Feb 01, 2024 City Council Meeting

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC?

WE HAVE A SECOND.

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SEEING NONE CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY HI.

HI HI HI.

I FORGOT TO MENTION, BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT, ORDINANCE.

MR. MEERSMAN IS AWAY.

TOOK A LITTLE VACATION.

HE HAD TO GO BECAUSE HE WENT TO VISIT, THE GROUNDHOG TODAY.

AND, WE'RE HOPING COUNCILMAN CARROLL DOES JOIN US.

HIS WIFE FRACTURED HER PELVIS, AND, HE'S AT THE ORTHOPEDIC SURGEON RIGHT NOW, AND HE'LL GET HERE AS SOON AS HE CAN.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE, THE THE LIGHT ATTENDANCE UP HERE.

NEXT IS SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE, AND THIS IS THE EXIT THREE IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

[B. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE EXIT 3 IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE EXIT 3 MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR THE FINANCING OF IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE EXIT 3 MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT BY ASSESSMENTS, OBLIGATIONS, AND OTHER FUNDS AS HEREIN DESCRIBED; AND OTHER MATTERS RELATING THERETO. (2023-11-2C) PUBLIC HEARING]

MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE? I DO NOT, MAYOR, OTHER THAN THE FACT WE DO HAVE THE SIGNED PETITION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER ACCEPTING THE THE THE MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

AND THAT LIKE JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT THAT DOES IS IF IF IF A LOAN PAYMENT COMES DUE BEFORE WE'VE COLLECTED TAXES, IT GETS IT GETS COLLECTED FROM THE MUNICIPAL, FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? NO. SO IF THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCE, THE 35% THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DOES NOT PAY OUR PORTION OR EVERYBODY'S PORTION OF THE DEBT SERVICE, THEN THE MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT IS LEVIED ON THOSE PARCELS.

RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.

RIGHT. SO THAT AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO THE PROPERTY.

THE OWNER ALSO PUT UP THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND.

SO THAT THAT ALSO COMES INTO PLAY AS WELL.

SO EITHER THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUNDS FUNDS ARE USED THAT NEED TO BE REPLENISHED.

THEN OMID COULD BE THE MUNICIPAL.

THE ASSESSMENTS COULD BE USED TO REPLENISH THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND.

AND THAT WAS DONE BY THE OWNERS.

AND WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. SO IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET AT IF IF FOR SOME REASON THESE RESTAURANTS AND GAS STATIONS DON'T GET BUILT AND WE DON'T GET TAXES WHEN THE LOANS DO, THEN THE MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT PAYS THAT, THAT PAYMENT.

THAT'S RIGHT. YOU HAVE YOUR ANNUAL PAYMENTS.

THEY START, I BELIEVE, IN YEAR 5 OR 6.

SO YOU HAVE YOUR ANNUAL PAYMENT DATE.

IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TAX INCREMENT REVENUE COVERED TO MAKE THAT ANNUAL PAYMENT, THEN THE DEBT SERVICE RESERVE FUND WILL PAY IT.

SO IT'S PAID ON TIME AND THEN WE'LL ASSESS THAT AMOUNT.

SO ONLY THE ONLY AMOUNT OF ASSESSMENT THAT WILL BE DONE WILL BE WHATEVER IS NEEDED TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

THAT SHORT FALLING.

SO THERE'S YEAH. LIKE YOU SAID, THAT'S WHY IT'S THE THREE LEGGED STOOL.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY GETTING AT TO ASSURE THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NO RISK IN TO THE CITY, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THIS BIG BILL.

SO BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S BACKSTOP.

SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN REFERRING TO IS BACKSTOPS.

IF IF ONE'S NOT IN PLACE, THEN IT GOES TO ANOTHER ONE.

AND THAT ACTUALLY THERE'S THREE IN PLACE.

SO I HOPE I DIDN'T CONFUSE ANYBODY WITH THAT.

SO, MR. WHITE, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO NOT MRS GUZMAN.

NO QUESTIONS, SIR, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC NOW, IF ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OR MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 11 TWO.

SEE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

ORDINANCE 2020 3-11-2.

SEE, WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

THE THIRD ORDINANCE WITH EXIT THREE.

AYE AYE. OKAY.

[C. SECOND READING OF THE MASTER FINANCING ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE AND INCURRING OF OBLIGATIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING A PORTION OF THE COST OF CERTAIN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO BE UNDERTAKEN PURSUANT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE EXIT 3 REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA AND THE REFUNDING OF OBLIGATIONS; LIMITING THE PAYMENT OF OBLIGATIONS FROM THE SOURCES PROVIDED OR PERMITTED HEREIN; PROVIDING FOR THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH OBLIGATIONS MAY BE ISSUED; MAKING OTHER COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS WITH RESPECT TO THE OBLIGATIONS; AND OTHER MATTERS RELATING THERETO. (2023-11-2D) PUBLIC HEARING]

MIKE, ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS IS THE FINANCING ORDINANCE THAT, YOU MENTIONED.

THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS OBVIOUSLY THANK MISS MAINS AND, ALAN AND SAM, OUR BOND COUNSEL, AS WELL AS, DAD WILSON, OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR.

THEY'VE BEEN INTEGRALLY INVOLVED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TWO WEEKS WE HAVE A PHONE CALL WITH A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS.

SO AGAIN. BUT THAT'S OKAY.

SO WE ARE WE ARE ENDING THAT CYCLE.

AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL THEIR EFFORTS.

SO NO, OTHER THAN THAT, THIS IS THE AGAIN, FINANCING STRUCTURE FOR THE LOAN.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION.

OKAY. SO WE'VE EXPLAINED THAT PRIOR.

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SO I'M NOT GOING TO CONFUSE ANYBODY BY SAYING ANYTHING FURTHER.

I'LL JUST OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

EXCUSE ME. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023, DASH 11, DASH 2D.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

ORDINANCE 2023, DASH ONE ONE DASH 2D.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

OKAY, NOW WE GO TO THE, THE FOURTH IN THE SERIES.

AYE AYE AYE.

MIKE, WHAT'S THIS ONE ABOUT? THIS THIS IS BASICALLY AUTHORIZING THE LOAN AND THEN APPROVING ALL THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENTS BETWEEN ALL THE PARTIES.

[D. SECOND READING OF SERIES 2023 SUPPLEMENTAL FINANCING ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING A LOAN FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE BANK (“SCTIB”) TO THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA (THE “CITY”) AND THE COUNTY OF JASPER, SOUTH CAROLINA (THE “COUNTY”) IN THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF NOT TO EXCEED $28,095,903 FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING A PORTION OF THE COST OF CERTAIN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO BE UNDERTAKEN PURSUANT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE EXIT 3 REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AREA; FIXING THE FORM AND DETAILS OF THE LOAN; LIMITING THE PAYMENT OF THE LOAN FROM THE SOURCES PROVIDED HEREIN; PROVIDING FOR THE DISPOSITION OF THE PROCEEDS THEREOF; AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE FOLLOWING: (1) AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT AMONG SCTIB, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, (2) AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND (3) AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE JASPER COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT; AND OTHER MATTERS RELATING THERETO. (2023-11-2E) PUBLIC HEARING]

SO THE ONLY THING THAT I DID WANT TO SAY IS, AGAIN, WE HAVE A VALUABLE PARTNER WITH THE OWNER THAT STRATFORD LAND AND AND HOPEFULLY THE PROPOSED BUYER THAT WHICH IS, THE GRAHAM GRAMLING CORPORATION.

AND WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY VALUE OUR VALUE, OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JASPER COUNTY AND THE JASPER COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT, AS THEY HAVE PLEDGED THEIR TIFF, THEIR PORTION OF TIFF TO HELP FINANCE THIS PROJECT.

SO A LONG AGAIN, LONG ROAD.

BUT WE APPRECIATE THOSE THOSE INTERGOVERNMENTAL PARTNERSHIPS.

SO WE'D RECOMMEND ADOPTION AT SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE.

OKAY. NOW IT'S TIME FOR THE PUBLIC.

WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO, VOICE AN OPINION? SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS 2023.

DASH 11, DASH 16.

EXCUSE ME TWO E.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ORDINANCE 2020 3-11-2E.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSELOR OF THE PUBLIC.

SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE I, I OKAY, EXIT THREE IS DONE, AT LEAST FOR THE MOMENT.

NOW WE GO ON TO THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, TO ADOPT THE MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF

[E. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO ADOPT A MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 31.9 ACRES, KNOWN GENERALLY AS FARMHOUSE AT EAST ARGENT TO INCLUDE A PORTION OF PARCEL 067-00-01-042 LOCATED OFF EAST ARGENT PARKWAY AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN (2023-11-16B) PUBLIC HEARING]

APPROXIMATELY 31.9 ACRES, KNOWN GENERALLY AS FARMHOUSE AT EAST ARGENT, TO INCLUDE A PORTION OF PARCEL 06700, DASH 01-042 LOCATED OFF EAST ARGENT PARKWAY, AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN.

THIS IS 2023 DASH 1116 B.

THIS IS THE SECOND AND FINAL READING OF THIS ORDINANCE.

MR.. CZYMBOR, PLEASE.

YEAH, WE DO HAVE MISS KATIE HERE.

WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.

I KNOW THE COUNCIL.

THIS WAS APPROVED AT FIRST READING.

I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT.

SO I THINK THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER THAT.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION AT SECOND READING.

SO I'LL ASK RUSTY WINDSOR WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO COME UP HERE AND.

RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS FROM THE FIRST READING.

OKAY. AFTERNOON.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WELCOME BACK.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS RUSTY WINDSOR WITH KIMLEY-HORN.

AND, JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I WAS NOT ABLE TO ANSWER LAST TIME.

SO THE THE QUESTION WERE THE, THE STAGES OF THE BUFFERS, AND SO THE THIS BUFFER SHOWN HERE, CAN WE GO TO THE NEXT THERE WAS TWO PICTURES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE OR NOT.

THERE SHOULD BE A YEP. THERE.

NOPE. NEXT NEXT ONE.

THAT OTHER ONE. I CAN.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO HERE IS THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE OVERALL BUFFER.

THIS DISTANCE THERE RIGHT THERE IS 160.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT I NEED TO KNOW? THAT WAS WHAT WE HAD ASKED.

GO BACK. THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE THE SMALLEST ONE ON AROUND THE MIDDLE.

SO THE SMALLEST ONE IS THIS ONE THERE.

THAT ONE'S 45FT.

THAT'S 45. NOW GO OVER TO THE WHERE THE 60 HERE 80 AND THEN 160.

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OKAY. IT'S 80.

OKAY. CORRECT. ALL RIGHT.

AND THE SMALLEST ONE IS 45, WHICH IS BEHIND THAT.

THAT THAT FAMOUS SHED.

MAINTENANCE FACILITY. YES, YES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING.

WITH MRS. GUZMAN. BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE DO WE HAVE ANY, UPDATE ON THE JUNIPER ROAD EASEMENT? GOOD QUESTION. WHY DON'T I, I HAD, INTENDED TO GIVE THAT REPORT, SO LET ME LET ME DO THAT.

NOW, SINCE YOU ASKED, IF YOU RECALL, AT THE LAST MEETING, WE PROMISED THAT WE WOULD GET A HOLD OF TOLL AND TALK ABOUT JUNIPER STREET. OKAY, WE DID THAT ON.

WHAT WAS THAT, MONDAY OR TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK? IT WAS A ZOOM MEETING, AND WE HAD PEOPLE FROM, TROON WHO OPERATE THE GOLF COURSE, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF VICE PRESIDENTS FROM TOLL ON THAT CALL.

SOME OF THE, ITEMS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, I TOLD THEM THAT THE COUNCIL IS ASKING THAT THEY, AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WHEN THIS GOES TO FULL BUILD OUT, ALL 300 AND SOME ODD APARTMENTS ARE BUILT AND THEN OCCUPIED, THAT THIS ROAD NO LONGER BE USED AS A MAINTENANCE ROAD, THAT THEY DO THAT AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR VOLUNTARILY, EVEN THOUGH LEGALLY I CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO THAT.

WHAT THEIR ANSWER WAS.

AND AFTER SOME BACK AND FORTH, THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHY.

AND I SAID, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND KIDS ON BICYCLES.

THEY COUNTERED THAT, WELL, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY, A GRANDCHILD VISITING AT RIVERTON POINTE.

AND MY ANSWER WAS, WELL, THERE'S MORE LIKELY TO BE MORE CHILDREN IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAN PERHAPS GRANDCHILDREN VISITING A COUPLE OF DAYS A YEAR.

THERE WILL BE CHILDREN IN BOTH SPOTS, BUT THESE TRUCKS ARE COMING IN FOR TOLL BROTHERS FOR RIVERTON POINTE, AND IT SHOULD BE THEIR ROAD USE.

I ALSO POINTED OUT IT'S ONLY A QUARTER OF A MILE, HALF A MILE UP THE ROAD.

IT'S NO BIG DEAL TO SEND THEM AROUND THERE.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SHARED WITH THAT, THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT.

THEY ALSO GAVE US SOME FIGURES OF HOW MANY TRUCKS WOULD BE USED PER YEAR GOING TO THAT SHED.

THEY SAID FERTILIZER COMES IN SIX TIMES A YEAR, SO THERE'S SIX TRUCKS A YEAR GOING IN AND OUT.

THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID.

THEY COULD HAVE A COUPLE LARGE TRACTOR TRACTOR TRAILERS A COUPLE OF TIMES PER YEAR.

SAND COMES IN IN MAY AND AUGUST.

A TOTAL OF FIVE TIMES PER YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.

WOULD, HOW MANY TRUCKS WOULD BE COMING TO THAT MAINTENANCE SHED? MRS. GUZMAN HAD SUBMITTED A QUESTION FOR ME TO ASK ON, ABOUT THE SPILLS OF WHATEVER CHEMICALS, FERTILIZER. IF THAT HAPPENS, THE ANSWER IS, AND WHO WOULD PAY FOR IT? AND THE ANSWER WE WERE GIVEN WAS THAT ANY SPILL, ANY ACCIDENT, WOULD BE PAID FOR BY THE PERSON WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SPILL. AND THE TRUCKERS AND THAT DELIVER THIS ARE INSURED.

SO IF A TRUCKER CAUSES THE ACCIDENT, IT WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO TO CLEAN IT UP THEIR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF CLOSING IT OFF.

I ASKED THEM TO GIVE AN ANSWER.

WELL, THIS SHOULD BE NO SURPRISE.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE IT VERY HIGH UP THE CORPORATE LADDER, AND THEY COULD NOT GET THAT ANSWER BY TONIGHT.

AND THEY COULDN'T OR WOULDN'T TELL ME WHAT TIME FRAME TO EXPECT.

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SO WHAT WE AGREED ON IS THAT THEY WOULD GIVE US A REPORT ON WHERE THEY ARE WITH GETTING THIS ANSWER WITHIN 30 DAYS, SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL COME BACK IN 30 DAYS WITH AN ANSWER.

IT MEANS THEY WILL REPORT WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GIVING ME THE ANSWER OF OF THAT.

SO BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THERE'S ONE OTHER ITEM, APPARENTLY SOME VEHICLE, THERE'S A GATE THERE THAT'S LOCKED, SOME SORT OF ARM, AN ARM THERE.

AND SOME VEHICLE RAN IT OVER AND THAT WE ASKED THEM TO GET THAT GATE REPLACED AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE THE PART ON ORDER. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD.

OKAY. SO, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION.

THAT'S WHAT, TOOK PLACE.

SO MRS GUZMAN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, MIKE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT I LEFT OUT THAT.

NO, THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAD IN MY NOTES RECAP.

I THINK THEY WERE GENERALLY INTERESTED IN TRYING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND A GOOD PARTNER.

AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO LOOK FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, GOLF COURSE AND STUFF.

BUT I THINK THEY SEEM TO BE VERY RECEPTIVE AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE'LL GET THE HONOR.

OUR REQUEST.

NOW FOR THE APPLICANT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT APPARENTLY THAT IF THIS THEY CONTINUED TO USE THIS EASEMENT FOR BRINGING THOSE TRUCKS THAT I JUST MENTIONED IN, THEN, THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE ROAD.

THAT'S THE GRAVEL ROAD NOW, RIGHT? THEY SAID, WELL, IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ANY ROAD, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT IT OFF WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED YOUR PROJECT, I SAID, WELL, THAT'S BETWEEN YOU AND THEM. AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME SHARED MAINTENANCE.

SO IF THEY DO COME BACK AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO CUT OFF THIS ACCESS AS WE'VE ASKED THEM TO, THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. JUST SO.

RIGHT. YOU WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, GREG, ORANGE CAPITAL, THANKS AGAIN FOR HAVING US.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE BEEN, SO IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO USE IT ANYMORE, WE'LL PROBABLY TEAR UP THE ROAD AND JUST HAVE IT TURN INTO GREEN SPACE AND ADD ON TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

OKAY, SO THEY ASKED THAT QUESTION, WELL, WHAT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? I SAID, WELL, THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE A ROAD ACCESSING WHATEVER BUILDINGS THEY HAVE.

SO SO WE'LL BASICALLY HAVE THAT SAME ROAD, IT'LL BE IMPROVED TO THAT INTERSECTION.

AND THEN FROM THE INTERSECTION SOUTH.

WE'LL BASICALLY TEAR THAT UP AND TURN IT INTO GREEN SPACE IF THEY DROP THE EASEMENT.

SO THAT ONE SECTION THAT LOOKS LIKE A CIRCLE, YOU WOULD DROP THAT OFF.

THAT THAT ROAD OFF THAT WOULD BASICALLY GET CUT OUT AND THERE WOULD BE GREEN, GREEN LANDSCAPING, WHATEVER.

REPLANT IT, REPLANT IT.

SO THAT IS EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO US.

AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS WHO WANT THAT ROAD CLOSED OFF, THAT WOULD EVEN FURTHER, KEEP ROADWAYS AND ACCESSIBILITY TO RIVERTON POINT EVEN FURTHER.

RATHER THAN HAVE THAT ROAD THERE.

SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO PURSUE TALL TO DO THIS.

I DO NOT HAVE AN ANSWER.

THEY WOULD NOT GIVE US AN ANSWER ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD DO IT, BUT WE WILL USE EVERY BIT OF THE CITY'S INFLUENCE THAT WE CAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. I APPRECIATE THAT AND WE'RE FLEXIBLE.

IF THEY WANT TO KEEP IT, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM ON.

WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S THE ROADS IMPROVED.

I WOULD RATHER HAVE LANDSCAPING THERE AND KNOW EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE MINIMUM AMOUNT OF TRUCKS, ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY TOLD ME, I'D RATHER THEM GO THERE FOR RIVERTON POINT.

THEY SHOULD USE RIVERTON POINT ROADS IN, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.

YES, SIR. OKAY, SO THAT'S THE REPORT.

MRS GUZMAN ON WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE MEETING ON, EARLIER THIS WEEK.

SO THAT TOOK ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ABOUT THAT.

THE ONLY THING ALEC I WANT TO ASK YOU IS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION FROM EVERY DEVELOPER THAT COMES WITH A MULTIFAMILY, COMPLEX THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD IS I SEE A LOT OF BODIES OF WATER AROUND IN YOUR COMPLEX THAT YOU'RE BUILDING.

I CANNOT FORCE YOU TO PUT A FENCE AROUND THOSE TO PROTECT THE LITTLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN THERE.

KIDS WILL BE KIDS AND THEY'LL DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO KIND OF THING.

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ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING ANY KINDS OF SIGNS IN THERE THAT WILL WARN PEOPLE THAT THERE MIGHT BE GATORS IN THERE OR, YOU KNOW, DON'T SWIM IN THIS WATER.

DON'T FISH IN THIS WATER.

YES, MA'AM. WE DO HAVE SIGNAGE AT ALL OF OUR PROJECTS THAT DO NOT HAVE A FENCE REQUIRED.

OKAY. BUT I'M NOT SURE WITH.

SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED HERE.

WE'D MOST LIKELY PUT THE SIGN SIGNAGE UP.

PERFECT. THAT'S ALL I WANT.

THANKS. AND I THINK WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF WELCOME BROCHURE THAT WOULD WARN EVERYBODY OF THE DANGERS OF WILDLIFE IN THAT AREA.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THAT'S IT.

MR. WHITE, NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO GET INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.

THE, A COUPLE OF THINGS ON SOME EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED.

THERE WAS A CONCERN FROM.

MARK GOODIER AND TANYA GOODIER.

ARE THEY HERE? OKAY.

THEY'RE THEIR FUTURE RESIDENTS, SO THEY WOULDN'T BE HERE.

THEY ASKED FOR, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

COULD YOU SHOW ME WHERE THOSE ARE? YES. SO THE PICKLEBALL COURTS.

RIGHT IN THIS AREA.

OKAY. SHE, THE GUTIERREZ WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE POLLUTION.

OF THOSE PICKLEBALL COURTS, ARE THERE TIME LIMITS AND LIGHTS INVOLVED IN THIS? PICKLEBALL? DAYTIME ONLY.

MAYBE A LITTLE BIT PAST SUNDOWN.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO MAKE THAT A NIGHTTIME WITH LIGHTS.

THERE WILL BE NO LIGHTS, AS FAR AS I KNOW RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE USE THE PICKLEBALL COURTS OUTSIDE AT NIGHT.

WELL, IF YOU DON'T PUT LIGHTS, THE ANSWER IS NONE.

YES, SIR. OH, MY.

YEARS AGO, ON THE BARK. YOU KNOW, AND IT DOES STAY LIGHT TILL 9:00 IN THE SUMMER.

SO, BUT LIGHTING PRESENTS ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR THE PEOPLE BEYOND THE TREE LINE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE HIGH.

THEN THEY CAN BE VISIBLE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT VISIBILITY DOWN.

DO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT PREVENTS LIGHTS TO GO ON THE PICKLEBALL COURT CITYWIDE? CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THAT? YEP. SORRY. CITYWIDE YOU CANNOT HAVE LIGHT THAT HAS LIGHT POLLUTION THAT GOES OVER PROPERTY LINES.

SO IT WOULD WE REQUIRE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN WHICH SHOWS US WHERE THAT LIGHT IS GOING.

AND WE ALSO HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF BULBS.

AND IT HAS TO FACE DOWNWARD.

SO THAT'LL BE COVERED AT STAFF REVIEW COMMITTEE.

OKAY. GREAT.

THANK YOU. THE THE MAJORITY OF THE EMAILS THAT I'VE GOTTEN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM ALL, BUT THE MAJORITY OF, IF NOT ALL OF THE EMAILS.

AND I'LL LET THE PUBLIC CORRECT ME IF, IF, WHEN I OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

THEY ALL WANT THIS EASEMENT ROAD CUT OFF.

THE COUNCIL EXPRESSED THAT AS WELL.

FOR THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT GO THROUGH.

IT'S NOT WORTH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR STUFF GO THROUGH THEIR ROAD.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN AGREE WITH ME ON THAT.

SO I CAN ASSURE YOU WE WILL NOT LET THIS DROP.

WE WILL USE EVERY LEVERAGE WE CAN TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THERE THE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EMAILS.

THERE'S. AND MR. AND MRS. GOODYEAR ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE, VISIBILITY OF THE APARTMENTS OVER THE TREE LINE.

SO THAT IS DULY NOTED.

THE. I THINK WE ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE BUFFERS ARE.

SO MY PERSONAL OPINION AND WHY I ASKED FOR THAT, I THINK WITH THAT AMOUNT OF UNTOUCHED.

AND THESE ARE UNTOUCHED, RIGHT?

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WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THOSE TREE LINES.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CUT DOWN AND PUT A BURM THAT'S, COMPLETELY THAT LENGTH.

SOME EMAILS HAVE ASKED FOR A SECURITY FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY.

IN MY OPINION, THAT AMOUNT OF FORESTED AREA REMAINING IS SUFFICIENT.

AND DOESN'T NEED A FENCE.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

BUT IF, LET'S, LET'S OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC, AND WE'VE GIVEN YOU ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO, ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS.

I HAD A FEELING YOU WERE GOING TO COME UP.

GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW HAVE YOU BEEN? GOOD. COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES, I AM DEB THOMPSON.

I LIVE AT 700 LAUREL OAK AVENUE, AND I'M RIGHT ON THE SEVENTH.

THE SEVENTH GREEN THERE.

SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME.

THANK ALEC AND RUSTY AND THE TEAM FOR BEING SO CONGENIAL AND WORKING WITH US ON THIS.

I JUST HAVE TWO COMMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE, THIS IS JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT GRAVEL ROAD JUNIPER, THERE IS NOT AN ARM OR ANYTHING THERE.

IT IS A BROKEN CATTLE GATE THAT IS TIED OPEN, AND LEFT OPEN.

SO THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING IN.

THERE WAS A THEFT AT THE MAINTENANCE SHED, THAT THE PERPETRATOR WAS CAUGHT AND THE MATERIAL RETURNED.

BUT THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS.

THE OTHER THING IS, WE WERE JUST TO.

I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT I WANT TO ANSWER THAT FIRST QUESTION.

WE WERE TOLD AND REASSURED THAT THAT GATE WOULD BE REPLACED AND LOCKED.

RIGHT? RIGHT, MIKE.

THAT'S TRUE. SO WE WILL, KATIE.

BRIANNA, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT GETS DONE.

WE WERE ASSURED THAT THAT WOULD THAT THAT THEY'VE ORDERED THE PART TO DO THAT.

OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THEN I JUST HAVE A CLARIFICATION FOR THE DEVELOPER.

THAT'S SURE. SO MY HUSBAND AND I WALKED DOWN TO THE PROPERTY, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE PINK RIBBONS AROUND THE TREES.

IS THAT THE PROPERTY LINE? THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. WOULD YOU LIKE THEM TO CHANGE THE COLOR? NO, NO.

IT JUST. I WORE THIS PINK.

IT WAS JUST. I MEAN, WHEN WE WALKED DOWN THERE, WE KEPT WALKING AND WALKING AND WALKING.

AND THEN WE SAW THE TREE WITH THE PINK RIBBON, AND IT WAS LIKE, OH, THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD BUFFER ONTO THAT.

CORRECT? OKAY.

SO THAT AND I SENT PICTURES TO A LOT OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS IT SEEMS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED.

SO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO BEFORE I CALL FOR A MOTION.

YES, SIR. JUST QUICKLY ON THE FENCE, PLEASE.

ROBERT COHN, 1576 AZALEA.

IF IF THEY KEEP THE ROAD AND THEY KEEP THE GATE INSTEAD OF JUST A CATTLE GATE OR AN ARM THAT COULD BREAK IF THEY COULD MAKE LIKE A GATE, LIKE AN ENTRANCE GATE TO A GATED COMMUNITY THAT OPENS UP SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT KEEPS PEOPLE OUT MORE THAN I THINK A CATTLE GATE KIND OF INVITES. WELL, IT'S NOT A REAL GATE.

SO THAT WOULD BE I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE THE FALLBACK PLAN B, BUT, AND IF THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A OF A FENCE NEXT TO EACH GATE, SO YOU CAN'T JUST LIKE WALK AROUND IT, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, BUT THERE'S ONLY 40FT RIGHT THERE.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF A FENCE WOULD BE, POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, BENEFICIAL SINCE IT'S SO INFREQUENT, PER THEIR STATEMENTS, HAVING A SECURE FENCE OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

AND KATE BROWN, COULD YOU GET THAT INTO THE RECORD? AND IT SECURED AND LOCKED.

THAT'S NOT I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN UNREASONABLE REQUEST.

AND WE'LL WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

BROWN. AND AND MIKE WILL MAKE THAT WHEN WE GET THE NEXT MEETING WITH THEM, WHEN WE GET THE REPORT, LET'S LET'S MAKE THAT A, A REQUIREMENT.

OKAY. BUT LET'S HOPE THAT WE GET PLAN A.

YES, SIR. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YES. DANA DUNCAN 620 LAUREL OAK.

CLARIFICATION THAT DOTTED LINE THAT GOES HORIZONTAL.

IS THAT THE PROPERTY LINE? YES, SIR. THAT IS SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE UNDISTURBED, BUFFER THERE, DO WE HAVE DO YOU HAVE ASSURANCES FROM

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TOLL BROTHERS THAT THE BOTTOM SIDE, THE TOLL SIDE WILL NOT BE DISTURBED? YES, SIR. I BROUGHT THAT UP AT THE MEETING.

AND THEIR ANSWER WAS THAT THAT UNDISTURBED TREE LINE IS PART OF THEIR MASTER PLAN, AND THEY CAN'T CHANGE IT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MASTER PLAN THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED WHENEVER THAT HAPPENED.

SO THEY CAN'T TOUCH IT PER THE MASTER PLAN.

VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SIR.

I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.

GOOD QUESTION.

ANYONE ELSE? BEFORE I PUT THIS UP FOR A VOTE.

I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE PEOPLE FROM RIVERTON POINTE.

ORANGE CAPITAL.

I DON'T THINK ANY PROJECT WE'VE EVER COME ACROSS AS A DEVELOPER NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE, SAT WITH A COMMUNITY, A GROUP FROM THE COMMUNITY AND TRY TO COME UP WITH A BETTER PROJECT AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS OF, OF THE, OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO YOU BOTH DESERVE A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS FOR WORKING TOGETHER.

I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT TEMPORARY LIGHT UP BEFORE THESE TRUCKS START COMING IN.

SO I COMPLIMENT, MR. DAVIS OF OUR STAFF FOR, PUSHING DOT FOR THAT.

AND THERE'S JUST ONE OTHER THING THAT CAME UP AND I FORGOT THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, JUST SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

THIS IS PART OF THE EAST ARGENT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

WE RENEGOTIATED THIS DISTRICT IN 2017.

WE ANNOUNCED IT IN NOVEMBER OF THAT YEAR.

THE DISTRICT. THAT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS SIGNED BY A CONTRACT IN AROUND 2005.

MIKE AND THE STAFF RENEGOTIATE IT FROM A DENSITY OF 12,500 TO 9500.

AND THAT INCLUDES RIVERTON POINTE.

AND ON THE OTHER END, HEARTHSTONE LAKES.

IN THAT DISTRICT, THERE'S ONE POINT 5,000,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S ALLOWED.

ON THE OLD FIELD SIDE.

WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE PARKERS AT THAT CORNER.

ON THE OTHER CORNER, PUBLIX HAS PURCHASED LAND.

THEY HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANY PLANS.

ALSO PART OF THE COMMERCIAL WE APPROVED.

PROBABLY THE FIRST THING WE APPROVED WAS THE MANSIONS.

IT'S AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY.

OKAY. AND THAT'S CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL, NOT RESIDENTIAL.

SO, AND ALSO WHAT THAT LANDOWNER DID, THEY GAVE THE CITY 80 ACRES.

WE HAVE 83 ACRES THAT WE COULD PUT POLICE AND FIRE SUBSTATIONS THERE.

AND THAT'S THE PLAN.

MAYBE WE PUT A PARK.

WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET.

AND THE ROAD'S NOT COMPLETE.

THAT LOOP ROAD WILL BE COMPLETE.

THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IN 2026, APPROXIMATELY.

YOU KNOW, THEY ALSO GAVE LAND TO THE YMCA.

AND I MET WITH THE YMCA A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

THE DIRECTOR.

AND THEY'RE CONTINUING THEIR CAPITAL, THEIR CAPITAL FUNDRAISING, BECAUSE WHEN THEY WENT TO WHEN THEY GOT THE PROJECT WENT UP FROM 13.5 MILLION TO 16 MILLION.

SO THEY HAVE TO GO TRY TO FIND A FEW MILLION MORE.

BUT THE YMCA WILL BE COMING THERE.

THEY WERE GIVEN ABOUT 25 ACRES FROM THE MASTER LANDOWNER AND THE ALSO THEY GAVE ABOUT 30 ACRES TO OSPREY VILLAGE.

AND WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE CHARTER SCHOOL SOMEWHAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS WHOLE DISTRICT.

I GOT LETTERS FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITY A WHILE BACK AND TOLD.

BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN THE OTHER DAY AND THEY SAID.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL.

THEY'RE IN A DISTRICT LIKE THIS.

COMMERCIALS IS ZONED AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL.

THIS WAS NEVER SOLELY DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIAL.

IT EITHER ONE WAS POSSIBLE THERE.

I THINK THIS PROJECT IS FAR MORE.

AMENABLE TO WHAT'S OUR COMMUNITY? RATHER THAN HAVING, PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF THAT LOOP ROAD TO GO TO A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE.

SO, I THINK THIS I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS ZONED.

THE WHOLE DISTRICT IS ZONED FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. HAVING SAID THAT, ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC?

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ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO ASK, WAS THERE ANYTHING, ONLINE, ANY COMMENTS ONLINE? ELIZABETH? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO SECOND READING AND FINAL READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 1116 B.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE.

ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 B.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? YES, PLEASE. IS THERE LET ME COME UP.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

PLEASE COME UP.

TALK IN THE MICROPHONE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

I'M. I'M DEBBIE DUNCAN, AND I LIVE ON LAUREL OAK.

WHEN YOU APPROVE THIS, IS THERE ANY ANYTHING IN THE, ORDINANCE REGARDING YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH TOLL BROTHERS AND WHAT THEY MAY OR MAY NOT DO? THE IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE TOLL BROTHERS ARE NOT PART OF THIS, OKAY.

BUT IT'S IN THE PUBLIC.

IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.

IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.

AND HOW CAN THAT BE? EVERYTHING EVERYTHING DISCUSSED HERE AND EVERYTHING SAID AND PROMISED IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.

IT'LL BE IN OUR MINUTES, AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN WE APPROVE THEM.

SO IT'S. BUT IT'S NOT.

AND, MRS MEANS RATHER THAN ME TALK LEGALLY.

THIS IS THIS POSSIBLE TO PUT ANYWHERE OTHER THAN THE THE PUBLIC RECORD? I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IN YOUR RECORDING OF THIS MEETING AND THEN IT CAN BE DENOTED IN THE MINUTES, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH TOLL BROTHERS IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. BUT THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SOMETHING IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD MENTION TOLL BROTHERS IS NOT A PART OF THIS APPROVAL.

SO NOTHING'S BASED ON WHETHER TOLL BROTHERS DOES OR DOESN'T.

I MEAN, JUNIPER OR NOT.

THIS IS THIS IS BETWEEN COUNCIL, BETWEEN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE AND ORANGE CAPITAL.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, TOLL BROTHERS ISN'T PART OF IT.

SO, SO WE JUST HAVE TO USE OUR LEVERAGE AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

ANYONE ELSE BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS, BUT I THINK A PRODUCTIVE ONE AND EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN PART OF IT, AND I KNOW, MRS. DUNCAN, YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF IT.

AYE. THANK YOU EVERYONE.

MRS. THOMPSON, YOU HAVE BEEN PEOPLE.

AND DONNA ISN'T HERE.

I KNOW, SHE'S BEEN A BIG PART OF IT.

AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HELPED THEM, GIVE THIS KIND OF THIS INPUT.

IT WAS A IT WAS A GREAT.

DEMOCRATIC EXAMPLE.

THANK YOU EVERYONE AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PROJECT.

THANK YOU. AND PUT A LITTLE PRESSURE ON TOLL BROTHERS WHILE WE'RE DOING IT.

OKAY.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD SHOT. WE TRIED TOGETHER.

WE APPRECIATE IT. OKAY, I KNOW, I KNOW, YOU'RE GOING.

THERE IS. YOU ARE SAYING.

OKAY, NOW WE GO ON TO THE SECOND READING.

WHERE AM I? EXCUSE ME.

YES. OKAY. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE.

THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, APPROVING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO AND PARTIAL REINSTATEMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND,

[F. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA APPROVING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO AND PARTIAL RESTATEMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE AND SLF-III HARDEEVILLE, LLC OWNER OF THE LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE "RIVERPORT TRACT." (2023-12-14G) PUBLIC HEARING]

THE OWNER OF THE LAND, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE RIVER PORT TRACK.

MR.. CZYMBOR, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH. MISS MAINES IS GOING TO HANDLE THIS, MR. MAYOR. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SO THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AMENDMENT, KIND OF IF YOU THINK BACK A FEW ITEMS AGO WHERE YOU JUST APPROVED A TIF AND A MID AND ORDINANCES, IT'S A COMPLICATED FINANCING STRUCTURE FOR THE EXIT THREE AND THE RAIL, ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS AMENDMENT TO THE DA, MEMORIALIZES A GOOD BIT OF THAT AS AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE OWNER.

AND THEN, THE STATE INFRASTRUCTURE BANK IS ALSO LIMITED PARTNER IN THIS AS WELL.

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SO ALL OF THOSE CHANGES ARE OUTLINED IN THIS DA.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT DOCUMENT, NOTHING HAS CHANGED BETWEEN THE LAST PRESENTATION, THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK WE CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE LANGUAGE, TO MORE ACCURATELY, MEMORIALIZE THE UNDERSTANDINGS THAT THE CITY HAD WITH THE DEVELOPER.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE THAT'S CHANGED WITH THIS DOCUMENT.

OKAY, SO BASIC HOUSEKEEPING.

THIS ONE IS.

SO, MR. WHITE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? I DO NOT MRS GUZMAN.

NO, SIR. OKAY, I, I DO NOT EITHER.

SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CALL.

I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH.

12 DASH 14 G.

I MAKE A MOTION ON THE SECOND READING TO APPROVE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 G.

WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

AYE. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE SECOND READING AND THE NEXT TWO ARE RELATED.

SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO AMEND THE ZONING, OF 35.79 ACRES.

[G. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND THE ZONING FOR PARCEL 030-00-02-008 AND FOR PARCEL 030-00-02-032 CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 35.79 ACRES COMBINED FROM MIXED USE DISTRICT TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (2024-1-18B) PUBLIC HEARING]

AND THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024, DASH ONE, DASH 18 B, MR. CZYMBOR, PLEASE. YES, SIR.

I THINK WE REALLY DISCUSSED THIS IN DETAIL AT THE LAST MEETING, BUT BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, THIS IS PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE HARDEEVILLE COMMERCE PARK, AND THEY WANT AND ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THREE OF THE LOTS, I BELIEVE, BOUGHT ADDITIONAL PROPERTY.

AND THEY BASICALLY WANT TO MAKE THE ZONING COMPATIBLE WITH THE ZONING AND THE HARDEEVILLE COMMERCE PARK.

SO BASICALLY THERE'S THREE PARCELS.

THE FIRST TWO, I BELIEVE ARE 30, ALMOST 36 ACRES.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS 2.38 ACRES.

THEY HAD DIFFERENT ZONING.

SO BASICALLY THEY HAVE TO BE TREATED SEPARATELY.

BUT IT WOULD TRUE UP THE ZONING THAT'S IN THE HARDEEVILLE COMMERCE PARK.

I THINK WE'RE STARTING WITH MRS. GUZMAN. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. MR. WHITE. NONE.

I DON'T EITHER, AND THE NEXT ONE AFTER IT.

WE DISCUSSED BOTH OF THOSE, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

SO AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC.

ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? SEEING NONE.

I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH ONE DASH 18 B.

I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH ONE DASH 18 B.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OF THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

I BEGAN TO MAKE A LOT OF MOTIONS TONIGHT.

BO I'M MR. ORDINANCE. IT LOOKS LIKE STEVE'S NOT HERE TO DO THAT.

I GET PAID BY ORDINANCE.

VALERIE, ARE YOU AWAKE? OVER THERE. OKAY, LET'S.

THIS IS THE SECOND PART OF THIS.

SO THE ADJOINING, THIS 2.3 ACRES TO THE OTHER 35.79 ACRES TO MAKE ONE,

[H. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND THE ZONING FOR PARCEL 030-00-02-033 CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 2.38 ACRES FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (2024-1-18C) PUBLIC HEARING]

INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.

MR. CZYMBOR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? NO, SIR. OTHER THAN WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION.

OKAY. MR. WHITE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I DO NOT.

MRS GUZMAN. NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY, I DON'T EITHER.

SO, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS? SEEING NONE.

I'LL CALL FOR, LET'S SEE.

I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE.

2020 4-1.

DASH 18. SEE? I MAKE A MOTION ON SECOND READING FOR THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH ONE DASH 18.

SEE? WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GOING INTO NEW BUSINESS.

AND THESE ARE FIRST READINGS OF ORDINANCES.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS, TO AMEND THE MUNICIPAL ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AT THE MS DO, BEING APPENDIX A

[A. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND THE MUNICIPAL ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE (MZDO), BEING APPENDIX A OF THE HARDEEVILLE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AND MATTERS RELATED THERETO (2024-2-1A) PUBLIC HEARING]

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OF THE HARDEEVILLE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP AND MATTERS RELATED THERETO.

THIS IS 2020 4-1.

DASH ONE A.

RYAN, ARE YOU TAKING THIS ONE? OKAY. FIRE AWAY.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

AND HAPPY TO FINALLY BE HERE TO DISCUSS THIS, WHEN I'VE BASICALLY KEPT THE, PRESENTATION SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAD AT THE LAST WORKSHOP WE HAD A WEEK OR SO AGO.

I JUST ADDED A COUPLE OF THINGS TO THAT AND WELL, OF COURSE WITH MY HIGHLIGHTING, YOU CAN'T SEE IT ON HERE, SO LET ME.

READ THIS TO YOU.

THE EDITS, AS WE MENTIONED.

PREVIOUSLY AT THE WORKSHOP WERE CONSISTS MAINLY OF THINGS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WORKSHOP AND MEETINGS.

WE HAD A REQUEST FOR A SLIGHT REVISION DUE TO REGIONAL TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND EVERYTHING, AND I'M GOING TO READ WHAT SECTION 74D4B1 SHOULD ACTUALLY SAY.

AND WE'RE ADDING THIS LANGUAGE ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES.

AND IT'LL SAY THAT THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO REQUIRE A SECOND REVIEW OF ALL TIAS AT THE APPLICANT'S EXPENSE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COORDINATION WITH NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS.

AND WE'VE, FEEL THAT IT'S IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A BACKUP, ESPECIALLY AS OUR TRAFFIC CONCERNS ARE INCREASING.

SO, THAT'S WHAT THAT ONE SAYS.

AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'VE DONE TRANSECT ZONE THREE PRESERVATION CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EROSION AND STORMWATER CONTROL.

WE DID SINCE THE LAST WORKSHOP, WORKED WITH MR. BROWN AND, SOME OTHER PROFESSIONALS AS FAR AS THE SOCO STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL GOES.

AND THERE WAS A STATEMENT IN THERE ABOUT, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES SITE.

BETTER SITE DESIGN.

AND I'M GOING TO READ THE REWRITE THAT THAT MR..

BROWN RECOMMENDS.

ALL APPLICATIONS SHOULD CONSIDER THE SOLO CO STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL, AS AMENDED.

AND UPON ADOPTION BY THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE IN THE DESIGN STORMWATER CONTROL SYSTEMS. IN THE EVENT OF A CONFLICT BETWEEN BETTER SITE DESIGN PRINCIPLES, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, AND WATER QUALITY REQUIREMENTS INCLUDED IN THE. AND STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL AND THE CITY'S MS MACEDO.

THE REQUIRES OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE MACEDO SHALL PREVAIL AND HAVE PRECEDENTS.

SO JUST CLARIFYING SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE AND MAKING A HIERARCHY OF DOCUMENTS SO THAT THERE'S NOT CONFUSION ON WHAT WE'RE USING AND HOW WE'RE USING THE STORMWATER DESIGN MANUAL STANDARDS.

WE ALSO TALK ABOUT THE MEPS AND THE VERBIAGE USED IN THE CLEAN WATER ACT.

ONCE AGAIN, IT IT TALKS ABOUT THOSE, TO MAKE SURE THE DEFINITIONS ARE CLEAR AND CONSISTENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE HIGHLIGHTS ARE THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THERE.

AS MENTIONED BEFORE, I THINK AT THE LAST AT THE WORKSHOP, YOU ASKED ME WHAT YOUR YOUR FAVORITE TOPIC WAS AND I GOOFED ON THAT ONE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW I MISSED IT, BUT WHITE HARDEE BOULEVARD MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION.

I WILL SKIP DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS, ON.

EARLY THE WEEK.

NEXT WEEK WE'RE HAVING A IMPLEMENTATION.

COMMITTEE KICKOFF MEETING.

WE'VE GOT SOME STAFF FROM AROUND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY.

WE ARE FORMING A COMMITTEE.

WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDING IN THE CIP AS WELL AS FROM ARPA FUNDS.

AND WE PLAN TO USE THESE.

BULLET POINTS ABOVE TO START IMPLEMENTING THE WHITE HART BOULEVARD MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THESE WILL BE THINGS THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT TRAFFIC CALMING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE.

IT WILL BE ANYTHING OTHER THINGS THAT MAY MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE AND USER FRIENDLY, THAT WILL WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE TRANSECT ZONES THAT THE MCDO NOW HAS, WILL HAVE IN IT.

ALSO LAST WEEK WE ATTENDED STAFF.

DID THE POLICE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF, MR. BROWN, KATIE AND I, A LOW COUNTRY COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS SAFETY ACTION PLAN, REGIONAL SAFETY SUMMIT.

THERE IS A US DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION HAS SOME, GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PLANNING AND DEMONSTRATION OF SOME SAFETY MEASURES, AND ARE LOOKING FOR PROJECTS THAT WILL BEST DEMONSTRATE THAT AND HAVE SOME SOME GRANT FUNDING.

WE PRIORITIZE NEEDS AND JASPER COUNTY, WHITE, HARDEE BOULEVARD AND SOME OF OUR OTHER ROADS ARGENT, WE'RE AT THE TOP OF THAT PRIORITIZATION LIST.

AND SO I WANT TO THROW GO AHEAD AND THROW THAT OUT THERE THAT WE ARE INCLUDING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS IN AS WE'RE WORKING ON WHITE HARDEE BOULEVARD.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD UPDATE ON THAT ONE.

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FINALLY, IT'S PART OF A ZONING ORDINANCE REWRITE AND UPDATE.

YOU HAVE TO ALSO SAY YOU WANT TO OFFICIALLY ADOPT THE, OF THE ZONING MAP.

SO MAKE IT AN OFFICIAL ZONING MAP.

WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A CONVERSION OF THOSE DOWNTOWN ZONES TO THE NEW TRANSIT ZONE TRANSECT ZONES.

IT WON'T CHANGE ANYTHING ON THE MAP.

IT'LL JUST CHANGE THE TITLES OF THOSE DISTRICTS.

EXCUSE ME. AS WELL AS IDENTIFICATION OF OVERLAYS AND CORRIDORS, THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN ON OUR OFFICIAL ZONING MAP IN THE PAST.

THEY'VE BEEN, REFERENCED BY BY LOCATION AND TEXT, AND WE WANT TO HAVE THEM INDICATED ON THERE.

JUST A REMINDER.

THE ZONING MAP DOES GET AMENDED EVERY TIME YOU APPROVE A MAP AMENDMENT OR A REZONING, AND THAT WILL BE SO.

IT IS A DYNAMIC DOCUMENT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE.

THAT'S BASICALLY IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT I WANTED TO HIT ON BEFORE WE, HOPEFULLY GO FORWARD TO FIRST READING.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION DO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF, YOU YOU GIVE READING FIRST READING TO THIS DOCUMENT AND WE CAN START WORKING ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS. MRS MAINS.

DO WE NEED TO PAUSE? WE HAVE NO LONGER HAVE A QUORUM.

YEAH THAT'S CORRECT.

SORRY. WE HAVE TO PAUSE.

WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

SO, I'M MRS GUZMAN.

I EXPECT WE'LL BE BACK SHORTLY.

CAN ANYBODY SING OR DANCE? NOT ME.

YOU'RE ALLOWED TO STAND UP.

MAMA WANTS TO SING A DANCE.

MAMA IS GOING TO SING.

MAMA DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

STUFF. OH, SHE'S ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

WE DO. WE'RE DISTRACTING JOHN.

STAND. UP OUTSIDE.

EXCUSE ME. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE. YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD HAVE PROPPED SOMEBODY UP IF WE HAD TO.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD.

WE COULD HAVE HAD THE EMERGENCY SERVICES PUT YOU IN THE CHAIR.

NO NO NO NO, NO, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PRETTY SIGHT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO, BRANDON HAS GIVEN THE UPDATE ON THE MCDO ORDINANCE. WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO COUNCIL QUESTIONING.

MR. WHITE, I THINK IT'S YOUR TURN.

NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE LOOKED AT THIS CAREFULLY, AND YOU'RE READY TO ALSO DO SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS DOWN THE ROAD, SO THAT'S GOOD.

THANK YOU. MRS GUZMAN.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

I THINK, WHAT THEY HAVE COME UP WITH IS I THINK THE NEW MS, I THINK IT'S GREAT AND THE UPDATES ARE JUST WONDERFUL. SO THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO THIS.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

AND AGAIN, THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL, YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET THIS DONE.

JUST GO BACK. ONE SLIDE.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, THAT I HAD IN MY NOTES FROM THE LAST MEETING, BUT THE 278 HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY.

WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE DETAILS OF IT IN MY BRAIN, BUT I WILL DO MY BEST TO COME UP WITH IT.

BASICALLY, IT IS TO, MAKE THE THE CONSISTENCY AS AS GOOD AS POSSIBLE WITH BUFFERS WITH, LAND USE TYPES AND EVERYTHING.

IT GOES ABOUT 1000FT, 1000FT, OFF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ON EITHER SIDE OF 278 FROM EXIT EIGHT THROUGH ARGENT BOULEVARD.

CLOSE, CLOSE IN THERE.

ARE THE THE AREAS OF THE CITY LIMITS.

SO WE, MAINLY FOCUSED ON WE WERE GETTING SOME REQUESTS FOR SOME, SOME.

THINGS THAT WE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY SEE AS WE WERE DRIVING DOWN.

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278. WE ALL WANT TO SEE THOSE THAT TREE COVERAGE.

WE WANT THOSE BUFFERS.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SIGNAGE IS CONSISTENT AND, APPROPRIATE FOR A GATEWAY INTO THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE AND THE LOWCOUNTRY.

AND THE PURPOSE FOR MY QUESTION IS I'M REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE, LIKE YOU SAID, IS THE PRESERVATION OF THE TREE LINE.

WHAT WE DO HAVE A REALLY PRETTY ENTRANCE WAY INTO THE LOW COUNTRY FROM EXIT EIGHT.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD CORRIDOR OVERLAY PLAN.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE CORNER OF JOHN SMITH ROAD.

AND THAT IS THEY'RE DOING WHAT THE ZONING ALLOWS.

THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO.

BUT IT DID TAKE DOWN THE TREE LINE THERE AND THAT'S FINE.

IT YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IT DIDN'T COME BEFORE COUNCIL.

THERE'S NOTHING. AND YOU DID WHAT YOU ARE LEGALLY RESPONSIBLE TO DO.

THERE WILL BE SOME REPLACEMENT LANDSCAPING GOING THERE.

THERE. THERE HAS BEEN SOME SOME CODE ENFORCEMENT INVOLVED.

AND AND MISS WOODRUFF HAS MOST DEFINITELY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT TO TRY TO KEEP THEM.

REPLACING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME DOWN THAT MAYBE SHOULDN'T HAVE, AS WELL AS TRYING TO BE, SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN EVERYTHING.

A LOT OF IT HAD TO DO WITH STORMWATER AND THE SOILS.

BUT, WE ARE CERTAINLY LOOKING TO ADDRESS THAT BACK UP.

YEAH. AND WITH LEAVING THOSE ISOLATED TREES UP AND YOU SAW ONE FELL OVER BECAUSE THEY'RE UNPROTECTED PINTS AND THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO I DON'T THAT'S DONE.

IT'S IN THE PAST. YOU'RE WORKING ON IT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY FUTURE, DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE HIGHWAY, THE SAME THING DOESN'T HAPPEN.

AND WE HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS IN THIS.

OKAY, HOW ABOUT WHEN WITH THIS CORRIDOR OVERLAY AND WE GET TO PARTS OF 278 ARE JASPER COUNTY.

AND I'M PARTICULARLY THINKING ABOUT THE APARTMENTS THAT JASPER COUNTY HAS APPROVED ON 278.

AND FROM WHAT I SAW, THAT'S THEY'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT UP TO THE HIGHWAY.

THERE'S NOTHING THIS OVERLAY THAT CANNOT PREVENT THAT.

WE THIS IS A CITY OF HARDEEVILLE ORDINANCE.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY DO HAVE AN OVERLAY ON A HIGHWAY CORRIDOR OVERLAY, BUT I DO NOT HAVE ALL THE DETAILS OF WHAT THAT ENTAILS.

AND I DON'T WANT TO BEGIN TO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET DISTRACTED.

I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC.

NOW. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO COME FORWARD WITH THE.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, THE MS DO.

SEEING NONE.

I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH 2-1A.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE OUTLINE AS WE'VE DISCUSSED.

ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024.

DASH TWO, DASH ONE A, WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? I JUST HAVE A VERY QUICK COMMENT.

AND IT'S WITH DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC IN GENERAL IS CONCERNED ABOUT IS IT'S DONE WITH GOOD TASTE AND THOUGHTFULNESS, BECAUSE GROWTH IN MANY TIMES IS INEVITABLE.

I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A BOY GROWING UP, LADY BIRD JOHNSON GOT INVOLVED IN THE BEAUTIFICATION, AND THAT'S HOW OLD I AM.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS BECAUSE IF NOT, GROWTH BECOMES MORE OF A PROBLEM FOR FOLKS WITHOUT THIS THOUGHTFULNESS OF THE OVERLAY.

SO I'M GOING TO JUST TELL YOU THAT'S IMPORTANT AND CONTINUE TO DO THIS.

I THINK IT'S, IT HELPS WITH GROWTH IN GENERAL.

AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU HARRY. THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.

WITH THE SECOND READING WILL BE IN TWO WEEKS.

AYE. OKAY.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE.

[B. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO ADOPT A MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 26 ACRES, KNOWN GENERALLY AS MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE MULTIFAMILY LOCATED ON MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE (COASTAL LAND TRACT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT) AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN (2024-2-1B) PUBLIC HEARING]

CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO ADOPT THE MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 26 ACRES, KNOWN GENERALLY AS MEDICAL CENTER

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DRIVE MULTIFAMILY, LOCATED ON MEDICAL CENTER DRIVE.

AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN.

MR. CZYMBOR AND MISS WOODWARD WOODRUFF.

YES, WE HAVE MISS KATIE.

WOODWARD. TWO TOUGH NAMES TO SAY RIGHT AWAY, SAY NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

WE DO HAVE MISS KATIE TO PRESENT THE ITEM.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE, AND I THINK COUNCIL RECALLS WE DID HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS TO ANSWER ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

MISS KATIE, THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST KEEP THIS BRIEF.

THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 26 ACRES AND 360 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

THERE WERE LIMITED QUESTIONS AT THE WORKSHOP, BUT I DO HAVE CONNOR BLANEY FROM WARD EDWARDS HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR HIM.

GOOD EVENING, CONNOR BLANEY WITH WARD EDWARDS ENGINEERING.

GOOD EVENING. WELCOME BACK.

THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU GUYS.

WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ON THIS PROJECT.

IT'S AN EXCITING PROJECT.

I ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE, KYLE WEBB WITH, HILL POINT HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER DIRECTLY.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY, DIRECTLY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OR PROGRAMING.

OTHERWISE I'LL JUST OPEN IT STRAIGHT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

OKAY. MRS. GUZMAN. SHALL WE START WITH YOU? YES, SIR. I KNOW WE WENT INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE THE DIFFERENT BUFFERS THAT'S GOING TO GO AROUND.

SO JUST TO RECAP, IT'S A 25 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER AROUND THE WHOLE AREA.

OKAY. HOW MANY UNITS DID THEY SAY THIS WAS GOING TO BE, SIR? 360, 360.

OKAY. AND OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, YOU WOULDN'T KNOW THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT.

ARE THEY ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM? THREE BEDROOM? THE PRODUCT IS ALL TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM.

I DO NOT KNOW THE GENERAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH UNIT.

YEAH. THEY'RE NOTHING.

YEAH. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS KYLE WEBB, REPRESENTING HILLPOINT.

YET THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH UNIT, THEY'RE RIGHT AROUND.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S RIGHT AROUND, 1100 SQUARE FEET FOR EACH UNIT.

OKAY. AND THESE ARE ALL ONE STORY OR TWO STORY, THREE, THREE STORY BUILDINGS.

OKAY. YES, MA'AM.

AND THE ONLY OTHER REQUEST THAT I HAD WAS, AND I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT, SINCE THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY WITH CHILDREN, IS THE SIGNS FOR THOSE, BODIES OF WATER AROUND THERE, THAT'S.

AND LIKE THE MAYOR SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTS COME IN THAT THEY BE GIVEN IN THEIR INFORMATION PACKET THAT THEY SHOULD BE AWARE.

THAT'S RIGHT. CREEPY CRAWLIES IN THERE.

WE AND WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH POSTING SIGNAGE LIKE THAT.

YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR.

MR. WHITE, I WOULD JUST REITERATE THAT PRIME EXAMPLE IS MYSELF MOVING FROM ONE PART OF THE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER.

I DIDN'T KNOW A LOT OF THE UNIQUE FEATURES OF THE LOW COUNTRY AND SOME POSSIBLE DANGERS TOO.

AND IT'S EASY TO SORT OF LET THAT GO OVER YOUR HEAD.

SO I THINK THE YOU'LL DO A GOOD SERVICE TO EVERYONE THAT COMES TO YOUR PROPERTY TO GIVE THEM THAT KIND OF ORIENTATION AS WELL AS SOME OF THE DANGERS.

AND IF YOU DO THAT, I THINK WE'LL HAVE AN OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SAFETY RESULT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT ULTIMATELY.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE THESE ARE GOING TO BE MARKET RATE CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND I. I'VE ASKED THIS SO MANY PEOPLE, I FORGET WHETHER I ASKED YOU, BUT JUST IN CASE, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO SOME SET ASIDES FOR SPECIFIC TYPES OF WORKERS? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO A HOSPITAL.

PERHAPS THE HOSPITAL IS WANTS TO GIVE SOME SORT OF INCENTIVES FOR A CERTAIN GROUP OF HOUSING.

ARE YOU AMENABLE? AND KNOWING THAT? I HAVE NO DETAILS, BUT WE ARE WORKING ON PROGRAMS I JUST WANT TO HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US.

YES, SIR. IT DOESN'T MEAN OBLIGATE YOU TO ANYTHING.

RIGHT? RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN AND THE INTENT, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE JUST CAME BEFORE YOU WITH EARLIER, OR I GUESS LAST YEAR AT THIS POINT OFF OF, OKATIE HIGHWAY.

SO, YES, WE'LL BE OPEN TO CONTINUE TO SERVE, AND INCENTIVIZE THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE REALLY HERE TO BUILD RESIDENTS FOR.

GREAT. THANK YOU.

NOW, THE FUTURE POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL AREA IS ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE DRAWING.

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IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

I WAS I WAS LOOKING UP IN THE PLAN.

I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHERE THE GEOGRAPHY IS.

WHAT? THERE'S.

YOU HAVE AN ENTRANCEWAY INTO THAT COMMERCIAL AREA.

WHAT IS TO THE LEFT? HOW FAR AWAY ARE YOU FROM? THIS IS BEHIND, OR IS IT BEHIND? WHAT IS IT BEHIND? I BELIEVE THERE'S A HOTEL ADJOINING THE.

IT'S BEHIND FAIRFIELD INN AND HAMPTON INN, AND YOU CAN SEE THE EDGE OF THE PARKING OUTLINE DELINEATED.

OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THAT.

THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS NOT THE COMMERCIAL THAT WOULD BE FUTURE AND NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE HERE.

RIGHT. BUT WHAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT DOING NOW, WE HAVE THE HOSPITAL ACROSS THE STREET.

RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE, IN FRONT OF THOSE TWO HOTELS ARE STARBUCKS, TACO BELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMMERCIAL INTERESTS.

AND ACROSS THE HIGHWAY IS MCDONALD'S.

AND SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE WALKABLE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THOSE ENTRANTS OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT? IS THERE SOME SIDEWALKS OR BIKE PATHS OR WHATEVER THAT RESIDENTS COULD ACCESS THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT WE JUST INCLUDING YOURS, THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT? GREAT QUESTION. AS PART OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, IMMEDIATELY FOR THIS MULTIFAMILY OUTLINED IN RED IS ALL THE INTERCONNECTED SIDEWALKS.

WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED NOW IS TO EXTEND THE SIDEWALK COMPLETELY ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE UNDEVELOPED FUTURE COMMERCIAL PORTION WHICH WOULD CONNECT YOU. READING MY MIND ARE I THINK HE'S BEEN EXCELLENT.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH. SO GOOD ANSWER.

YOU GAVE THE RIGHT ANSWER.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I HAVE, SOME EMAILS FROM THE PUBLIC OR A EMAIL FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND I TOLD THEM I WOULD ASK HIS QUESTIONS.

CAN THE DEVELOPER SEE A WAY THAT THE 25 FOOT BUFFER BUFFER CAN BE INCREASED IN SIZE? AND I ASSUME HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT FACES I 95.

I ASSUME THAT'S BECAUSE HE SAYS THE MINIMUM 25 FOOT FOLIAGE BUFFER ALONG I 95 STILL SEEMS PROVIDES LITTLE SCREENING.

THAT'S HIS QUESTION.

AND CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THAT? WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE 25 FOOT BUFFER, BUT I'M SURE THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE WILLING TO ENHANCE IT WITH ADDITIONAL SCREENING EFFECTS.

THE BUFFER IS TO REMAIN UNDISTURBED, HOWEVER, WE COULD IMPLEMENT ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS TO FURTHER SCREEN IT.

I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THE 20 FOOT, FIVE FOOT BUFFER EXCEEDS WHAT THE SUPERSEDING PD REQUIRES, AND THE ACTUAL INTERSTATE IS A GOOD BIT IN, PAST THE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THE RIGHT OF WAY COVERS A GOOD BIT OF GREEN SPACE AS WELL.

OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO PURSUE THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I'M GOING TO INSIST ON UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE FROM THE COUNCIL DOES.

THE STORM PONDS ON THE EAST SIDE LOOK MORE SECLUDED THAN THE APARTMENTS DO.

CAN SOME POND CAPACITY BE MOVED TO RUN ALONG THE INSIDE OF THE I-95 BUFFER, SO THE APARTMENTS CAN BE BUILT EVEN FURTHER AWAY? SO WHAT HE'S ASKING IS ALONG THE I 95.

SEE THOSE LAGOONS? YOU PUT IT IN FRONT AND THAT AND THE APARTMENTS GO BACK AND IT RUNS ALONG, THE FRONT.

FROM A HYDROLOGY STANDPOINT, THE TOPOGRAPHY DRAINS, CENTRAL AND TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS PLANNED SOUTH, WHERE IT'S OUTLINED AS WETLANDS.

SO WE TRY TO LOCATE THE PONDS TO INTERCEPT THE STORMWATER PRIOR TO DISCHARGING OFF SITE.

AND THE THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE ISN'T CONDUCIVE FOR STORMWATER PONDS IN THE ASTER POND LOCATION.

KATIE. MR. BROWN, CAN YOU VERIFY THAT? IS THAT VERIFIABLE? AND I DON'T DOUBT YOU.

I JUST I'M ANSWERING THE THE PUBLIC.

YEAH. MR. MAYOR, I THINK WHAT, CONSULTANT JUST SAID THERE IS EXACTLY RIGHT THE WAY THEY'VE GOT IT LAID OUT THERE, FOR THE STORMWATER PONDS.

THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF FLOW FOR RUNOFF.

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SO IT'S GOING TO CAPTURE THERE BEFORE IT GETS RELEASED OUT TO OUR SYSTEMS. IF IT IF I HEARD IT CORRECTLY, THE INDIVIDUAL WANTS TO PUT THE PONDS PERHAPS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDINGS.

IS THAT CORRECT? MOVE THE BUILDINGS BACK.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO CAUSE, MORE ISSUES.

I THINK YOUR STORMWATER NEEDS TO FLOW NATURALLY AS POSSIBLE TO THE SOUTH, LIKE IT SHOWS HERE.

NOW, THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT REALLY THE FIRST QUESTION CAN WHAT CAN THE DEVELOPER OFFER THE CITY IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL PLANNING BERMS OR FENCING ALONG THE I 95 25 FOOT BUFFER? YEAH. WELL IN A, IN A CONRADI KIND OF SET IT A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN OUR INTENT WITH THIS PLAN, FOR AT LEAST A HALF OR, YOU KNOW, 50% OF THE, THE PROPERTY LINE, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING BUFFER THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS. AND THEN AND THEN SUPPLEMENT ANY KIND OF BARREN AREAS ALONG THE EXIT RAMP THAT COMES DOWN.

SO AGAIN, WE WE HAVE FULL INTENT TO ENHANCE, THE BUFFER TO PROVIDE SCREENING NOT ONLY.

FROM THE PUBLIC TOWARDS OUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT.

TOWARDS. TOWARDS THE INTERSTATE.

AND AGAIN TO ANSWER MR. COLEMAN'S, QUESTIONS.

AND THAT'LL BE BROUGHT UP AT THE SITE REVIEW COMMITTEE.

RIGHT, KATIE? OKAY, SO, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

I WANT TO THANK MR. ROBERT COLEMAN FOR, SENDING THESE QUESTIONS IN, THE, HE'S BEEN A REGULAR CONTRIBUTOR TO OUR PROJECTS, AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS.

AND THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC, WHO WANTS TO WEIGH IN WITH ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THIS IS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH 2-1B.

DO YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THIS ONE? GIVE YOU GUYS A BREAK? OKAY, I DIDN'T WANT TO SET THE RECORD FOR ORDINANCES TONIGHT.

OKAY, I'LL I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2024.

DASH TWO, DASH ONE B.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION.

WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC SEEING? NONE. I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS.