* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:10:29] UM, [00:10:32] WE'RE [00:10:32] GONNA START THIS AFTERNOON WITH THE INVOCATION PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE [I. INVOCATION & PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] BY MAYOR PROTE. BE WHITE, PLEASE RISE. DEAR FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANY BLESSINGS WE HAD AS A CITY. MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT ALL THE RESIDENTS. GIVE US WISDOM. SO HE SAID, SPECIAL BLESSING. WE COME UPON THE HOLIDAY SEASON FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME, FELLOWSHIP AND FAMILY REUNIONS. WE LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR OUR SERVICE. MEN AND WOMEN. I WAS TOLD FOR OUR SERVICE, MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE, UM, BUT FOUGHT AND DIED FOR OUR FREEDOM AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO SERVE AROUND THE WORLD, PROTECTING OUR WAY OF LIFE. THANK YOU. BUT STEVE, EVERYBODY, YOU WOULD THINK I KNOW THAT BY HEART. I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED, , WHO'S GETTING OKAY? AT LEAST I DIDN'T FORGET TO DO IT A LITTLE LATE, BUT RATE, UM, I'LL NOW CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS A [II. CALL TO ORDER] CITY OF HARDY, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, PUBLIC HEARING 2 0 5 MAIN STREET, HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA, DECEMBER 14TH, 2023 AT 2:00 PM OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA. [III. ADOPTION OF AGENDA] MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO OUR AGENDA TODAY? MEETING? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO WE APPROVE TODAY'S AGENDA. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. NOW, EXECUTIVE SESSION. DISCUSSION OF [IV. EXECUTIVE SESSION] NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSE CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND [A. DISCUSSION OF NEGOTIATIONS INCIDENT TO PROPOSED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AND PROPOSED SALE OR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY, THE RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE WHERE LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING, THREATENED, OR POTENTIAL CLAIM OR OTHER MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE, SETTLEMENT OF LEGAL CLAIMS, OR THE POSITION OF THE PUBLIC AGENCY IN OTHER ADVERSARY SITUATIONS INVOLVING THE ASSERTION AGAINST THE AGENCY OF A CLAIM IN ACCORDANCE WITH S.C. CODE OF LAW 30-4-70(A)(2). [PENNISULA TRACT] REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO START AT APPROXIMATELY 2:45 PM] PROPOSED SALE OR PURCHASE OF PROPERTY. THE RECEIPT OF LEGAL ADVICE WHERE LEGAL ADVICE RELATES TO A PENDING, THREATENED OR POTENTIAL CLAIM, OR OTHER MATTERS COVERED BY THE ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE, SETTLEMENT OF LEGAL CLAIMS, OR THE POSITION OF THE PUBLIC AGENCY IN OTHER ADVERSARY SITUATIONS INVOLVING THE ASSERTION AGAINST THE AGENCY OF A CLAIM IN ACCORDANCE WITH SOUTH CAROLINA CODE OF LAW. 30 DASH FOUR DASH 70 A TWO. WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE PENINSULA TRACK. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ENTER INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. WE ARE NOW IN, UM, . [00:56:44] UM, [00:56:45] WE'VE [00:56:45] ALREADY [00:56:45] STARTED [00:56:46] OUR [00:56:46] MEETING [00:56:47] AND, [00:56:47] UM, [00:56:48] WE HAD EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL NOW, UM, HAVE A MOTION TO RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. DO I HAVE A MOTION? PLEASE TAKE A MOTION. WE RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. WE ARE BACK IN, IN A REGULAR SESSION IN PUBLIC SESSION. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US. HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THE FIRST THING, THE NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA ARE PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND [V. PUBLIC COMMENTS (3 MINUTE TIME LIMIT)] WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE SIGNED UP, ONE OF WHICH I JUST ADDED MYSELF. UM, FIRST PERSON IS CLEO D LATEST. I'M SORRY. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. UM, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THESE, I HAVE TWO THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, IT HAS DOWN HERE, CAR TRACK ACCESS ROOM. YES. THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE TO BE, UM, DONE WHEN WE ARE ADDRESSING THAT TOPIC. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE, ARE FOR GENERAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I THOUGHT THE MEETING WAS STARTING AT TWO. AND I SPOKE TO MY REPRESENTATIVE WHO SITS ON THE CITY COUNCIL, AND HE SUGGESTED THAT I COME NOW BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE. I CANNOT WAIT. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. I WILL, I WILL ALLOW IT. BUT, UM, UH, WITH, WITH THE CONSENT OF COUNCIL IS COUNCIL, UH, OBJECT TO THAT IN ANY WAY. NO, THAT'S OKAY. OKAY. UM, I HAVE TO READ THE RULES AND THEN, UH, YOU NEED TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. WE ARE NOW ENTERING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS PORTION OF OUR MEETING. WE ASK THAT YOU DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE. WE WELCOME YOUR COMMENTS ON MATTERS. APPEARING ON THE AGENDA ARE THOSE THAT ARE WITHIN OUR CONTROL. SOME MATTERS ARE BETTER ADDRESSED TO COUNTY COUNCIL OR YOUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES. PLEASE AVOID PERSONAL TAXABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, CITY STAFF, OR COUNCIL MEMBER. BEING MINDFUL THAT THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE BEING BROADCAST AND ARE AVAILABLE TO BE HEARD BY CHILDREN AND OTHERS AT HOME WATCHING. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CLEO TI AND I LIVE AT 1 4 4 9 SHORESIDE DRIVE, UNIT 1 0 1 HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA 2 9 9 2 7. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA SAY THAT I AM BRINGING THIS PETITION, AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE PETITION FROM A NUMBER OF ARVA RESIDENTS AT BOTH LATITUDE LAKES AS WELL AS LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE. WE ALL LOVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE DO WANT, UM, MAR UH, MINTO TO CONTINUE AND BUILD ON THE CAR TRACK BECAUSE WE FEEL THAT IT'LL IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS, AND THAT IS THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL GO THROUGH LATITUDE, MARGARITAVILLE BOULEVARD THAT WILL GO FROM 2 78 TO 46. WE'RE, WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 YEARS OF BUILD OUT. AND THE NOISE, THE POLLUTION. I'VE HAD RESIDENTS IN PHASE ONE TELLING ME IN THE MORNING WHEN THE CEMENT TRUCKS ARE LINED UP AROUND 6 30, 7 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, IT IS SO NOISY, SO LOUD, SO MUCH POLLUTION, UH, THAT THEY'RE HEARING AND FEELING. AND, AND I THINK THIS DISTRESS IS [01:00:01] WE, WE MOVED TO THIS BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO ENJOY THE LOVE AND THE PEACE AND THE BEAUTY OF THAT AREA. AND MINTEL BUILDS A BEAUTIFUL HOME, YOU KNOW, AND I LOVE MY HOME, BUT I ALSO FEEL THAT THE TRAFFIC, UH, THAT WE MAY HAVE HAVE TO SUSTAIN FOR MAYBE EIGHT TO 10 YEARS OF THIS CONSTANT CONSTRUCTION TRUCK TRAFFIC. AND THE NOISE AND THE POLLUTION IS A LITTLE MUCH. SO WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY ASKING IS THAT OFFER 46 AND ACCESS ROAD BE BUILT WHEN THEY START IN THE, WITH THE CAR TRACK. I MEAN, I'M VERY HAPPY THEY'RE BUILDING TO 46, BECAUSE THAT GIVES US AN EXIT OUT OF HERE BESIDE THE ONE WE HAVE. SO WE ARE JUST ASKING THAT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, BUILDING, UH, AND, AND BUILDING ONTO THE CAR TRACK BY GOING THROUGH LATITUDE BAR MARGARITAVILLE TO TWO SEVEN, FROM 2 78 TO 46 IS REALLY, IT'S A LONG STRETCH OF TIME AND A LOT OF POLLUTION, A LOT OF NOISE, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT REALLY HAPPY. AND SO, UM, I, I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION. AND I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE PETITION TO YOU, IF THAT'S OKAY. MAYOR, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND HOW, UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SIGNATURES ARE ON THIS? I HAVE ABOUT 169. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE IN AGREEMENT SIGN NAME. SO OKAY. . AND YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK, THANK YOU. UM, NEXT WE HAVE, UM, I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF, UH, INTRODUCING MS. CAROL LEE EVANS OF THE SAVANNAH LAKES RV RES RESORT. AND I JUST WANNA PRE PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND I MET, UH, CAROL LEE LAST WEEK AS SHE CAME TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HEADQUARTERS AND GAVE A VERY NICE CHRISTMAS CHEER, AND I INVITED HER TO COME BY AND, AND INTRODUCE HERSELF TO THE COUNCIL. CAROL LEE, WELCOME. PLEASE, UM, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE, AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COUNCIL. WELL, AS HE MENTIONED, I'M CAROL LEE EVANS. I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER AT SAVANNAH LAKES RV RESORT. UM, I HAVE BEEN ON THE PROJECT FOR ABOUT NINE MONTHS NOW. UM, IN AND OUT, UH, LIVING ROOM, UH, WORKING OFFSITE MOST OF THE TIME, BUT WE'RE GETTING EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY OPEN SOON. UM, IT'S GONNA BE A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO COME OUT AND DO A TOUR, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. YOU CAN SET THAT UP DIRECTLY WITH ME. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO STOP IN AND SAY HELLO, AND WE WERE WELCOMED AND INVITED, UM, BY HARRY. AND, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, COUNSEL. UM, WELL, WE DON'T NORMALLY RESPOND AT PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO I, I'M, I DON'T WANNA BREAK THE RULES. I'M SORRY. . SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND INTRODUCING YOURSELF AND A LOT OF LUCK. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND THE, THE PERSON I ADDED, UH, IS WE ARE HAD THE PLEASURE THIS AFTERNOON OF BEING JOINED BY THE, OUR JASPER COUNTY STATE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, MR. BILL HAGER. AND BILL, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND, AND, UH, WELCOME. YOU HAVE TO STICK TO THE THREE MINUTES, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT ME TO BREAK THE DEAL FROM YOU. . UH, PLEASE COME INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TO THE COMMUNITY. I'M, UH, BILL HAGER HOUSE, SEAT 1 22. I ACTUALLY LIVE IN HAMPTON COUNTY, BUT I REPRESENT PARTS OF JASPER, WHICH INCLUDE HARDY V AND TALKING TO THE MICROPHONE, BILL, I'M GLAD TO, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE. AND, UH, THE COUNCIL KNOWS ME, AND I'M, I'M GLAD TO BE HERE TO MEET THE PUBLIC. UH, THEY HAD A, A LUNCHEON TODAY WITH, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS. I CAME DOWN AND ENJOYED TIME WITH THEM AND HAD A GOOD TIME. UM, ONE OF MY PREVIOUS LIFE, IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, I WAS AN ENGINEER WITH DOMINION ENERGY, AND THAT 46 ACCESS TO MARGARITAVILLE IS IMPORTANT TO US TOO. UH, FOR, UH, POWER, RELIABILITY, BACKUP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO FEED HER IN FROM THAT SIDE. AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO GET THAT DONE. SO WE'RE GLAD TO SEE SOME OF THAT HAPPENING. BUT, UH, THAT'S MY PREVIOUS LIFE. IF I CAN EVER BE OF ANY HELP, UH, I'M ALWAYS AVAILABLE. I ANSWER MY EMAILS AND TEXT MESSAGES, AND, UH, I'M GLAD TO REPRESENT YOU AS A FRESHMAN IN THE HOUSE. I'VE GOTTEN ON A LOT OF COMMITTEES AND, UH, WE GOT SOME BIG THINGS COMING THIS YEAR AND, AND, UH, EXPECT TO HAVE A BUSY YEAR. SO ANYTHING I CAN DO, I'LL BE GLAD TO, TO DO THAT. AND GLAD TO HELP IN ANY WAY. SO, THANKS. AND YES, SIR, APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MIKE DOMINION, . MIKE KNOWS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. WE'LL BE TALKING, WE'RE GONNA TAKE YOU UP ON THAT, UH, OFFER TO HELP. [01:05:01] OKAY. UM, NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. AND THE FIRST ONE WE ARE INTRODUCING THE BAILIFF. DONALD CARROLL. WHERE'S CARROLL? MY COUSIN? THAT, THAT NAME'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. MY COUSIN . IS THERE ANYBODY YOU'RE NOT RELATED TO ? VERY FEW JUDGE. NANCY GUTIERREZ. [A. INTRODUCTION OF BALIFF DONALD CARROLL] WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNSEL. YES. UH, I AM INTRODUCING YOU, UH, THE COURT, UH, BAILIFF, A SECOND ONE THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE MUCH NEEDED. AND COURT IS RUNNING SMOOTHER THAN EVER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, MR. DONALD CARROLL. HE CAME AS A RETIREE FROM JASPER COUNTY DETENTION CENTER FOR OVER 15 YEARS. AND YES, IT IS COUNCILMAN CARROLL'S COUSIN. SO, UM, I'M JUST GONNA LET HIM, UM, SPEAK AND, UH, WHATEVER HE WANTS TO SAY, BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM. THANK YOU. WELCOME. WELL, THANK YOU. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. AND LIKE I SAID, UM, I AM MR. CARROLL, AND IT'S, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO WORK ONCE AGAIN IN HARVILLE AND I'LL SHOW ENDEAVOR TO DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT THIS GOOD TOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME. COUNCIL, ANY, ANY WORDS, WELCOME, COME TO THANK YOU. WELCOME BACK. YEAH. THANK YOU GUYS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT HE'S BETTER LOOKING THAN YOU. YOU SEE OF THE REST OF THE FAMILY. I'LL BRING IT. UH, OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE HEARTBEAT OF HARVILLE AWARD. MS. PEG HARVEY. GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MARGARET HARVEY AND I LIVE AT 8 0 8 SUMMERTIME PLACE. PAST SEVERAL YEARS, I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE COMMITTEE THAT RECOGNIZES AN OUTSTANDING CITIZEN OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE AWARD IS CALLED THE HEARTBEAT OF HARVILLE. [B. HEARTBEAT OF HARDEEVILLE AWARD, PEG HARVEY] THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE MYSELF, CINDY WILLIAMS, STEVE MESMAN, AND ROBIN CONNOR PAYNE. THESE ARE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR A NOMINATION. MUST BE A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY IN GOOD STANDING. OVER THE AGE OF 21 CAN BE AN INDIVIDUAL, A BUSINESS COMMUNITY, OR A CHURCH. CITY EMPLOYEES, ELECTED OFFICIALS AND PREVIOUS WINNERS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE. THE NOMINATION WINDOW IS JANUARY 1ST THROUGH THE 31ST, AND THE NOMINATION FORM IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AND AT CITY HALL. THE SELECTION PROCESS INCLUDES A REVIEW BY THE COMMITTEE. ALL NOMINEES WHO MEET THE CRITERIA WILL BE CONSIDERED CRITERIA AND QUALIFICATIONS, HELPS NEIGHBORS AND FELLOW HARVILLE CITIZENS DEMONSTRATES HOSPITALITY AND IS RESPECTED BY THEIR PEERS, PROMOTES AND PRESERVES A SMALL TOWN ATMOSPHERE, STRIVES TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT BY IDENTIFYING AND FULFILLING A COMMUNITY NEED. THE WINNER WILL BE RECOGNIZED AND INTRODUCED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, IN LOCAL NEWS, AND OR PRESS RELEASES ADDED TO THE PLAQUE THAT'S IN, THAT'S, UH, IN THE CITY HALL AND RECEIVE A PROCLAMATION FROM THE MAYOR. THE RECOGNITION WILL BE GIVEN IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, AND ARE THOSE APPLICATIONS ON THE WEBSITE NOW? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, ANYBODY WHO HAS A NOMINATION, UM, THAT FITS THOSE CRITERIA, PLEASE GO ON THE WEBSITE AND, UM, OFFER YOUR NOMINATION. NEXT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023 [VI. PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS] REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. [C. FY23 AUDIT PRESENTATION & ACCEPTANCE, TREY SCOTT, MAULDINE JENKINS LLC] OH, I, I JUST WENT RIGHT PAST YOU, . THAT'S OKAY TOO. THAT'S OKAY. WE HAD THE SENIOR LUNCHEON, OBVIOUSLY I QUALIFY. AND SO, UM, THE, UM, NEXT WE HAVE NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER C, WHICH IS THE AUDIT, PRESENTATION AND ACCEPTANCE BY MR. TREY SCOTT. MR. SCOTT. SCOTT, SORRY FOR OH, NO PROBLEM AT ALL. MAYOR BUMPING AHEAD, COUNSEL. CERTAINLY HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL THIS EVENING. UH, I WAS THE PARTNER WHO OVERSAW THE AUDIT OF THE CITY'S 2023 FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL THIS AFTERNOON TO DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF THAT AUDIT. UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHY I'M HERE TODAY, GONNA INTRODUCE YOU TO MALTA AND JENKINS REALLY BRIEFLY. GO OVER YOUR, UM, INDEPENDENT AUDITOR'S REPORTS, YOUR COMPLIANCE REPORTS, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, [01:10:01] UH, GO OVER SOME REQUIRED COMMUNICATIONS, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY ANSWER ANY, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ABOUT THE AUDIT. REALLY QUICKLY ABOUT MALIN AND JENKINS FOUNDED OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, SERVE OVER 650 GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST. WE DO THIS ACROSS 13 OFFICES IN FIVE STATES. UH, PROVIDE OVER 135,000 HOURS ANNUALLY TO GOVERNMENTAL CLIENTS. UH, SO WE'RE CERTAINLY COMMITTED TO THE INDUSTRY. UH, BUT I THINK OF PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE TO YOU ALL IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT MALIN AND JENKINS, IT'S ABOUT YOUR AUDIT OPINION. I THINK, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE THE CITY'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, THIS BIG THICK DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE THAT'S PRINTED FRONT AND BACK, UH, ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY'S MANAGEMENT. IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS YOUR AUDITOR TO EXPRESS AN OPINION OR OPINIONS ON THAT FINANCIAL INFORMATION, UH, BASED ON OUR AUDIT. UM, WE DO THAT BY FOLLOWING GENERALLY ACCEPTED AUDITING STANDARDS AND GOVERNMENT AUDITING STANDARDS. UH, AND I'M PLEASED TO REPORT TO YOU ALL TODAY THAT WE ISSUED THE CITY A CLEAN OR WHAT WE CALL AN UNMODIFIED OPINION. UH, AND, AND WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS THAT YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS PRESENT FAIRLY, THE FINANCIAL POSITION AND THE RESULTS OF THE CITY'S OPERATIONS AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2023. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, CLEAN OPINION. IT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT I, I COULD PROVIDE TO YOU AS, AS YOUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR. ALSO, A COUPLE OF OTHER COMPLIANCE REPORTS. THE FIRST ONE, YOUR YELLOW BOOK REPORT, IF WE HAD ANY SIGNIFICANT ISSUES TO REPORT TO YOU, BIG AUDIT FINDINGS, THAT'S WHERE THOSE WOULD BE REPORTED. WE HAD NONE OF THOSE. UH, SO CLEAN OPINION, NO AUDIT FINDINGS, CERTAINLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, JOHN AND HIS TEAM, UH, CITY MANAGER AS WELL, UH, SHOULD, SHOULD, SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR. AND, AND, AND SOMETHING YOU ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF. UH, ANYTIME YOU SPEND MORE THAN $750,000 IN FEDERAL GRANT MONIES, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A SINGLE AUDIT OF YOUR MAJOR GRANT PROGRAMS. WE HAD TO DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR, UH, HAD NO FINDINGS OR ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THAT AS WELL. SO, UH, ANOTHER FEATHER IN YOUR CAP, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL. UH, MOVING ON FROM OUR REPORTS, WE'LL QUICKLY KIND OF COVER SOME NUMBERS. AGAIN, THESE ARE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2023. UH, A BUNCH OF NUMBERS ON THE PAGE, I, I UNDERSTAND. BUT, UH, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, YOU REALLY ONLY SEE THESE GOVERNMENT-WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ONE TIME A YEAR. AND IT'S IN THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE. YOU ALL ARE MORE APTT TO SEE YOUR FUND LEVEL INFORMATION LIKE THE GENERAL FUND AND, AND YOUR OTHER MAJOR FUNDS. UH, BUT IF EACH TIME EACH YEAR, WE LIKE TO LOOK AT THESE GOVERNMENT-WIDE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, KINDA LOOK AT THE, AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE WITH ALL OF YOUR FUNDS KIND OF ROLLED UP TOGETHER. UH, AND THAT'S A PRETTY IMPRESSIVE LOOKING BALANCE SHEET, UH, FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING 106 MILLION IN ASSETS OFFSET BY ABOUT 47 MILLION IN LIABILITIES. SO YOUR BOTTOM LINE, YOUR NET POSITION, AGAIN, THAT'S NOT CASH, JUST THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR ASSETS AND YOUR LIABILITIES, UH, OF ALMOST 60 MILLION OR 59 MILLION. SO THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY STRONG LOOKING BALANCE SHEET FOR, FOR THE GOVERNMENT WIDE SET OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. ALSO, OUR REVENUES EXCEEDED OUR EXPENSES THIS YEAR, ABOUT 7.7 MILLION. UH, SO THAT'S CERTAINLY A POSITIVE THING AS WELL. UH, THE CITY CERTAINLY IS CONTINUING TO GROW. UH, BUT I THINK IF WE MOVE ON FROM THOSE GOVERNMENT WIDE STATEMENTS DOWN TO YOUR FUND LEVEL, I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, OF INTEREST MAYBE TO YOU. THE GENERAL FUND LOOKS PRETTY GOOD AT, OR NOT PRETTY GOOD LOOKS, LOOKS REALLY GOOD AT, AT JUNE 30, UH, ABOUT 11 AND A HALF MILLION IN FUND BALANCE. FOUR AND A HALF MILLION OF THAT'S UNASSIGNED. UH, WE DID HAVE A SLIGHT DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE THIS YEAR IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT WE DID HAVE TO TRANSFER SOME AMOUNTS OUT, UH, TO OTHER FUNDS. AND THAT'S IN THAT THIRD TO LAST BULLET POINT THERE. UH, OFTENTIMES I GET ASKED, HOW HEALTHY ARE WE? YOU KNOW, UH, AND AUDIT'S NOT REALLY DESIGNED TO TELL YOU THAT, BUT THERE ARE PLACES YOU CAN LOOK. UH, AND ONE OF THE PLACES I LIKE TO LOOK IS HOW MANY MONTHS OF EXPENDITURES DO WE HAVE IN FUND BALANCE? AND YOU HAD ALMOST SIX MONTHS, ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS. AND THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BE. UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE RELY ON PROPERTY TAXES, RIGHT? TO HELP FUND A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. AND WE'VE GOT A WHOLE SIX MONTHS FROM JUNE 30 TO, TO BASICALLY, I GUESS FIVE MONTHS TO NOVEMBER, DECEMBER WHEN WE START COLLECTING THOSE PROPERTY TAXES AGAIN. SO WE NEED THAT FUND BALANCE TO KIND OF HELP US GET THROUGH, UH, TO THAT NEXT PROPERTY TAX CYCLE. SO I WOULDN'T SAY YOU HAVE TOO MUCH, I WOULDN'T SAY YOU HAVE TOO LITTLE, UH, AND THAT LEVEL IS MORE OF A, OF, OF A NUMBER THAT YOU ALL NEED TO DECIDE ON, BUT THAT'S A GOOD HEALTHY PLACE TO BE. AND THIS IS, I'M MORE OF A PICTURE PERSON THAN, THAN NUMBERS AND WORDS ON A PAGE. SO JUST KINDA LOOKING AT YOUR REVENUES, YOUR EXPENDITURES, AND THEN YOUR UNRESTRICTED FUND BALANCE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH. I MEAN, WE WERE LITTLE LESS THAN 15 MILLION IN 2019 AND ALMOST 20, ALMOST 27 AND A HALF MILLION IN 2023. SO, AND, AND EXPENSES ARE GOING UP AS WELL, EXPENDITURES ARE GOING UP AS WELL. SO AGAIN, GOOD HEALTHY CHANGES IN FUND BALANCE TOO. WE DID DIP DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I MENTIONED THAT SLIGHT DECREASE, BUT, UH, IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT GIVES ME ANY KIND OF KIND OF CONCERN. UH, BUT YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT WHAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE DOING IS REINVESTING IN THE CITY. AND WE CERTAINLY DID THAT THIS YEAR. THE TUNE OF ABOUT 5.3 MILLION, UH, PAID DOWN ABOUT 1.7 MILLION IN DEBT AS WELL. SO ANYTIME OUR CAPITAL ASSET BASE IS GROWING, OUR DEPRECIATION EXPENSE IS GONNA GO UP TOO. I MEAN, THAT'S NOT A REAL CASH OUTFLOW. UH, BUT IT'S A, IT'S AN ACCOUNTING NUMBER THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH, WITH, WITH THE, UH, WAY [01:15:01] YOUR, YOUR ASSETS ARE, ARE LOSING A LITTLE BIT OF VALUE EACH YEAR. AND THEN FINALLY, THINGS THAT I'M REQUIRED TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU ALL, UH, AGAIN, A CLEAN OPINION, NO AUDIT FINDINGS, NO MANAGEMENT LETTER COMMENTS. WE HAD NO DISAGREEMENTS WITH MANAGEMENT IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR AUDIT. UH, WE HAD NO, UH, UH, DIFFICULTIES IN DEALING WITH MANAGEMENT IN THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR AUDIT. AND, AND WE HAD NO UNCORRECTED MISSTATEMENTS. THERE WERE A FEW AUDITOR PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED TO THE ACCOUNTS OF THE CITY, BUT NO MISSTATEMENTS THAT HAVE GONE UNCORRECTED. UH, AND THEN FINALLY, WE ARE INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL OF THE APPLICABLE, UH, STANDARDS OF OUR PROFESSION. AND, UH, THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES WHAT I WANTED TO REPORT TO YOU ALL TODAY. UH, CERTAINLY IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SERVE THE CITY, AND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU IN THE FUTURE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. UM, STEVE, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK THIS, HE'S COVERED IT VERY WELL. AND WE HAVE A COPY HERE FOR US TO LOOK AT. VALERIE, NO COMMENT. UH, WELL, NO COMMENT JOHN? NO, SIR. NO COMMENT. OKAY. AND THIS IS, UM, ON THE WEBSITE NOW. UH, YES SIR. IT OR WILL BE, UH, TOMORROW AFTER YOU HOPEFULLY ADOPT IT THIS EVENING. OH, WE HAVE AFTER WE ADOPTED. SO FOR PUBLIC, ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED, THIS IS A VERY LENGTHY AND, AND DETAILED REPORT. LET READ. IT WILL BE, UH, I'M READING. IT WILL BE, UH, AVAILABLE AFTER WE APPROVE THIS AUDIT AND THAT YOU WANT US TO DO NOW, MIKE, OR THAT WOULD BE IN ORDER, SIR? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I NEED A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE AUDIT OF FISCAL YEAR 23. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FISCAL AUDIT OF 2023. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. A AYE, AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. NOW I CAN GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. UM, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION APPROVAL MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 16? MAKE A MOTION. WE APPROVE THE MINUTES [VII. A. PRESENTATION & APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 16, 2023, REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING] OF NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. ON TO OLD BUSINESS. [VIII. OLD BUSINES] SECOND, READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA [A. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND CHAPTER 13, “OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS” OF THE HARDEEVILLE CODE OF ORDINANCES (2023-11-16A) PUBLIC HEARING] TO AMEND CHAPTER 13 OFFENSES AND MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS OF THE HARDY CODE OF ORDINANCES. THIS IS 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 A. THIS IS SECOND AND FINAL READING. IT WILL BE ADOPTED IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL THIS EVENING. UH, MR. ZIBO, PLEASE. UH, SIR, MR. MS. MAINES IS GONNA HANDLE THIS ITEM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. UM, THE SECOND READING OF THIS DOCUMENT, UM, HAS SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED BACK IN HERE TO KIND OF CLARIFY, UH, EXAMPLES OF MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE SEVEN TO SEVEN. 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM UM, OPERATIONAL TIME THAT'S ALLOWED. AND THEN 7:00 PM TO 7:00 AM UM, THE OPERATION OF THOSE MACHINERY EQUIPMENTS OF THIS TYPE IS NOT ALLOWED. UM, AND IT GIVES A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICATION ABOUT SEEKING THAT LIMITED EXCEPTION EXEMPTION. UM, THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN REGARDS TO, UM, VERY LIMITED SITUATIONS OF, I THINK ONE OF THE EXAMPLES GIVEN WAS THE CONCRETE POURING THAT HAS TO START AT A CERTAIN TIME SO IT CAN SET BY THE END OF THE DAY, UM, OR VERY LIMITED, UM, TYPES OF, I BELIEVE LOGGING WAS THE OTHER EXAMPLE THAT WAS GIVEN. THAT HAS TO BE DONE. UM, I BELIEVE THOSE TREES HAVE TO BE HAULED OFF WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME OF BEING CUT OTHERWISE THAT, THAT, THAT WOOD CAN'T BE USED. UM, BUT THOSE TYPE OF ONE EXCEPTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, REQUESTED BY AN APPLICATION. THAT FORM WOULD HAVE TO BE FILLED OUT AND SUBMITTED. UM, AND THEN THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO GRANT THAT EXEMPTION IN WRITING. BUT WHAT THESE CHANGES DID DO IS JUST TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AT THE FIRST READING AND TRY TO INCORPORATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY CAN REGULATE. SO I THINK THIS COVERS THE THINGS THAT, THAT THE CITY IS ABLE TO REGULATE. THANK YOU. UH, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING WITH MR. CARROLL THIS TIME. NO, SIR. WE WENT OVER THIS PRETTY GOOD. AND, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. WHITE. I THINK JOHN SUMMED IT UP WELL, WE WE'RE IN DEPTH. AND I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. MRS. GUZMAN. [01:20:01] UM, I HAVE NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I THINK WE HAVE BEAT THIS DOG TO DEATH, SO NO QUESTIONS, SIR. I LIKE DOGS. . ME TOO. UM, POOR LAUGHING. MR. MR. MESMAN. I WANNA TALK ABOUT CATS INSTEAD. . UM, I MET WITH, UH, MS. MAINS EARLIER TODAY TO, SHE CLARIFIED THE CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. NO MORE QUESTIONS. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, WHICH ACTUALLY CAME UP EARLIER IN THE DAY AT THE LUNCHEON. UM, MRS. MAINS, UM, SOMEONE BROUGHT UP, AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GO BACK, UH, ASKED ME THE QUESTION, WHAT ABOUT SUNDAYS? IS THAT COVERED IN HERE? YEAH, IT'S, IT'S SEVEN TO SEVEN. EVERY WE, WE DID SUNDAYS, SO WE DIDN'T DISTINGUISH THE DAYS. THE QUESTION WAS DO WE ALLOW CONSTRUCTION ON SUNDAYS? YOUR CURRENT ORDINANCE ALLOWS IT, AND THIS ONE DOES TOO. UM, I, I WANNA THROW A QUESTION OUT TO COUNSEL. UH, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK OF IT. AND IF I HADN'T TALKED TO THIS ONE RESIDENT, I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT OF IT MYSELF. IS THAT SOMETHING IS WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION ON SUNDAY? WELL, WE GOT THIS OPPORTUNITY HERE TO, UM, CHANGE THIS ORDINANCE AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT. WELL, MAYBE IT'S, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE A DAY OF REST, MRS. MAINES, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO? YOU, YOU CAN REGULATE THE DAYS, BUT I WOULD ADVISE AGAINST PICKING A SPECIFIC DAY. UM, MOST, I, I LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE TYPE OF ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND THEY, THEY DON'T EXEMPT A DAY. UM, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A VERY, YOUR, YOUR POPULATION HERE IS A LOT MORE DIVERSE THAN IT MAY HAVE BEEN AT SOME POINT. SO I AGREE, I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK WE NEED TO RESEARCH THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION SINCE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING WHY, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE SOME, UM, REASONS WHY YOU, YOU CAN'T SPECIFY A DAY, BUT COULD WE SAY, ALRIGHT, ON SUNDAYS INSTEAD OF SEVEN TO SEVEN, IT'S 12 TO FIVE, PICK A NUMBER. COULD WE DO THAT? I, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT AS TO WHY. LIKE WHY ARE YOU DISTINCT? YOU, YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE A REASON FOR WHY YOU'RE DISTINGUISHING THAT TIME AS OPPOSED TO TREATING IT FAIRLY ACROSS THE BOARD. SO IF YOU, I I, I, I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO KIND OF SPECIFY WHAT THAT IS. OKAY. SO THIRD QUESTION. SO THAT THIS DOES PROCESS DOESN'T GET BOGGED DOWN. WE COULD APPROVE THIS TODAY AND THEN ASK YOU TO DO SOME RESEARCH. AND IF YOU FIND THAT THERE IS AN AVENUE OF ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS, WE CAN COME BACK. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. SO COUNSEL, YOU'VE HEARD HER ANSWERS, UM, TREAT IT ACCORDINGLY. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, UH, I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE PUBLIC THE CHANCE TO COME UP AND, UM, ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR MAKE ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THIS ORDINANCE. OKAY. SEEING NONE, I THEN WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 A. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT, UH, WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 A. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, WOULD, I WOULD LIKE, UH, MRS. MAINS, WOULD YOU DO SOME FURTHER RESEARCH INTO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AND GIVE THE ANSWERS TO COUNCIL PLEASE? THANK YOU. UH, NEXT IS THE SECOND READING OF AN [B. SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND CHAPTER 2 “ADMINISTRATION” OF THE HARDEEVILLE CODE OF ORDINANCES (2023-11-16C) PUBLIC HEARING] ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA. TO MEND CHAPTER TWO, ADMINISTRATION OF THE HARDY CODE OF ORDINANCES, 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 C MR. ZUMBA, PLEASE. YES, SIR. UM, THIS IS JUST SOME, UH, WHAT I CALL HOUSEKEEPING. THIS IS OUR, UH, CODE RELATING TO SPECIFYING DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE MAKING SOME MINOR CHANGES AND, AND SOME, UM, COM COMBINING OF A FEW DEPARTMENTS. WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION AT SECOND READING [01:25:01] OF ORDINANCE TWO, 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 C. OKAY. UM, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING NOW WITH MR. UZMAN. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. MS. GUZMAN, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, SIR. MR. WHITE? NO QUESTIONS MR. CARROLL. ALSO, WE, LIKE WE SAID, WE ASK A LOT ON THIS TOO. AND FOR THOSE IN THE PUBLIC, JUST TO REMIND YOU, WE DID HAVE A, A CON LENGTH, LENGTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. UH, WE ARE RESTRUCTURING, UM, SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, UH, TO MAKE THEM, UH, MORE ADAPTABLE TO THE NEEDS OF THE FUTURE. SO, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, UM, CONSIDERED FOR A WHILE AND IT IS, UH, WE THINK IT'S A POSITIVE THING FOR THE FUTURE. UM, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS MYSELF. SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE PUBLIC TO COME UP AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR GIVE ANY OPINIONS. SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. CAN I HAVE A, UH, WELL, LET ME HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, AND MAKE ANY CHANGES TO. THIS IS SECOND READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 C. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON SECOND READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH 11 DASH 16 C. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. NOW WE GO TO NEW [IX. NEW BUSINESS] BUSINESS. THIS IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF [A. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE SALE OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (FIRE STATION #82 SITE) (2023-11-2G) PUBLIC HEARING] HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE SALE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY OF HARDY. BILL. UH, THIS IS THE FIRE STATION NUMBER 82 SITE. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 11 DASH TWO G. MR. ZIBO, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, THIS IS OUR FIRE STATION THAT WE PURCHASED FROM. DO WE HAVE A MAP? WE HAVE A MAP IN THERE, I THINK. I BELIEVE WE DO. I THINK THAT'S A PRESENCE SITE. YES. AN A BOULEVARD FROM JASPER COUNTY IN 2000 AND WHAT DID WE 2003? I'M SORRY. YEAH, 2003 WE BOUGHT THE, NO, 2007, THE JASPER COUNTY BUILT THE STATION IN 2003. WE BOUGHT THE STATION IN 2007 WHEN WE HAD AN AGREEMENT FOR SERVICING PART OF JASPER COUNTY. UM, WE'VE DETERMINED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT THE STATION NO LONGER IS SUITABLE FOR OUR GROWING NEEDS. UM, SO WE HAVE RECEIVED AN OFFER TO SELL THE PROPERTY, UM, WITH THE, INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASE PRICE, UM, WHICH IS $1,525,000. WE WOULD LEASE BACK, UH, THE BUILDING FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEAR PERIOD IN ORDER TO BUILD AN ANOTHER FIRE STATION IN THE AREA THAT WOULD BE MORE SUITABLE FOR OUR NEEDS. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE COUNCIL PROVE, UH, AT FIRST READING THE SALE OF FIRE STATION 82 PROPERTY. UM, AND THEN WE'D WORK, OBVIOUSLY, UM, TO FIND A NEW LOCATION AND SECURE, UH, BUILD A NEW FACILITY. THANK YOU. UM, MR. CARROLL LEAD US OFF TODAY. UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE FOR MIKE, I GUESS, UM, I SEE THE PRICE MM-HMM, , AND IT SOUNDS GOOD. FIRST OF ALL, IS, IS THAT A GOOD PRICE? AND SECOND OF ALL, UM, I, I GUESS THAT'S A GREAT THING. THEY LET US USE THE BAY AREA FOR STORAGE. UM, CAN YOU KIND OF TALK TO US ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. SO, SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE A, UM, THERE'S A LIVING QUARTERS AND SOME OFFICE AREA THAT WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, MOLD AND OTHER ISSUES. SO WE HAVEN'T USED THE, UH, A PORTION OF THE BUILDING FOR SOME TIME. BUT THE CITY PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED A MOBILE HOME IN WHICH THE, UH, FIRE PERSONNEL, UH, LIVE. AND WE USED THE BAY AREA. OBVIOUSLY THE BAY AREA WAS, WAS NOT IMPACTED BY SOME OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS. UM, SO PART OF THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WAS THE NEGOTIATION OF THE LEASE FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD, WHICH COULD BE EXTENDED. UM, AND THEN THE PERSON, THE COMPANY THAT'S PURCHASING THE, UM, STATION WOULD REMEDIATE AND REMODEL THE OFFICE LIVING QUARTER PORTION, UM, OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS. AND THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RENT THAT THAT OUT AFTER IT WAS REMEDIATED. UM, SO LOOKING AT THE COST, UM, THAT, THAT NOT THE COST, THE PURCHASE PRICE FOR THE FACILITY, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE, UM, UH, LEASE VALUE, UM, I, I THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD [01:30:01] DEAL. WE DID, WE DO HAVE A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT THAT DID COMPARABLES FOR PROPERTY THAT WAS BOUGHT AND SOLD IN THE AREA. UM, AND I, I THINK WE'VE GOT A, A RELATIVELY GOOD DEAL FOR WHAT WE PAID AS WELL AS OUR USE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS OF THE FACILITY. ALRIGHT, MR. WHITE, NO QUESTIONS. JOHN HIT ON THE QUESTION I HAD AND THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER, MIKE. MRS. GUZMAN, NO QUESTIONS, SIR. MR. MANN? OH, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION, MIKE, COULD YOU BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED ON NOT ONLY THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITHIN THE BUILDING, BUT THE EXTERNAL ISSUES THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD TO FACE TO BRING THE BUILDING IN COMPLIANCE? UH, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL THE ISSUES, BUT THERE, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES RELATING TO, UM, WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT, IT WAS, IT WAS, UH, IT, IT DOESN'T MEET THE CURRENT BUILDING CODES FOR USE OF A FIRE DEPARTMENT OR EMERGENCY FACILITY. SO TO BRING, TO BRING THE, UH, BUILDING UP TO CODE AS WELL AS DEAL WITH SOME OF THE, UH, FLOODPLAIN ISSUES AND ELEVATION ISSUES. IT WAS THE, THE BUILDING IS NOT, UM, IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE TO REMEDIATE AND REBUILD ON THAT SITE. SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY SELLING IT. NOW ANY OTHER NON-PUBLIC SAFETY USE DOES NOT MEET CERTAIN BUILDING CODES AND OTHER, UM, FLOODPLAIN CODES RELATING TO OCCUPANCY AND REBUILDING OF THAT BUILDING. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE, UM, ARE ELECTING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SELL THE PROPERTY AND HOPEFULLY FIND A SUITABLE LOCATION IN THE GENERAL VICINITY TO KEEP SERVING OUR CUSTOMERS AND RESIDENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MIKE. UM, WE'RE GONNA RENT THIS BACK FOR TWO YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND WHAT WILL BE, UM, OUR ANNUAL RENT ON THE BUILDING? SO THE RENT IS INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASE PRICE. SO AGAIN, I I OH, OKAY. SO WE DON'T WANNA GO INTO THE NEGOTIATIONS, BUT RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE NET. SO THAT'S THE NET NET. SO WE WILL, WE WILL NET 1,000,005 NET PLUS PLUS THE TWO YEARS OF LEASING. WE ARE INCLUDED IN THE COSTS. YES, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS, SO, UM, IT'S GOOD TO SEE THIS IS FINALLY GOING THROUGH. UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE PUBLIC, ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, APPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 11 DASH TWO G. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH 11 DASH TWO G. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. SECOND READING WILL BE IN JANUARY. NOW WE GO TO FIRST READING OVER ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE SALE PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF HARDY V, UH, ON THE HARDY COMMERCE PARK. THIS IS LOTS EIGHT, NINE, AND [B. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE SALE OF PROPERTY OWNER BY THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (HARDEEVILLE COMMERCE PARK LOTS 8, 9 AND 14) (2023-12-14B) PUBLIC HEARING] 14. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 B. MR. ZIBO, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO, AND I THINK MY SPARE TIME, I'M A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT. I'M, THE PROBLEM IS I DON'T GET ANY COMMISSIONS. I DO ALL THE WORK AND I DON'T, I DON'T GET ANY COMMISSION, BUT THAT'S OKAY. NO, IT'S ALL PART OF THE JOB. AND I, AND I'M IN, JUST SO THIS IS, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY, UH, THRILLED THAT WE'RE, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL KNOWS WE'VE BEEN WORKING LONG AND HARD TO, TO, UM, TAKE A GREENFIELD THAT WE RECEIVED FROM STRATFORD LAND MANY YEARS AGO AND TURN IT INTO A, HOPEFULLY EMPLOYMENT CENTER AND COMMERCE CENTER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE DID RECEIVE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS OF GRANT, UH, PROCEEDS. AND WE HAVE BUILT OUT THE, THE ROAD WE PUT A NEW ROAD IN AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND, AND WE'VE, UH, OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS SOLD ALL THE PARCELS. SO THIS IS THE LAST THREE REMAINING PARCELS IN THE, IN THE HARDY COMMERCE PARK. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL SELL, UH, LOTS EIGHT, NINE, AND 14, WHICH WOULD BUILD OUT THE, UM, COMMERCE PARK. AND WE'RE EXPECTING OVER 1.2 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF, OF BUILDING AND, AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD EMPLOYMENT FOR OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS. SO WE RECOMMEND ADOPTION OF, OF THIS ORDINANCE APPROVING THE SALE OF LOTS, EIGHT, NINE, AND 14. THANK YOU, MIKE. UH, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING WITH MR. MESMAN THIS TIME. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS, SIR. MR. WHITE? [01:35:01] NO QUESTIONS MR. CARROLL? NO QUESTIONS. OKAY, GREAT. UM, AGAIN, FOR THE EDIFICATION OF THE, UM, PUBLIC, AND I PROBABLY SAID THIS BEFORE, UH, WHEN MIKE JOINED THE, UH, THE CITY EIGHT YEARS AGO, THIS WAS PROPERTY THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY YEARS AGO. UH, AT SOME POINT THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION OF TURNING THIS INTO A, UH, MULTI FIELD SPORTS TOURISM CENTER. UM, BUT IN THE END WE DECIDED TO TURN THIS INTO A COMMERCE PARK. NOT ONLY DOES, AS MIKE SAID, BRING JOBS, UH, FOR THE LOCAL AREA, BUT BASICALLY BECAUSE IT WAS GIVEN TO US, WE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGH A LOT OF GRANTS, THROUGH THE RURAL INFRASTRUCTURE AUTHORITY. THE EDA GAVE US GRANTS AND THE ROADS WERE MOSTLY DONE WITH THE TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX THAT WAS PASSED IN 2016 BY JASPER COUNTY. SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THIS 135 ACRE LOT IS ALL PROFIT. AND SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE DECIDED TO, UH, START A LAND ACQUISITION FUND SO THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE PROFITS FROM THIS, PUT IT IN THIS FUND, AND HAVE THIS CACHET OF MONEY TO TAKE ADVANTAGES OF ANY PURCHASES OF LAND THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE COULD REINVEST AND, AND TURN THAT INTO A, UM, UH, A PROFIT CENTER OR POTENTIALLY, OR, UH, A CENTER OF OF CITY USE THAT WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE TO ONE OF OUR OBJECTIVES. SO THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT PROJECT COMPLIMENTS TO, UH, MR. ZIBO AND STAFF WHO WORKED ON THIS OVER THE PAST HOW MANY YEARS. AND, UM, IF YOU GO OUT THERE, THERE'S LAND BEING CLEARED RIGHT OFF I 95 AND IT'S A GREAT THING. SO, UM, THANK YOU MIKE AND STAFF. UH, HAVING SAID THAT, NOW I WILL OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT, ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE DO SO AT THIS TIME, SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 B. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 B. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. SECOND. READING WILL ALSO BE IN JANUARY NEXT. UM, JESUS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY CAME HERE TO, TO BE. OKAY. THIS IS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING [C. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 2,231 ACRES KNOWN GENERALLY AS KARRH TRACT AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (2023-12-14C) PUBLIC HEARING] OF APPROXIMATELY 2200 ACRES KNOWN GENERALLY AS THE CAR TREK AND AMENDING THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 C. NOW THERE ARE, UH, A COUPLE OF ORDINANCES ATTACHED THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH TODAY THAT ARE ALL REGARDING, UM, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. UM, THE SECOND ORDINANCE IS THE MASTER PLAN, UM, AND THE THIRD ORDINANCE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE OWN LANDOWNER. SO WHAT I ASK THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVE INDIVIDUAL ASK ALL YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AT ONE TIME, YOU CERTAINLY WILL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY AS WE VOTE ON EACH INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCE, BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EFFICIENT IF WE GET ALL THE QUESTIONS OUT ALL AT ONE TIME. SO, HAVING SAID THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MR. ZIBO WHO LOOKS LIKE HE'S GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MS. WOODRUFF. YEAH. SO JUST BRIEFLY, SO MS. WOODRUFF, WE'RE GONNA, SHE'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE, UH, MASTER PLAN. AND THEN MR. DAVIS WILL DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS HERE, AND I KNOW THEY WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AS WELL. SO, MS. WOODRUFF, [01:40:01] SO I, I'M GOING TO KEEP MINE BRIEF. UM, WE DID HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW ON BOTH SEPTEMBER 13TH AND OCTOBER 27TH OF THIS YEAR, FOLLOWED BY THE WORKSHOP ON NOVEMBER 9TH. UM, AS A REMINDER, THIS IS FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AMENDMENT FOR 2,231 ACRES KNOWN AS THE CAR TRACK AND AN INITIAL MASTER PLAN. UM, AND I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION IF YOU WANT THAT BEFORE OR AFTER MR. DAVIS'S PRESENTATION. OKAY. UM, COUNSEL, GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION. SO THE COUNSEL AND THE WAY THE PUBLIC, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THEY'LL KNOW WE'LL HAVE THIS AS BACKGROUND. YEAH, NO, THERE WE GO. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW'S EVERYBODY DOING? YEAH. AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? LAMAR. MERCER THOMAS AND HU CHEERLY. GOOD AFTERNOON AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU. UH, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US GOOD AFTERNOON IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN PRESENTING. UM, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AGAIN TODAY FOR THE, UH, ZONING AMENDMENT AND INITIAL MASTER PLAN FOR THIS PROJECT. DID WANNA REINTRODUCE THE APPLICANT TEAM, UH, LEADING THE MENTO. APPLICANT TEAM IS MR. DUTCH ELLER, SEATED BEHIND ME, VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT, ALONG WITH MR. DENNIS CHURCH, UH, STEVEN YUKI AND DOUG ALFORD. UH, WE ALSO HAVE SARAH ROBERTSON WITH BERT FORMAN HERE IN ATTENDANCE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. UH, JONATHAN GUY WITH KIMLEY HORN IS HERE TO ADDRESS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO TRAFFIC. UH, WE ALSO ASKED, UH, ALEX SWEENEY WITH BROCKINGTON AND ASSOCIATES, THE CONSULTANT WHO PERFORMED THE CULTURAL RESOURCE ANALYSIS TO BE HERE SINCE WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S A SUBJECT OF, UH, CONCERN. SO I DID GO BACK THROUGH TODAY AND THINGS KIND OF SHOCKED ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S, IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW COLLABORATIVE AND THOROUGH THIS WHOLE EFFORT HAS BEEN. WE'RE ON VERSION 17 OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT DOCUMENT, AND THAT DOES GO BACK AND INCLUDE THE PRIOR APPLICANT TO BRIDGE BLUFF THAT HAD FIVE OR SIX VERSIONS IN ITSELF, AND ALSO THE EIGHTH VERSION OR NINTH VERSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED A LOT, AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS AND COMMENTS RELATED, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. SO DID WANNA THANK YOU PLAN, COMMISSION, STAFF, UM, AND THE COMMUNITY FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. 'CAUSE WE DO REALLY BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN A THOROUGH AND A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT TO GET TO THIS POINT. DID WANNA ALSO MENTION TO EVERYBODY, 'CAUSE I, I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THIS TOO, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROCESS BACK IN 2021. AND IN 2022, REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TWO BRIDGE BLUFF. WE DID GO THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE ANNEXATION ANALYSIS TO REALLY LOOK AT AND VET A LOT OF THESE ISSUES THAT INCLUDED ENVIRONMENTAL TRAFFIC, CULTURAL, RACE. A LOT OF THESE THINGS DID COME, COME ABOUT AT THAT TIME. UM, SO THIS HAS, THIS HAS BEEN, UM, REVIEWED AND JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY DID UNDERSTAND THAT DOCUMENT DID EXIST IN PROCESS DID OCCUR. SO, GETTING TO WHERE WE ARE, WE DO FEEL LIKE THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY, UH, DEMONSTRATE THAT, UH, IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT. THE, THE PLAN THAT EXISTS RIGHT NOW WAS A FANTASTIC, IT WAS A, A VERY MEN, IT WAS A VERY WELL NEGOTIATED DOCUMENT THAT INCLUDED THE DENSITY REDUCTION AT THE ONSET. WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT DOWN TO THE 2,620 DUS THAT CURRENTLY ARE APPROVED IN THE, IN THE PDD. AND WE DO WANT TO SHOW, AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN VARIOUS INFORMATION THAT DOES YOU, WE BELIEVE THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT, UH, OF THE DOCUMENT THAT EXISTS NOW. UM, I THINK I'LL FAST FORWARD, UM, JUST TO KINDA GO THROUGH 'EM BRIEFLY. UM, THIS DOES ALLOW FOR VIABLE EXPANSION OF LATITUDE. MARGARITAVILLE, OF COURSE, THERE'S TRACKS TO THE, TO THE EAST, THERE IS THE GREAT SWAMP, WHICH THE WEST, WEST WOULD'VE BEEN THE MORGAN TRACK. BUT REALLY THIS JUST ALLOWS REALLY FOR A CONTINUATION OF TRAFFIC CONNECTIONS AND UTILITY CONNECTIONS AND JUST A NATURAL PROGRESSION DOWN TO, UH, TO HIGHWAY 46, YOU KNOW, LEADS INTO THE, THE VEHICULAR, UM, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE, TOWARD THE ROUTES, WHICH IS PART OF THE OVERALL REGIONAL PLANNING, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE AREA. UM, AS A REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED EARLIER, IT DOES ALLOW AND PROVIDE FOR UTILITY SERVICES TO CONTIN, UH, CONTINUE AND EXTEND DOWN TO 46 THAT CREATES THE LOOPS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR ELECTRIC, UH, GAS, WATER, AND SEWER, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. WELL, THE, ORIGINALLY THE EXISTING APPROVED DOCUMENT, UM, IF YOU RECALL, HAD THE EMS SITE LOCATED ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE MORGAN TRACK THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND BECAUSE IT IS CONNECTED AND WILL BE A, A NATURAL EXTENSION OF, UH, MARGARITAVILLE'S EXISTS, THE MSS SITE WAS MOVED ONTO THE BOULEVARD SECTION, SO IT PROVIDES IN A MORE CENTRAL LOCATION, BUT THROUGHOUT THE WAY THE PLANNING OCCURRED, IT ALSO ALLOWS A CONNECTION BACK THROUGH THE MORGAN TRACK FOR EMS CONNECTION SERVICES. UM, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOUGH, CLICK BACK AND [01:45:01] DO THIS, UH, THIS TOO FAR. SORRY, JUST USE THAT ONE THERE. THIS DOES PROVIDE A CONNECTION BY 1500 RESIDENTS, AN ALTERNATE CONNECTION, UH, FOR EGRESS OUT OF EXISTING MARGARITAVILLE, WHICH RIGHT NOW OCCURS IN THIS AREA. ONCE CAR IS COMPLETED, IT WILL ALLOW ANOTHER CONNECTION DOWN ALONG TO THE BOULEVARD. SO THERE'S TWO POINTS OF EGRESS FOR THAT COMPONENT. WE'LL POINT OUT TO, UH, AGAIN, CONSIDERING THIS TODAY, UH, AND WE'LL ALSO CONSIDER THE, THE PDD AS WELL AS INITIAL MASTER PLAN, BUT THIS IS NOT THE LAST STEP IN THE APPROVAL PROCESS. THIS HAS TO GO THROUGH SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING PROCESS THROUGH CITY STAFF FOR EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT. UM, IT DOES HAVE THE PARK SITE LOCATED, AND ANOTHER THING IS KIND, IT'S MOVED THE PARK SITE THAT WAS INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE DOWN ONTO 2 46. SO IT'S EASIER TO QUICKLY ACCESS. UM, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THIS WHOLE THING IS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, WHICH HAS BEEN THE FOCUS SINCE THE ONSET PLAN, UH, AS IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED BY THE APPLICANT, DOES REDUCE THE WETLAND IMPACTS BY 40%. THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE CHANGE. UM, SO THAT, AND IT WAS NOT EASY TO ACCOMPLISH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S 85 VERSIONS OF THE MASTER PLAN TO GET TO THAT POINT. UM, AS REFERENCED EARLIER, THERE ARE TWO CULTURAL RESOURCE SITES INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. THEY'RE, THEY WILL BE PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY. THERE ARE CURRENTLY ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE AUTHORITIES HAVING JURISDICTIONS, AND THERE'S A LOT OF COOPERATING AGENCIES BEING THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, D HG, AND STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE. SO THOSE ARE CONTINUING ON AND WE HAVE TO, TO DEFER TO THEM FOR THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO HANDLE SITES. BUT DO WANT TO POINT OUT, ONE OF THE SITES IS COMPLETELY WITHIN A WETLAND, AND BOTH OF 'EM ALREADY DO SHOW A CURRENTLY A 50 FOOT BUFFER AROUND THOSE, UM, TRIPS. TRAFFIC GENERATION BECAUSE OF THE APPLICANT AND THE DEMOGRAPHIC. THIS IS AN AGE RESTRICTIVE COMMUNITY. AS THE CURRENT, AS THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED, THERE ARE, THERE'S NONE OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS ON IT. SO BY THIS CHANGE, IT REDUCES THE TRIP COUNT FOR TRIP, UH, TRAFFIC GENERATION BY 50%, WHICH OBVIOUSLY REDUCES LOADING ON THE EXTERNAL ROAD NETWORK. UM, IN THE PUD KIMLEY HORNET HAS BEEN ENGAGED AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED COSTS FOR THESE IMPACTS AND MINTO AS AGREED AND IS WILLING AND WILL PERFORM ANY OF THE CONNECTIONS SUCH AS THE ONES AT 2 78 AT THE FRONT ENTRANCE. ANY OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY WILL PROVIDE THOSE AT THE ONSET OF THIS PROJECT ONCE PHASE ONE IS STARTED IN THE BOULEVARD. UM, ANOTHER BIG COMPONENT TO THIS TOO IS THE FACT THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS IT EXISTS RIGHT NOW IS APPROVED, DOES NOT HAVE ANY TRANSPORTATION FEES INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. MINTO HAS AGREED TO INCORPORATE $4 MILLION WORTH OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR FEES THAT WE CAN GO TOWARDS REGIONAL IMPROVEMENTS. AS FAR OF THIS APPROVAL, UH, AS I MENTIONED, JUST KINDA GO BACK THROUGH THESE, WELL, THE TOP ONE, UM, THE CONNECTION TO 46, UH, THEY HAVE AGREED THROUGH SOME CONVERSATIONS TO, UH, THAT'S A BIG ONE RELATED TO CONSTRUCTION ROAD TO MAKE THE CONNECTION TO HIGHWAY 46 BEFORE THE FIRST BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED IN FOR THE PHASE THREE AREA. AND I THINK HAVE IT, I CAN PULL IT BACK UP. I THINK EVERYBODY'S FAIRLY FAMILIAR. THE PLAN IS TO START THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE EXISTING END OF LATITUDE AT THE EXISTING BOULEVARD SECTION AND CONTINUE DOWN PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO INTO THE CAR TRACK. AND PHASE THREE WOULD BE THE BOTTOM SECTION THAT CONNECTS INTO HIGHWAY 46. SO WE START PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, BUT PRIOR TO A BUILDING CONNECTION OR A BUILDING PERMIT BEING ISSUED, THE PHASE THREE CON OF THE THE BUILDING, THEIR CONNECTION WILL BE COMPLETED TO HIGHWAY 46. UM, THERE WAS QUESTIONS AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS DISCUSSED ME TWO HAS AGREED TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS ON ONE SIDE OF ALL RESIDENTIAL ROADWAYS. UM, THE CONCERN AND, AND THE, THE CONSTRUCTION ACCESS ROAD, YOU KNOW, IT KINDA GETS BROKEN UP IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, BUT MEANT THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN, UH, MADE MEANT ALL LOGGING TRUCKS, INITIAL PRE-DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, THE HEAVIER, UM, TRUCKS EQUIPMENT WILL COME IN FROM THE HIGHWAY 46 SIDE. YEAH. UM, IS ALSO RECOGNIZED THROUGH SOME OF THIS, UH, THROUGH SOME OF THIS PROCESS. UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE, YOU'RE IN, IN THE ABSORPTION, WE'RE IN THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE FOR BUILD OUT WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS ESTIMATED FOR EXISTING MARGARITAVILLE 2031. WELL, THAT HAS BEEN ACCELERATED DUE TO CURRENT ABSORPTION RATES AND ANTICIPATED TO CONTINUE THAT WAY. THAT CAR WILL BE COMPLETED ONLY ONE YEAR LATER THAN THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE OF THE ORIGINAL OVERALL MARGARITAVILLE. SO, UM, DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE [01:50:01] THAT POINT. UM, AS DISCUSSED THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND THROUGH WORKSHOP, THE, THE, THE BOULEVARD SECTION THAT CONTINUES DOWN FROM EXISTING MARGARITAVILLE, UH, WE ENDED UP GOING BACK AND ADDED A, ADDING SOME PAVEMENT TO THE BOULEVARD SECTION, WHICH IS THE BOULEVARD WITH A LANE ON EACH SIDE AND MAKING THAT 15 FOOT OF PAVEMENT AND TO MATCH. AND IN ORDER TO, AND DOING THAT, IN MATCHING THE SECTION FROM THE ROUNDABOUT SOUTH TO HIGHWAY 46, THIS IS A 15 FOOT LANE SECTION ALSO, UM, THAT NORTHERN SECTION BETWEEN THE EXISTING BOTTOM SECTION OF MARGARITAVILLE AND DOWN TO THE ROUNDABOUT WILL INCLUDE A 10 FOOT MULTI-USE PATH. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, BOTTOM, UH, BULLET POINT, UH, INTO HAS AGREED TO ALSO INSTALL A FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK IN ROUNDABOUT DOWN THE HIGHWAY 46 FOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. UM, THOSE ARE HIGH POINTS. ARE YOU LIMITED FOR TIME TODAY? SURE. YOU'RE READY TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK AND WANT TO GET TO THAT. UM, DUST. DID I, DID YOU WANT TO GAIN ANYTHING ELSE OR JUST THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, WE WILL NOW, UM, THE PROCESS FOR THOSE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS, UH, UP HERE, THE COUNCIL, GET ALL THE COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS ASKED. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC AND, UM, AND WE'LL, WE'LL GO FROM THERE. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY APPROPRIATE THAT WE START THE QUESTIONING WITH, UH, MR. MESMAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU LAMAR STAFF FROM, UH, MINTO, IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE AT. I JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. UM, JUST, AND THEY'RE NOT CONCERNS, THEY'RE JUST THINGS THAT WE'D, UH, LIKE TO KNOW. UM, WILL THERE EVENTUALLY BE A TIMELINE AND SUFFICIENT NOTIFICATION OF THE SEWER LINE INSTALLATION IS THAT MAY BE A BIT DISRUPTIVE TO THE RESIDENCE IN THE CURRENT MARGARITAVILLE? I, UH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT, AND I, I FAILED. IF YOU DON'T HAVE, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO ME, DON'T, BUT AS LONG AS NOTIFICATION IS GIVEN TO THE RESIDENTS, I THINK THAT'LL BE NECESSARY A TIMELINE FOR THAT. SURE, SURE. AND IT DID, AND IT'S A GREAT POINT, AND I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD THIS, BUT I DIDN'T, I SHOULD HAVE POINTED THAT ALSO. THE, THE, THE, IT WILL BE A FORCE MAIN AND POTENTIALLY A WATERLINE. AND NEITHER ONE OF THOSE INCLUDE GOING DOWN, DESTROYING, OPENING UP THE LANES THAT ARE THERE. THOSE LANES IN THAT TRAFFIC WILL CONTINUE TO FLOW JUST LIKE IT IS. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LOCATE 'EM AS FAR OFF THE SHOULDERS OR IN THE SHOULDERS AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S OTHER UTILITY WE'LL HAVE TO AVOID ALSO. OKAY. THERE ARE CROSSINGS, IT'S ITS STREET INTERSECTION. SURE. I AM, UH, I AM VERY GLAD TO SEE THAT THE AGREEMENT FOR, UH, THE LOGGING AND THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT IS NOT GONNA BE ON LATITUDE. IT'LL USE STRYKER UNTIL THEY CAN USE ACCESS THROUGH THE 46 LANE THERE. UM, YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE TWO HISTORIC SITES, UH, FSS EIGHT AND, UH, FSS 13. BOTH OF THOSE SITES HAVE SIGNIFICANT AR UH, ARCHEOLOGICAL ARCHEOLOGICAL VALUE. AND YOU SAID THAT YOU'LL WORK WITH THE AGENCIES THAT DO THAT. IF AN AGENCY WANTS TO COME FORWARD, OR A GROUP THAT WANTS TO COME FORWARD TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH, UH, THE FSS EIGHT SITE TO, UH, UH, BETTER PRESERVE IT, SAY IF THEY WOULD COME UP WITH AN IDEA TO BE ABLE TO FENCE IT OFF OR SOMETHING TO THAT MATTER, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT SITE, WOULD YOU, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT WHERE THERE WOULDN'T BE OPPOSITION TO THAT. IT WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BETWEEN THEM AND MINTO, I THINK. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED? IS YOU'RE OKAY? I CAN, I, I, YES. I BELIEVE WE'D BE ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. BUT I, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE AGENCIES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT IS A OH NO. OH, NO, NO, NO. , NO. ONCE, ONCE THE PROPERTY AGENCY DONE ONCE THE WAS BUREAU BUREAUCRACY OF MOTION'S. MM-HMM. . SURE. THAT'S ALL. UM, YES, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA SEE ANY MORE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC THAN WE CURRENTLY HAVE BECAUSE THE, THE LIMIT, THE NUMBER OF HOMES IS PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT. UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME TYPE OF A COMMITMENT TO A VIABLE, UH, SECURITY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE RESIDENTS FROM THE TRAFFIC ISSUES OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE CURRENT RESIDENTS. WE'RE GOING TO BE GROWING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 3,300 HOMES ALREADY AND THEN THIS IS GOING TO START ALSO. AND WE'RE, DURING THAT TIME, WE'RE ALL GONNA BE ACCESSING ONE MAIN ROAD. SO I THINK AS WE GROW, WE'RE GROWING TO A POINT WHERE WE WOULD, WE'RE, IT SHOULD BE, UH, WE'VE, UH, CONSIDERED TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SECURITY SUCH AS, UH, SUN CITY HAS POSSIBLY, UM, THE HOME'S LOCATED ON THE SPINE ROAD. IT'S BEEN A STICKING POINT FOR A BIT OF A PROBLEM. NOW YOU'VE AGREED TO WIDEN THAT ROAD. YOU MENTIONED SIDEWALKS, OR WILL SIDEWALKS BE ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT SPINE ROAD OR JUST ONE? JUST ONE. JUST ONE. ARE THERE PLANS TO [01:55:01] MAKE THE SPINE ROAD LIKE THE REST OF LATITUDE BOULEVARD? NO PARKING ON EITHER SIDE UH, WELL NOW THERE ARE SECTIONS OF COTTAGES ALONG THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT INTO THE STREET. THERE WILL BE THE CUTOUTS FOR THOSE, THE SAME RESTRICTIONS FOR PARKING AND OTHER AREAS WILL REMAIN AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S, THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, THE PARK SITE WILL NO LONGER BE INCLUDED INSIDE THE GATED PORTION OF MARGARITAVILLE? THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S, IT'S OUTSIDE THE GATE. THE GATE WILL BE APPROXIMATE SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA, AND THE PARK WILL BE OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME DIRECT CONNECTION TO HIGHWAY 46, ALTHOUGH WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO PERMIT ANY OF THAT THROUGH DOT YET. OKAY. SO THAT'S STILL UP FOR, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA COME THROUGH INITIAL MAIN ACCESS OFF OF 46 AND THEN, THEN TURN IMMEDIATELY INTO THAT PARK. WILL THERE BE ANY DIRECT ACCESS FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THAT PARK, OR ARE THEY GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT AND COME BACK IN? UH, TH THEY SHOULD BE DIRECT ACCESS FROM INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE YES, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YES. THAT THEY WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS DOWN THROUGH, DOWN THROUGH THE, THE EXISTING. UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT ONTO 46, SIR, COME BACK. NO, NO, NO. OKAY. SORRY. AND I GUESS ONE OF MY, ABOUT THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS I APPRECIATE THE RELOCATION OF, UH, THE CIVIC SITE FOR THE FIRE STATION, UH, TO MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION, ESPECIALLY NOW, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE MORGAN TRACT IS NOW IN PLAY, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 6,000 HOMES INTO THAT AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, UH, CHIEF CAMP, UM, THE FUTURE, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE MAN AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE FUTURE OF PLACEMENT OF, UH, STATIONS AND EQUIPMENT WITHIN HARDY. ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THIS LOCATION? ABSOLUTELY. I PRETTY MUCH PICKED THIS SPOT. ? YEAH. THERE WAS MY, THERE WAS NO NEGOTIATION. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN, AND, AND WHAT WE DID IS, IS, IS WE DID LOOK OUTSIDE OF, IT'S NOT JUST THIS AREA. WE LOOKED OUTSIDE TO THE CURRENT EXISTING LATITUDES HELPING COVER THE MORGAN TRACK, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED. AND ALSO WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON IS THE TOP OF WEST ORIGIN IS STARTING TO BUILD AS WELL. SO WITH THAT GOING THERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY MOVING 83 FARTHER INTO HILTON HEAD LAKES, JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE HALF MILE OR SO DOWN THE ROAD TO GET CLOSER TO THE END. OTHERWISE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS GETTING TO THE 13. BASICALLY IT'S 13 MILE MARKER, THE TOP END OF THE WEST ORIGIN. SO WITH THAT IN PLAY, HAVING THIS HERE, IT KIND OF MOVES 83 AND THIS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, SLIGHTLY FARTHER AWAY. SO WE GET THAT GOOD COVERAGE AREA, SO WE'RE COVERING MORE AREA VERSUS TRYING TO PUT STATIONS ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, AND THEN THEY START OVERLAPPING AND IT'S NOT NEAR AS EFFICIENT. SO WITH THIS COMING IN NOW AND WITH WEST SERGEANT COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME, AND JUST SO HAPPENS, MORGAN IS NOW IN PLAY, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WHOLE AREA. SO WE LOOKED AT IT AS A TOTALITARIAN, LIKE IF EVERYTHING BUILT OUT, HERE'S WHERE WE WANT THE FIRE STATIONS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW, AND THAT'S WHERE THAT SITE CAME FROM. OKAY. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE TELLING US WE BETTER START SAVING OUR PENNIES FOR A NEW SOLUTION? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. OKAY. , THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR OUR FEES THAT WILL BE COLLECTED. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE THE CONCERNS ABOUT. SAFETY IS ALWAYS GONNA BE A CONCERN OF MINE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT, THAT ARE LIVING THERE AND WILL BE LIVING THERE. AS THIS NEW SECTION COMES ON, YOU'VE AGREED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE PROTECTION OF THE TWO, UH, SIGNIFICANT, UH, CULTURAL SITES. YOU'RE, YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH COVERED WHERE I'M CONCERNED WITH THINGS. THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MRS. GUZMAN. UM, FEW QUESTIONS HERE. UM, I WAS NOT ON CITY COUNCIL LAST YEAR WHEN, WHEN THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE FINE TOOTH COMB. SO I WENT AND PULLED ALL THE MINUTES, UH, UH, ATTRIBUTING TO THE CONTRACT. AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT WAS AGREED UPON THEN ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE AGREED UPON FOR THE CONTRACT, IS THAT BEING FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH MINTO? YES, MA'AM. TO THE LETTER? YEAH. WE'VE NOT, WE'VE NOT, YEAH, WE'VE NOT NEGOTIATED AWAY ANY OF THE PRESERVE. LIKE THERE'S A, THERE WAS A 50 FOOT PD, THERE WAS A 50 FOOT BUFFER ADJACENT TO THE NEW RIVER THAT WAS AGREED UPON PRIOR WITH RIGHT. AND THAT'S, THAT IS STILL IN PLACE. THAT WAS MY NE THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. TO, TO PROTECT THAT RIPARIAN BEARER BECAUSE, UM, AND I THINK I ALSO, UH, FOUND OUT THAT INSTEAD OF 3.2 HOMES GOING INTO THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE, NOW IT'S DROPPED DOWN TO 2.5, WHICH, WHICH IS BETTER AS FAR AS THE STORM FIXED. YES, I KNOW , UH, THAT'S WHY I AM ADAMANT THAT EVERYTHING THAT WAS AGREED UPON BY THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL GETS [02:00:01] PUT INTO THIS ONE BECAUSE THESE GUYS WORKED REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET ALL OF THAT PASSED. AND MRS. CASTLE IS SITTING RIGHT THERE. SO ANOTHER LADY THAT WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE STRINGENT CONDITIONS WERE PUT DOWN. AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEIR HARD WORK DOESN'T GO TO WASTE BY US FOLLOWING. WE NEED TO FOLLOW THAT. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO IT'S 2.5 HOMES UNITS PER ACRE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. UM, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, I HAD, UH, 'CAUSE I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND, THIS WAS THE, THE TREE PLACEMENT. AND MAYBE MS. KATIE CAN CONFIRM THIS BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE MINUTES IN MAY, UM, MAYOR WILLIAMS HAD ASKED ABOUT THE TREE PLACEMENT AND, UM, THE RESPONSE WAS THAT THE CITY REQUIRES PLACEMENT WITH HARDWOODS AT 15 ACRE TREES PER ACRE AND THAT THE OAKS WILL BE PROTECTED. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE STANDING BY FOR MINTO AS WELL? WE'RE, WE'RE THE SAME PROVISIONS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT STAND. YES. UM, AND IT INCLUDED A SELECTION OF TREES FROM THE CLEMSON EXTENSION. YES. I THINK NARRATIVE OR WHATEVER THE DOCUMENT WAS. SO WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON NATIVE. WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC ON THE NATIVE TREE REPLACEMENT, WHICH WE WERE REALLY STRESSING SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, SURVIVE IN OUR CLIMATE, SO, OKAY. WHICH IS, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, IF ANYTHING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE STRINGENT. YEAH. AND, AND WHATEVER HARDWOODS ARE OAKS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THAT PROPERTY WILL BE PROTECTED FROM CUTTING. YES. WE WILL REVIEW THOSE THROUGH SRC. OKAY. AND MOST OF THE AREAS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR DEVELOPMENT ARE PLANTED PINE. OKAY. OKAY. AND LET ME SEE IF I HAD ANY MORE. OKAY. YEP. AND THE RIP BUFFER, Y'ALL INCREASED IT FROM 25 TO 50 FEET, CORRECT? YES, IT'S 50 FEET. OKAY. MORE. ALRIGHT. AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAD BECAUSE MR. MESMAN COVERED THE MEAT AND POTATOES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. GLAD THAT LAST COUNCIL GOT WATER . UH, I, UM, I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE MAYBE AT 30,000 FEET. AND WHAT I SEE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT COUNCILS AND THE, THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS TEAMS IS THREE THINGS. UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERACTIVE, SOMETHING THAT WAS COLLABORATIVE, AND SOMETHING THAT WAS FOCUSED ON PROBLEM SOLVING AND CONSENSUS. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT LED US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES AT THE 30,000 FOOT LEVEL AND, UH, AT THE, YOU KNOW, 10 FOOT LEVEL, THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK. BUT, UH, THOSE PRINCIPLES I THINK GOT US HERE. AND THAT'S A COMPLIMENT TO THE CURRENT COUNCIL, THE PAST COUNCIL AND THE PROJECT TEAM THAT YOU HAVE. AND SO I THINK WHEN WE HAVE SUCCESS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE REASONS WHY. AND, UH, AND WHEN WE HAVE FAILURE, IT'S USUALLY BECAUSE WE DON'T DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS. SO, THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU MR. CARROLL. UM, YES. UM, ALSO, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT, UH, WE DID, WE DON'T JUST, UM, COME UP HERE SOMETIME AND ASK QUESTIONS. I'LL MEET WITH, UM, KATIE AND BROWN SOMETIME. WE DO ACTUALLY GO OUT ON THE FIELD AND EACH OF US MET WITH DUTCH AND HE TOOK US, I GUESS YOU'D SAY, ON A FIELD TRIP OR WHATEVER, AND, AND EXPLAINED THINGS TO US AS WE, SOMETIME FOR ME, I LIKE TO SEE IT. AND DUTCH TOOK, UM, WE ALL WENT IN PAIRS AND THEY WENT, BOY, AND I WENT AND HE TOOK US OUT AND SHOWED US A LOT OF THINGS AND EXPLAINED THINGS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. AND YOU COULD SEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES. AND IT, UM, ALLEVIATED A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. AND THE ONE QUESTION I, BUT IT WAS UP THERE TODAY ABOUT THE ARCHE ARCHEOLOGICAL STUDIES. 'CAUSE UH, DUTCH HAD BROUGHT THAT UP ON THAT, UM, TRIP ABOUT SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE HAD BEEN SOME CONCERNS. AND I THINK FROM WHAT ALL DUTCH SAID AND FROM WHAT WE HEAR, ALL THAT'S BEEN PRETTY WELL ALLEVIATED AS FAR AS CONCERNS, I HOPE. BUT, UM, ANYWAY, THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, HAVE, HAVE BEEN ASKED TODAY AND THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I'M KIND OF LIKE BLOW, I'M NOT MAYBE 30,000, BUT MAYBE 20,000 FEET. BUT ANYWAY, YOU'RE AFRAID OF HEIGHT TOO? I AM . THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, I, I JUST WANT TO CHECK SOME BOXES. UM, AND MRS. GUZMAN BROUGHT IT UP, UM, IN TERMS OF THE LAST VERY LENGTHY MEETING, UM, THAT WE ALL HAD THE WORKSHOPS, WE INVITED A NUMBER OF, UM, [02:05:01] OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA. UM, BOTH COUNTIES AND TOWN OF BLUFFTON DID PARTICIPATE IN THOSE, UM, WORKSHOPS. SO I JUST WANT TO GO OVER AND AGAIN, FROM THE MINUTES OF THE FIRST READING, UH, ON MAY 5TH, 2022, UM, AND I THINK, UM, MRS. GUZMAN TOUCHED ON SOME OF 'EM. UM, AND NUMBER ONE, ALL THINGS ARE THE SAME THAT WE APPROVED WHEN WE, UH, WE APPROVED. ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS CHANGED FROM THAT AGREEMENT? WELL, THE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I MEAN, THERE ARE THINGS CHANGED JUST SO I DON'T MISSTATE ANYTHING LIKE THE, THE, THE, AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ASKING THIS, BUT I JUST WANNA BE ON RECORD AND SAY IT LIKE THE, THE PRIMARY ROAD CONNECTED TO THE MORGAN TRACK OR WAS SHOWN AS A CONNECTION TO THE MORGAN TRACK. OBVIOUSLY THAT'S CHANGED. SO YES, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED RELATED TO THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS. BUT AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS, NO SIR, NONE OF THAT HAS CHANGED. OKAY. THAT'S, AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. WE DID CHANGE THE ACCESS INSTEAD OF COLEMAN LOOP ROAD, RIGHT. TO NOW IT WILL GO TO 46 AND THERE'S A PLAN ROUNDABOUT AT THAT INTERSECTION. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? YES. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CHANGED. UM, AND WHILE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC, LET'S, LET'S GO OVER IT. PART OF THE MEETINGS, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASK IF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY EXTENSION WOULD GO THROUGH IF THIS PROJECT WERE DEVELOPED, THE ANSWER BY MS. WOODRUFF WAS THAT, UH, AN OFFICIAL STUDY WAS NEVER DONE. NOW, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, SOMEBODY ALREADY SAID, WE ALL MET WITH EITHER IN PAIRS OR INDIVIDUALLY WITH MR. ER OF MINTO TO GO OVER SOME OF THE ASK THAT RESULTED IN WHAT YOU SAW EARLY. THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY WAS A PLAN MANY YEARS AGO, 20, 25 YEARS AGO, THAT WOULD'VE EVENTUALLY GO THROUGH THE CAR TRACK, THROUGH THE MORGAN TRACK AND A CONNECT TO HIGHWAY 17. THERE IS A PLAN FOR, UH, BLUFFTON, WHICH IS BEAUFORT COUNTY TO EXTEND THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY UP TO THE POINT OF THE CAR TRACK. WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THAT SOME MONTHS AGO. WE MET WITH BLUFFTON SOME MONTHS AGO. THAT'S NOT BEEN FUNDED, AND THERE ARE, IT, IT'S NOT IMMINENT. AND WE WERE RECEIVED A REPORT FROM KIMLEY HORNE RIGHT. SHOWING THAT THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IF WE WERE TO EXTEND THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY THROUGH THE CAR TRACK, INCLUDING THE MITIGATION OF, UH, OF NUMEROUS WET WETLANDS. I DID SHARE THAT WITH, UH, REPRESENTATIVE BILL HERF GERSTMAN, WHO ASKED ABOUT IT AS WELL AS THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON. SO, UH, THEY UNDERSTOOD IT. SO IT DOESN'T SEEM, IF WE APPROVE THIS, ALL HOPES OF THE EXTENSION OF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY ARE DONE, EXCEPT FOR THE ALTERNATIVE ROUTE DOWN 1 73 15 1 SE THERE'S ALTERNATE ROUTES TO BRING IT IN THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THE RIVERPORT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO I HAVE A QUESTION, AND THIS RELATES TO ANOTHER QUESTION. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS COUNCIL NUMEROUS TIMES THAT WE NEED ON DEVELOPMENTS MORE THAN ONE ACCESS POINT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, YET HERE WE ARE WITH 1 2600 HOME DEVELOPMENT WITH ONLY ONE ACCESS. AND IT SEEMS INCONCEIVABLE TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE APPROVED 300 UNIT APARTMENTS ON A HUNDRED ACRES, AND WE HAD TO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS. HERE WE HAVE 2,600 ACRES, AND REALLY ONLY ONE, THERE'S GONNA BE ONE AT 2 78 AND ONE ON ON 46. WHY IS IT NOT REQUIRED THAT THERE BE ANOTHER ACCESS POINT? AND I, MAYBE THAT'S FOR CHIEF CAMP. THAT'S WHAT THE, THE FIRE CODE DOES ALLOW WHAT THEY CALL THE PHASED APPROACH. SO THE ONE ENTRANCE IN THE BEGINNING IS FINE, AND WE CAN USE STRYKER IN AN EMERGENCY. I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S NOT A GREAT ROAD, BUT WE CAN GET DOWN IT. UM, AT THE END, WHAT I SAW WAS THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A ENTRANCE OFF 46 ENTRANCE OFF 2 78, [02:10:01] A SECOND ENTRANCE OFF 2 78, THAT'S GONNA BE THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. AND NOW WITH THE ADDITION OF THE MORGAN, THERE WILL BE A FOURTH GOING THROUGH MORGAN TRACK. SO THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR THE FIRE CODE BECAUSE OF IT IS VERY SPECIFIC. IT SAYS WE MUST CONSIDER A PHASED APPROACH WHEN CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF ACCESSES REQUIRED IN THE END, IF THE, IF THE FINAL DOCUMENT SHOWS ENOUGH ENTRANCES AND EXITS, THEN YES, WE MUST CONSIDER THOSE EXITS AS LONG AS THEY'RE LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENTS HERE. I HAVE TWO CONCERNS. FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE DEALING WITH THE, THE CAR TRACK PERIOD. OKAY? OKAY. WE, YES, WE NEED TO TAKE IT IN THE CONCEPT OF EVERYBODY, RIGHT? YEAH. WE NEED TO KNOCK DOWN ONE. YES. BUT WE'RE HERE TO DECIDE ON THE CAR TRACK. MM-HMM, , THE CAR TRACK HAS ONE EXIT POINT. MORGAN, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. AND AFTER TALKING TO SUTTON, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE COMMERCIAL'S GONNA HAPPEN EITHER . OKAY. SO WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT WE'RE CREATING ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I'VE HEARD FOR YEARS FROM THE MARGARITAVILLE GROUP, IN THAT WE ONLY HAVE ONE WAY OUT OF THE PLACE. AND, AND NOW WE'RE CREATING THAT SAME SITUATION, COUNTING ON THE MORGAN TRACK. AND I UNDERSTAND THE PHASE IS LIKE COUNTING ON, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SUN WILL COLLAPSE AND SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HYPOTHETICAL. YES, SIR. SO I HAVE A SUGGESTION, I'M NOT BRINGING THIS UP JUST TO BE A, A SMARTY MM-HMM. , I HAVE A SUGGESTION, PROBABLY NEXT YEAR IN THE BEAUFORT COUNTY JASPER, UH, TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX REFERENDUM, IF THAT PASSES, THERE WILL PROBABLY MONEY TO COMPLETE THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY TO THE CHART CAR TRACK. AND YOU SEE THERE'S A LITTLE LIKE ROAD THERE COMES RIGHT ON THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT MAP. SEE THAT LIKE A LINE LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THERE. AIRLINE LINE. IS THAT A POWER LINE? THAT'S A POWER LINE. OKAY. THAT'S APPROXIMATELY IN THAT AREA IS WHERE BLUFFTON PARKWAY EXTENSION WILL END. SO MY QUESTION IS THIS, DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE? BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE ROADS THROUGH THERE THAT WE PUT A GATE, AND THEN WHENEVER IT HAPPENS, AND THE ABILITY TO GO OUT A BACK GATE TO THE PARKWAY, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY EXTENSION, AND THAT WILL ACCESS TO ONE 70 AND ALL THE STORES THERE THAT KEEPS ALL THE, ALL THAT TRAFFIC OFF PLANTATION DRIVE AND 46. NOW, I, THAT'S SUPPOSITION, BUT SO IS THE MORGAN TRACK. MM-HMM. , IF WE COULD PUT IN THERE THAT AT SOME POINT IF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY IS EXTENDED TO THE CAR TRACK, THAT WE PUT A BACK GATE THERE IN ACCESSIBILITY OF THIS TRACK TO THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY. IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST? I CAN'T REQUIRE THAT AS FAR AS FAR NO, NO. I KNOW YOU, I KNOW YOU DON'T, BUT IF WE DID THAT, IT WOULD SOLVE WHAT I'M SAYING THAT WE WOULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE ACCESS. AND I FEEL, BUT, AND I, I, I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS GOING RELATED TO THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY, BUT JUST, I MEAN, BY VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT THIS PLAN HAS CHANGED, NOW THIS MAKES THIS ONE COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS TWO ACCESSES, RIGHT. HIGHWAY 46 AND 2 78. BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ALSO OF DISPERSION OF TRAFFIC, NOT JUST ON THE 46 AND 2 78. YEAH. BUT AGAIN, A LOT OF WHAT PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GONE THROUGH, THROUGH MARGARITAVILLE NOW. AND, AND THAT CAR TRACK TO GET TO 2 78 WILL REQUIRE A SMALL PLANE TRIP. AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EXACTLY. SO YOU'RE SAYING A GATE THOUGH, ALONG THE ? NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF PUT IN SOME PROVISION IN THERE THAT IF BLUFFTON EXTENDS THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY TO THE CAR TRACK, THAT WE ALLOW A GATE TO GO IN THERE AND, AND ACCESS TO THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY. IF IT HAPPENS, I WOULD SAY YOU WOULD PUT A PROVISION SAYING IT, LIKE I THINK YOU'D PROVISION TO EXPLORE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WHO'S TO SAY THERE WOULDN'T BE FLYOVERS AND THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY ACCESSES? I DON'T, I DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT. IT MAY BE MORE OF A AX ROAD. WELL, IF THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY GETS EXTENDED AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ROAD, RIGHT KATIE? IT, IT'S GOES RIGHT UP TO THE CAR TRACK AND THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT ALREADY THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO IT, BUT THEY HAVE THE EASEMENT. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WOULD, THAT EASEMENT WILL ALLOW THEM TO BUILD THE ROAD AND BLUFFTON WANTS TO DO IT, IT WILL ALLOW THEM TO BUILD THE ROAD RIGHT UP TO, UH, THE CAR TRACK SO THE BLUFFTON NOT THROUGH IT UP TO IT. SO THE BLUFFTON RIGHT OF WAY, I THINK ONLY GETS YOU TO THE RIVER. AND THEN THAT, [02:15:01] THAT, UM, REALLY EXPENSIVE BRIDGE OVER THE RIVER AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, THAT'S WHERE IT REALLY ALL COMES INTO PLAY. UM, AND WILL TAKE MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS OF PERMITTING. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, THE MITIGATION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA BE PLACEMENT OF THOSE WETLANDS IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT. YEAH. THAT YOU CAN'T UNWIND. OKAY. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD REQUIRE A BRIDGE OVER THE WETLANDS. A HUNDRED PERCENT. YES, SIR. IT'S GONNA REQUIRE A BRIDGE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT BRINGS US BACK TO HAVING ANOTHER ACCESS POINT OUT OF THERE. AND ESPECIALLY, HERE'S ANOTHER THING. YOU'VE CHANGED THE ACCESS POINT EVEN FURTHER AWAY. I, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT GOING OFF COLEMAN LOOP ROAD, THAT'S A SMALL RURAL ROAD, AND THIS IS A BETTER PLAN, BUT IT, IT'S A PLAN THAT PUTS THE TRAFFIC FURTHER AWAY FROM THE ACCESS POINT. AND, AND I'M, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT HERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE ACCESS POINT, AND THIS TAKING THIS TRACK ALL BY ITSELF ONLY HAS ONE. AND I BROUGHT THIS UP TO, TO DUTCH WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE BLUFFTON PARKWAY EXTENSION THAT I, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT ONLY HAVING THIS ONE ACCESS, AND I STILL HAVE THAT CONCERN. DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS WHAT WE COULD DO TO TRY TO HELP THAT? EVAN, ONLY ONE POINT IF YOU CONSIDER THIS IN A VACUUM. YEAH, SURE. BUT IT'S, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT CONCERN OF IT BEING CONSIDERED IN A VACUUM. RIGHT? BECAUSE IT IS THIS, OBVIOUSLY IT'S CLEARLY THE SAME DEVELOPMENT ENTITY THAT'S GONNA CONTINUE THAT WILL CREATE THAT LOGICAL CONNECTION TO HAVE THE TWO POINTS OF CONNECTION. I, I'D SAY IN THE VACUUM, UH, LAMAR, BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE, IT'S SO DISTANT FROM 2 78 AND NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE WHAT IS A WHAT, HOW MANY, 4,000 ACRES AND TWO ROADS IN AND OUT YET IN, IN 100 ACRES WE WERE, WE HAD THAT TWO, TWO ACCESS POINT. IT'S TO ME, I'M SORRY. IT'S, IT'S NOT LOGICAL. WELL, AND AGAIN, LIKE STEVE WAS SAYING, IT'S A PHASE. IT, IT ALLOWS FOR A PHASED APPROACH TO IT. I MEAN, IF YOU STEP BACK AND LOOK AT IT, AND TWO 70 EIGHT'S ONLY ONE ROAD, RIGHT? , I MEAN, THERE'S AN EDGE OF THE WORLD AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER. SO AGAIN, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE BE THIS IS A BETTER OPTION AND SOLUTION FOR THIS PROPERTY, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT IT DOES TIE IN VERSUS JUST HAVING HIGHWAY 46 AS IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AND APPROVED ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT. OKAY. I'LL MOVE, I'LL MOVE ON. UM, NOW THERE WERE CERTAIN, UM, REQUIREMENTS. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BEING ON THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE NEW RIVER AND THERE WERE CERTAIN READINGS THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THE POLLUTANTS ARE NOT, UM, WE ARE GONNA KEEP OUR EYE ON THE POLLUTANTS INTO THE NEW RIVER. IS THAT STILL OPERATIONAL? IS THAT STILL REQUIRED? THAT WAS A COMMITMENT THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE PRIOR ZONING APPLICATION. RIGHT. OKAY. AND THAT'S STILL IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE. AND WE, IT SAID WE WOULD USE THE B-J-W-S-A MONITORING STATEMENT WITH, UH, STATION WITH THE DATA AVAILABLE AND MR. MERCER, THAT'S YOU RIGHT? YES. ADD THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO DO A BASELINE STUDY AS LONG AS THE INFORMATION WOULD NOT BE DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE. SO ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THAT BASELINE STUDY? WELL, IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANYTHING BEYOND WHAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE IN THE, IN THE APPLICATION AND WHAT YOU WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO DO IS FIND OUT WHAT THE DATA IS AVAILABLE AND FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ANOTHER. AND YOU'RE STILL WILLING TO DO THAT TO LOCATE, TO TRY TO OBTAIN THE DATA. OKAY. SO YEAH, I WANT THAT IN THE RECORD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT BASELINE STUDY SO THAT WE CATCH EARLY ON IF THERE'S ANY POLLUTANTS GOING INTO THE NEW RIVER AS A RESULT OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THAT WE CATCH IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND NOT AFTER THE FACT. OKAY. UM, I ASKED IF THE WETLANDS COULD BE PUT IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT EARLIER, IS THAT THERE, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, JUST TO BE CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRESERVE 'EM. IT'S THROUGH EITHER THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE PROTECTED EITHER WAY, BUT IT'S EITHER THROUGH A CONSERVATION EASEMENT OR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY GOING AND ASSESSING THE BEST METHOD TO DO THAT, EITHER WAY TO GET PRESERVED THE WETLANDS AND THE UPLAND ADJACENT BUFFERS. OKAY. UM, THE, WE TOUCHED ON THE TREE REPLACEMENT AND THE HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS. 'CAUSE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE, IN THE, WHEN [02:20:01] WE APPROVE THIS, THERE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT, UM, WERE ALSO AGREED TO, UM, IN, IN THE MINUTES HERE AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. NUMBER ONE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING TRAFFIC, PARTICULARLY ON THREE 15 AND EVERYTHING, UH, WE ASKED FOR A CONTRIBUTION OF $300,000 BE DONE TO ACTUALLY THEY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER AND IT'D BE GIVEN TO LATS TO DO A REGIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO LATS THAT THAT COMMITMENT AND THAT'S STUDY IS BEING COMMISSIONED BY THE, THE GROUP KNOWN AS LATS, WHICH IS THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION. SO THAT JUST, I WANT THAT ON THE PUBLIC THAT'S BEING DONE, RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS ASKED FOR THAT WAS NOT DONE, AND I HAD ASKED FOR, UM, AN MOU, SO I'M GOING TO ASK MR. NEU WEILER IF YOU WOULD PICK UP THE AGREEMENT WITHOUT HAVING ANYTHING DONE IN WRITING BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER FOLLOWED UP ON. WE HAD ASKED FOR COOPERATION AND PARTAKE IN BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT IN THIS CAR TRACK, BUT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY. THAT WAS AN MOU THAT I ASKED FOR AND IT WAS NOT DONE. I THINK THAT COMMITMENT THAT WAS MADE AT THAT TIME, I'D LIKE MINTO TO BRING THAT UP. AND THERE'S NO SPECIFIC, THERE'S NO DOLLAR AMOUNT. THE CITY IS WORKING ON A PLANT WITH OTHER BUILDERS, AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE A PART OF THAT. I WOULD LIKE SOME AGREEMENT THAT YOU WOULD WORK WITH US ON THIS SUBJECT AND WHAT IT ENTAILS IS, IS BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SOME OTHER PART OF THE CITY. YOU'LL WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT. OKAY. LET'S, UM, MIKE AND PINA I'D, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE, AND MIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, MOU WRITTEN UP THAT SAID THAT, UH, MINTO WILL WORK ON US WITH THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS BEING, UM, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF COOPERATION FROM THE INVESTMENT GROUP AND BUILDERS THAT JUST BOUGHT THE MORGAN TRACK. UH, AND THEY, WE ALSO JUST ORIGINALLY, UH, RECENTLY APPROVED A PROJECT IN, UH, EAST SERGEANT FOR THE SAME GROUP. SO, UH, WE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO COME ON BOARD AND BE PART OF THE SOLUTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, IN, IN, IN HARDY. DEFINITELY. IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE AMENABLE TO DUTCH? I'LL DEFINITELY HAVE DISCUSSION WITH HIM. I CAN'T COMMIT AND THERE'S NO DOLLAR AMOUNT. I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S NO DOLLAR AMOUNT AND, YOU KNOW, UM, OKAY, LET ME FINISH UP THE QUESTION. SORRY TO TAKE UP SO MUCH TIME. UM, THERE WAS A STATEMENT MADE, AND I HAD READ IT. IT SAYS, REDUCES WETLAND IMPACTS BY 40% FROM CURRENT PLAN. UH, IT WAS ON PAGE TWO OF THE SUMMARY. I I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT. AND YOU'VE MENTIONED IT EARLIER. WHAT IS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT APPROVED ZONING PLAN INCLUDED ABOUT 17.2 OR FIVE ACRES OF WETLAND IMPACTS TO ACCOMPLISH BASED ON THIS PLANNING EXERCISE THAT MINTO HAS GONE THROUGH. IT'S BEEN REDUCED BY 40. BY 40. OKAY. THE WETLAND IMPACT. AND A LOT OF IT, AGAIN, A LOT OF IT WAS THE MAIN ROAD BECAUSE THE MAIN ROAD, THE WAY IT SWUNG AROUND THROUGH BACK OF THE MORGAN INCLUDED A FAIR AMOUNT OF WETLAND IMPACTS IN THIS AREA AND DOWN THROUGH THIS AREA. SO IT HAS BEEN ADJUSTED TO ROUTE IT THROUGH UPLAND DEVELOPABLE AREA. OKAY. THERE WAS, UM, I MENTIONED, AND EVERYBODY MENTIONED THAT WE MET WITH, UH, DUTCH GOING OVER SOME OF THE, OUR CONCERNS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE STAGING OF CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES OUTSIDE THE GATES PRIOR TO THE SEVEN O'CLOCK START TIME. UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT DEALT WITH THAT DUTCH. COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT? YOU'VE ALREADY MADE THAT CHANGE? WE DON'T STAGE, WE LET 'EM GO TO THE BACK WHERE OUR CONSTRUCTION, UH, AREAS ARE. OKAY. SO THERE'LL BE NO MORE DIESEL TRUCKS. WE DON'T HOLD THE GATE CLOSED IN THEM. THANK YOU. UH, WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, UH, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN FURTHER MENTION THE $4 MILLION IN TRANSPORTATION FEES. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS THAT? YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD, THE ROAD, THERE'S ROAD DEVELOPMENT, THE ROAD FEES, ROAD DEVELOPMENT FEES, AND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT GO TOWARDS? IS THAT IT'S INCLUDED FOR THE CITY TO USE FOR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS? THAT'S IN MR. DAVIS'S PRESENTATION, BUT NO, THAT WAS, UH, SO LONG EXPLANATION, BUT AS YOU RECALL IN THE CAR TRACK, WE KINDA CHANGED OUR METHODOLOGY [02:25:01] ABOUT WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR ONSITE AND OFFSITE IMPROVEMENT. SO AS PART OF THE CAR TRACK, IT PRETTY MUCH SAID IF IT'S REQUIRED BY A TIA OR DOT, THE APPLICANT OR OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL IMPROVEMENTS. WELL, AS YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, UM, IF WE PUT TOGETHER A 2 78 CORRIDOR PLAN AND ALL THESE PROPERTIES ARE STARTING TO DEVELOP, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS. SO WHAT WE ASKED MINTO AS PART OF OUR NEGOTIATIONS IS TO NEGOTIATE A DEVELOPMENT FEE, UH, FOR OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS. SO THOSE, UM, THOSE WOULD TAKE CARE OF ANY OF THOSE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN THAT KIND OF REGIONAL TRAFFIC STUDY. UM, WHERE CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO DA FEES INCLUDED FOR OFFSITE IMPROVE OFFSITE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. SO THEY'VE AGREED TO PUT IN A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT $4 MILLION UPON BUILD OUT OF ALL THOSE UNITS. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT IS IN, THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE TIA REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE TAKEN CARE OF AS WELL. OKAY, THANK YOU. I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT. ONE MORE POINT, AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME FLOODING IN WITHIN THE EXISTING COMMUNITY AND IT CAUSED THE, UM, DYING OF QUITE A FEW TREES IN THE WETLANDS. DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YES, YES. UM, MY CONCERN IS YOU'RE NOW, WE'RE GOING INTO A 2200 ACRE OF WHICH HALF ARE WETLANDS. ARE WE TAKING PROPER PRECAUTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND WE END UP WITH A LOT OF DEAD TREES? WE, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN AS EXIST IN EXISTING MARVILLE. YES, WE ARE. WE WILL ACCOMPLISH, UH, DRAINAGE PER WETLAND COVENANT OR PERMIT RESTRICTIONS TO, TO MAKE SURE THOSE AREAS ARE DRAINED ADEQUATELY. OKAY. I'M, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD THAT IN THE ORIGINAL THING AND WE ENDED UP WITH A BIG SWATH OF DEAD TREES. I, THERE WAS SOME ISSUES. I HOPE I'M SURE YOU'D LEARN FROM THAT. I JUST WANT TO BRING IT OUT SURE. AS A, A PRECAUTIONARY TALE BECAUSE THIS HAS EVEN MORE WETLANDS THAN, THAN THAT. YES. THERE ARE SOME ISOLATED WETLANDS. SO YES, WE WE'RE VERY MAYOR. YES. IF I MAY, THERE THE CITY DID EXECUTE A MOU REGARDING THE ROAD CONTRIBUTIONS AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT WAS EXECUTED BACK IN JUNE OF 2022. UM, OH, I KNOW THEY DID THE, UH, ROAD. I WE DO HAVE THE MOU. YEAH, THE, THE MOU UM, ADDRESSED BOTH THINGS. THE ROAD CONTRIBUTION, THE 300,000. OH, OKAY. IT'S BOTH IN AS WELL AS THAT. BUT THAT WAS WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER, THE TWO BRIDGE BLUFF. UM, SO I WILL SEND THAT DOCUMENT ON TO YOU. UM, I BELIEVE SARAH HAS A COPY OF IT. YEAH. UM, BUT I'LL, I'LL FORWARD THAT DOCUMENT ALONG AND IF, UM, IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ALONG THE SIMILAR LINES. NO, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT. I, I I DIDN'T KNOW, I KNOW WE DID THE TRANSPORTATION. I DIDN'T KNOW WE DID THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WE ALREADY HAVE A DOCUMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SIGN ONTO AS THE PROPERTY TRANSFERS TO YOU AS WELL. OKAY. SO COULD YOU FORWARD THAT TO, TO, UH, DUTCH SO THAT HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS AND THEN AT SECOND READING YOU CAN SAY YAY OR NAY THAT YOU'RE ON BOARD WITH THIS, THIS. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU MRS. MAINES. OKAY. I'M DONE. BIG SIGH OF RELIEF. . THANK YOU. UM, MARCH THIS MERRY, MERRY CHRISTMAS. I'M DONE. OKAY. UM, AT THIS TIME, UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT OR QUESTIONS FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, PLEASE LINE UP STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD. MAYOR WILLIAMS HONOR, AND PLEASE TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. MAYOR WILLIAMS, HONORED COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEVE TALBOTT. I LIVE AT 3 85 FULL SWEET EAST IN LATITUDE LAKES. I RISE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS MASTER PLAN FOR SEVERAL REASONS. I'LL EXPLAIN ONE OF THEM. TODAY, TOMORROW, DECEMBER 15, DEC. YEAH, TOMORROW MAX, THE 79TH ANNIVERSARY OF OBAMA CRASH IN HARDY, NINE AMERICAN HEROES MADE UP THAT CREW. WHEN THE APPLICANT FIRST CAME TO THE HARDY PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THEIR SUBMITTAL FOR THE FIRST TIME, I QUESTIONED THE ARCHEOLOGICAL REPORT ON THE CRASH SITE AND WAS TOLD WE COULD NOT DISCUSS IT BECAUSE OF SENSITIVITY THAT DAY OR THE NEXT. I GOT AN EMAIL FROM MR. MERCER OF THOMAS AND HUTTON ASKING IF WE COULD TALK. I AGREED AND THE CONVERSATION ENSUED. HE EXPLAINED THAT WE WERE TO, THAT IF WE WERE TO DISCUSS THIS [02:30:01] OPENLY, IT COULD CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH SOUVENIR HUNTERS VISITING THE SITE AT THAT TIME. THIS MADE SENSE TO ME. SO I ASKED HOW I COULD GET MORE INFORMATION. HE OFFERED TO SEND ME THE COMPLETE BROCKTON REPORT. I SAID THAT WOULD BE FINE. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM THE PLANNING OFFICE STATING THAT WE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD AGAIN ADDRESS THE MASTER PLAN AND THE PDD AMENDMENT. AT THAT MEETING, I TALKED ABOUT THE PHONE CALL AND THE CONTACTS THEREOF. SINCE I HAD NOT RECEIVED THE REPORT, I STATED THE SAME. I ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE REPORT LATE LAST TUESDAY. THEN AT THE WORKSHOP ON THIS APPLICATION, I MADE A STATEMENT THAT THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SEVERAL ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES IN THE PACKAGE PROVIDED BY MINTO IN THE PDD AMENDMENT STATED THAT THE CRASH SITE AS WELL AS OTHERS REQUIRED FURTHER INVESTIGATION. I SHOWED THAT TO THE MINTO REPRESENTATIVE. IT WAS THERE IN THEIR, IN THEIR PACKET. I HAVE NXK RIGHT HERE. IT WAS IN THEIR PACKET. UM, THEIR REPRESENTATIVE LOOKED AT THE DOCUMENT AND PHOTOGRAPHED IT SAYING THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. AND I'M SORRY, BUT, BUT THE, UH, CRASH SITE IS MY PRIME CONCERN AS A 39 YEAR AIR FORCE VETERAN, I'M CONCERNED WITH PROTECTING AND MEMORIALIZING THIS SITE. THE BROCKTON REPORT SHOWS THE CRASH SITE SHOWS THE CRASH SITE, AND REPORTS THAT A, THE AIRCRAFT TOOK OFF FROM A BASE GEORGIA. AND SHORTLY AFTER TAKEOFF DEVELOPED AN ENGINE FIRE ON THE NUMBER ONE OR LEFT OUTBOARD ENGINE. THE CREW INSTITUTED THEIR EMERGENCY PROCEDURES. AND WHEN THE FIRE COULD NOT BE CONTAINED, A DECISION WAS MADE THAT THE CREW SHOULD LEAVE THE AIRCRAFT. THE PILOT STARTED IN ASCENT TO GAIN ALTITUDES SO THE CREW COULD SAFELY EXIT THE AIRCRAFT RADIO OPERATOR. CORPORAL DAVIS EXITED THE PLANE AS HE WAS DESCENDING IN HIS PARACHUTE. HE SAW THE AIRCRAFT IMPACT THE GROUND AND EXPLODE, NOT SEEING ANY OTHER PARACHUTE. HE ASSUMED THE REST OF THE CREW WERE ON BOARD. THE FIRE FROM THE FUEL BURNED FOR 10 HOURS. THIS IS NOT SURPRISING WITH THE REMOTENESS OF THE SITE, THE AMOUNT OF FUEL ON BOARD AND THE FIREFIGHTING EQUIPMENT WE HAD AT THAT TIME, THE ARMY WAS ABLE TO RECOVER TWO REMAINS FROM THE CRASH SITE. NO MENTION IS MADE OF THE REMAINING SIX MEMBERS. ONE CAN DEDUCT AT THEIR REMAINS OR THEIR CRE REMAINS IF THEY WERE BURNT UP IN THE, IN THE FIRE ARE STILL OUT THERE. THEREFORE, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT WE SHOULD MAKE THIS A MEMORIAL TO THOSE WHO GAVE OFF OF THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE APPROVED A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR A VETERANS PARK IN HARVILLE. I SUBMIT TO ALL PRESENT, ALTHOUGH THOSE AIRMEN OUT THERE IN THAT SPOT ARE NOT, OR WERE NOT HOTVILLE SONS, THAT WE NEED TO ADOPT THEM AND HONOR THEIR SACRIFICE. LET'S SLOW DOWN THE WORK AND TOGETHER WORK THIS TOGETHER. MAKE THIS SITE WHERE VETERANS GROUPS FROM THE THREE COMMUNITIES, LATITUDE, MARGARITAVILLE, LATITUDE LAKES, AND THE HILTON HEAD LAKES CAN VISIT THE SITE ON MEMORIAL DAY VETERANS DAY IN THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE CRASH SITE DECEMBER 15TH, WHICH IS 79 YEARS AGO TOMORROW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, MR. TALBOT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, ACCORDING TO THE, THE BROCKINGTON REPORT THAT THEY ONLY RECOVERED THE REMAINS OF TWO AIRMEN, 2, 2, 2 REMAINS. AND AS FAR AS THE OTHER SIX DON'T, AS FAR AS THE OTHER SIX, THERE'S NO MENTION IN THE REPORT OF THE OTHER SIX. SO YOU CAN DEDUCT FROM THAT, THAT THE OTHER SIX ARE EITHER STILL OUT THERE OR THEIR ASHES OR FRAGMENTS OF THEIR BONES ARE STILL OUT THERE. WHICH IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THAT IS NO LONGER JUST AN ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE, IT'S A CEMETERY. AND UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS COULD BECOME A NATIONAL CEMETERY SIMILAR TO THE FOLKS THAT ARE ENTOMBED IN, UM, THE ARIZONA AND PEARL HARBOR. THANKS. THAT'S A LOT TO SWALLOW. THAT'S A LUCK. OKAY, NEXT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. MY NAME'S ED MURRAY. I LIVE IN MARGARITAVILLE AT 4 37 BEACHCOMBER BOULEVARD. AND I'D LIKE TO FIRST SAY THAT MY REMARKS THAT I'M GONNA MAKE TODAY ARE BASED ON NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH ACQUAINTANCES AND OTHER RESIDENTS IN MARGARITAVILLE, [02:35:01] UM, REGARDING THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, NOT JUST TODAY, BUT IN THE WORKSHOPS PREVIOUSLY. AND FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO EACH ONE. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE'S A, A GENERAL CONSENSUS AMONG THE FOLKS THAT I'VE TALKED WITH THAT MANY OF THESE ISSUES, SIDEWALKS, MAILBOXES, SO ON OR, UH, THE SPINE ROAD HOUSES ARE ISSUES THAT CAN BE LEFT BETWEEN A POTENTIAL BUYER AND BETWEEN MENTO AND THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, AS CURRENT RESIDENTS OF MARGARITAVILLE NEED TO NECESSARILY GET INVOLVED IN. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUY A HOUSE ON THE SPINE ROAD AND MENTO WANTS TO SELL IT, GREAT. IF NO ONE WANTS TO BUY THOSE LOTS, MENTO WON'T SELL THEM. WE WERE VERY AWARE OF WHERE SIDEWALKS, MAILBOXES, ET CETERA, WOULD BE LOCATED BEFORE WE MOVED IN. AND WE JUST THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE HANDLED AS WELL AS IT IS BEING HANDLED NOW BY THEM. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD, WE HAVE SEEN IN, IN THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT, NUMEROUS CROSSWALKS, STOP SIGNS, UH, PAVEMENT MARKINGS IN THE TRAFFIC CIRCLES, ANYTHING THAT THEY CAN DO TO KEEP US SAFE, IT SEEMS IT'S BEEN DONE AND IT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO DO SO. THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE GETTING HURT. IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR 'EM TO DO THEIR JOB, WHICH IS TO SELL HOUSES. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN A GREAT TRACK RECORD THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS FOR OURSELVES OR, AND WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THAT REGARD, I ALSO THINK THAT WE SHOULD TRUST THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO HOLD THEM TO THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO SAFETY. I DO WANT TO TALK TO THE USE OF LATITUDE BOULEVARD AS A CONSTRUCTION ROAD. WHEN MY WIFE AND I SIGNED OUR CONTRACT IN 2021, WE WERE TOLD AS, AS WE SAW TODAY, THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT ABOUT THE YEAR 2030 OR 2031 BEFORE THE CURRENT MARGARITAVILLE WOULD BE COMPLETED. UM, I BELIEVE THAT THE EXTENSION, THE ADDITIONAL YEAR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO ACCOMMODATE THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS WORTH THE GAINS THAT WE'LL MAKE. AND THE ONES THAT I'D LIKE TO OUTLINE THE GAINS THAT I'LL TALK TO, THE SECOND AMENITY CENTER, THERE'S A LOT OF TALK AMONG THE RESIDENTS THAT THIS CURRENT AMENITY CENTER IS GONNA BE OVERSTRESSED. WHEN WE'RE FILLED OUT WITH THE CAR ADDITION, UH, WE'LL HAVE TWO CENTERS AND THOSE WILL BE DIVIDED BY LESS RESIDENTS THAN THE SINGLE ONE. NOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WE GET ABOUT 3,300 HOMES USING ONE. WE'LL END UP WITH A LITTLE LESS THAN 6,000 HOMES USING TWO. I THINK WE CAN ALL DO THAT MATH. UM, MINTO IS GONNA CONTINUE TO MANAGE THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THEY DO NOW. YOU'VE BEEN THERE. THEY, THEY KEEP EVERYTHING LOOKING GREAT. THEY KEEP US SAFE, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DO THEIR JOBS. WE WILL GET THAT SECOND ENTRANCE AND A FIRE STATION THAT'LL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO US MORE QUICKLY THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW. UH, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST BENEFIT, AND I'D LIKE TO END WITH THIS, IS THIS, THE CAR TRACK I BELIEVE IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT BY SOMEONE. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THAT MIGHT BE, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT IF MINTO DOES IT, IT'S GONNA BE DONE WELL, IT'LL BE DONE IN OUR BEST INTEREST AND WE CAN CONTROL THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE. SO, UM, JUST I'M ASKING, AND, AND WITH THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WE MAKE AS RESIDENTS TOO MANY DEMANDS OR THROW UP OBSTACLES IN THE WAY OF MENTO FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WE CONSIDER SOME OF THE, ALL OF THE GAINS THAT WE HAVE IN EXCHANGE FOR THESE SHORT TERM, UH, DISCOMFORTS OR SHORT TERM, UM, INCONVENIENCES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. UM, YES, YOU DO HAVE ONE ON FACEBOOK, MR. MAY. OH, OKAY. COULD YOU COME UP, UH, JUAN AND, AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COUNSEL. UH, YOU DO HAVE ONE FROM, UH, MR. ROY TUCKER. THE PDD HAS COMPLETION BY 2035. LAMAR MENTIONED ACCELERATING ALL OF LATITUDE, INCLUDING CAR TO 2032. WHAT IMPACT WILL THIS HAVE ON CITY RESOURCES TO MANAGE THIS AS RECENT HISTORY AS SHOWN 500 CLOSINGS A YEAR? UM, CAMPBELL? WELL, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AN ANSWER TO THE, THE, IN TERMS OF CITY RESOURCES AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO JUST LEFT MENTIONED IT, THIS WILL BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT. AND I'VE ALWAYS SAID MY FIRST CHOICE IS SOMEBODY COME UP WITH $30 MILLION AND, AND PRESERVE IT FOREVER. BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S NOT THE REAL WORLD. AND, UH, NOBODY HAS $30 MILLION. THE NEXT BEST OPTION IS TO EXTEND [02:40:01] MARGARITAVILLE BECAUSE IF IT WAS DEVELOPED AS, LET'S SAY THE MORGAN TRACK WHERE YOU HAVE YOUNG FAMILIES WHO ARE COMMUTING TO WORK, WHO HAVE SCHOOL BUSES COMING IN, ALL THE THINGS THAT, THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING IN THAT WOULD BE FAR MORE, UH, STRESSFUL ON CITY'S RESOURCES THAN THIS. WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT AND HIRE AN EXTRA COP TO GO INTO MARGARITAVILLE RIGHT AWAY. YES, WE'RE GONNA ADD, ADD THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, BUT THAT WILL BE DONE REGARDLESS OF WHAT DEVELOPMENT GOES IN BECAUSE WE ARE COMMITTED TO HAVING FIRE STATIONS WITHIN EVERY FIVE MILES OF, OF, UH, OF EACH OTHER. SO, UH, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS, IT IS LESS STRESSFUL ON CITY RESOURCES THAN SOME OTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. MIKE, DO YOU WANNA FURTHER ELABORATE ON THAT? UH, YEAH, MR. MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY. I MEAN, AN AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITY, I MEAN, I PROBABLY HIGHER EMS CALLS FOR SERVICE. BUT AGAIN, UM, WE HAVE A FIRE STATION THERE AND OBVIOUSLY THANK THANK, THANK THE LORD, AFTER A LOT OF WORK. WE'VE DONE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT AND TRANSPORT. SO I MEAN, WE WE'RE GETTING GEARED UP. UM, AND THAT'S WHY ALSO THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO PAY DEVELOPMENT FEES. SO THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE CAPITAL, UH, AND OTHER RESOURCE NEEDS AS THESE, AS THESE COMMUNITIES GROW. SO I, AGAIN, YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T ALWAYS LOOK AT EVERYTHING AT DOLLARS AND CENTS, BUT ECONOMICALLY WISE, BASED ON THE DEMAND FOR SERVICE VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE PAYING IN PROPERTY TAXES AND, AND OTHER FEES, I, I THINK IT MORE AND MORE THAN COMPENSATES FOR THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE CITY. THANK YOU. AND I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER POINT THAT I PROBABLY NEGLECTED BEFORE IN, IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE LOOKED AT. AND, AND THIS IS ALL DEPENDENT ON MARKET RATE, BUT IF THIS RATE OF SALES CONTINUE, WE, IF YOU RECALL AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, I PROPOSED A COMPROMISE, A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD GET THAT BACK ROAD OPENED FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC SOONER. AND WHAT MINTO HAS AGREED TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT BACK ROAD IS OPEN AND ACCESSIBLE BEFORE ANY PERMIT IN PHASE THREE GETS DONE. THAT MEANS THAT PHASE ONE IS 450 HOMES, PHASE TWO IS 450 HOMES. SO IT, THEY WILL START APPLYING FOR PERMITS IN PHASE THREE, LONG BEFORE PHASE TWO IS DONE. IF YOU DO THE MATH IN WHAT THE, HOW THE RATE OF SALES ARE GOING AND EVERYTHING, THAT MEANS THAT THAT BACK ROAD SHOULD BE OPEN BY ABOUT 2028. YEAH. AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS, 2031. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME TO, TO ANALYZE THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR THESE FIGURES AND WHY I ASKED FOR THAT COMPROMISE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE. DOES IT, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WANT IT OPEN TOMORROW, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH ANY COMPROMISE THERE ARE, EVERYBODY GIVES A LITTLE BIT TO COME UP WITH A BETTER PLAN. AND I THINK THAT, UH, THAT THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THIS CASE. UM, SO BEFORE I ASK FOR A VOTE, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? NOTHING ON FACEBOOK, JUAN? NO, SIR. OKAY. YES, SIR. I'M A LITTLE BIT CONFUSED. UM, THE POINT THAT, UM, STEVE TALBOTT BROUGHT, ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AT ALL? IT FELT LIKE, TO ME IT WAS JUST HANGING. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT, HOW WE'D, HOW TO ADDRESS IT. I, I DON'T EITHER, JOHN. I MEAN, WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER WAS THAT, THAT THAT SITE WOULD BE PRESERVED AS WELL AS THE, I, I DON'T KNOW. UH, DO, I DON'T KNOW IF I, WHAT STEVE IS ASKING FOR IS, UM, A, A VIEWING PLATFORM, STEVE, IS THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND COUNSEL, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT STEP? WHAT I'M ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH US, THE VETERANS GROUP, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MEMORIALIZE THAT LOCATION. WHETHER IT BE A BOARDWALK AND A, AND A, A VIEWING PLATFORM, A FENCE WITH A GATE. I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO, BECAUSE IF THERE IS STILL SIX BODIES OUT THERE, [02:45:01] I WANT THEM MEMORIALIZED. UM, MR. MAYOR, THAT'S WHEN I REQUESTED EARLIER THAT THE OPEN LINE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MINTO AND THE AGENCIES INVOLVED IN THE VETERANS GROUP HAS TO BE KEPT OPEN. THIS ISN'T GONNA GET TAKEN CARE OF TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY, THAT'S FOR SURE. BUT GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME, THERE IS A TIME, THERE'S A TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITHIN. IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TOMORROW. SO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND THAT SOLUTION. YES. THE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE IN TIME. THAT, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, CAN WE WORK TOGETHER ON THIS? WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE AGENCIES FIRST. WE'LL WORK TOGETHER. WELL, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT HE'S GONNA WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES FIRST. NO, NO, NO. THEY HAVE TO GET THROUGH THOSE AGENCIES FIRST. YEAH. THEY HAVE TO WORK. THERE'S GOVERNING AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE THAT HAS MORE SAY THAN ANY OF US HAVE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, STEVE, HE CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ANSWER UNTIL HE GETS AN ANSWER FROM THE STATE AGENCIES. AND IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? I'M NOT TRYING TO, YES, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? FEDERAL AGENCIES AND DISCUSSION ABOUT BUILDING A BOARDWALK OR SOMETHING OUT THERE. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE WETLAND IMPACTS, GOING BACK TO THE CORE STARTING PROCESSES ALL OVER AGAIN. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO PRESERVE THEM IN PERPETUITY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. UM, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL THE AGENCIES. I CAN'T GIVE AN ANSWER 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE REALLY THE GOVERNING ANSWER, THE FINAL SAY IN IT. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND STEVE, HERE'S, HERE'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT, AND I, I'LL ASK THE COUNCIL WHAT THEY WANT. THERE IS NO MEMORIALIZATION OF THAT SITE AND THERE HASN'T BEEN SINCE 1940 WHATEVER THAT IT HAPPENED. OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S BEING DEVELOPED TO ADD ONE. NOW, I, I WOULD OFFER A BETTER SOLUTION IS TO, TO MEMORIALIZE IT RATHER THAN HAVE PEOPLE GOING, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GO INTO MARGARITAVILLE. OH NO, I'M, AND WHAT, LET ME, LET ME FINISH. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU IS MEMORIALIZE IT IN OUR NEW VETERANS PARK AND, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY, YOU KNOW, TELL THE HISTORY, MEMORIALIZE IT. I, AND I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN TO THE COUNCIL, BUT IS, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, MAYBE MR. ANYBODY GOT ANOTHER IDEA? I, WELL, I'M JUST THINKING MAYBE, UM, STEVE HAD COME UP WITH ANOTHER, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE PLAQUE, A LITTLE FI A LITTLE TINY LITTLE FENCED AREA WITH A PLAQUE. THAT WAY YOU WOULDN'T BE, UM, WETLANDS IMPACT AND IT WOULD BE MORE, OR LIKE, PEOPLE WOULDN'T BE WALKING ON IT NECESSARILY, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST A LITTLE PLACE WITH A PLAQUE AND IT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED, I GUESS YOU'D SAY. I, I GUESS THAT'S ALL I'M MEANT. I'M NOT ASKING OPEN IT UP. HOW WOULD THAT WORK? DUTCH? THAT WOULD BE OKAY, WOULDN'T IT? A LITTLE, DON'T OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. I'M ALEX SWEENEY. I'M A ARCHEOLOGIST. I'M AN ARCHEOLOGIST FROM SAVANNAH, GEORGIA, AND I WORKED ON THIS PROJECT. SO YOU READING THE REPORT WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT I WORKED ON. I JUST KIND OF WANNA GO THROUGH A FEW THINGS WITH REGARDS TO CULTURAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT LAW. UM, THIS SITE IS DETERMINED, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROTECTED AS IT BEING ELIGIBLE UNDER THE NATIONAL, UM, MM-HMM. HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT. WE IDENTIFIED IT, WE BASICALLY GAVE THE LOCATION TO THE DEVELOPERS AND THEY BASICALLY REDESIGNED THE DEVELOPMENT TO AVOID THAT AREA. WE HAVE TO KIND OF NOT PRESENT THE LOCATION BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID OF PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE AND LOOTING THE SITE. I UNDERSTAND. SO BY PUTTING UP SOME KIND OF LIKE PLAQUE OR SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO, WOULD BE WELCOMING THEM TO ACCESS THE SITE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT. THAT'S ALSO WHAT THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE WOULD WANT TO DO. THEY DON'T WANT THE LOCATION OF THE SITE REVEALED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF FIGURE A WAY TO DEAL WITH MEMORIALIZING THIS WITHOUT IT BEING THE SPECIFIC LOCATION OF THE NIGHT CRASH ITSELF. IF I MAY SAY THIS MEETING HAS JUST BEEN BROADCAST ALL OVER. SO THE, UH, SECRECY OF THE, THESE ITEMS AND WHERE THEY'RE POSSIBLY LOCATED. WE, WE WE'RE PAST THAT POINT RIGHT NOW. NOW MY CONCERN IS THAT WE PROTECT THOSE PLACES NOW, NOT THE MAPS. MOST OF THIS IS GONNA BE PUBLIC RECORD. IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE A, AN ENGINEER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THESE ARE, WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PROTECT THOSE PLACES UNTIL WE HAVE A FINAL ANSWER, RESTRICT ACCESS FROM ONE. AND HOW IS THAT PROPOSED TO BE DONE? THAT'S OUR, THAT'S THE QUESTION YOU ALL HAVE TO WORK FOR, WORK ON. YEAH. I MEAN, AS FAR AS RESTRICTING ACCESS MM-HMM. IN THIS PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. NOT, BUT AS SOON AS YOU START CONSTRUCTION IN THERE, YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE GO AHEAD, SIT. LIKE, LET ME, 'CAUSE OF ITS NATURE WHERE IT IS. MM-HMM. , THERE'S GOING TO BE EROSION CONTROL, PROTECTION SOT FENCE IN PLACE THAT WILL DETER PEOPLE FROM GOING IN THOSE AREAS. WELL DETER ERIC, ERIC'S POINT, YOU DON'T WANT TO, [02:50:01] I MEAN, AGAIN, IT'S GENERALLY SHOWN, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY WANNA PINPOINT IT EITHER. NO, WE DON'T. FAIR ABOUT WE, WE WE DON'T, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S STILL A, A SITE THAT'S GONNA DRAW ATTENTION. SO CAN SOMEBODY ACCESS THAT? CAN I JUST GO WALK THAT PROPERTY AND GET ON THAT PLACE RIGHT NOW? IF I, IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TRESPASS NO, NO, NO. I'M SAYING BESIDES, I'M NOT BEING, I'M NOT BEING STY. BUT YOU'VE HAD, YOU WOULD WITHOUT DONE. EXACTLY. YEAH, YOU DO NOT. YOU HAVE A REAL DIFFICULT TIME GETTING TO IT. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT BECAUSE I, I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASCERTAIN IS, WILL EVERYDAY PEOPLE WHO LIVE SOMEPLACE ON A, B, C STREET BE ABLE TO JUST WALK IN THERE TRESPASSING ISSUES ASIDE AND JUST ACCESS, ACCESS THAT SITE? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. WE ARE NOT THROUGH THE PROCESS. YEAH. SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU RESPECT THAT. I, I THINK THAT WAS A, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO DECIDE, BUT AN IDEA OF MEMORIALIZING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE TO RESPECT THAT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE WHAT IT GETS TO AT THE END OF THE DAY TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT. THERE'S NO SECRETS IN MARGARITAVILLE THAT I CAN TELL THAT I CAN TELL YOU. BUT WE DON'T KNOW. JUST, AGAIN, THIS IS A LENGTHY PROCESS. IT IS FRANKLY KIND OF NEW TO THE AGENCIES TOO. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. I, I THINK JUST TO BE FRANK ABOUT IT, ABOUT IS NOT, NOT HAVE OTHER FOLKS WE'RE, WE ARE NOT PROMOTING THE LOCATION OF THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT. JUST PLEASE EVERYBODY WORK TOGETHER. YES, TOO. THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT TO, TO, TO, I DON'T KNOW, ARGUE OVER ANYTHING ELSE. I, I THINK, UH, MR. MESMAN PUT, PUT THE FINGER ON IT. THIS IS BETWEEN THE STEVE, WHATEVER GROUP YOU ARE, THE ARCHEO ARCHEOLOGIST, AND MINTO. IT'S, UH, I DON'T, AS FAR AS OUR AUTHORITY UP HERE AND OUR DECISION HERE, IT IS BEING PRESERVED. THAT'S OUR DECISION. HOW IT IS MEMORIALIZED IS BETWEEN, BETWEEN ALL YOU, BETWEEN Y'ALL. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. WILL, CAN WE HAVE DIALOGUE? CAN WE WORK TOGETHER? I MY SUGGESTION AGAIN IS I, I, I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT MINTOS BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH US ON, ON OTHER PROJECTS, AND I, I'M GLAD YOU CAME FORWARD, WORK WITH THEM AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I DON'T THINK IT'S A BASIS FOR OUR DECISION UP HERE TODAY. RIGHT. BECAUSE OUR DECISION IS, AND OUR, OUR APPROVAL IS THAT IT WILL BE PRESERVED. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU BILL. THANK YOU FOR COMING. I'VE GOT AROUND. I GOT OTHER, OTHER THINGS TO DO. MERRY CHRISTMAS. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO Y'ALL. OKAY. UM, COUNSEL, UM, AGAIN, YOU HEARD IT. IF, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IN THAT DISCUSSION THAT YOU WANT TO ADD TO THE MOTION, THAT'S CERTAINLY YOUR CHOICE. BUT, UH, SINCE WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AT THIS POINT, WE'VE GOTTA TAKE THE THREE ORDINANCES ONE AT A TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING. UM, AND THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 C. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE? MR. MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION ON FIRST READING, UH, ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 C. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. I'M GONNA CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. OKAY. THE SECOND READING WILL BE JANUARY 4TH. NOW SECOND PART OF THIS DECISION IS, UM, THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR THIS SAME TRACT OF LAMB. AND THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 D. [D. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT A MASTER PLAN SUBMITTAL FOR A TRACT OF LAND IDENTIFIED BY TAX MAP NUMBERS 040-00-04-006, 040-00-04-008 & 040-00-04-009 CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 2,231 ACRES LOCATED OFF OF SC HIGHWAY 46 AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE DEVELOPMENT AND TO AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE TO INDICATE THAT PORTION SUBJECT TO THE MASTER PLAN (2023-12-14D) PUBLIC HEARING] DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC? ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNSEL SEEING THAT I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 D. MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 D. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NEXT. THIS IS THE THIRD PART OF, OF THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS [02:55:01] IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND THIS [E. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE AND TWO BRIDGE BLUFF, LLC OWNER OF THE LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE “KARRAH TRACT” (2023-12-14E) PUBLIC HEARING] IS, UM, MR. ZIBO, DO WE NEED FURTHER INFORMATION? JUST QUICKLY? I MEAN, HE, HE SPENT ALL THIS TIME DOING A SLIDE. MR. MAYOR, WE GOT SEE IT RIGHT? SHOW YOUR BEST TOO. YEAH, MAN, THAT'LL WEAR THAT TIE. I'LL HAVE TO WATCH HIS SON GOT YOUR HEARING. IT'S FINE. MME. CLARK, WOULD YOU PUT UP THAT TIME THING? THAT JUST KIDDING, KIDDING, KIDDING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. I'LL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF AND YOU'VE COVERED THIS ALREADY IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS, BUT JUST TO KIND OF REEMPHASIZE SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS ONE AND THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT. UM, AGAIN, AS AS, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, UH, WE HAVE NOW, UM, ADDED IN DEVELOPMENT FEES, UH, THAT INCLUDE THE OFFSITE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. AND THAT IS IN ADDITION TO ANYTHING REQUIRED BY THE TIA, UH, MR. NEW WEILER SAID THAT ALREADY, UH, APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION IN DA FEES, INCLUDING 4 MILLION FOR ROADS, WE CHANGED THE ADJUSTMENT FACTOR TO BE EITHER THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX OR 3%, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. SO THAT BEING SAID, THE NUMBERS I JUST TOLD YOU AREN'T ACCURATE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GOING TO GO UP OVER TIME. UM, THOSE THAT WAS CALCULATED IN TODAY'S DOLLARS. AND THEN, UH, ALSO OF COURSE THE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE FOR THE CIVIC AND PARK SITE DONATIONS. AND JUST, YOU KNOW, I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, THAT, YOU KNOW, 40% LESS IMPACTS TO WETLANDS WITH, WITH THIS DESIGN. THE PARK SITE IS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC IN THIS NEW LOCATION. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 1200 ACRES ARE COMPLETELY UNDISTURBED ON THE SITE. I JUST THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT. SO UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU, MATT. WELCOME. DONE. THANK YOU. BEAUTIFUL SLIDE. COME ON ONE SLIDE. . IT WAS GREAT JOB. IT WAS A STRUGGLE. LEMME TELL YOU ALL THIS. THEY'RE VERY PRECISE. ALL THAT TIME FOR THAT. I COULD TAKE A LESSON IN BREVITY FROM YOU, I THINK. OH, OKAY. OH, OH. AIN'T TOO BRUTE . UM, OKAY. UM, MAYOR, YES. IF I MAY, JUST BRIEFLY, UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO DO A NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, ON DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THERE IS A SPELLING ERROR ON THIS AGENDA. UM, SO ITEM E THAT SAYS CAR TRACKED AND IT'S, IT JUST HAS AN EXTRA A IN IT. BUT, SO FOR PURPOSES OF, UM, MAKING SURE PUBLISHED AGENDA, UM, IS CORRECTED AT THE MEETING THAT IT'S K-A-R-R-H. OH, I SEE THAT CAR. IT'S K-A-R-R-A-H. OKAY. THIS TIDE DISTRACTED HIM. IT'S . OKAY. WHY DON'T WE JUST CHANGE THE NAME? I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE IT DOWN FOR MR. SPELLING. DON'T YOU DARE YOU. YEAH, I THINK IT'S, UH, YEAH. OKAY. EVERYBODY'S A COMEDIAN TONIGHT. YES. YES. WELL, WE MUST, WE'VE BEEN HERE TOO LONG. EVERYBODY'S BEEN AROUND. JESUS, LIKE HE'S ROLLING HIS SLAP. HAPPY. SPEAKING OF BREVITY, SPEAKING OF BREVITY, LET'S GO ON. UM, DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION OR MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS THIRD PHASE? THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SEEING NONE. I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 E I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 E. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OF THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. WE'LL BE BACK HERE JANUARY 4TH. AND, UM, MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. WE'LL SEE YOU, UH, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR. NEXT WE HAVE THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND, UM, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING FOR ATTRACTIVE LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY [F. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA TO AMEND AN PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING FOR A TRACT OF LAND CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY +/- 5,136.83 ACRES GENERALLY KNOWN GENERALLY AS THE RIVERPORT PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT (SECOND AMENDED AND RESTATED) AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE (2023-12-14F) PUBLIC HEARING] 5,100 ACRES, GENERALLY KNOWN AS THE RIVER PORT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS IS THE THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED NOT THE SECOND. AND AMEND THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE. ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 F. MR. ZIBO, PLEASE. UH, MS. WOODRUFF? NO. MS. SNOWDEN. YES. GO FOR IT. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, THANK YOU FOR, FOR HAVING ME. UM, YOU WORK HERE, . NO, BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, . WE'VE GOTTEN SO MANY LAUGHS TODAY. I, LET'S MAKE OF WATER STARTING THESE MEETINGS EARLY. DOES THAT MM-HMM. KNOW WE ALL GOT FED BEFORE WE CAME. THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME SAYING THIS, AND WE'LL BE VERY QUICK. WE HAVE ANOTHER DINNER TONIGHT, SO LET'S GO . OKAY. [03:00:01] VERY QUICK ON THIS ONE. UM, RIVERPORT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THIS IS, UM, WE HAD IT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA AS THE SECOND AMENDED AND RESTATED, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE THIRD. SO WE'LL HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION FIXED TO, TO STATE THAT THE THIRD RESTATED, THIRD AMENDED AND RESTATED. UM, IT IS, AS YOU MENTIONED, 5,100 AND CHANGE ACRES. UM, THEY, IT DOES EXIST AT, UM, ALL THE WAY DOWN THE WESTERN BORDER OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, ALONG THE SAVANNAH RIVER AREA, UM, WITH ACCESS ON RIVERPORT PARKWAY EXIT THREE, FUTURE EXIT THREE, AND PARISBURG ROAD. UM, CURRENTLY IS MIXED USE, HAS RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND CIVIC. UM, PROJECT SETTING, AS I MENTIONED, IS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE AREA IN PERRYSBURG LANDING. UM, CURRENTLY CONDITIONS. THERE'S PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, WHICH IS THE RIVERPORT, UM, COMMERCE PARK. AND, UM, YOU SEE THE BUILDINGS OUT THERE AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY SEE 'EM UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND THE CONSTRUCTED AREA TO THE FIRE STATION, WHICH IS RIVERPORT PARKWAY AS PREPARING FOR EXIT THREE AND THE WIDENING OF I 95 AND EVERYTHING. UM, THERE NEEDED SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE, UM, DA AS WELL AS THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, AND DID DISCOVER A FEW THINGS, UM, THAT NEEDED TO BE ADJUSTED. ORIGINALLY IN 2009, IT WAS APPROVED AS THE RIVERPORT AND AMENDED IN 2013. PHASES ONE AND TWO HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEGUN. UM, THERE IS, AS WE'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS AND THE INCREASE IN THE GEORGIA PORT TERMINAL, UM, MORE NEED FOR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT. EXIT THREE WILL OPEN UP SOME MORE OF THIS AREA. UM, ORIGINALLY ABOVE I 95 WAS, WAS SOME COMMERCIAL, BUT MAINLY RESIDENTIAL. THIS, UM, CHANGE ADDS A A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT'LL HELP WITH THAT COM, UH, CONVERSION FACTOR THAT IT WILL ALLOW IF THE NEED IS THERE FOR THE INDUSTRIAL RATHER THAN THE RESIDENTIAL. A FACTOR TO, TO CONVERT THAT. AS WELL AS, UH, THREE ACRES OF LAND FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY SITE, WHICH WILL BE NEEDED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF I 95 AS WELL. AND A, THE ADDITION OF A FUTURE CONNECTOR ROAD THAT WILL COME THROUGH OUR COM FROM EXIT THREE OVER TO OUR COMMERCE PARK. UM, GIVE US SOME MORE OF THAT CONNECTIVITY. UM, PLANNING COMMISSION DID HEAR IT YESTERDAY. THAT'S THE CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN. UM, AND THE PLA THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CERTAINLY DOES RECOMMEND THAT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH AND, UM, JOBS AND THAT KIND OF THING, UM, ARE ALL A POSITIVE. UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO YOU AND AS DOES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. MR. LAMAR MERCER IS HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT AND, UM, I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU FURTHER INFORMATION. THE, UH, BROWNER BEFORE YOU GO, WOULD YOU PLEASE SHOW COUNSEL WHERE THE POTENTIAL HOUSING WOULD GO? IS IT LIMITED TO A CERTAIN SECTION? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT. IT WOULD BE UP, UP IN THIS AREA AT THE TOP. THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ELIMINATING. SO THIS AREA WAS MIXED TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL. THIS WOULD BE SOME OF THE AREA THAT WOULD BE CONVERTING CON CONVERTING . SO, UM, THAT IS THE AREA. BUT AS WE'VE SEEN WITH EXIT THREE COMING IN I 95 AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE PORT, UM, THAT LAND IS A, AT A PREMIUM AT THESE THESE DAYS. COUNSEL, IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHAT THE, WHAT CONVERSION MEANS? YES. MM-HMM, . OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, AND IF, IF YOU NEED FURTHER CLASS CLARIFICATION, ASK WHEN YOUR TURN COMES UP. UH, MR. CARROLL, YOU WANNA LEAD US OFF? I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. MR. MAYOR. OKAY. UH, MR. WHITE. DITTO. I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS. MR. MANN. THIS IS WHAT THE, IT WAS DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, BASICALLY CONVERTING, UH, RESIDENTIAL UNITS INTO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IS THIS WHAT WE'RE THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AND THERE'S ALREADY CONVERSIONS THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR IN THE P-D-D-P-D-D ANYWAY, THIS KIND OF BRINGS A LITTLE BIT SOME OF THAT FORWARD AND, AND ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL CONVERSIONS BASED ON, AGAIN, WHAT WE SEE MARKET CONDITIONS CONTINUING TO BE. UM, AND I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO CORRECT MYSELF 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER SAID IT RIGHT. THAT FIRE STATION SITE NORTH OF THE, OF 95 AND THE INTERCHANGE IS EAST OF WHERE BURG ROAD IS. RIGHT? YOU'RE GETTING IT. OH, ALL RIGHT. THEY, FOR ONE. OH WOW. I'M NOT EVEN GONNA TRY. UH, BUT NO, THANK YOU. AND I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, UH, ESPECIALLY LEGAL TEAM, I THINK HAD REACHED OUT TO PNA. [03:05:01] THEY GOT, THEY APOLOGIZED. THEY'RE NOT HERE TODAY. 'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S TWO ACTIONS BEING TAKEN. THEY, THEY HAD SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE DATE AND TIME OF THE MEETING, SO THEY APOLOGIZE. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. YOU JUST MOVED FROM ONE SIDE OF THE AISLE THERE TO THE OTHER. YOU GO BACK. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED ENOUGH WITH EXIT THREE THAT, UH, THEY DON'T NEED ANY MORE QUESTIONS FROM ME. UM, AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE PUBLIC, DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, UH, ORDINANCE? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 F. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 F. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OF THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. THIS IS ALSO, UM, REGARDING, UH, THAT AREA IN RIVERPORT AND, AND EXIT THREE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF TO THE CITY OF HARVILLE, PROVING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO AND THE PARTIAL REINSTATEMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HARVILLE AND SLF [G. FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA APPROVING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO AND PARTIAL RESTATEMENT OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE AND SLF-III HARDEEVILLE, LLC OWNER OF THE LAND WITHIN THE CITY OF HARDEEVILLE, COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE "RIVERPORT TRACT." (2023-12-14G) PUBLIC HEARING] HARDY, LLC, OWNER OF THE LAMP. MR. ZIBO? YEAH, THE ONLY COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE, MR. MAYOR, WHICH I KNOW THE MAYOR'S WELL AWARE. SO, UH, SOME OF THE CHANGES ARE MOST OF THE CHANGES. UM, WE RELATE TO OBVIOUSLY THE PDD CONVERSION AND, AND SOME OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BASED ON NEED AND MARKET AND ALL THAT. BUT THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS INCORPORATING, IT SEEMS LIKE OUR ENDLESS DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE OWNER AND THE STIB AND THE STATE ABOUT THE EXIT THREE FINANCING. SO A LOT OF THAT STUFF BASED ON THE OWNER'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO EXIT THREE, AS WELL AS RIVERPORT PARKWAY, NORTH AND SOUTH, HAD TO BE AMENDED TO THE DA. SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT ALL THOSE CHANGES OR THE AMENDMENTS ARE IN THE DOCUMENT. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UNLESS MS. MAIN SAYS ANYTHING ELSE, I DON'T. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, LET ME SEE, UH, WE'LL START WITH MR. MESMAN. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? UM, NO, SIR. I THINK STAFF HAS DONE EVERYTHING POSSIBLE AND INFORMED US WELL, MRS. GUZMAN? NO QUESTIONS, SIR. MR. WHITE, I'VE GOT 23 AND LET ME START. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. UH, YEAH. GOOD. MY, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD WORK DONE AHEAD OF TIME ON THIS. OKAY, MR. CARROLL? NO QUESTIONS. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS EITHER. BUT NOW WE'LL ASK THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 G. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 G. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. A AYE. OKAY. UH, NEXT ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL CHRISTMAS. YOU ALL? CHRISTMAS. YOU CAN GO HOME NOW. NO, I CAN'T. I GOTTA GO BACK AND WORK MORE, BUT THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, NEXT [H. APPROVAL OF 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATES (2023-12-14H) PUBLIC COMMENT] WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE 2024 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATES. UH, THIS IS, UM, 2023 DASH 12 DASH 14 H. UM, ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL? WE'RE STILL THE FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH. ONE MEETING IN DECEMBER. OKAY. I, I'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED DATES WHERE I KNOW WHERE I WILL BE GONE. I'VE SUBMITTED THEM TO ROBIN, SO. OKAY. UM, ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE, UH, THE DATES FOR 2024 COUNCIL MEETINGS? OKAY. UH, IN THAT CASE, I'D LIKE A, UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE DATES. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATES, WHICH WOULD BE 2023 DASH 12 DASH [03:10:01] 14 EACH. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. [X. MANAGERS REPORT] AYE. AYE. OKAY. UH, MR. ZIBO? YES, SIR. UH, TWO QUICK REPORTS FROM ME AND I ASKED MR. DAVIS TO DO, GIVE YOU A REPORT QUICKLY ON THE, UM, ARJA BOULEVARD PROJECTS AND THEN CHIEF CAMP ON THE, UH, NEW FLEET WE WILL BE RECEIVING. SO QUICKLY FOR ME, JANUARY 16TH, IT WILL BE OUR ANNUAL RETREAT. I'LL BE SENDING OUT THE AGENDA VERY SOON. SO IF YOU COULD PEN THAT IN JANUARY 16TH, PROBABLY FROM EIGHT TO 3 30, 3 45, UM, AND YOU'LL GET, YOU WILL GET THE AGENDA ON THAT. AND YOU MIGHT EVEN HAVE A LITTLE HOMEWORK TO DO BEFORE, SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU, GIVING YOU SOME NOTICE. UM, AND THEN JUST FINALLY, MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY NEW YEAR. BE SAFE. ENJOY YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS, MR. DAVIS. I DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES THIS TIME. WHOA. ALRIGHT. UM, YES, MR. ASK ME TO GIVE YOU PARDON? STILL GOT THAT TIE THOUGH, . WELL, ANYONE KNOWS ME KNOWS. I'M REALLY A KID, SO I'M GONNA WEAR A, IT'S NICE. I LIKE IT. SO, UM, YEAH, I DID WANNA GIVE YOU A FEW UPDATES WHERE WE ARE ON THINGS. UH, SO I THINK I'VE GOT FOUR THAT I WANNA TALK TO YOU ABOUT. SO, ARGENT SHORTCUT JASPER STATION, OUR FAMOUS INTERSECTION WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LONGEST. UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF DELAYED FOR A LONG TIME WITH THE ISSUE WITH THE WATERLINE RELOCATION WITH BJWS. A SECOND ROUND OF COMMENTS HAVE BEEN, WERE RECEIVED ON, UH, TUESDAY THIS WEEK. UM, THEY WERE MUCH SMALLER LIST THAN THE LAST TIME. SO OUR ENGINEERS WORKING ON THOSE AND GETTING THOSE TAKEN CARE OF. THE WETLAND PERMIT HAS BEEN OBTAINED. UM, WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE, UH, DOING THE RIGHT OF WAY WORK RIGHT NOW. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S BEEN A BIG HELP. UH, WE NEED BOTH PROPERTY AND CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS FROM VARIOUS PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND THAT INTERSECTION. WORKING ON THAT, UH, WE WOULD EXPECT TO RECEIVE FINAL APPROVALS AND BID. AND HOPEFULLY, I THINK I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT SAYING, WE'LL, WE'LL ABLE TO BID THE PROJECT IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR OUR, UH, PERMITS FROM DEC, THE CZC, WHICH IS THE, UH, UH, COASTAL ZONE CONSISTENCY. AND JUST BECAUSE I WANNA SHARE THIS JUST BECAUSE AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS MY FAVORITE, JIMMY BUFFETT USED TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULDN'T LAUGH, WE'D ALL GO INSANE. SO WE WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A YEAR FOR THE COASTAL ZONE CONSISTENCY. AND, UM, FROM DIRECTLY FROM THE WEBSITE, THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL COASTAL ZONE CONSISTENCY CERTIFICATION IS TO PROVIDE A MEANS BY WHICH CERTAIN ACTIVITIES DETERMINED TO HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT AND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA COASTAL ZONE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM MAY BE AUTHORIZED WITH MINIMAL DELAY. SO IF THAT'S MINIMAL DELAY, I THAT'S, YOU CAN LAUGH OR CRY, I DON'T KNOW. BUT ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING. UH, MOVING ON, ARGENT NEW RIVER, EAST EAST ARGENT PARKWAY, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION WILL SUPPORT A TEMPORARY SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION. UM, THEY LOOKED AT, THEY SAW A CONCEPT DRAWING, THEY WOULD, IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THEM. DESIGN IS ARE UNDERWAY ON THAT AS WE SPEAK. THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN, IN VERY EARLY JANUARY OF 24. WE'LL THEN SUBMIT THAT TO S-C-D-O-T FOR APPROVAL. THERE ARE NO WETLANDS OR OTHER PERMITS THAT SHOULD BE, THAT, UM, SHOULD BE, NEED TO BE OBTAINED. AND, AND THEY, WHAT WE DO NEED SHOULD BE IN A TIMELY MANNER AS THE DISTURBED AREA WILL BE LESS THAN A OF A A HALF ACRE AND WORK ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, THE WORK ALSO CONTINUES ON THE FINAL DESIGN OF THAT INTERSECTION WITH ALL THE, THE VARIOUS TURN LANES. UM, THE LEFT TURN ARROW THAT WE ARROW THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FROM EASTBOUND US 2 78 TO LAKESIDE BOULEVARD. UM, WE DID AUTHORIZE COUNTS TO BE TAKEN THERE AND LOOKED AT CRASH CRASH DATA AS WELL. UNFORTUNATELY, THE WARRANTS JUST ARE NOT CURRENTLY MET. THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TURNS TO WARRANT THAT. THAT'S SIGNAL BEING A PROTECTED, YOU KNOW, SOLID LEFT, THAT IT JUST DOESN'T MEET IT. UM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR, MONITOR THAT. AND AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN WEST ARGENT, WE'LL REVISIT THOSE COUNTS FROM TIME TO TIME. AND AS SOON AS WE GET THERE, WE WILL, WE WILL GET THAT DONE. UM, FINALLY, THE UM, US 2 78 LEFT TURN LANES ONTO BOTH LAKESIDE AND LATITUDE BOULEVARDS. THAT'LL PROVIDE TWO LEFT TURN LANES, UH, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND LENGTHEN THOSE TURN LANES. THAT'LL HELP WITH THE EXISTING BACKUPS ON 2 78, IF YOU'VE SEEN IT IN THE MORNING. HEADED E PARTICULARLY EASTBOUND. UM, THAT'S BECAUSE THAT LIGHT IS CYCLING VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY CARS TURNING INTO MARGARITAVILLE, BOTH RESIDENTS AND AND CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES THAT THE, THEY, THEY PROJECT BACK OUT, THEY EXCEED THE TURN LANE AND THEY, THEY'RE IN THE TRAVEL LANE. SO THEY WANNA CYCLE THAT THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S A DANGEROUS CONDITION. SO, EXCUSE ME, MATT IS YES, SIR. IS THAT EASTBOUND OR WESTBOUND? EAST. EAST. THE EASTBOUND LANE. EASTBOUND. EASTBOUND BACKS UP EASTBOUND HEADING LIKE TOWARDS BUFTON HILTON HEAD. IT BACKS UP TO JOHN SMITH ROAD EVERY MORNING. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. UM, BECAUSE IT'S, BECAUSE THE LEFT'S TURNING INTO MARGARITAVILLE ON WESTBOUND. MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, THEY CAUSE THAT LIGHT TO CYCLE SO MUCH SO OFTEN BECAUSE THEY'RE BACKING UP INTO THE THROUGH LANE. SO ANY WORD ON THE WESTBOUND EXTENSIONS WE'RE DOING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, SAME TIME. OKAY. YES SIR. THAT MADE [03:15:01] MORE SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY. SO SURVEY WORK'S BEEN COMPLETED, THE DESIGN IS UNDERWAY AND WE ARE EXPECT, WE EXPECT TO HAVE THAT DESIGNED BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. WE'LL THEN SUBMIT FOR PERMITS THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES OR, AND NEW UTILITIES. SO RELATIVELY SPEAKING, THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICK TO, TO PERMIT AND THEN WE CAN GET THAT OUT TO BID. AND THEN FINALLY THERE IS, UM, ALSO, THIS IS NOT A CITY PROJECT AT ALL, BUT AT US 2 78 AT ARJUN BOULEVARD, THAT'S AN S-E-D-O-T PROJECT THAT THEY DESIGNED THE SIGNAL A WHILE BACK. THEY WERE UNABLE TO AWARD THE CONTRACT. THEY COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO DO THE WORK. UM, BUT THEY GAVE US AN UPDATE. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BID THAT SOMETIME IN 2024. AND ONE THING THAT THEY'VE ADDED TO THE PROJECT THAT THEY DID NOT BEFORE IS THEY'RE GONNA LENGTHEN THAT LEFT TURN LANE ONTO ARGENT. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT BACKS UP. THAT'S A VERY UNSAFE SITUATION. AND WE TOLD THEM FROM THE BEGINNING LIKE, YOU GOTTA DO THAT. AND THEY SAID WE'RE NOT DOING IT. BUT ANYWAY, NOW THEY'RE GONNA DO IT. SO THAT'S GOOD. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ON ALL THOSE. SO MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR AND I WILL SEE YOU IN 2024. SO, HOLD ON MATT, YOU SAID SORRY. I'M SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. , HE'S RUNNING. HE WAS HEADED TO THE DOOR. SO YOU ARE SAYING EASTBOUND 2 78 TURNING LEFT INTO MA INTO HILTON HEAD LAKES TO SAY WE DON'T WARRANT A DEDICATE. THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TURNS AT THIS TIME. AND I DON'T, I'M NOT THE TRAFFIC EXPERT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH AT, YOU KNOW, AT AT THE PEAK HOURS TO, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NOT DELAYS. WE ALL AGREE THERE ARE, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH OF THEM YET TO, TO MAKE, TO MEET THAT WARRANT. YEAH, BUT CAN'T THEY INCREASE THE TIME A LITTLE BIT? YEAH. WHEN THEY'RE TURNING ON THE LIGHT INSTEAD OF, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IF THEY, IF THEY'RE NOT WARRANTED A INDEPENDENT ONE, CAN'T THEY EXTEND THE LENGTH OF TIME FOR THE TURN LANE? TURN LIGHT A LITTLE BIT. THE ARROW? WELL, THAT'S JUST IT. THERE IS NO, THERE IS NO LIGHT FOR THE TURN LANE. THERE'S JUST A FLASHING YELLOW. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. IT, IT WON'T, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET 'EM TO DO A GREEN, BUT THEY, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH TURNS TO THE KILLER YELLOW TO REQUIRE THAT YET. OKAY. THE KILLER YELLOW. 'CAUSE WE ALL GUN THROUGH THE RED LIGHT. RIGHT. DO THEY, DOES THE TRAFFIC STUDY, DO THEY TAKE THE TYPE OF VEHICLES GOING IN THERE? THEY JUST TAKE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UH, LOG TRUCK OR SEMI TURNING TAKES A LONG TIME AND YEAH, THEY TAKE THREE TIMES AS LONG AS A CAR. NO, BECAUSE THEY JUST LOOK AT THE, THE NUMBER OF TURNING VEHICLES. OKAY. WOW. THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN, I CAN DRUM UP, DRUM UP A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS TO GO AND HIT THAT TURN IN, UH, IN A DAY. UM, WE DID IT. TALK TO ME OFFLINE. UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE. YEAH. TELL US WHEN THEY'RE DOING A SURVEY. WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN. I'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN. I HAVE NO DOUBT. THAT'S IT. MATT. I JUST GIVE YOU SOME HOLIDAY HOMEWORK AND REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL NEXT MONTH. RIGHT. PLEASE FIND OUT FROM S-C-D-O-T IF THERE ARE ANY LAWS THAT, UH, REGARDING THE FREQUENCY OF LIGHT AND THE DISTANCE REQUIRED BETWEEN LIGHTS. OH YEAH. DON'T ANSWER IT. JUST WOULD YOU PLEASE UNDERSTOOD. CHECK, CHECK INTO THAT FIRST. I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO. THE WOULD THE TURN THING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. LET'S, LET'S FIND THAT MORE FACTS. GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. HI CHIEF. GOOD NEWS. UH, MYSELF, UH, CHIEF FAIRCHILD AND ENGINEER ELLENBERG WENT DOWN TO A CALA LAST WEEK WHERE OUR RIGS ARE GETTING MADE AND DID OUR FINAL INSPECTION ON THE THREE PUMPERS THAT WE ORDERED OVER 18 SOMETHING MONTHS AGO. UM, SO I JUST GOT SOME, I BROUGHT BACK SOME PICTURES FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT. SOME NICE PRETTY PICTURES. WOW, IT LOOKS TERRIBLE UP THERE. UM, THEY LOOK REAL BETTER. BETTER IN REALITY. THAT'S REALLY UGLY. BUT ANYWAY, THIS, THE, THE THREE ENGINES, UM, THEY'RE DONE. SO WE WENT DOWN AND WE INSPECTED THEM. UM, THERE'S SOME MINOR THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO REPAIR, OF COURSE. UM, THERE'S ONE INSIDE THE FULL VIEW OF IT. YEAH, THAT'S THE BEST PICTURE. WHY IS THERE ONLY THREE SLIDES? . ALL RIGHT. WELL, APPARENTLY, UH, THE SLIDESHOW GOT CUT SHORT. UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, Y'ALL , UH, WHILE WE WERE THERE, WE WENT TO THE, UH, AERIAL PLANT AS WELL AND DID A MIDPOINT INSPECTION OF THE AERIAL DEVICE. THE A HUNDRED FOOT AERIAL THAT'S GONNA BE AT STATION 82. UM, IT'S LOOKING VERY GOOD. IT LOOKS THE SAME. JUST GOT A BIG A HUNDRED FOOT LADDER ON THE TOP. UM, WE'LL SEND OUT SOME PICTURES TO YOUR EMAIL SO Y'ALL CAN SEE THOSE. UH, IT LOOKS GOOD. WE'LL BE GOING BACK DOWN MID-JANUARY ISH TO DO A FINAL INSPECTION ON IT. BUT THESE THREE RIGS SHOULD BE IN THE CITY WITHIN THIS MONTH SOMETIME. GREAT. AND THEN WE'LL GET TO WORKING ON THEM, YOU KNOW, MOUNTING ALL THE EQUIPMENT INSIDE OF IT, GETTING READY TO MOVE EVERYTHING OVER TO 'EM. SO HOPEFULLY FEBRUARY WE'LL HAVE BOTH RIGS, ALL THE RIGS HERE AND IN SERVICE COME FEBRUARY. YES. THE OLD, THE, THE, THE RETIRED RIGS THEY'RE GOING INTO, THEY ARE PART OF THE DEAL THAT WE PURCHASED. SO THEY'RE THE, OKAY. THEY'RE GONE. THE SAFE INDUSTRY IS GONNA TAKE THEM AWAY. OKAY. UM, THESE THREE, THESE THREE PUMPERS, WHERE, WHICH LOCATIONS ARE THEY GONNA BE AT? 81, 82, 83. AND THEN THE CURRENT, UH, HME THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PURCHASED FOR STATION [03:20:01] 84 IS GONNA GO DOWN TO STATION 84. OKAY. STEVE, WHAT'S YOUR PROJECTION IN TERMS OF THE SHELF LIFE OF THE ? UH, 10 YEARS, FIRST OUT, FIVE YEARS IN RESERVE. OKAY. SO 15 YEARS TOTAL. WE COULD KEEP THEM, RUN 'EM HARD. GOOD FOR 10 YEARS AT LEAST. GOOD. AND THEN DEPENDING ON HOW THEY, THEY, WELL, THEY CAN GO UP TO 15 IF WE HA IF THEY WERE STILL IN GOOD CONDITION AND WE, AND WE KEEP 'EM IN GOOD REPAIR, THEY CAN LAST 15 AS WELL. WHAT'S THE AGE OF THE ONES WE HAVE NOW? UM, I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT. . UM, WELL, ONE OF THEM IS A 2005 MODEL AND THEN THERE'S TWO THAT ARE 2010 MODELS. UM, AND THOSE, THOSE, THE 2010 MODELS ARE THE, WHAT THEY CALL COMMERCIAL CHASSIS. AND IT'S BASICALLY A DUMP TRUCK THAT THEY PUT A BOX ON. SO IT'S NOT EVEN DESIGNED TO GO THAT LONG. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, BUT IT WON'T MATTER HERE IN A COUPLE MONTHS. AND THEN WE WILL BE ALL IN THESE, THESE NEW RIGS AND RIDING DOWN THE ROAD. COUNSEL PAST COUNSEL BEFORE I GOT HERE, THEY SAW THE NEED FOR THIS AND PASSED ALL THIS ALONG. IT'S LIKE THE, THE AMBULANCE. IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT BOY, IT'S MAKING PROGRESS. YEAH. MM-HMM. . HOW BUSY HAS THAT? UH, AMBULANCE? UM, AS OF YESTERDAY MORNING, IT WAS, I BELIEVE 18 TOTAL TRANSPORTS. OH, NICE. SO IT'S GETTING BUSIER. UM, DEFINITELY PICKING UP IN THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE DAYS. THEY'VE HAD MORE THAN THEY HAVE, I THINK IN THE LAST WEEK, . SO, BUT IT'S GOING VERY WELL. THANK YOU. AND STEVE, WHEN YOU BUILD YOUR BUDGET, NOW THAT WE KNOW IT'S 10 AND FIVE MM-HMM. IN TERM, DO YOU BUILD IN ADEQUATE FUNDS FOR YOURSELF? AND ARE WE GIVING YOU ADEQUATE FUNDS TO HAVE THE MAINTENANCE? THE MAINTENANCE? YES. FROM TIME TO TIME CRITICAL. ACTUALLY, THIS, GETTING THESE IN IS ACTUALLY REDUCE THAT MAINTENANCE BUDGET THIS COMING YEAR BECAUSE THEY'RE, THE, THE, THE RIGS THAT WE HAVE WERE SO OLD THAT THEY WERE JUST, I MEAN, WE'RE COST TOOK A LOT MORE MONEY. MONEY IN THEM. YES. I HEAR YOU AS OLD AS JOHN. THEY'RE NOT, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT. . WHOA. WAIT A MINUTE. VAL. JOHN'S ONLY A YEAR OLDER THAN I AM, SO LET'S NOT GO COMING. DAVE, LET'S NOT GO THERE. THE END HERE. I'LL STAND OUTTA THIS ONE. YOU AND ME BOTH. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S GO IN REVERSE ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND THE LAST REPORT OF THE YEAR. WE'LL START WITH MR. WHITE. [XI. COUNCIL ISSUES AND CONCERNS] UM, I PICK THEM OUT IN TERMS OF MY ACTIVITIES OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA SAY. WELL, UM, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT A LITTLE BIT ON SORT OF THE LAST HOUR OF OUR MEETING. UM, AND THAT WHAT I, WHAT I SAW THERE WAS THE QUALITY PEOPLE WE HAVE IN DUTCH AND LAMAR. AND EVEN WITH STEVE'S POSITION AND LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE, WHAT I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN IS WITH QUALITY PEOPLE AND QUALITY OBSERVATIONS, YOU GET A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING THEM SOLVED IN A WAY THAT WORKS. AND, UH, MY COMPLIMENTS TO GETTING PEOPLE LIKE THEM, I REALLY WAS IMPRESSED WITH, UH, THEIR DEPTH AND THEIR, UH, THE QUALITY OF THEIR WORK. AND IT WAS REALLY IMPRESSIVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S A RESIDENT COME IN AND TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO. RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO FROM TIME TO TIME. AND THAT'S, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT'S BEING DONE, RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO HEAR THINGS THAT AREN'T BEING DONE RIGHT, AND THEY SHOULD BE HEARD. BUT IT WAS REFRESHING AND I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE, UH, THE QUALITY OF STEVE'S COMMENTS AND THEIR, THEIR WORKFORCE. AND I, AND SO THAT WAS MY OBSERVATION AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY IMPACTED ME, AND I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT. UH, SO THAT'S MY COMMENT. UM, MR. AMUSEMENT, UM, NOW THIS IS THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR FOR ME. IT'S A FIRST YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. SO IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A WILD RIDE. MET A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE. I HAVE, UH, NEW RESPECT FOR STAFF AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF HARDY V. SORT OF THE DEDICATION THAT EVERYBODY GIVES, UM, TONIGHT, I GUESS WAS, I'M PROUD, REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF HARDY V. DIFFICULT DECISIONS. TOOK A LOT OF HARD WORK FROM EVERYBODY GOING BACK TWO YEARS NOW, BASICALLY BACK TO THE CAR STARTING, AND WE CAME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT I THINK IS GOING TO WORK WELL. UM, THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING A FEW MONTHS BACK WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON ANOTHER PROJECT. NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE HAPPY WITH EVERY DECISION, BUT AS LONG AS YOU CAN COME TO A AGREEMENT WHERE SOMEBODY, EVERYBODY THINKS THEY'RE WALKING AWAY WITH SOMEWHAT OF A WINNER, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB. AND I THINK WE DID A GOOD JOB TONIGHT. CARR IS GONNA MOVE THE CITY ALONG. NOW [03:25:01] WE HAVE THE MORGAN GONNA MOVE THE CITY EVEN FURTHER. THE GROWTH SHOWS NO SIGN OF STOPPING. AND WITH THE STAFF AND THE WAY WE'RE GOING, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA SET SOME MORE RECORDS, NOT ONLY LOCALLY HERE, BUT STATEWIDE, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE PART OF IT. THE OTHER PART WAS, IS BACK, WE GOT THE FINAL TOTALS COUNTED FROM, UH, THE PIRATE FEST THAT I PUT ON IN MARGARITAVILLE. WE RAISED MONEY FOR IRON DOG CANINE INTERNATIONAL. WE RAISED JUST SHY OF $2,300 FOR THAT. UH, THAT ORGANIZATION IS WORKING TO SUPPLY, UH, VESTS AND POSSIBLE, UH, TRAINING FOR, UH, THE HARDY CANINE TEAMS. WITH THAT, I WISH EVERYBODY A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR, MRS. GUZMAN. OOH, I HAVE A LOT TO SAY. WE'LL BE HERE FOR ANOTHER HOUR. I, UH, I'M JUST KIDDING YOU. COMMENT ON THAT. YOU'LL BE HERE. YOU MAY, YOU MAY BE, YOU MAY BE . UM, LIKE STEVE SAID, THIS IS, UH, MY FIRST YEAR ON CITY COUNCIL. IT'S BEEN A WILD RIDE, TO SAY THE LEAST. THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN UPS AND DOWNS. UH, I GUESS THAT'S A LEARNING PROCESS. BUT THE PEOPLE THAT I REALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE TONIGHT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WORK BEHIND THE SCENES IN CITY HALL. PEOPLE THAT WE DON'T MEET EVERY DAY. PEOPLE THAT MAKE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS LOOK GOOD AND, AND IN, IN AND IN TURN MAKE US LOOK GOOD. SO THE REAL KUDOS GOES TO THOSE WHO ARE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, WHO WE DON'T GET TO SEE THE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC WORKS, THE ONES WHO ARE RIDING THOSE LAWNMOWERS, CUTTING THE GRASS, UH, THOSE KINDS OF, UH, PEOPLE, THE POLICE ON THE ROAD, UM, THE FIRE, THE FIREMEN, AND THE EMS FOLKS THAT'S ON THE ROAD, UH, DOING THEIR THING. AND, YOU KNOW, IN TURN THEY MAKE US ALL LOOK GOOD. AND SO, UH, I WANT TO THANK ALL MY CITY COUNCIL, FELLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. SAMBO AND MS. PREENA FOR HELPING ME ALONG. UH, I KNOW I'M NOT THE EASIEST PERSON TO GET ALONG WITH, BUT, UM, , , ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, . BUT, UM, BUT I, I, UH, OOH, YOU BETTER CHECK YOUR TIRES BEFORE YOU. UM, BUT I WANNA SAY, UH, WITH THE DEEPEST GRATITUDE AND THANKS, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, BRINA, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MIKE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, CHIEF WOODWARD CHIEF CAMP. UM, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL YOUR TROOPS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR. SEE Y'ALL NEXT YEAR FOR THE NEXT RIDE. MR. CARROLL. . . OH, I'M GOING TO GET HERE. TOP. HE'S BEEN, HE, HE'S GOTTEN ME TOO, SO DON'T FEEL BETTER GET HIS HERS TOO. I'M DRIVING THAT WHITE CAR. . NO, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I KNOW EVERYBODY'S READY TO GO HOME, SO I'M NOT GONNA TAKE LONG. I'VE BEEN WITH CA LONG TIME BETWEEN WORKING AND UP HERE, AND I'VE SEEN A LOT OF, A LOT OF THINGS. AND, UM, I HATE TO ADMIT IT, BUT VAL DID HIT A FEW LITTLE SPOTS THERE ABOUT THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES AND, UH, DEDICATED WORKERS. AND, UH, UM, MIKE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR A LOT OF THAT. AND SO, ANYWAY, I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY NEW, HAPPY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR. I ONLY HAVE, UH, 1314 QUICK, UH, ITEMS, BUT I WON'T SAY, UM, I LOVE YOU . I, I JUST WANNA, UM, SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE DONORS AND THE WORKERS WHO WERE INVOLVED IN SANTA'S TOY BOX. UM, WE COLLECTED FROM ALL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, PROBABLY AT LEAST 2000 TOYS. A CREW CAME IN AND WRAPPED APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THOSE, ABOUT A THOUSAND. UM, THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED TO SCHOOLS, CHURCHES. UM, AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, MRS. CHRIS CHASE OF HARVILLE, WHO ORGANIZED, UH, A DRIVE WEDNESDAY, UM, ON THE BEAUFORT COUNTY SIDE. AND WE DELIVERED ANOTHER LARGE GROUP OF TOYS TO HARDY AT THE ORLAND ELEMENTARY, UH, UH, ON WEDNESDAY. THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, INCLUDING THE PARKS AND REC PEOPLE DID A WONDERFUL JOB. OUR MEDIA DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE FILMING EVERYTHING. THE, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, WERE, I MEAN, THEY DID GREAT, GREAT WORK. SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UM, [03:30:01] HELPING TO MAKE CHRISTMAS A JOYOUS TIME FOR A LOT OF CHILDREN IN HARDY VILLAGE AND JASPER COUNTY. UM, SO HAVING SAID THAT, I'M JUST GONNA SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS. HAPPY HANUKKAH, UM, KWANZA. IF, UH, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU CELEBRATE, WHATEVER YOU CELEBRATE, PLEASE HAVE A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY. AND, AND FOR 2024, A SAFE AND HEALTHY, UM, 2024. THANK YOU ALL. UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? MOTION TO [XII. ADJOURNMENT] ADJOURN. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE A SECOND. I SLID UP THERE REAL QUICK. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. A AYE A AYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.