN'T COME OUT TO MANY, BUT THIS IS THE ONE HE COMES WITH MY BROTHERS, SO IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING.

AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE LOVE HAVING THEIR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AUNTS, UNCLES AND EVEN THEIR CHOSEN FAMILY COME AND JOIN THEM.

SO HERE'S THE OPEN INVITATION FOR COUNCIL ALL OF MY FELLOW COWORKERS HERE IN HARDEEVILLE AND TO OUR PUBLIC THAT WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.

COME JOIN US. SATURDAY, MAY 18TH, 8 A.M.

TO 11 A.M. HERE AT THE POND IN THE RICHARD GRAY RECREATION COMPLEX.

KIDS HAVE TO BE 16 YEARS OR YOUNGER TO REGISTER FOR THE PRIZES, BUT PARENTS AND EVERYONE ELSE CAN COME WITH THE KIDDOS.

PLEASE BRING A FISHING POLE, BUG SPRAY, AND SUNSCREEN.

IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE SOME STUFF ON STANDBY FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISS OUT.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE WILL BE SOME FREE YUMMY LUNCH OF HOT DOGS, CHIPS AND DRINKS AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE Y'ALL! AND HERE'S MY FAVORITE BIT.

THE KIDS NEED PARKS AND PARKS NEED KIDS.

THAT LITTLE GUY RIGHT THERE IS MAX.

HE WAS HAVING THE TIME OF HIS LIFE, AND I LOVE BEING ABLE TO WATCH ALL THE KIDS COME BACK EVERY YEAR AS THEY GET BIGGER AND MORE CONFIDENT, AND THEY'RE JUST SUPER PROUD OF THEMSELVES. THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

MEL, DON'T DON'T GO RUNNING AWAY.

I'M SO SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION.

OH, I GET TO READ IT.

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OH, YEAH.

WELL OF COURSE.

DO YOU HAVE A COPY FOR HER? I HAVE ONE IN FRONT OF ME.

THE REAL SUPERHEROES, THEY SAVE ME.

THERE YOU GO. LIKE I'M NOT WORTHY.

WELL THANK YOU. IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO DO THIS.

WHEREAS MAY 18TH, 2024 IS THE 14TH KIDS TO DAY, PARKS DAY, ORGANIZED AND LAUNCHED BY THE NATIONAL PARK TRUST, HELD ANNUALLY ON THE THIRD SATURDAY OF MAY.

AND WHEREAS KIDS TWO, PARKS DAY EMPOWERS KIDS AND ENCOURAGES FAMILIES TO GET OUTDOORS AND VISIT AMERICA'S PARK PUBLIC LANDS AND WATERS.

AND WHEREAS, WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE CHILDREN TO LEAD A MORE ACTIVE LIFESTYLE TO COMBAT ISSUES OF CHILDHOOD OBESITY, DIABETES, HYPERTENSION AND HYPER CAN'T PRONOUNCE THAT, HYPER CHOLESTEROL.

YEAH THAT AND FOR US KIDS TO PARKS DAY WILL BROADEN CHILDREN'S APPRECIATION FOR NATURE AND OUTDOORS.

NOW THEREFORE, THIS IS A DUET, SIR.

THEREFORE.. I MAYOR HARRY WILLIAMS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 18TH, 2024 AS KIDS TO PARK DAY.

AND NOW THAT ONE WORD IS WHY I ASKED YOU TO READ THE PROCLAMATION, SIR.

I WILL TAKE THAT.

SO I WOULD AT THIS TIME.

I'D LIKE ASK THE COUNCIL IF THEY WOULD ENDORSE THE PROCLAMATION.

ABSOLUTELY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE.

GREAT. DID A GREAT JOB.

AND I'M SURE YOU SAID THAT RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. IT'S AN INFORMAL THING.

THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T ASK FOR A MOTION.

JUST ACTING LIKE KIDS. I FIGURED I COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE EMS WEEK PROCLAMATION.

CHIEF JOEY RAO.

JOIN US AT THE PODIUM.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF EMS WEEK.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR AMBULANCE SERVICE UP IN HERE.

SO IT'S 50 YEARS FOR THAT ANNIVERSARY AND OUR FIRST ANNIVERSARY WITH OUR EMS. SO WE WANT TO DO THE PROCLAMATION, AND I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO READ IT FOR YOU.

GOOD ASSUMPTION.

FANTASTIC. ALL RIGHT.

WHEREAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IS A VITAL PUBLIC SERVICE.

AND WHEREAS THE MEMBERS OF THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TEAMS ARE READY TO PROVIDE LIFE SAVING CARE TO THOSE IN NEED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. AND WHEREAS ACCESS TO QUALITY EMERGENCY CARE DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES THEIR SURVIVAL AND RECOVERY RATE OF THOSE WHO EXPERIENCE SUDDEN ILLNESS OR INJURY.

AND WHEREAS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES HAS GROWN TO FILL A GAP BY PROVIDING IMPORTANT AND OUT OF HOSPITAL CARE, INCLUDING PREVENTATIVE MEDICINE, FOLLOW UP CARE AND ACCESS TO TELEMEDICINE.

AND WHEREAS, THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES SYSTEMS CONSIST OF FIRST RESPONDERS, EMERGENCY MEDICAL TECHNICIANS, PARAMEDICS, EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE OFFICERS, EDUCATORS, ADMINISTRATORS, PRE-HOSPITAL NURSES, EMERGENCY NURSES, EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS, TRAINED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND OTHER OUT OF HOSPITAL MEDICAL MEDICAL CARE PROVIDERS.

AND WHEREAS, THE MEMBERS OF THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES TEAM, WHETHER CAREER OR VOLUNTEER, ENGAGE IN THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND CONTINUING EDUCATION TO ENHANCE THEIR LIFE SAVING SKILLS.

AND WHEREAS IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE VALUE AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE PROVIDERS BY DESIGNATING THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, MAYOR HARRY WILLIAMS, IN RECOGNITION OF THIS EVENT, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 19TH TO 25, 2024 AS EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES WEEK.

THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF EMS WEEK THEME IS EMS WEEK HONORING OUR PAST, FORGING OUR FUTURE.

I ENCOURAGE THE COMMUNITY TO OBSERVE THIS WEEK WITH APPROPRIATE PROGRAMS, CEREMONIES, AND ACTIVITIES.

I'D LIKE A MOTION TO ENDORSE THIS PROCLAMATION.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ENDORSE THIS PROCLAMATION.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE.

YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB READING THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF OUR EMS SERVICES.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

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NEXT WE HAVE THE HARDEEVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CITIZEN'S ACADEMY.

CHIEF WOODWARD. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I APPROACHED THE CHIEF ABOUT HAVING A PROGRAM SUCH AS THIS, AND THANKFUL FOR HIM TO ALLOW US TO DO THAT, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A FEW MINUTES ABOUT WHAT IS THE CITIZEN'S POLICE ACADEMY.

FIRST OF ALL, AND I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT ONE.

I THINK IT'S THE MOUSE.

THE MOUSE. MAYBE I HAD IT TURNED BACKWARDS.

I TRIED TO FLIP IT AROUND IN MY HAND AND DROP.

OF COURSE.

THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO.

I'D LIKE TO READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT, BECAUSE WHAT WE TALK ABOUT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT OUR MISSION STATEMENT SAYS IT IS TO CONSISTENTLY PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.

WE RECOGNIZE OUR ETHICAL RESPONSIBILITY AND COMMIT OURSELVES TO A HIGH STANDARD OF PROFESSIONAL ACCOUNTABILITY, DIGNITY AND RESPECT FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS HAVE PROVIDED THE FOUNDATION OF OUR COMMUNITY POLICING PARTNERSHIPS.

OUR MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY BY EMPLOYING PROACTIVE POLICING STRATEGIES AND PROBLEM SOLVING. SO IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BEING A PARTNER WITH THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY? IT IS TO STRENGTHEN TIES BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE PUBLIC.

THE CPA HELPS DISPEL MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT POLICING PERPETUATED BY TELEVISION AND MOVIES.

WE'VE ALL SEEN THE SHOWS WHERE THE CRIME IS SOLVED WITHIN THE HOUR.

WHY DON'T WE DO THAT HERE? THE CPA HELPS PROVIDE INSIGHT INTO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OPERATIONS, AND IT CAN GENERATE INTEREST AMONG YOUNGER PARTICIPANTS ABOUT A CAREER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND HERE'S MY DISCLAIMER.

THE INTENT OF THE CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY IS NOT TO TRAIN CITIZENS TO BECOME POLICE OFFICERS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

INSTEAD. WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW PARTICIPANTS FIRSTHAND OF THE DAILY RESPONSIBILITIES AND EXPECTATIONS OF THE OCCUPATION OF POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER POLICE STAFF. AND WEEK BY WEEK, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

WHAT WAS WORKING BEFORE.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT SHE'S DONE. HEY.

AND WHAT'S EXPECTED FROM OUR PARTICIPANTS? REGULAR ATTENDANCE, OBVIOUSLY, WE WANT, BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW SO MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THINGS WE'RE GOING TO COVER.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO ASK QUESTIONS, HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT CURRENT AND RELEVANT, RELEVANT TOPICS, AND TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND DURING THE PROCESS AND OBVIOUSLY TO SHARE THE BENEFITS ONCE THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

THE SECOND WEEK OF THE PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR COP PROGRAM, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN, AND I AND ALSO OUR SRO PROGRAM AND HOW WE CAN HAVE A POSITIVE INFLUENCE.

AND OTHER THAN BEING SEEN AS ENFORCERS, SO MANY PEOPLE FORGET THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN PEOPLE SEE A POLICE OFFICER, THEY THINK, OH, GOSH, I'M EITHER GOING TO JAIL OR GETTING A TICKET. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO OUR PATROL DIVISION, OUR CODES ENFORCEMENT AND ANIMAL CONTROL.

AND THEN WEEK FOUR WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR CID OR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, WHAT TOOLS THEY HAVE, WHAT ARE THE THINGS NECESSARY FOR THEM TO MAKE A CASE.

AND ONCE THAT CASE IS MADE, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? SOMETIMES AND OF COURSE, WEEK 5, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR CANINE DIVISION AND OUR SPECIAL RESPONSE TEAM.

AND IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THIS DOG IN A WHILE, IT LOOKS NOTHING LIKE THIS ONE ANYMORE.

HE WAS A LITTLE TINY THING NOW THEN RATHER.

AND NOW HE IS HUGE.

SO. BUT HE'LL BE THERE.

REAPER WILL BE THERE.

AND OF COURSE WEEK SIX, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR TRAINING DIVISION AND OUR TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT DIVISION.

WHAT TYPES OF JOBS DO THOSE PEOPLE HAVE? WHAT WHAT KIND OF DETAILS DO THEY HAVE TO DO? AND WEEK SEVEN, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR MUNICIPAL COURT SYSTEM.

AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A VOLUNTOLD OR A VOLUNTEER IF NO ONE WANTS TO DO SUCH.

HEY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOCK TRIAL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE HURDLES AS LAW ENFORCEMENT WE HAVE.

AND JUDGE, YOU'RE FULLY AWARE OF THIS.

THERE'S A LOT MORE WE HAVE TO DO ON OUR END THAN THE DEFENDANT DOES.

AND AND LAST WEEK WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUR VICTIM SERVICES.

VICTIM SERVICES.

WHAT PART DOES THAT PERSON PLAY? WHAT KIND OF IMPACT CAN THE VICTIM HAVE ON THAT CASE OF THEM BEING THE VICTIM? AND ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM JASPER COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES THERE TO WALK THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS OF QUESTIONS THEY ASK.

AND AND THEY'LL PROBABLY EVEN HEAR SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE HAD TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT THAT IS JUST BLOW YOUR MIND THE THINGS PEOPLE CALL 911 ABOUT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SO FAR? ALL RIGHT. OUR CLASSES ARE GOING TO START JULY THE 9TH.

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IT'S ON A TUESDAY. THEY'LL BE FROM 6 TO 8 P.M.

AT THE REC CENTER ON JOHN SMITH DRIVE.

GRADUATION WILL HAPPEN ON SEPTEMBER THE 9TH.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PIZZA PARTY, AND ALL PARTICIPANTS ARE GOING TO BE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND.

ALL OF OUR OFFICERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED WILL BE THERE AS WELL.

AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A WEEK BREAK FROM THE LAST CLASS UNTIL THE GRADUATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PARTICIPANTS, THE PARTICIPANTS, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THINGS THROUGH OUR EYES, KIND OF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SIMULATOR AVAILABLE FOR US SO THAT THEY ACTUALLY GET TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO ENCOUNTER, SOMETIMES ON A DAILY BASIS, AND SEE HOW THEY REACT TO STIMULUS FROM THIS SYSTEM.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

THEY ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A RIDE ALONG WITH SOME OF OUR OFFICERS TO SEE FIRSTHAND.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

WHAT DID YOU SAY GRADUATION WAS? SEPTEMBER 9TH. IT'S THE WEEK AFTER LABOR DAY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BREAK THAT WEEK.

BUT PEOPLE ENJOY TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO OUT OF TOWN OR WHATEVER.

YES, SIR. AND THE PARTICIPANTS, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO TO? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ONLINE PROCESS, AN ONLINE APPLICATION.

IT GOES LIVE IN THE MORNING.

I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IT OUT THERE FIRSTHAND.

I WANT PEOPLE TO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WATCHING THIS OR SEEING, HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING I WANT TO DO.

OR MAYBE IT'S NOT, BUT THERE'LL BE AN ONLINE APPLICATION TO BE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, THE TOWN'S FACEBOOK PAGE, AND THERE'LL BE A LINK ACCESSIBLE ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AS WELL FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND ARE THEIR AGES.

THAT 18? 18 AND UP.

OKAY. YES, SIR.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW UP YOU TALKING ABOUT.

MAYBE OVER THE UP, I WILL SAY.

AND FOR ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN THIS.

SOME YEARS BACK, THE CHIEF ARRANGED FOR SOME OF THE COUNCIL.

WE WENT TO BEAUFORT COUNTY.

REMEMBER, CHIEF, AND DID THOSE SIMULATIONS? AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

YOU DO WANT JUST ONE OF THOSE, AND YOU HAVE A NEW RESPECT FOR WHAT POLICE OFFICERS GO THROUGH.

I KNOW I LEARNED QUITE A BIT FROM FROM DOING THAT.

IT'S THE SAME SIMULATOR. IT'S CALLED A T SIMULATOR.

YEAH, YEAH, IT'S I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE WHO GET TO DO THAT, THE MORE THEY'LL UNDERSTAND THE OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND THE DIFFICULTY OF YOUR OF YOUR JOB.

YEAH. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

YEAH, I'VE ALREADY HAD PEOPLE INQUIRE ABOUT THE CLASS.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A FEW OTHER PLACES, AND HOPEFULLY WE GET ENOUGH RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'LL DO IT MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR.

I'LL BE GLAD TO DO IT TWICE A YEAR SO WE CAN REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN.

SO IT WILL BE UP AND RUNNING FOR APPLICANTS TOMORROW IN THE MORNING.

YES. OKAY. I WOULD JUST SAY, WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WATCH ON THE TV EVERY NIGHT ABOUT THE CLASHES BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND THEIR POLICE FORCE, IT'S SO REFRESHING WITH THE JOB YOU ALL DO TO CREATE THE KIND OF ATMOSPHERE WE HAVE WITH OUR POLICE HERE THAT IS SO DIFFERENT AND SO IMPORTANT. AND SO I JUST SAY THANK YOU.

THIS AND THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF ALL THAT.

BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING, SAM.

THE LEADERSHIP, IT'S REFRESHING AND DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I WATCH ON THE NEWS EVERY EVENING.

WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS WAS THE DAY OR TWO AGO ABOUT SAM AND ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT AND THE REPUTATION.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE SAM'S DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE A BAD REPUTATION IN THE COMMUNITY AT ALL.

AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S AN ACCIDENT, EITHER.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO GET BECAUSE SO MANY LIKE YOU SAY, JOEY HAVE THAT PERCEPTION.

AND I DON'T THINK OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, I DON'T EVER HEAR THAT FROM ABOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY.

AND I ADMIRE YOU FOR DOING THAT AND LETTING SAM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THAT.

BUT. GREAT.

THANK YOU SIR.

GOOD LUCK. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. YOU SHOULD AT THE END OR DURING THE MIDDLE, GIVE US A REPORT ON WHAT THE TURNOUT WAS AND THE SUCCESS OF IT.

AND I'M SURE THE COUNCIL WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HOW THIS WORKED OUT.

YES, SIR. WE'LL GET YOU A REPORT, BECAUSE I HOPE WE HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT SO WE CAN KEEP KEEP IT ON GOING.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

AND LIKE I SAID, IF I CAN GET ENOUGH TURNOUT AND GET ENOUGH PEOPLE INTERESTED IN INCLUDING YOURSELVES, IF YOU WANT TO COME OUT TO IT, I APPRECIATE Y'ALL COMING OUT AND BEING A PART OF IT. YEAH.

THANK YOU. YOU GET ENOUGH OF THE UPS LIKE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO WITH THE UPS PART OF IT, BUT ANYWAY, NO JOKE.

FUTURE CANDIDATES FOR POLICE LATER ON.

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YEAH, WELL, I APPRECIATE CORPORAL GUINN COMING TO ME AND ASKING ME ABOUT IT, AND AND AS SOON AS HE DID, I WAS ALL IN FOR IT, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY GET CLOSER TOGETHER.

WE NEED TO GET WE NEED TO BE AS ONE.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

AND IF YOU RECALL, I THINK JEN PROBABLY DOES.

WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING WHAT TO PUT IN THE REC CENTER, I SUGGESTED A ROOM WITH THE SIMULATOR.

WELL, I WAS GOING TO MENTION ABOUT MAYBE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET PUTTING IN FOR ONE, BUT I'LL GET WITH Y'ALL LATER ON THAT.

YEAH. THERE'LL BE SOME.

YEAH, WE'LL BE GETTING A SUMMONS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

HE PUT IT BACK ON US.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE MAY 2ND, 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF MAY? SECOND? MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 2ND? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

NEXT WE HAVE OLD BUSINESS AND A COUPLE OF SECOND READINGS.

FIRST IS SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 3.19 ACRES OF REAL ESTATE LOCATED IN JASPER COUNTY, NOT ALREADY WITHIN THE HARDEEVILLE CITY LIMITS.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024-5-2A, MR. CZYMBOR, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING. I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OTHER THAN WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION AT SECOND READING.

OKAY. HI.

THAT WAS EASY. THAT WAS EASY.

OKAY. MRS. GUZMAN. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

MR. WHITE. NO QUESTIONS.

MR. CARROLL.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS PRETTY THOROUGHLY LAST TWO WEEKS AGO.

SO AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE, THIS ANNEXATION? SEEING NONE. I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2024-5-2A.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF 2024-5-2A.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. OKAY, NOW, THE SECOND READING, THE NEXT ONE IS THAT SAME PARCEL.

AND THIS IS TO AMEND THE ZONING NOW THAT THAT PARCEL HAS BEEN ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

AND IT GOES FROM RURAL COMMERCIAL IN UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL IN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.

THIS IS SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2024-5-2B.

MR. CZYMBOR, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NO, SIR. OTHER THAN WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION SECOND READING.

OKAY. WE'LL START THIS TIME WITH MR. CARROLL. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. SAME THING AS FIRST ORDINANCE.

WE DID GO INTO THIS IN DEPTH TWO WEEKS AGO.

OKAY. MR. WHITE, I AGREE THAT TWO WEEKS, WE GOT A LOT OF INFORMATION.

NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

MRS. GUZMAN.

NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SIR.

I HAVE NONE EITHER.

THIS WAS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD, SO I'LL OPEN IT NOW TO THE PUBLIC.

ANY, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? ZONING CHANGE? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS SECOND READING OF 2024-5-2B. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE 2024-5-2B.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. OKAY.

NOW THE NEXT ORDINANCE.

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THIS IS ALSO AN ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY OF 5.164 ACRES LOCATED IN JASPER COUNTY.

AND THIS ONE IS ORDINANCE 2024-5-C.

MR. CZYMBOR, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? OH, YEAH. JUST QUICKLY, MR. MAYOR. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION AT SECOND READING THE COUNCIL.

I GUESS WE DID HAVE A INQUIRY BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MAP, LOT ONE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ANNEXATION, IF YOU RECALL THAT.

I THINK IT'S .757 ACRES.

I DID MAKE A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION AND OR, I GUESS, CLARIFICATION ON WHY THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ANNEXATION.

AND I'LL TELL YOU FRANKLY, I WAS SURPRISED THAT I GOT KIND OF A NON-ANSWER.

HE WAS VERY, I WILL SAY, RELUCTANT TO GIVE US AN ANSWER.

AND WHEN I KEPT PRESSING, AS YOU KNOW ME TO GET AN ANSWER, HE SUGGESTED THAT PROPERTY WAS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, AND BE, I MEAN, DEVELOPED OTHER THAN WITH RIGHT OF WAY OR INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIGHT OF WAY, AND THEN SECONDLY, I THINK I BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS IN JASPER COUNTY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SLOW DOWN THE TRAIN OR CONFUSE THE SITUATION.

SO I CAN RESPECT THAT ANSWER.

EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DEALT WITH, AGAIN, THIS CORPORATION ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, I THINK WE'VE PROVED HOPEFULLY THAT WE ARE VERY EASY AND GOOD TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WE LIKE PROPERTY IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN OBVIOUSLY JOINTLY PLAN AND CONTROL.

SO IS HIS BASIC ANSWER WAS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

AND I BELIEVE THEY ALREADY STARTED THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR THE ENTRY ROAD WITHIN JASPER COUNTY.

SO THAT'S WHY. SO I GUESS WE COULD ACCEPT THAT.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION AT SECOND READING, WHICH WOULD BRING IN THAT LOT TWO, WHICH IS THE 5.164 ACRES.

SO MR. CZYMBOR BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNCIL, ARE YOU SATISFIED? BECAUSE THAT ANSWER SEEMS LIKE THAT REALLY WASN'T AN ANSWER.

I MEAN, WE CAN'T I MEAN, AS YOU KNOW, SOUTH CAROLINA, WE CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY.

SO I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WOULD COOPERATIVELY WE, YOU KNOW, EMBRACE ANNEXATIONS THAT WE BELIEVE ARE IN OUR BEST INTERESTS.

I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST SINCE THEY'RE DEVELOPING ALL AROUND IT.

BUT I CAN SEE HIS POINT.

POINT IS I'M REALLY NOT BUILDING ANYTHING ON IT.

AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO.

YOU KNOW, WE STARTED WITH JASPER COUNTY AND THEIR PROCESS COULD BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN OURS, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SLOW IT DOWN.

AND I CAN RESPECT THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND IT'S STILL CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

IF THEY WANT TO ANNEX IT, I WOULD ASSUME THEY COULD.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PROBABLY GIVE THEM A PASS, EVEN THOUGH, AGAIN, I DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER THAT THEY WANT TO ANNEX THIS OR NOT.

NO. NOT THAT, NOT THAT LOT ONE YEAH, I'M CONFUSED TOO.

THERE'S I THINK..

IT'S THE LOT TWO REMEMBER.

BUT, MR. MAYOR, I BROUGHT UP, I BROUGHT UP WHY DIDN'T THEY AREN'T WHY AREN'T THEY BRINGING ANNEXING THE WHOLE THING? AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT IT, BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE DESERVED AN ANSWER.

YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALL A LITTLE MUDDLED HERE.

PERHAPS I CAN HELP. SARAH ROBERTS..

I HOPE SO.

[INAUDIBLE] FOREMAN REPRESENTING AJA, LLC, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF LOT TWO, CP HARDEEVILLE OWNS LOT ONE, DIFFERENT OWNER.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANNEXING LOT TWO.

OKAY. LOT ONE DOES NOT WANT TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.

THEY ARE UNDER PERMITTING PROCESS WITH JASPER.

OR A RIGHT OF WAY ONLY.

OH, OKAY. SO LOT ONE IS SOMEBODY ELSE AND THEY DON'T WANT TO ANNEX IN.

LOT.. WE'RE TALKING TWO.

YEAH WAS YEAH. QUESTION WAS WHY ISN'T LOT ONE ALSO ANNEXING? RIGHT. WE'RE NOT A PARTY TO THIS TRANSACTION OKAY OKAY.

MAKES IT A LOT SIMPLER.

DOES THAT HELP? I IT'S IT'S A LOT CLEARER NOW.

THIS PRETEND LOT IS NOT EVEN THERE.

JUST PRETEND. YEAH, I GUESS MY AND I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT.

WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH CLARIUS.

AND TECHNICALLY. I MEAN, THE POINT IS, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT IT WOULD MAKE COMPLETE SENSE FOR THEM TO ANNEX THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T PART OF THIS REQUEST. IT'S DIRECTLY CONTIGUOUS TO BOTH OF THEIR PROPERTIES.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU KNOW, AGAIN, START THE PROCESS, WE CAN'T FORCE ANNEXATION.

SO THAT'S OKAY.

SO WHO OWNS LOT ONE? ALSO CLARIUS? CLARIUS, YES.

OKAY. SO CLARIUS WANTS TO ANNEX LOT TWO.

NO, THAT'S SOMEBODY ELSE.

AJA LLC IS YOUR APPLICANT THAT OWNS LOT TWO.

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OKAY. SAME OWNER THAT OWNS THE AGM PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH.

AJA OWNS BOTH OF THOSE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WE QUESTIONED THAT LAST TIME.

YEAH. SO.

OKAY. SO NEXT WHAT WE'LL DO IS MR. CARROLL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? NO, SIR, NOT I DON'T NOT NOW, I DON'T GUESS.

BUT LIKE, AS IT CAME UP LAST TIME, IT WAS A QUESTION BECAUSE IT WAS JUST LIKE IT WAS STICKING OUT AND AND THEN MIKE BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN TODAY.

BUT IF MIKE'S SATISFIED, I GUESS IT'S OKAY THEN.

MR. WHITE. NO QUESTIONS.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOT TWO, NOT LOT ONE.

AND WE APPRECIATE THE ATTITUDE OF LOT TWO THAT WE'RE HEARING THIS MORNING.

SO THAT'S VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MRS. GUZMAN. NO QUESTIONS SIR.

AND THANK YOU, MISS ROBINSON, FOR CLEARING IT UP.

AND I GUESS WE CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY TO ANNEX.

OKAY, SO NOW THAT IT'S TOTALLY CLEAR AS MUD, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

NO, IT SOUNDS A LOT CLEARER.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ANNEXATION OF LOT TWO? NOT TWO LOTS.

LOT TWO. OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE AND MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024-52-C.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2024-5-2C.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. OKAY.

THAT PROPERTY IS NOW ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

AND THE NEXT ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ALSO SECOND READING.

THIS AMENDS THE ZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL IN UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL IN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE. MR. CZYMBOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OTHER THAN WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION? SECOND READING, MR. MAYOR.

OKAY. MRS. GUZMAN. ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. MR. WHITE. NO QUESTIONS, MR. CARROLL. NO QUESTIONS.

I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS EITHER.

SO I WILL NOW OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC.

ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR ASK A QUESTION? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024-5-2D.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2024-5-2D.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. PLEASE CONVEY OUR CONGRATULATIONS AND ON LOT TWO.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS.

THIS IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND CHAPTER TWO, ADMINISTRATION OF THE HARDEEVILLE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY ESTABLISHING A HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.

THIS ITEM WAS TABLED FROM APRIL 18TH, 2024 CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND IT WAS FORWARDED TO THIS SPECIFIC DATE.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024-4-18 E.

MR. DAVIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON. LEAD US AWAY.

THANK YOU. GOOD TO BE HERE.

I WAS NOT HERE AT THE MEETING.

I WAS OUT OF TOWN WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, BUT I HAD EXPRESSED SOME THOUGHTS TO MR. CZYMBOR. I KNOW HE HAD.

HE HE TALKED TO YOU ALL ABOUT THEM, AND I THINK AND MISS SNOWDEN ALSO CAME UP AND MR. COURSEY. AND IT WAS TABLED TO THIS MEETING.

SO IN THE INTERVENING TIME, MR. SNOWDEN AND I DID MEET WITH MR. COURSEY AND HIS ADDITION.

IN ADDITION TO MEETING ALSO SEPARATELY WITH CITY ATTORNEY AS WELL, AND MISS SNOWDEN AND MYSELF.

IT IS STAFF'S POSITION THAT A HISTORICAL COMMISSION OR HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS NOT THE REALLY THE IDEAL THING FOR US TO DO AT THIS TIME. I PREPARED A MEMO THAT HOPEFULLY YOU ALL LOOKED THROUGH EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN I SENT IT TO YOU, BUT AND I WON'T GO THROUGH THAT IN DETAIL, BUT I'LL JUST SAY THAT

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YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW ALSO LOOKING AT WHAT YOU ALL HAD TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING, WE FELT THAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE WAS PREPARED WAS NOT REALLY THE DIRECTION THAT YOU WERE INTENDING IT TO GO.

SO WE ARE JUST SUGGESTING THAT YOU KNOW, WE SUPPORT THE CREATION OF A HISTORICAL COMMISSION, HISTORICAL SOCIETY THAT THE CITY CAN SUPPORT, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE AT THE GRASSROOTS EFFORT, YOU KNOW, BY THE OTHER CITIZENS.

BUT THERE'S MANY THINGS WE CAN DO TO PARTICIPATE AND HELP, WHETHER IT BE MEETING SPACE, WE CAN USE OUR SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET THE WORD OUT AND, AND DRUM, DRUM UP MORE INTEREST.

I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS ONE IN THE PAST AND IT KIND OF DIED OUT FOR LACK OF INTEREST.

AND YOU KNOW HOW THOSE THINGS GO.

BUT WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER MECHANISM NOW TO GET THAT WORD OUT AND ATTRACT PEOPLE TO TELL HARDEEVILLE STORY, WHICH IS REALLY SOMETHING.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PHYSICAL RESOURCES TO PRESERVE, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF ORAL HISTORY AND TRADITION AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT NEED TO BE ARCHIVED AND TOLD AND DISPLAYED OVER TIME.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE WORK OF A HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

AND THAT'S THE THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE WOULD GO.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF ARTIFACTS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, SOME ARE ON DISPLAY.

MANY ARE IN STORAGE RIGHT NOW HERE IN THE CITY.

MS. DECOURSEY, AS I NOTED, SHE'S GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO HELP CATALOG AND ARCHIVE ALL THAT.

BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE WAY TO GO.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, EVEN SO, WAS LIKE, IF YOU RECALL, DURING THE CONVERSATIONS FOR THE CAR TRACK, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THAT PLANE CRASH SITE.

THERE'S A STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE IS NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN PEOPLE GOING OUT TO THAT SITE.

IT'S AN OLD SWAMP, IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY SAFE.

BUT CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE VETERANS.

IT WAS A MILITARY PLANE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE CREATING A MEMORIAL PARK.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE TO HAVE DISPLAYS AND HONOR THAT AND TELL THAT STORY, YOU KNOW.

SO AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING WE CAN DO IN CONJUNCTION WITH A HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS OUR POSITION.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. MATT. I'M GOING TO DEPART FROM NORM AND ASK OR INVITE MS. DECOURSEY TO COME FORWARD AND OFFER YOUR YOUR COMMENTS, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DID, YOU DID MEET WITH STAFF SEVERAL DAYS AGO, SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR POSITION ON THIS.

FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH THEM I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD BE A HISTORIC COMMISSION, WOULD NEED ANOTHER POSITION.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

BUT THIS IS A START.

I HOPE THAT WE KEEP OUR EYES ON THE GOAL OF HAVING A HISTORIC COMMISSION SO THAT WE ARE SURE THAT THESE HISTORICAL SPOTS ARE PROTECTED.

I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY REFERS TO SHPO.

SHPO JUST LOOKS AT THE OVERALL ELIGIBILITY OF THE SITE AS FAR AS THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER.

THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WANT THAT ARE IN YOUR CITY LIMITS PROTECTED? DOES IT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A NATIONAL REGISTER ELIGIBLE? SO THIS IS A START.

I'M HAPPY TO HELP OUT WITH THE ARTIFACTS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE TO SEE WHERE IT CAN GO.

AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE INTERESTED.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

MRS. GUZMAN.

YOU WANT TO LEAD OFF THE QUESTIONING? ACTUALLY, UN.

WELL, I JUST MAYBE HAVE A QUESTION FOR BRENNA AND KATIE.

I GUESS WHEN THESE DEVELOPERS COME UP TO.

THEY BRING A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INTO THE CITY.

IS IT A REQUIREMENT? AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT FOR A CULTURAL SURVEY AND ARCHEOLOGICAL SURVEY? THEY DO THAT. IT AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT THIS WEEK WITH IN OUR MEETING WITH STAFF.

THAT DOCUMENT THAT IS PROVIDED IS FOR OUR PURPOSES AND ALSO CANNOT BE PUT OUT THERE.

RIGHT. ENTIRE DOCUMENT.

RIGHT. WE RELY ON THOSE CONSULTANTS.

USUALLY IT'S DONE BY A CONSULTING FIRM THAT HAVE THOSE CREDENTIALS AND THOSE THE BACKGROUND TO NOT ONLY ARCHEOLOGICAL BUT HISTORICAL AND WORK WITH SHPO.

SO WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES, WE MAKE SURE THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT, AS WE'RE GIVING OUR REVIEW BEFORE IT COMES TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN PROTECTED, IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AND IT IS TAKING CARE OF UNDER THE RESTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE THAT WITHIN THOSE ORDINANCES.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING WITH EACH DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE, THESE ARCHEOLOGICAL AND CULTURAL THINGS ARE.

SO IF WHEN THEY ARE BRINGING SOMETHING TO US, IF IT'S ALREADY DONE, THEN WE KNOW RIGHT OFF THE BAT THIS IS WHAT'S THERE.

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IT'S PART IT'S PART OF OUR PACKAGE.

IT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE, OKAY? IT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE.

WHEN THEY COME IN TO DO A PD MASTER PLAN.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. WHITE. MY, MY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS MATT AND OUR HISTORICAL FOLKS THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE A WIN WIN HERE, THAT THIS IS, TO ME, AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS THAT WE GET STARTED, WE MAKE THE FOLKS FEEL WELCOME. AND THIS IS THE FIRST STEP ON A JOURNEY.

SO WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GETTING STIFF ARMED OR, YOU KNOW IT'S OUR HISTORY.

WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT THAT ARE NOT REALLY WHAT WE REFLECT, BUT WE'RE IN THIS TOGETHER.

WE WANT TO SAY TO YOU AND TO YOU, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN A PROCESS, AND WE HAVE TIME TO BUILD.

WE HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT OTHER RESOURCES.

BUT LET'S PUT A STAKE IN THE GROUND THAT WE LIKE THIS IDEA.

WE'RE FOR IT. WE WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WILL BE HAPPENING, BUT WE'RE IT'S A BIG WORLD, AND WE WELCOME THE PARTICIPATION HERE AND THE HISTORICAL SITUATION OF OUR REGION AND OUR TOWN IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, AND WE NEED SOME OUTSIDE PROS, AND WE CERTAINLY NEED OUR STAFF TO BE ON BOARD AND THEIR INSIGHTS.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD GET INTO THAT COULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO DEVELOPMENT.

I'VE SEEN HISTORICAL SOCIETIES DO THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE WHEN I LIVED IN MARYLAND AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO I'M I'M ON BOARD FOR A START AND A WIN WIN AND MAKING YOU FOLKS FEEL WELCOME.

AND ALSO LISTENING TO THE INSIGHTS OF OUR STAFF AND BEGINNING THE JOURNEY.

NO STIFF ARMS. NO WAIT TILL LATER.

LET'S GET GOING.

IF I MAY, I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT POINT YOU MADE ABOUT EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS.

I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, THE LONG TERM GOAL, REALLY FOR THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE SHOULD PROBABLY BE TO BECOME A CLG, A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A ESTABLISHED HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION, AND YOU KNOW YOU DO THESE THINGS.

BUT THAT'S A PROCESS.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND THAT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS.

IT'S A LONG TIME TO GET THERE.

BUT ALMOST EVERYONE IN AMERICA STARTED THE SAME WAY.

THEY STARTED AT A GRASSROOTS LEVEL OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AND THEY BUILT TO THAT.

BUT THAT SHOULD BE A GOAL OF OURS.

AND I FULLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF WOULD FULLY SUPPORT THAT, BUT WE'RE JUST NOT AT THAT POINT YET.

WE'RE AT STEP ONE, AND WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS TO FOLLOW.

BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT FIRST STEP, RIGHT? MR. CARROLL.

I PRETTY WELL ECHO WHAT BO SAID.

AND I THINK YOU AND I WERE TALKING NOT LONG AGO ABOUT THIS IS KIND OF SYNONYMOUS WITH THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.

VERY SIMILAR HAD STARTED WAS VOLUNTEERS AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD ORGANIZATION.

HARRY CAN TELL YOU THEY DID A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.

AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD ABOUT THEM.

AND AND SO AND I THINK WITH YOU BEING INVOLVED AND I THINK IT WOULD BE CAN BE A GOOD THING.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS.

THE FIRST OF ALL, WHAT WE'RE PASSING IS WHAT'S IN THE PACKET, NOT YOUR MEMORANDUM.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS IS AN ORDINANCE.

WELL, WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU NOT TAKE ANY ACTION ON THAT THAT ORDINANCE.

OH, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS DON'T DO IT AND JUST ESTABLISH A, A THIS.

WELL, BASICALLY I'M FROM YEAH.

FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. AND AGAIN THIS IS JUST ME SPEAKING IS THAT WE JUST WE PLEDGE THE CITY'S SUPPORT TO SUPPORT A HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

MRS. MAINS, IS THAT APPROPRIATE? RIGHT. SO THIS ORDINANCE HAD TO BE ON THIS AGENDA BECAUSE YOU TABLED IT.

RIGHT. SO I THINK WHAT THE DEPUTY MANAGER IS JUST TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THE RECOMMENDATION IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ORDINANCE, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO SO YOU'LL EITHER VOTE TO DISAPPROVE IT OR VOTE TO REMOVE THE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN AT SOME, SOME LATER TIME, IF ANOTHER ACTION IS NEEDED FOR THE SOCIETY TO PLEDGE MORE FUNDS, WE'LL BRING THAT BEFORE YOU.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE AN OFFICIAL RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE ACTION IF YOU'RE GOING WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY ESTABLISHMENT.

WELL, WE WOULD, BECAUSE IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

HAVE TO VOTE IT DOWN.

YEAH. SO YOU COULD EITHER YEAH, YOU COULD VOTE IT DOWN OR MAKE A VOTE TO TO JUST REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA ALTOGETHER.

OKAY. THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT PRIOR TO YOUR MEMORANDUM, WHEN I WAS READING THE ORDINANCE WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED WERE 5 SEATS, RIGHT.

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IS THAT STILL THE INTENTION TO HAVE OR IS IT JUST WHOEVER WANTS TO BE PART OF IT? I THINK AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN GET INVOLVED, IT'S A SOCIETY.

IT'S A VOLUNTEER GROUP, AND ANYONE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD WELCOME ANYBODY.

BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMISSION AND IT'S BASICALLY ANOTHER LEVEL OF LAND USE REGULATION, RIGHT? AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

SO THIS IS JUST A VOLUNTEER GROUP.

SO THE MORE THE MERRIER AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

ALL RIGHT, THE OTHER NOTE THAT I MADE WAS IN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, THE SOCIETY, WHATEVER WAS CALLED FOR 5 PEOPLE WHO LIVED WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF HARDEEVILLE.

AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS THAT THIS BE EXPANDED TO BE OF THE 5 SEATS, ONE FROM JASPER COUNTY AND ONE FROM UNINCORPORATED HARDEEVILLE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE HARDEEVILLE ZIP CODE BUT ARE NOT.

THEY'RE UNINCORPORATED JASPER COUNTY.

SO MY SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL IS TO EXPAND THIS AND NOT LIMIT IT TO JUST CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.

IT WAS NEVER THE INTENT WITH THE SOCIETY.

THAT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS, MR. MAYOR? WE'RE GOING TO REMOVE IT.

THEN SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

WELL, WE COULD IF I READ MRS. MAINS PROPERLY, WE CAN REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.

AND THEN WE DON'T NEED A VOTE ON THIS HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

WE DON'T. RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.

THE CREATION OF THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE ESTABLISHED BY AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION OF THE CITY, I THINK.

WHAT WHAT THE DEPUTY MANAGER IS SAYING IS THAT THEY, THE CITY WILL JUST KIND OF ASSIST THIS.

THEY'LL PROVIDE MEETING SPACE AND IT WILL BE, BUT IT WILL BE A SEPARATE ORGANIZATION, NOT A CITY SANCTIONED ORGANIZATION.

SO MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT IS WITHOUT SOME SORT OF VOTE OR WHAT COMMITS THE CITY'S RESOURCES TO THIS ACTION.

IN OTHER WORDS.

WHAT? YOU KNOW, THERE'S.

THERE'S NO COMMITMENT WITHOUT A VOTE THAT THE CITY WILL WILL SUPPORT IT.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S I THINK SO I THINK AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE OF THIS CLUB, THE KIWANIS CLUB.

I THINK IT WAS THAT CAME TO YOU.

I THINK WHAT WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THE SOCIETY NEEDS TO BE FORMED.

AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE AN ACTION TO PLEDGE RESOURCES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT SOCIETY YET.

SO I THINK THE FIRST STEP IS THEY HAVE TO MAKE THAT SOCIETY.

THEY HAVE TO GET SOME MEMBERS AND THEN YOU CAN PLEDGE TO THAT SOCIETY.

IT JUST DOESN'T EXIST YET.

SO IT'S JUST IT'S AN ACTION YOU'LL TAKE AT A LATER TIME FOR THAT.

FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSES, YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION ON THIS ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY. SO I, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT FOR THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, BUT FOR THE FUTURE, THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT THE CITY IS ENDORSING THIS AND IF NECESSARY, COMMIT RESOURCES.

YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAID MEETING SPACE, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.

SO FIRST, GET IT, GET IT ORGANIZED AND THEN COME BACK.

AND I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON ONE OTHER POINT WITH THE JOHN SAID, AND IT'S BEEN SOMETHING I'VE ALWAYS FELT IF THIS IS DONE, LIKE THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY THAT WAS IN PLACE FOR, WHAT WAS IT, 40 YEARS, JOHN.

AND THEY HAD BAKE SALES.

THEY LITTLE BY LITTLE THEY, THEY ACCUMULATED A POT OF MONEY.

SO WHEN THE, THE THE LIBRARY WAS FINALLY BUILT, THERE WAS THIS POT OF MONEY THAT THEY GAVE TO THE LIBRARY FOR VARIOUS ITEMS. WHAT I HOPE TO SEE IS THAT THIS GROUP TAKES A SIMILAR POSITION BECAUSE I STILL FEEL FOR THE LONG TERM SURVIVAL OF THIS GROUP THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE A MUSEUM, WHETHER IT BE OLD CITY HALL, WHATEVER THAT WE HAVE A MUSEUM.

SO ALL THESE ARTIFACTS, ALL THIS HISTORY GOES INTO ONE PLACE I LOVE I LIKE OLD CITY HALL BECAUSE, YOU

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KNOW, HISTORY IS THERE.

THE ENGINE'S THERE, AND WE'RE PUTTING THE MEMORIAL PLAQUE THERE.

IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD LOCATION FOR IT, BUT AT ANY RATE THAT'S IT.

OKAY. SO WHAT WE NEED AT THIS POINT IS DO DO I NEED TO OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO A PUBLIC HEARING.

YES, SIR. TO TO CLOSE THE ITEM OUT.

OKAY. AND THEN WE VOTE TO TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA.

YEAH. I THINK I THINK THE CLEANEST WAY TO DO IT IS JUST DO A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THE ORDINANCE.

THAT WAY IT'S NOT SEEN AS A BECAUSE THE ONE PERSON WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM THAT WE'VE ALREADY INVITED.

SO I'D LIKE A MOTION TO WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S NOT FAIR.

DOES ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS? OKAY? SURE.

THANK YOU. IF WE REMOVE THIS TODAY, WHICH ARE WE GOING TO DO? AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IS IT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN SAY SOMETHING IN THE MOTION AND MAYBE WE CAN'T MATT I DON'T KNOW.

PRINA TO MAKE SURE, SO SOMETHING LIKE OF OF THIS NATURE WILL COME UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.

SUCH AS LIKE HARRY SAID, WITH THE ROOM OR SOMETHING.

BECAUSE WHEN I'M AFRAID OF IF WE DO THIS TODAY, THEN THAT'S IT.

AND I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

I WANT IT TO COME BACK UP.

SO IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN DO THIS IN A MOTION TO SAY, WE GOING TO DO WE GOING TO DISAPPROVE THIS OR WHATEVER, BUT SAY IN A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING COME UP THAT WE CAN DEDICATE A ROOM OR SOMETHING TO GET IT GOING.

HOW WOULD I DO THAT PRINA OR BARRY OR WHATEVER? MIKE, I CAN TELL.

SO YEAH, JOHN, I THINK YOU ANSWERED YOUR OWN QUESTION.

SO IT'D BE A MOTION TO DENY THAT ORDINANCE.

BUT YOU WOULD SAY WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE A GROUP OF RESIDENTS, INTERESTED RESIDENTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A FORMING A HISTORICAL SOCIETY IN WHICH THE CITY COUNCIL, AT A FUTURE TIME, WOULD PASS A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE ORGANIZATION'S WORK AND DIRECTING. AND I'M JUST I'M I'M PARAPHRASING NOW.

DIRECTING, DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE ALL REMEMBER ALL THIS.

IT'S GETTING IT'S GETTING RECORDED.

SO YEAH. DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE ALL THE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE HISTORICAL.

WHAT HE SAID. WHAT HE SAID.

ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MOTION.

OKAY. MR. WHITE, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? I DO HAVE SOMETHING.

WOULD YOU MIND JUST.

YOU SAID HERE YOU'VE HEARD US TALK A LOT.

COULD WE JUST GET YOUR LAST PIECE OF INPUT AS TO OUR DISCUSSION? GOOD TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AFTER YOU'VE HEARD WHAT WE'VE HAD TO SAY.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD.

IT'S IT'S GOING TO TAKE BABY STEPS TO GET TO THE THE SPOT.

BUT AS LONG AS THE CITY IS GOING TO SUPPORT IT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A MUSEUM THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, EXCUSE ME, CAN TAKE THAT ROLE. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD STEP.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE DON'T WANT I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED.

OH NO. IT'S JUST MORE EVOLUTIONARY AND ANOTHER WAY TO SKIN THE CAT HERE, SO TO SPEAK.

YEAH. AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE FIRST STEP.

GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU.

OKAY THEN I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION.

IS THERE A MOTION TO REMOVE THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA WITH ALL THE PROVISOS AS OUTLINED BY MR. CZYMBOR? POINT OF ORDER, MAYOR.

IT WOULD BE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THE ORDINANCE.

MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THE ORDER? YES, SIR. OKAY.

SO ANYONE'S IN FAVOR OF THIS CONVERSATION? I'D LIKE A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE THIS ORDINANCE.

MR. MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DISAPPROVE OR ORDINANCE 2024-4-18 E.

IT'S A? OKAY. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A MAYOR.

ROBIN SAID. A, RIGHT? YEAH. 18 A.

WITH THE PROVISO THAT THE CITY CONTINUED TO SUPPORT THIS.

AND THE CITY MANAGER BRING IT UP IN A, IN A IN THE NEAR FUTURE AGAIN, THE PROVIDE A ROOM OR SOMETHING TO GET IT

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ESTABLISHED. IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH, MA'AM, I WANT TO.

OKAY. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. IT OUTLINES YOUR ATTENTION.

THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. OKAY.

I HATE TO DO THIS, BUT MR. WHITE, WILL YOU TAKE THE GAVEL? I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

YES, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO GIVE THAT 50% RAISE TO EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE AND MYSELF.

NO, I THINK FACETIOUS AS USUAL.

EXCEPT TO YOU.

LEAVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUTS.

AND THANK YOU, MATT AND THE STAFF.

GOOD WORK. IT WAS..

BRIAN, THANK YOU.

OKAY, WHERE ARE WE? WHAT'S GOING TO THE FIRST READING OF THE BUDGET? YES. FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA IS ESTABLISH AN ANNUAL BUDGET, WHICH INCLUDES REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES FOR THE CITY.

HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024-25.

TO SET THE MILLAGE RATE TO ESTABLISH A 5 YEAR CAPITAL BUDGET ENVIRONMENT, EXCUSE ME, IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND TO AUTHORIZE A COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR THE CITY EMPLOYEES AT THIS TIME.

I'D LIKE TO I KNOW THAT'S NOT MIKE, BUT I WILL RECOGNIZE MIKE AND THEN I'LL LET YOU TAKE.

THANK YOU. NEXT STEP.

THANK YOU, MR. WHITE.

APPRECIATE IT.

NO, JUST A FEW VERY QUICK COMMENTS.

I THINK THE COUNCIL KNOWS, AND I DID WE DID GO INTO GREAT DETAIL.

THIS IS THIS IS MY NINTH BUDGET OR OUR NINTH BUDGET PREPARING.

AND I THINK WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE DOCUMENT EVERY YEAR.

THE PROCESS AND THE TRANSPARENCY OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THE CITY PROPOSES ITS FINANCIAL PLAN.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

I DID WANT TO THANK, AS I DID ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, MR. JOHN, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND THE STAFF AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW PREPARATION THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

THE COUNCIL DOES KNOW WE HAD SEVERAL BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

AND SO IT WAS A VERY COLLABORATIVE PROCESS BETWEEN THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF.

AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET AT FIRST READING.

AND MR. JOHN CAN DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW.

AND IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY, IT'S NOT A TON OF SLIDES.

IT'S ONLY FOUR. THAT'S OKAY.

WELL WE'LL SEE. CUTTING BACK ON THAT PAPER.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS OBVIOUSLY A COVER SHEET.

THE SECOND ONE IS MR. CZYMBOR, AS USUAL, KIND OF TAKES A LOT OF THE THUNDER OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE HAVE OVER.

WE STARTED THIS PROCESS LAST DAY OF JANUARY.

WE'VE HAD THREE WORKSHOPS WITH THE COUNCIL.

WE HAVE THREE BOXES LEFT TO CHECK TONIGHT.

WE HOPE TO CHECK THE APPROVAL AT FIRST READING BUTTON.

BUTTON. THE NEXT SLIDE IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT WE THE UPDATE IS THAT AT OUR MAY 1ST BUDGET WORKSHOP, COUNCIL INSTRUCTED STAFF TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE BY ONE MILL AND, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, INCREASE COUNCIL SALARIES BY $1,000 EACH.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE REDUCED THE JASPER COUNTY MILLAGE FROM 96 TO 95 AS PER THE INSTRUCTION.

AND THEN THE MATH FOR BEAUFORT COUNTY TOOK IT FROM 102.0 TO 100.9.

SO HAVING DONE ALL THAT, THE BALANCE, THE BUDGET IS BALANCED AND IT INCREASED.

THE BUDGET INCREASED BY $2,785, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY THE THE CHANGE TO THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS AND TAXES FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THE REVENUE PIECE OF THAT WAS WE WENT AND ASSESSED OUR REVENUES AND EXPENSES AND EVERYTHING LOOKED LIKE WE WERE IN GOOD SHAPE, PARTICULARLY OUR BUSINESS LICENSE REVENUE.

AND OUR BUILDING PERMITS ARE PROJECTING VERY STRONG THIS YEAR AND INTO NEXT YEAR.

SO WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT BY INCREASING BUSINESS LICENSE REVENUE BY $75,000 AND THEN BUILDING PERMITS BY $48,432. SO THAT GOT US THAT ACCOMPLISHED THE OBJECTIVE.

AND WE'RE, AS MR. SINCLAIR INDICATED, WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR APPROVAL AND FIRST READING.

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AND, OF COURSE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

MRS. GUZMAN. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING SUCH AN AWESOME JOB.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY GETTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER FOR THE CITY.

AND I KNOW IT TAKES TEAMWORK.

SO MR. BOYLE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND FOR MEETING ME AND HELPING ME UNDERSTAND ALL THE ALL THE LITTLE INS AND OUTS AND STAFF.

I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK DONE ON THIS, SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO WAS INVOLVED.

BUT I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. MR. WHITE. TO ECHO WHAT VAL JUST SAID, JOHN, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BUT I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING BETTER THAN THIS.

YOU'VE TAKEN US, IN MY OPINION, FROM THE SANDLOT TO THE BIG YARD, THE BIG LEAGUES IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, MAKING IT SO EVERYBODY GOT IT.

IT WAS EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

THERE WAS ENOUGH TIME TO CONTEMPLATE.

AND IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN.

HAPPEN EVERYWHERE.

AND SOMEONE JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR A GOOD JOB AND HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WERE DOING.

AND LOTS OF BACKUP.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MR. CARROLL. MR. MAYOR, JUST TO ECHO WHAT SAID AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID, MIKE I'VE BEEN THROUGH I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.

A LOT OF CITY MANAGERS ON BOTH ENDS OF THE AISLE, AND MIKE'S BY FAR THE BEST WITH PREPARING THE BUDGET.

AND THEN JOHN DUMBS IT DOWN FOR US.

SO BECAUSE I'M SOMETIMES IT GETS AND HE CAN DUMB IT DOWN SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND IT AND SO NO, I, KUDOS, MIKE.

SOMEBODY ONCE SAID THAT YOU PUT IT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM SHELF OR THE JACK, WHATEVER, AND THE TOP SHELF FOR THE GIRAFFES.

AND YOU'VE YOU'VE COVERED THAT WHOLE SPAN.

THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE THING TO SAY.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS MANY TIMES AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH IT.

WE HAD SOME HEATED DISCUSSIONS OR REGARDING THE MILLAGE.

AND AS COUNCIL KNOWS, THAT WAS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

AND SO I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR UNDERSTANDING WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME AND, AND ACCOMMODATING THAT.

AND I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT DECREASE IN, IN MILLAGE BY INCREASING THE ANTICIPATED REVENUES.

SO NOTHING WAS SACRIFICED BY US LOWERING THE MILLAGE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME REVENUES TO COVER THE DECREASE.

THAT'S GREAT. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS BUDGET ORDINANCE? SEEING NONE.

I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2024-5-16B.

MR. MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON FIRST READING THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-5-16B AS IN BOY, WHICH IS THE FIRST READING OF OUR 24-25 BUDGET.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. OKAY.

SECOND READING IS THE FIRST THURSDAY IN JUNE.

AND THAT WILL ADOPT THE BUDGET.

MR. MAYOR, I DIDN'T SAY AYE.

YOU SAID A VOICE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

OH. YOU DIDN'T? NO, SIR.

OKAY, SO WERE THERE THREE AYES? YES. AND ONE NAY.

ONE NAY.

OKAY. NOTE THAT ON THE RECORD.

OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA, TO PROVIDE

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MEDIA SERVICES, WHICH IS TOWN COUNCIL MEDIA MEETING AUDIO VIDEO RECORDING SERVICES STARTING JULY 1ST, 2024. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024-5-16 D.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL ADMINISTRATION.

SO THIS IS REALLY HOUSEKEEPING.

WE ALREADY PROVIDE MEDIA SERVICES TO THE TOWN OF RIDGELAND.

BUT OBVIOUSLY BASED ON INFLATION AND THE LENGTH OF THE CONTRACT IS JUST TIME TO INCREASE SOME OF THE PRICE ASSOCIATED TO THE SERVICES.

SO THIS IS WHEREAS THE CITY AND TOWN BOTH LOCATED WITHIN JASPER COUNTY, WHEREAS THE CITY HAS BEEN PROVIDING AUDIO VIDEO SERVICES TO THE TOWN.

AND WHEREAS THE TOWN RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF GOVERNMENT TRANSPARENCY AND WISHES TO CONTINUE FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE AUDIO VIDEO SERVICES.

THEREFORE, IN CONSIDERATION ON THE FOREGOING RECITALS, THE CITY AND TOWN AGREE AS FOLLOWS.

THE CITY SHALL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE AUDIO VIDEO SERVICES AT REGULARLY SCHEDULED TOWN COUNCIL MEETINGS, FOR A TOTAL OF 24 MEETINGS PER YEAR.

THE TOWN SHALL PAY THE CITY $9,348 FOR THE SERVICES.

FOR THE INITIAL TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, RENEWAL SHALL INCLUDE AN INCREASE NOT TO EXCEED THE ANNUAL CPI SOUTHERN URBAN INDEX ON A YEARLY BASIS.

THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENTS FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS UPON EXPIRATION OF THE 12 MONTH PERIOD, AGREEMENT SHALL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW.

EITHER PARTY MAY TERMINATE AFTER A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR.

EXECUTION BY PROVIDING AT LEAST 60 DAYS WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE OTHER PARTY FOR THE INTENT TO TERMINATE.

ALL RIGHTS, DUTIES AND OBLIGATIONS WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL THE DATE THE AGREEMENT TERMINATES.

IF THE TOWN WISHES TO HAVE AUDIO VIDEO SERVICES EXCEEDING THE 24 MEETINGS PER YEAR.

THE TOWN SHALL PAY AN AMOUNT OF $333 PER MEETING.

THE TOWN SHALL ALSO REIMBURSE THE CITY FOR TRAVEL COSTS AND THE CURRENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT APPROVED MILLAGE RATE.

SO AGAIN, HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

WE ALREADY PROVIDE THE SERVICES.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE TOWN OF RICHLAND.

THEY'VE ALREADY PUT THEIR PUT IT UPON THEIR COUNCIL.

THEY'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT THROUGH THEIR SIDE.

IT'S JUST OUR TIME TO SIGN IT.

SO. THANK YOU.

MR. CARROLL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, GOT THIS COOPERATION BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES, AND IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR OUR REGION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY OR CAPABILITY, I GUESS.

AND THE HARDEEVILLE CAN HELP THEM OUT.

THAT'S WONDERFUL.

MR. WHITE, I AGREE WITH YOUR STAFF.

WILL ELIZABETH AND JUST JESSE, BOTH OF THEM DO IT OR WHO DOES IT JAMES? SO WE HAVE A ROTATING BASIS.

SO YOU ROTATE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS REALLY ASKING.

SO WE DO IT'S IT'S REALLY MAKES MOST COMMON SENSE.

JUAN HAS VOLUNTEERED TO TAKE THAT PART ON SINCE HE LIVES IN THAT AREA.

SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE EVENINGS, ONCE HE FINISHES THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, HE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE ON TO HIS HOUSE.

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

DO YOU GO UP AT ALL PERIODICALLY? I'LL GO UP. YES.

GET THE BIG MAN UP THERE.

MISS GUZMAN.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF INTERCITY PARTICIPATION AND COOPERATION.

I THINK THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO SHOW HOW TWO CITIES CAN WORK TOGETHER AND YOU KNOW, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF EVERYBODY.

SO MR. KIMBRELL, KUDOS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.

THE TEAM MOSTLY.

YES. THANK YOU.

SHARED SERVICES.

WHAT A CONCEPT.

YEAH. REVOLUTIONARY.

OKAY. I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC.

DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS ARRANGEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF RIDGELAND? OKAY SEEING NONE.

I LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024.

- 5 - 16 D.

YOU GOT, JOHN? MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

RESOLUTION 2024-5-16D.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OF THE PUBLIC.

SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. OKAY.

THE LAST RESOLUTION OF THE AFTERNOON IS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, TO ENTER INTO AN AUTOMATIC AID FIGHTER FIRE FIGHTING AGREEMENT BETWEEN BLUFFTON TOWNSHIP FIRE DISTRICT AND THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE.

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THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024-5-16 E.

HI, CHIEF. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS THE BASICALLY IDENTICAL AGREEMENT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE.

WE WERE JUST RE-UPPING IT.

THEY DO, THEY'RE REQUIRED IN THEIR ACCREDITATION TO RE-UP THEIRS EVERY TWO YEARS.

I BELIEVE IT IS, SO IT'S JUST A RE-UP OF THAT SAME AGREEMENT.

AND THE ONE THING WE DID, WE DID REMOVE ONE THING IN THE AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES WITH ENTRAPMENTS THAT THEY WOULD RESPOND BACK FORTH.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE TOOK OUT. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S THE SAME COVERAGE AREA, WHICH IS THE SUN CITY AREA, THE 170 AREA, AND A LITTLE BIT UP 278.

SO SAME THING, AND THEN WE GO INTO SUN CITY AND THEN THE 170 AREA FOR THEM AS WELL.

SO BASICALLY THE SAME AGREEMENT JUST REMOVING THE MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES FROM IT.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MRS. GUZMAN. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. NO QUESTIONS.

MR. WHITE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION STEVE.

THAT'S A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU.

MR. CARROLL. WHY DID YOU TAKE THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OUT? ANY REASON OR BLUFFTON REQUESTED IT, SIR.

BLUFFTON REQUESTED WE REMOVE IT.

OKAY. NOT SURE WHY HE DIDN'T REALLY GIVE AN EXPLANATION, HE JUST ASKED TO REMOVE IT.

OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THEY DON'T WANT OUR HELP THEN? IT'S ALL COVERED UNDER MUTUAL AID, THOUGH, IF WE EVER NEED THEM, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CALL FOR THEM AND THEY COME.

YEAH, JUST THE AUDIT.

WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE AUTOMATIC SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

GOTCHA. OKAY. OKAY, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

AT THIS TIME WITH THE PUBLIC, LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS.

SEEING NONE. I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024-5-16 E.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 2024-05-16D.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? E, MINE SAYS D, BUT E YOU'RE RIGHT.

EXCUSE ME. THANK YOU.

YEAH. E IT IS.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE'RE READY.

WELL, THIS WAS D WITH THE..

OH, WITH THE LAST.

THIS WOULD BE E. THIS WOULD BE.

NO. ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA.

WELL, I'LL GET WITH THE CLERK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE DOCUMENTS ARE LABELED CORRECTLY.

JUST WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION DO IT BASED OFF OF THE TITLE AND WE'LL FIX THE NUMBERING.

OKAY. READING RIGHT HERE, I SEE WHAT HE THINKS.

OKAY. YEAH.

YEAH. OKAY.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO, FOR THE MOMENT, LEAVE LETTERS OUT OF IT.

THAT'S GOOD. OKAY.

SO DO WE GET A MOTION? WE GOT A MOTION.

WE NEED A SECOND.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OF THE PUBLIC SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. THANK YOU AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THANK YOU.

MR. CZYMBOR MANAGER'S REPORT.

YES, SIR. THREE QUICK THINGS.

SO WE WILL BE HAVING A FUTURE, A FUTURE COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS THAT WE'VE TALKED TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT.

AND THE FIRST ONE WILL BE THE 278 CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE DEVELOPERS ALONG THAT ROUTE TO COORDINATE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD, AS WELL AS THE THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT FOR THE OLD CITY HALL AS WELL AS THE MAIN STREET PROPERTIES.

SO THAT WILL PUT THAT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.

MR. DAVIS IS GOING, I GUESS HIS FIELDING A LOT OF QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, I'LL JUST SAY SOME DISCONTENT ABOUT THE STATUS OF SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

SO HE'S GOING TO TRY TO GET THE WORD OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE CITY'S PROGRESS WITH EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS.

SO HE'LL BE DOING THAT RELATIVELY SOON THIS WEEK.

AND THEN JUST HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY, HAPPY AND SAFE MEMORIAL DAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

LET'S START WITH MR. CARROLL. OKAY.

MR. MAYOR HOPEFULLY, I KNOW I SAW JEN LEAVE, BUT I DO WANT TO PUT A SHOUT OUT FOR THE FISHING RODEO.

HOPEFULLY WE WON'T HAVE TO CANCEL IT.

HOPEFULLY. THE WEATHER PERMITTING, WE'LL HAVE IT, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE ABSOLUTE TOP EVENTS FOR THE CITY EVERY YEAR.

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AND THE CHILDREN LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

AND SOMETIMES THAT'S THE ONLY CHANCE THEY GET TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP DOING IT.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S LCOG MEETING WILL BE NEXT THURSDAY, WHICH IS THE 23RD.

OTHER THAN THAT, MR. MAYOR, THAT'S THAT'S IT FOR ME.

OKAY. MRS. GUZMAN.

LAST WEEK WE ATTENDED THE VOLUNTEERS IN MEDICINE SOIRÉE, AND IT WAS A GREAT EVENT TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING HELPED BY THIS ORGANIZATION.

IT WAS A GREAT THING.

AND IT WAS I HOPE THEY RAISED A LOT OF MONEY.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY WORTHWHILE SEEING PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE WITH VERY DANGEROUS DISEASES, NOT HAVING ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE NOW ABLE TO ACCESS THE HEALTH CARE AND GET TAKEN CARE OF.

SO I THINK THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD GET MORE SUPPORT THAN THEY ARE GETTING RIGHT NOW.

SO THAT'S ALL.

MR. WHITE JUST BEEN WORKING ON SOME INTERNAL ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS PART OF THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL I KNOW THAT WE'RE WE STARTED WORK ON THE OLD CITY HALL, AND IN TALKING TO SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS MR. CZYMBOR, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BUILDING, UNLESS ALL ELSE FAILS, STAYS STAYS INTACT.

UNDERSTAND IT HAS A LOT OF WORK INSIDE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, NO DECISION THAT BE MADE UNLESS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.

IS THAT CORRECT, MR. MAYOR? OKAY, I JUST WANT TO DO THE ASSESSMENT.

BASICALLY, I WILL SAY NOT DECONSTRUCTING, BUT BASICALLY DOING AN INTENSE EVALUATION OF THE EXISTING CONDITION.

AND I GOT TO ADMIT, MR. BROWN WAS OUT THERE.

HE WAS ALL PART OF THE CREW, MAN.

HE HE TOOK THE LEAD AND HE WAS SWINGING HAMMERS AND DOING ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, MR. TOOL TIME EVENT THING.

SO HE DID A FINE JOB AND ESPECIALLY ALL ALL HIS DEPARTMENT STAFF.

SO GOOD JOB JB.

STILL GOT THAT HARD HAT HUH? YEAH. AND THE OTHER THING IS JNC, ONE OF OUR FAVORITE TOPICS.

COULD WE GET A A REPORT? MR. CZYMBOR TO COUNCIL ON EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN DONE.

HAVE THEY COMPLIED? JUST A STATUS REPORT ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM.

THE I WOULD JUST POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT ROYAL LIVE OAKS ACADEMY GRADUATION IS THE 30TH OF THIS MONTH.

THAT'S I THINK IT'S 6:00.

I THINK I FORWARDED I TOLD MR. MORSE TO THE SUPERINTENDENT TO FORWARD YOU AN INVITATION ON THAT.

THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT UP IN OUR RETREAT, AND WE'RE STARTING TO GET DOWN THERE, WE MAY HAVE TO DO THIS AT SOME MONTHS IN ADVANCE.

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT RENTING ROOMS IN THESE GATED COMMUNITIES, SO THAT WE COULD USE THAT FORUM TO GIVE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.

AND ONE OF WHICH WOULD BE TO DO THIS PROBABLY AROUND SEPTEMBER 1ST OF OCTOBER, SO THAT WHATEVER CANDIDATES, CITY AND COUNTY THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC REGARDING THEIR POSITIONS.

AND I WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE SOMEONE FOLLOW UP AND MAKE SURE WE WE GO AHEAD WITH THAT.

IS THAT COUNCIL? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU STILL WANT TO DO? IT WOULD IT WOULD COST A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS TO RENT THESE ROOMS. AND AND HOLD AN INFORMATION FORUM.

CAN'T DO POLITICS, BUT WE CAN GIVE INFORMATION.

OKAY. MY TAKE ON IT WOULD BE GET THE INPUT FROM THE CANDIDATES.

WHETHER THEY WANT TO DO THAT OR NOT IS MY VIEW.

NOT THAT THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP, BUT MAKE SURE THEY WANT TO DO THIS.

WELL, GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY.

YEAH. AND THE.

WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TO SET IT UP, THOUGH, THAT THEY'RE A NO SHOW IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

I WOULD THINK THERE'D BE CONSENSUS TO DO IT OR NOT TO DO IT.

BUT IF YOU'RE HAVING A ROOM AND YOU'RE A CANDIDATE AND YOU DON'T SHOW UP BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT PART OF THAT THOUGHT, THEN THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN TO ME.

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JUST A THOUGHT.

NOT JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CANDIDATES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE, BECAUSE THIS IS IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CANDIDATE FORUM.

THIS IS A FORUM FOR GIVING INFORMATION SO THAT IT STAYS WITHIN THE RULES OF THESE GATED COMMUNITIES.

OKAY, SO I THINK WE NEED TO PURSUE THAT.

WHETHER WE NEED TO GET A CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE STILL WANT TO DO, BECAUSE I WOULD ASSUME THESE THESE ROOM RENT RENTALS HAVE TO GET DONE A FEW MONTHS IN ADVANCE.

I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE COASTAL CAROLINA HOSPITAL.

AND THEY HAD A RIBBON CUTTING THE OTHER DAY.

THEIR OPENED THEIR FOURTH OPERATING ROOM, AND AGAIN, I WENT TO THE VIM DINNER AS WELL. THE THIS PAST LAST WEEK, THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND THE MEDIA AND MYSELF, WE MADE 5 STOPS TO DISTRIBUTE PERSONAL HYGIENE PRODUCTS TO THREE SCHOOLS RIDGELAND, HARDEEVILLE AND ROYAL LIVE OAKS, AND ALSO TO AGAPE AND PASTOR YOUNG IS HERE AND ALSO TO MERCY MISSION.

SO I WANT TO THANK THE YOUTH COUNCIL AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON ON THIS GREAT PUBLIC SERVICE THAT THEY PROVIDED.

ALSO LAST WEEK, HARDEEVILLE HIGH SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL HAD A OPENING OF THEIR NEWLY REFURBISHED TENNIS COURTS.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WILL BE ADDING A BOYS AND GIRLS TENNIS TEAM TO TO THE HIGH SCHOOL.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO OUR ONE OF OUR PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, MR. STEVE TALBERT, WHO TURNED 80 A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON A THRILLING WIN AT THE BATTLE OF THE BADGES. YOU AIN'T HEARD THE LAST OF THAT YET.

TRUE. I'M SURPRISED WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING TONIGHT.

SO THAT'S THE END OF MY REPORT.

MR. MAYOR? YES, YES.

I'M ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE.

THE MAYOR HAD MADE A COMMENT ABOUT OLD CITY HALL AND IT NOT BEING ANYMORE, WHATEVER DESTRUCTION OR WHATEVER, UNLESS IT WAS THIS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE TO SAVE IT.

BUT IF I COULD REQUEST MY I DON'T EXACTLY HOW YOU WOULD DO IT, BUT MAYBE GET JAMES OR LIZ OR SOMETHING TO DO A SOME TYPE OF NEWS BLAST OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE CITIZENS RIDING BY AND THEY SEE THAT DUMPSTER OUT FRONT.

AND ONCE BEFORE, YEARS AGO, WHEN WE DID THE HAYWOOD HOUSE, I MEAN, WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.

WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD.

BUT THE PUBLIC WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE SOME OF THEM, THAT WE DIDN'T DO EVERYTHING WE COULD.

SO IF YOU COULD GET SOMEBODY JUST AND NOT JUST ONLINE, PLEASE DO IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO IT, JAMES, BUT SOMEHOW LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT WHY THAT DUMPSTERS OUT FRONT.

GET SHELLY INVOLVED.

OH, AND BO HAD MENTIONED ABOUT GETTING SHELLY INVOLVED OR SOMETHING, BUT A STORY ABOUT.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE RIDE BY THE OLD CITIZENS AND THEY'VE HAD THAT BUILDING'S BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT ALMOST ABOUT SIX DECADES, AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO SOME OF THE OLDER FOLKS.

AND HARRY HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER.

THANK YOU SIR. OKAY.

NOW, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.

THE MOTION, SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. GOOD NIGHT, EVERYONE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.