* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WHICH, OH, [00:00:01] SORRY, WE HAVE TO GO BACK. UM, RIGHT. SO WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AS ONE LOCATION, THE RECREATION CENTER OFF OF JOHN SMITH ROAD. BOYD STREET IS OUR THIRD LOCATION, AND OUR FOURTH LOCATION IS EVERYTHING BACK HERE BEHIND RICHARD GRAY. YEAH. SO RIGHT THERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK POST. SORRY, I TOTALLY MISSED IT. I MISSPOKE. I'M ANNU IDIOT. IT'S FINE. SORRY, YOU'RE NOT . IT'S A LOT AND IT'S REALLY WARM IN HERE. SO MUST TAKE A VOTE ON THAT . I KNOW IT WOULD BE ANONYMOUS. OKAY. ON JET LAG. SO I, I'M GONNA AMEND MY STATEMENT. I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THE BOY STREET PROJECT AS PART OF THIS. OKAY. UM, NEXT, UH, IS PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX G, MR. MAYOR WITH, UM, WITH GLEE. I MAKE A, UM, YEAH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX G. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. WOW. I'M GLAD WE GOT PAST THAT ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY I ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO WITH, WITH NINE OR 10 PROJECTS LIKE YOU HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY ABILITY TO SORT OF SAY TO SOMEONE THAT'S GETTING A BIG PROJECT, LEVERAGING THEM TO TAKE SOME OF THESE SMALLER, LESS DESIRABLE THINGS AS PART OF THE OVERVIEW PACKAGE? DO YOU DO THAT AND DO THEY RESPOND TO THAT? I'M OR AM I JUST, YOU KNOW, NO. CRAZY. NO, INDEED. THIS IS, THIS IS ALL PART OF A STRATEGY. THE STRATEGY IS TO EVENTUALLY GET CONTRACTORS ON AN IDIQ OF WHICH THEY WILL RESPOND KNOWING THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING, UM, SHOULD I SAY, PUT IN A PIPELINE, WHICH IT, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GUARANTEE FUTURE WORK, BUT IT, IT CERTAINLY HELPS THEM FEEL AS THOUGH, HEY, IF I DO THIS LITTLE ONE, THE NEXT BIG ONE'S COMING ALONG. YEAH. SO, YEAH. AND RIGHT. PRIORITIZING ANY OF THESE NINE STARTING POINTS, UH, OBVIOUSLY VOICE TREAT IS UP THERE AS A PRIORITY, SO THANK YOU. YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE SYNERGY IN MAIN. OKAY. UM, WE NEED MORE SYNERGY. ALL RIGHT. UM, NOW WE GO TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT. MR. ZIBO? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, JUST FOUR QUICK THINGS. SO THE COUNCIL DID RECEIVE, I KNOW IT WAS LONG AWAITED, PROBABLY LONG OVERDUE, BUT THE HARDY V RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE, MR. DAVIS AND THE PLANNING FOLKS, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS OF EFFORT. SO WE DID HAND THAT TO THE COUNCIL. WE WANT, WE DO WANT TO HAVE A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THAT, KIND OF GO INTO THE DETAILS AND HOW WE CAN USE THAT TOOL AS WELL AS KIND OF THE STATUS OF FIRE STATION 82 AND, UM, GIVE THE COUNCIL UPDATE ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THAT. SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. UM, NEXT FRIDAY AT 9:00 AM WE'RE GONNA HOST A DELEGATION FROM TEXAS CITY, TEXAS. I'VE, UH, TALKED TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE GONNA BE THE, OR THEY'RE CONSIDERING ANOTHER, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE FOURTH, RIGHT? 1, 2, 3 FOURTH OR FIFTH LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE. SO THEY WANNA TALK TO US ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES AND WHAT TO EXPECT AND ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S, THAT'S NEXT FRIDAY. THE MAYOR WILL BE HERE TO, TO GREET THE TEXAS CITY MAYOR. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WE DID HAVE A VERY GOOD MEETING WITH THE B-J-W-S-A TODAY, UH, LONG AWAITED. WE HAD A LAUNDRY LIST OF ISSUES. UM, THE NEW GENERAL MANAGER, I, WE'VE INVITED HER TO COME TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. HOPEFULLY SHE CAN ATTEND WITH US. UM, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. MR. PAGET ALSO, WHO'S OUR REPRESENTATIVE, WILL BECOME THE CHAIR I THINK, VERY SOON. SO WE ARE KEEPING IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH HIM ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT, UM, IS GOING ON WITH B-J-W-S-A TO MAKE SURE WE CAN, UM, FACILITATE RESOLUTION TO A BUNCH OF LONGSTANDING PROBLEMS. AND THEN FINALLY, WE, AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL KNOWS THIS, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON ATTAINABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES. UM, SO WE ARE TRYING TO FOCUS A LOT OF EFFORTS ON THAT. MATT, MATT AND I DID A VERY GOOD, UM, MEETING WITH PULTE, WHO EXPRESSED A VERY STRONG INTEREST IN WORKING WITH US ON, ON AN ATTAINABLE HOUSING FUTURE PROJECT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU MUCH. UH, MIKE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER, JUST JUST TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES. THAT'S, [00:05:01] UH, FRIDAY THE 14TH WITH TEXAS CITY, TEXAS IS 9:00 AM NOT THREE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S GO REVERSE ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND START WITH MR. WHITE TONIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, I'VE BEEN DOING SOME PREPARATION FOR DIFFERENT ORDINANCES AND POLICIES. SPENT SOME TIME WITH OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UH, ON THE PHONE EARLIER THIS WEEK. AND, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, PAM, FOR YOU. THESE, UM, PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL WE HAVE, IS THIS A FINISHED POLICY OR IS THIS A DRAFT, OR IS THIS A COURTESY GIVING US A COPY OF THE NEW HR MANUAL, SO TO SPEAK? IT, I, I CAN ANSWER THAT. IT'S, IT'S THE CURRENT MANUAL THAT I MADE A COPY OF FOR YOU. OKAY. OR AN EXISTING MANUAL, SO IT'S EXISTING. OKAY. VERY GOOD. UH, REVISING THAT. OKAY. I GOT IT. THANK YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, MR. MESMAN, UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING FOURTH ON MAINE AND GENERAL, AND YOUR STAFF. AMAZING. I, I OFFERED TO HELP AND THEY GAVE ME A LITTLE JOB TO DO. I GOT TO PUT UP SOME THINGS TO THE FENCE, BUT I APPRECIATE, UH, HAVING THAT OFFER. BUT IT WAS SO WONDERFUL TO SO MANY FAMILIES DOWN THERE ENJOYING THE EVENT. UH, AND THE PARTICIPATION AND ATTENDANCE BY CITY STAFF WAS ALSO, UH, JUST AN AMAZING THING. WHEN, UH, I RETURNED HOME THE NEXT DAY, I FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS A WHOLE GROUP OF RESIDENTS IN MARGARITAVILLE. THEY DIDN'T COME DOWN FOR THE FIREWORKS, BUT THEY ALL TOOK THEIR GOLF CARTS DOWN TO WHAT'S PHASE SEVEN, WHICH IS NOT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT ALL. AND THEY ALL SAT DOWN THERE AND THEY ENJOYED THOSE FIREWORKS. SO IT WAS JUST AN AMAZING EVENT, BUT AGAIN, TO SEE THE PARTICIPATION BY ALL OF CITY STAFF, AND THIS IS JUST AN AMAZING EVENT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, AL. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE. MRS. GUZMAN, UM, DOUBLE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT HE SAID, THANK YOU FOR AN AWESOME EVENT. I HAD A BLAST, AND SO DID THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME ALONG WITH ME. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED MEL'S ENERGY, UH, AT THE EVENT. UH, ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. THE TWO INTERNS JOINED IN ON THE FUN AND PARTICIPATED, UH, MS. GRIFFIN, I MET MS. GRIFFIN THERE, CHIEF WOODWARD AND, UH, THE POLICE OFFICERS DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH SECURITY, UH, CHIEF ROLL. AND, UH, I DIDN'T SEE CHIEF KIM HERE, BUT CHIEF ROLL DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH, UH, HFD AND, AND KEPT US ALL SAFE. SO, THANKS. UH, ON ANOTHER NOTE, UM, HILTON HEAD LAKES AND MAGNOLIA WALKER JOINING HANDS WITH, UH, JOINING HANDS WITH, UH, UM, MARGARITAVILLE ON THE 22ND OF JULY. I, I KNOW IT'S TWO WEEKS OFF, BUT I JUST HAVE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THAT. UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU ARE OFF THAT DAY OR YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO, WE INVITE YOU TO ATTEND. UM, THANK YOU TO CHIEF WOODWARD AND HIS TEAM, UM, FOR ALL THE HELP THAT YOU ARE GIVING US TO GET THIS THING OFF THE GROUND. ALSO FOR GETTING US CHIEF WOODWARD, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE POLICE TO HELP US WITH THIS EXPO, UH, ALSO TO CHIEF CAMP AND CHIEF ROLF. AND THERE ARE TEAMS FOR GETTING US ORGANIZED WITH THE, UH, FIRE AND EMS SIDE FOR THE CITY OF HARVILLE. UH, I ALSO HAVE TO TA THANK DIRECTOR WELLS AND THE JASPER COUNTY, UH, TEAM AND SHERIFF HIP ALSO FOR JOINING HANDS AND, UH, HELPING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS LEARN ALL ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS, SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE TO EVACUATE AND WE HAVE ISSUES, AT LEAST WE HAVE TWO DEVELOPMENTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE HIGHLY EDUCATED ON WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM DURING AN EVACUATION. SO THANKS GUYS. OKAY. UH, WE'RE TO MR. CARROLL, NOT LEAST . NO, IT'S THAT SYNERGY THING. SHORTER. UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT. I MISSED THE FOURTH ON MAINE THIS YEAR. I TOLD JEN FIRST TIME, WELL, FIRST ONE I HAVE EVER MISSED, BUT I HAD PLANNED COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE AND I WAS OUTTA TOWN. BUT, UH, I'VE HEARD THAT, UM, IT WAS REALLY GOOD. AND I KNOW JEN ALWAYS WORKS HERSELF TO DEATH BEFORE, BEFORE AN EVENT, SO THANKS A LOT. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF, LIKE I SAY, GOOD, GOOD COMPLIMENTS. ALSO, UH, ATTENDED THE, UM, ELCO EATING WE HAD, UM, LAST WEEK, AND I HAD, UH, A CALL. YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T THINK MR. BROWN IS IN HERE. IS HE? HE'S WORKING ON OUR HEAT. HE BACK AT THE CONDUCTION. NO, THAT'S ALRIGHT. ANYWAY, MAYBE MIKE CAN, UM, I HOPE MIKE WILL GIVE HIM THE, UH, MESSAGE [00:10:01] FOR ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, AND VERY SELDOM DO WE GET A COMPLIMENT. AND, UM, IT HASN'T BEEN A BIG INCONVENIENCE. BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE, THE, UH, CARROLL STREET, UM, WHEN THE, THE BLOCK AID, WHATEVER THE WORK, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT CLOSE TO THAT HAVE HAD, UH, TROUBLE WITH, UM, CARS TURNING AROUND IN THE YARD AND TEARING IT UP AFTER A RAIN AND WHATEVER. AND ANYWAY, AND HE TOLD ME I COULD, I'D MENTION HIS NAME, UM, MR. HARPER, JOHN HARPER, UH, LIVES RIGHT CLOSE TO THAT. AND HE SAID HE HAD SOME PEOPLE COME IN AND, UM, BACKING UP AND TEARING UP HIS YARD. AND HE HAD CALLED, UM, THE CITY AND HE SAID THEY WERE OUT THERE WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND I KNOW HE SAID, UM, MR. BROWN AND I FORGOT WHO ELSE CAME OUT THERE WITH HIM, I HATE TO FORGET. BUT ANYWAY, HE SAID THEY CAME AND PUT SOME, UM, CONES AND SOME OTHER THINGS IN HIS YARD. 'CAUSE HE SAID PART PART OF IT WAS GETTING TORN UP. AND HE JUST WANTED ME TO SAY HOW MUCH HE APPRECIATED THIS, UM, CITY'S RESPONSE. SO I TOLD HIM I WOULD SAY THAT, AND HE SAID HE WAS GONNA TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU, UH, MIKE PERSONALLY, AND TELL YOU. VERY GOOD. ANYWAY, THAT'S IT FOR ME. WELL, YOU ALL ALL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT, UH, UH, I HAVE NOT THAT MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AWAY THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. UH, I'VE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED THE EFFECTS OF JET LAG. UH, SO I WON'T GO INTO THAT. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UH, PARKS AND REC ON, ON A, WHAT I'M SURE WAS A GREAT EVENT. I'M SORRY I WAS, UH, AWAY WHEN IT HAPPENED. UM, AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, ON WEDNESDAY WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL FILL THE BUS WHERE WE WILL HAVE, UH, LOTS OF, UH, DONATIONS FROM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS JUST KEEPS GROWING. AND, AND JEN, UM, DO WE NEED HELP, UH, AFTERWARDS? IS THERE, UH, A TIME IF PEOPLE WANNA VOLUNTEER, WHEN AND WHERE SHOULD THEY SHOW UP TO HELP SORT? YES, SIR. MAYOR, UM, I'M SORRY. UH, FOR ANYONE THAT DOES WANT TO VOLUNTEER, THEY CAN MEET AT THE REC CENTER AT ABOUT 12 O'CLOCK AND WE'LL DO THE SORT AND WE'LL HAVE LUNCH 12 O'CLOCK ON, ON WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY THE 12TH. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE OUT AND BOUGHT SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR THE COLLECTION TIME, GO DO SO BEFORE WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. UM, AND, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THAT WE ADJOURN OUR MEETING? WE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT ALL SAY AYE. AYE. GOODNIGHT EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. UH, THIS IS MAYOR LISA SOKO LOUGHTON, AND I'M MAYOR HARRY WILLIAMS OF HARDY BUILT, AND WE ARE OVERLOOKING 2 78 ON THE SUN CITY MILLENNIAL BRIDGE. AND WE'RE HERE BECAUSE IT'S THE BORDER BETWEEN OUR TWO TOWNS. GREAT. AND OUR TWO COUNTIES, JASPER AND BUFORT. RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT'S HURRICANE SEASON, RIGHT? IT IS, IT STARTED JUNE 1ST. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HALF THE YEAR. I JUST DON'T LIKE TO THINK THAT, BUT IT REALLY HAS STARTED AND REALLY A GOOD TIME FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND WOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF TIME. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT LONG, BUT JIRA, YOU'RE A NATIVE SOUTH CAROLINIAN, SO YOU'VE BEEN THIS DOWN THIS ROAD A FEW TIMES. YOU KNOW, I MOVED, MOVED TO HILTON HEAD IN 82. SO MY FIRST REAL, UM, TRIAL, YOU KNOW, JUST TEST WITH THE HURRICANE WAS HUGO. AND I WAS EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT. SO I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. I UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC EVEN THAT LONG AGO IN 1989 THAT IT WAS STILL AN ISSUE. AND WE'VE ONLY GROWN. WOW. THIS WASN'T HERE WHERE WE'RE STANDING TODAY. SO YEAH. BEEN PART OF A FEW YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH. AND LAST WEEK I READ IN THE BLUFFTON SUN, YOU DID A WONDERFUL ARTICLE THANKS ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS 1 0 1. SO TELL US WHAT, WHAT ARE THE MAIN POINTS ABOUT GETTING PREPARED? YEAH. AND, AND AFTER THAT, I WANNA, 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT NEW, BUT YOU'RE NEWER AND, AND YOU REALLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THESE TWO COUNTIES WITH NOT EXPERIENCED IN A HURRICANE. UM, SO THE GOVERNOR, YOU AND I WERE THERE WITH THE GOVERNOR AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING WHAT HE SAID. AND I LOOKED AT SAVANNAH WS A'S TALKING ABOUT IT. OUR COUNTY'S PUTTING OUT INFO, BUT WE ARE OUR MAYORS. SO I LOVE THIS THOUGHT OF [00:15:01] YOU AND ME GETTING TOGETHER. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, GOVERNOR MCMASTER SAID IT PRETTY SUCCINCTLY, PETS, PILLS, PAPERS PROCEED TO ROOT. SO IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN, IF YOU HAVE A PET, TAKE CARE OF 'EM. IF YOU HAVE MEDICATION, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT. IF YOU HAVE PAPERS ON INSURANCE, GET THEM AND KNOW YOUR ROOT. AND THE ROOT IS PROBABLY THE THING PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT. SURE. SO I WROTE THAT ARTICLE, UM, WE FOLLOW TWO REALLY GOOD WEBSITES. ONE IS AN APP, AND IT'S S-C-D-O-T FIVE 11. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET A PICTURE OF IT. IT'S EASY, UM, ON THE APP. IT GIVES YOU ALL THOSE, THOSE RESOURCES. IT TALKS ABOUT YOUR ROUTE. IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, PREPAREDNESS. IT ALSO HAS A REALLY GREAT SURVEY. IT TOOK ME THREE MINUTES TO DO WHERE ALL OF US WHO LIVE HERE SHOULD TAKE THAT SURVEY TO HELP THE PEOPLE IN COLUMBIA WHO AREN'T REALLY EVACUATING UNDERSTAND HOW TO HELP US. SO WHERE, WHERE CAN THEY GET THAT SURVEY ON, ON THE APP, ON THE S-C-D-O-T FIVE 11 IS AN APP. AND IF YOU LOOK AT, IT'S ALL THE PHONE TYPES AND IT GIVES YOU THE, UM, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY RULE OUR WORLD WITH CLOSURES AND ALL. AND, UM, IT, IT'S REALLY FABULOUS. NOW, ANOTHER GOOD SITE THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT WAS HURRICANE SC SIMILAR, BUT IF YOU HAVE A COMPUTER OVER A PHONE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET INTO THIS WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE IN A NEWSLETTER. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MOVED HERE NOT THAT LONG AGO, BUT WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS WHEN YOU MOVED HERE AS A NEW, NEW JERSEYAN COMING TO THE COAST? WE NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE IN SUN CITY, IN THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I LIVE, MM-HMM. , THEY'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HURRICANES. 'CAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO PREPARE. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND NOT WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT I LEARNED BEING MAYOR AND BEING A NEW RESIDENT WAS, UH, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME. RIGHT? FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW HERE, UM, TELL US OUR CER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR BOTH OF OUR TOWNS AND OUR COUNTIES. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT TO US. THEY ARE OUR HEROES AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM. AND THERE'S CERTAIN LAWS TO PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS DURING, IN A HURRICANE. SO, UH, MAYOR, THEY HAVE, IF IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, YOU DON'T EVACUATE. RIGHT? AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. CAN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS COME AND HELP? WELL, QUICK STORY. UM, IN 17, 16, 17, WE HAD MATTHEW. RIGHT? AND I LEARNED THIS, AND THE WIND MAY HAVE GONE UP A BIT, BUT ONCE THE WINDS GET TO 30 OR 40 MILES PER HOUR, FIRST RESPONDERS ARE CALLED IN. THEY HAVE TO THE SHELTER IN PLACE. AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A CALL WITH SOMEONE WHO FELL DOWN A FLIGHT OF STAIRS, A A LANDING OF STAIRS CALLED 9 1 1. DURING, IN MATTHEW. SHE HAD TO LAY THERE UNTIL THE NEXT MORNING. SO I'M SERIOUS WHEN THEY ARE NOT GOING OUT. AND 30 MILES AN HOUR IS A BRISK OCEAN BREEZE. LAST NIGHT, I THINK WE HAD 30 MILE AN HOUR WINDS. SO DURING A STORM, A NAMED STORM, THAT IS THE PROCESS. SO I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA FORCE ANYONE TO LEAVE. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW WHO, WHO CAN. UM, IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR IF YOU'RE ELDERLY, GET A PLAN. YOU KNOW, I WISH EVERYONE WOULD HEED TO IT. BUT THOSE ARE THE 2 9 1 1 CALLS MOST FREQUENTLY MADE. AND YOU'RE GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN IN THE BEGINNING OF THE STORM. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU'RE ELDERLY OR YOU HAVE A, A YOUNG CHILD AND YOU HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, THERE WILL BE NO EMT TO COME AND HELP YOU IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE FIRE MM-HMM. , THERE'LL BE NO FIREFIGHTERS TO COME AND HELP YOU. RIGHT. IF A TREE FALLS DOWN, AND THAT'S LIKELY RIGHT. RIGHT. IT FALLS ON YOUR HOUSE. NOBODY'S GONNA COME AND HELP YOU BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO BY LAW, SHELTER IN PLACE. AND HOW ABOUT THE HOSPITALS? WILL THEY BE OPEN? HOSPITALS REALLY LET YOU KNOW WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE AN EVACUATION. SO HINT TO EVERYONE WHEN YOU START SEEING MOVEMENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, AND THAT'S, PLEASE LOOK AT THAT. DO NOT GO TO NEXTDOOR. GO TO SOME GOVERNMENT ENTITY. WE'RE ALL GONNA GET THE RIGHT INFO OUT. BUT THE HOSPITALS AND NURSING HOMES START, START SEEING THEM GOING DOWN THE ROAD. YOU, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S ABOUT TO START. THEY SHUT DOWN FIRST AND [00:20:01] YOU CAN'T GET BACK IN UNTIL THEY OPEN. SO THERE'S JUST SOME TIMEFRAME. THAT'S FRUSTRATING. SO THE STORM MAY BE OPEN OR OVER MM-HMM. . BUT THE HOSPITALS AND, AND NURSING HOMES MAY STILL BE CLOSED. SO YOU COULD HAVE AN, AN EMERGENCY, YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE COME AND TREAT YOU, BUT THERE'S NO FACILITY TO TAKE YOU TO UNLESS IT'S HOURS AWAY. RIGHT. RIGHT. WHICH I GO BACK TO THE YOUNG AND THE OLD, WHICH IS PROBABLY HALF OUR POPULATION IF YOU LOOK AT BOTH AGE GROUPS TO REALLY GET A PLAN. AND THIS IS A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY. GET A PLAN NOW. SUPER EASY. FOLLOW FOLLOW MY ARTICLE. I HOPE YOU WRITE AN ARTICLE. 'CAUSE I THINK THE MORE WE GET IT OUT, THE BETTER. THAT WAS A GREAT ARTICLE. THANK I THANK THERE'S NOTHING I COULD ADD TO THAT OTHER THAN JUST TO PLAGIARIZE, PLAGIARIZE . FINE. I WROTE IT SO I GIVE YOU PERMISSION. . OKAY. UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT FACTOR. AND MATTHEW WAS MY FIRST HURRICANE IN 2016. MM-HMM. . NOW I WAS MAYOR JUST A FEW MONTHS. AND SO THIS WAS ALL NEW TO ME. MM-HMM. . BUT THERE WAS COMING BACK AND THERE WERE SO MANY FALSE RUMORS GOING AROUND ON WHEN TO COME BACK. WHEN NOT TO COME BACK. AND 2 78 MM-HMM. RIGHT. ALL DOWN HERE WAS A PARKING LOT FOR HOURS OR MAYBE A DAY. YEAH. SO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, IS IT TO COME BACK AT THE RIGHT TIME? WELL, IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BLOCKING THESE ROADS ARE NATIONAL GUARD AND HIGHWAY PATROL. THEY DON'T KNOW YOU MAYOR. THEY DON'T KNOW ME. UM, THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE RULES THAT THE GOVERNOR GIVES 'EM. AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE REENTRY CARDS. WE BOTH HAVE TO STAY. BUT THE GOAL IF SOMETHING HITS, IS TO GET ALL OF THESE CONTRACTORS THAT REMOVE DEBRIS TO GET THE HOSPITALS OPEN. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALLOW YOU TO COME IN. IT'S HARD. IT'S COSTLY. ONE GREAT THING ABOUT THE STATE THOUGH, YOU'LL START SEEING A LOT OF COMMUNITY EFFORTS WITH AIRBNBS AND RENTALS ALL UP AND DOWN OUR STATE TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE IN NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY. I STAYED IN A SHELTER DURING, IN HERMA JUST TO CHECK IT OUT. SHELTERS ARE FABULOUS. YOU GET TO EAT, YOU HAVE A COTT, YOU HAVE WIFI, YOU MEET NEW PEOPLE, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR DOGS, YOU TAKE YOUR DOGS TO THE JASPER SHELTER. SO THERE, THERE ARE WAYS TO JUST GIVE IT A MINUTE. WHY DO YOU STRESS OUT IN A CAR IN THE SUMMER? AND THAT'S WHEN HURRICANES HIT WHEN IT'S HOT. SO I REMEMBER FROM, UH, FROM MATTHEW, IT WAS OVER FOR A COUPLE DAYS. MM-HMM. . AND PEOPLE STARTED TO COME BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION. MM-HMM. . AND THEY STARTED COMING BACK AND 2 78 WAS BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO I 95. MM-HMM. . THEY PARKED ON THE SHOULDER AND THE MEDIAN. SO YOU COULDN'T GET AROUND EVEN IF YOU HAD AN EMERGENCY. AND EVEN THE REASON WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN PARTS OF BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD THAT WERE, HAD POWER LINES DOWN. MM-HMM. TREES THAT WEREN'T REMOVED YET, SO THEY COULDN'T OPEN UP MM-HMM. . EVEN THOUGH THE SUN WAS SHINING AND PEOPLE WERE JUST PARKED ON 2 78 BECAUSE THEY CAME BACK TOO EARLY. RIGHT. THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD BEAT IT KIND OF. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, HILTON HEAD WAS A BARRIER ISLAND AND THEY TOOK THE BRUNT OF IT, BUT COMETA BLUFF LOST 3000 TREES. WOW. THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, JUST IN ONE OF OUR PARKS, LOST 12 TREES. WE HAD NO POWER. IT'S THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING YOU COULD EVER DEAL WITH, IS SITTING IN A DARK HOUSE. IT'S MENTALLY, IT AFFECTS YOU. HILTON HEAD SEWER WAS BACKING UP INTO THEIR TOILETS. THERE WAS NO POWER. IT'S NOT A PLACE YOU WANNA BE AFTER. THAT WAS THE CAT TWO STORM. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOUR GROWN PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE ELDERLY THAT NEEDS SOME GUIDANCE AND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAN'T MAKE THEIR MINDS UP YET, TAKE CARE OF THEM, THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO OUR TOWNS. THE, UM, ANOTHER THING TO SAY ABOUT THAT FOR US IN JASPER COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY OPENED UP BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE MORE INLAND MM-HMM. BEFORE BUFORT COUNTY. MM-HMM. . HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO GET TO SUN CITY, JASPER COUNTY, YOU HAD TO TAKE 2 78 OR ONE 70. RIGHT. AND THOSE ROADS WERE CLOSED BECAUSE THEY LED INTO BEAUFORT COUNTY. RIGHT. SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT. YOU SAID BEFORE, DON'T LISTEN TO SOCIAL MEDIA. MM-HMM. GO TO, UH, AUTHORIZED NEWS OUTLETS. YEAH. DON'T ASK YOUR FRIEND ON FACEBOOK IF IT'S TIME TO COME BACK. RIGHT. WELL, AND ASK US. 'CAUSE YOU AND I ARE GONNA BE HERE. UM, YOU KNOW [00:25:01] WHAT THE COUNTY LEARNED, OUR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND IN JASPER COUNTY LEARNED FROM MATTHEW WAS OH MY GOSH. THE AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION. SO WE REALLY RELY ON THE COUNTY TO GIVE US THE INFO. NOW IT'S YOU AND ME, BOOTS ON THE ROAD TO GET IT OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS. 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA LISTEN TO US. UM, WHEN I STAYED, I WANTED TO BE THERE. I EVACUATED BEFORE. I KNOW HOW STRESSED YOU ARE AND THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU AND I DO AFTER EVACUATION, BUT SIGN EMERGENCY ORDERS. SO WE DID A LOT OF COMMUNICATING ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN SPANISH AND IN ENGLISH, IN VIDEOS AND IN TEXT, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT. AND I MEAN, IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. SO BLUFFTON IS NOT GONNA STOP DOING THAT. AND I, IF IT'S SOMEONE IN HARDY THAT GETS THAT INFORMATION FROM ME OR BLUFFTON THAT GETS INFORMATION FROM YOU, PLEASE UTILIZE THIS. YES. AND LAST, MATTHEW, YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB. AGAIN, I WAS A NEW MAYOR. I'M LOOKING TO YOU. AND YOU'RE NOT A NEW MAYOR ANYMORE. YOU'RE, YOU WERE IN THE SHELTER AND GIVING OUT INFORMATION AS THE STORM WAS ONGOING. RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF SOURCES. IF YOU'RE GONNA GO ON FACEBOOK, GO ON ON THE BLUFFTON FACEBOOK PAGE OR THE HARDY FACEBOOK PAGE AND GET THE REAL INFORMATION REAL TIME. AND MAYOR SULKIN AND I WILL BE GIVING OUT INFORMATION. NOW THERE'S ONE, ONE LAST POINT. WE'VE BEEN CHATTING HERE FOR A WHILE. YOU AND I WENT TO SEE THE, THE, UH, GOVERNOR LAST WEEK. MM-HMM. IN, IN BEAUFORT ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS. MM-HMM. . AND A QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES. MM-HMM. , WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC JAMS ON 2 78 AND THEY COULD BE TRAFFIC JAMS. UH, IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG, IT COULD BE LEAVING. MM-HMM. . IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND YOU'RE STUCK IN A TRAFFIC JAM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET RECHARGED? WHAT DID THE GOVERNOR HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? WELL, YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN YOUR TOWN THAT HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THEM? I'D TELL 'EM EXACTLY WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAID. LEAVE EARLY . THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, MAYOR, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN 16. Y'ALL THINK BACK OF WHAT'S CHANGED. AND I JUST HAD FRIENDS ASK ME ABOUT PUTTING A CHARGING STATION IN THEIR GARAGE. AND I SAID, WELL FIND THOSE CHARGING STATIONS ALONG THE ROUTE. OR DO NOT DRIVE YOUR ELECTRIC CAR WHEN YOU EVACUATE BECAUSE YOU ONE CAR ON ONE LANE, AND I SAW IT YESTERDAY, JUST YESTERDAY, BACKS TRAFFIC UP FOR 10 MILES. WOW. SO IF THEY RUN OUT AND THEY THINK THEY CAN MAKE IT, AND THEY'RE STUCK, THINK ABOUT ALL THE TRAFFIC BEHIND NO COPS, AND YOU GOTTA GO AROUND AND THOSE TWO LANES TURN INTO ONE. IT'S, YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT. SO TO PLAN, IF YOU OWN THOSE PLAN, KNOW YOUR ROUTE AND KNOW YOUR STATIONS AND GO EARLY AND LEAVE EARLY. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING BEFORE, IF THE POWER GOES OUT AND THAT'S LIKELY, IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG AND YOUR POWER GOES OUT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CHARGE THAT VEHICLE THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO TO LEAVE. RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE, UH, THE CALL COMES BACK TO LEAVING EARLY. RIGHT? AS SOON AS THE GOVERNOR SAYS TO LEAVE AND, AND GET OUT OF TOWN AND HAVE A NICE VACATION SOMEWHERE. GO SOMEWHERE AND JUST FIND A FRIEND. CALL AND ASK FOR FRIENDS. I MEAN, GO INLAND A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW I GO BACK TO, IT'S HARD. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HALF OF OUR COUNTIES STRUGGLE AND THE OTHER HALF PROBABLY ARE, BUT WANNA ADMIT IT. UM, SO I KNOW IT'S HARD TO NOT HAVE A JOB BECAUSE EVERYONE'S SHUT DOWN. UM, BUT FIND SOMEONE NOW JUST INLAND A LITTLE BIT WHERE YOU CAN STAY IN A FRIEND'S HOUSE. SO, UM, THAT'S MY ADVICE TO EVERYONE. ONE THING THAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS IS WITH MCMASTER, HE STOPPED ISSUING VOLUNTARY EVACUATIONS. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT. YOU VOLUNTEER YOURSELF TO EVACUATE IF YOU FEEL THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE GONNA BE CRUCIAL. WHEN HE SAYS EVACUATE, HE IS NOT KIDDING AROUND. AND HE MEANS IT. AND TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, WE GET ON AND YOU START TURNING, YOU KNOW, MOM AND DAD ON OUR RESIDENCE TO THE POINT OF LET YOUR SECURITY, IF YOU'RE IN A SECURE COMMUNITY, LET 'EM KNOW YOU'RE STAYING. BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHO'S IN THAT HOUSE. IF A TREE FALLS DOWN ON IT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR REALLY STRICT, HARSH STATEMENTS BECAUSE HE'S NOT DOING IT BECAUSE IT'S FUN. HE DOESN'T NEED THIS COUNTY TO SHUT DOWN OR THE STATE. SO HEEDED HIS ADVICE, AND I KNOW WE'RE RATTLING ON A A LITTLE BIT, WE ON ALL THAT. BUT THIS IS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, IMPORTANT ISSUE. IT'S MANY PEOPLE [00:30:02] I'VE HEARD, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO EVACUATE IN MATTHEW BECAUSE THE EVERYBODY GOES DOWN. EVEN SECURITAS HAS A MINIMAL STAFF AND THEY'RE LEAVING THE COMMUNITY ON GUARD. I HAVE TO TELL YOU DURING MATTHEW AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN ANY FUTURE HURRICANE, THE HARVILLE POLICE WILL BE PATROLLING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I, AND THE SAME WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY AND BLUFFTON. RIGHT. POLICE WILL COME INTO THESE COMMUNITIES MM-HMM. THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON. ABSOLUTELY. AND ON TOP OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN JASPER, BUT IN BLUFFTON, PART OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, WE HAVE THREE OR 400 NATIONAL GUARDSMEN THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HOUSE THEMSELVES IN OUR PAL OUR PARKS AND LEISURE SERVICES BUILDINGS ON BUCK WALTER, THEY HAVE JURISDICTION EVERYWHERE. YOU, WE'VE GOT SUCH HELP. AND I'VE NOT SEEN, I MEAN, DURING MATTHEW, A KID BROKE INTO A PARK'S AND STOLE CIGARETTES. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LAUGHED LIKE I WOULD'VE FOUND SOMEBODY TO GIVE HIM SOME, YOU KNOW, IT IS MINOR STUFF, BUT OUR OFFICERS ARE PRETTY FOCUSED AND WE'LL PUT A CURFEW IN IF NEED BE. SO AGAIN, IF YOU STAY AND YOU HAVE NO POWER AND MY HUSBAND LIVED IT, YOU HAVE NO POWER. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE NO TOILET FLUSHING. UM, YOU HAD, YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE BOARDED SO YOU HAVE NO LIGHT AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT. 'CAUSE THERE'S A CURFEW. IT'S NOT A FUN WEEK TO LIVE IN THIS AREA. IF YOU STAYED AND YOU'RE UNDER CURFEW. SO DO YOU HAVE A FINAL DO YOU HAVE A FINAL WORD FOR EVERYBODY? WELL, I'D LOVE YOURS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA GET THE MESSAGE OUT. I'M NOT THIS ONE TO CALL FEAR. I THINK EVERYONE HAS TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, BUT I REALLY DO WORRY ABOUT TWO DEMOGRAPHICS IN OUR TOWN AND THEN THE MIDDLE DEMOGRAPHIC. GO TO GO TO RIDGELAND, GO TO WALTER BOROUGH, GO UP, YOU KNOW, GO WHERE THE HURRICANE JUST CAME FROM. BE CREATIVE, BUT JUST BE READY AND BE PREPARED. FEEL LIKE A BOY SCOUT. HOW ABOUT YOU? AND TO EVERYBODY, JUST STAY SAFE. YEAH. IT'S NOT WORTH A FEW DAYS. INCONVENIENCE TO LOSE SOMEONE'S LIFE. ABSOLUTELY. HI EVERYBODY, I'M CHARLES MYERS, BUSINESS CONSULTANT WITH SC WORKS DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT WORKFORCE HERE ON CASTLE ROCK ROAD IN BEAUFORT. LET'S TALK ABOUT JOBS IN JASPER ATLAS. SURVEYING IS SEEKING AN INSTRUMENT OPERATOR. ATLAS SURVEYING, INCORPORATED AS AN INDUSTRY LEADING PROFESSIONAL LAND SURVEYING FIRM WITH OFFICES IN SAVANNAH, HILTON HEAD, CHARLESTON, CHARLOTTE AND GREENVILLE SPARTANBURG. THEY USE CONVENTIONAL TOOLS, ROBOTS IN DRONES TO CONDUCT SURVEYS AND PERFORM CERTIFICATIONS AND TO PROVIDE REAL-TIME, GPS AND AERIAL MAPPING. UH, THEY SERVE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS AND CONSTRUCTION, ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FIRMS IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTORS. DESIRE, SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE, PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE AND CONSTRUCTION SURVEYING OR UTILITY LOCATING IS STRONGLY PREFERRED BUT NOT REQUIRED. THE ABILITY TO STAND AND WALK FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME TO BEND AND STOOP AND TO LIFT HEAVY ITEMS IS ESSENTIAL. IT IS ALSO SOMETIMES NECESSARY TO ENTER MANHOLES PROFESSIONAL AND TEAM ORIENTED ATTITUDE WITH A DESIRE TO BUILD A CAREER. MUST BE HONEST, DEPENDABLE, THOROUGH, SAFETY CONSCIOUS, AND HAVE A STRONG WORK ETHIC. MUST BE SELF-DRIVEN WITH LITTLE OR NO SUPERVISION. MUST HAVE CURRENT AND A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH MVR THAT MEETS COMPANY REQUIREMENTS. UH, WORKING CONDITIONS COULD BE INDOORS OR OUTDOORS, AND THE JOB IS SUBJECT TO EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS. A FULL BENEFITS PACKAGE IS OFFERED FOR THIS JOB AND THE SALARY RANGES FROM 17 TO $21 PER HOUR, DEPENDING ON EXPERIENCE. PLEASE APPLY FOR THIS ROLE AT THE FOLLOWING SITE. ATLAS SURVEYING.COM. ATLAS SURVEYING IS LOCATED IN REGIONAL RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. OUR SECOND JOB IS WITH CLEVELAND SITE PREP. THEY'RE SEEKING A DIESEL MECHANIC. CLEVELAND SITE PREP HAS AN OPENING FOR AN EXPERIENCED DIESEL MECHANIC. OUR BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA FACILITY COMPLETES MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS ON THE COMPANY'S FLEET OF DUMP TRUCKS, TRACTOR TRAILERS, HEAVY EARTH MOVING EQUIPMENT, PICKUP TRUCKS, AND OTHER VARIOUS EQUIPMENT. QUALIFIED CANDIDATES HAVE A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF DIESEL AND GAS ENGINES, HYDRAULICS, BRAKING SYSTEMS, AC SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, TRANSMISSIONS AND DRIVE TRAINS, TIRES AND SUSPENSION SYSTEMS AS WELL. JOB DUTIES INCLUDE MAINTAINS TROUBLESHOOTS AND PERFORMS QUALITY REPAIRS ON EQUIPMENT AS NEEDED. COMPLETES REQUIRED LUBRICATION OF WEAR OF WORN ITEMS, UH, MAINTAINS CLEAR AND ORGANIZED WORK AREA [00:35:01] ACCURATELY COMPLETES ALL REQUIRED PAPERWORK WITH TIMELY SUBMISSIONS, MAINTAINS ADHERENCE TO ALL COMPANY AND INDUSTRY SAFETY STANDARDS, AND PERFORMS OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED JOB REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE MUST HAVE YOUR OWN WORKING SET OF TOOLS. YOU MUST HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO WORK EXTENDED HOURS, INCLUDING WEEKENDS AS REQUIRED. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO LIFT HEAVY OBJECTS AND BE ABLE TO CLIMB ON AND UNDER EQUIPMENT AND YOU MUST BE ABLE TO PASS A DRUG TEST, BACKGROUND CHECK AND A AND A MOTOR VEHICLE RECORDS CHECK. PLEASE APPLY FOR THIS JOB@CLEVELANDSITEPREP.COM, A FULL BENEFITS PACKAGES OFFERED. AND THE COMPANY SITE IS AT 4 26 RED OAK LANE, RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. OUR FINAL JOB TODAY IS WITH LEADWAY THERAPEUTIC SERVICES. THEY'RE SEEKING A MEDICAL RECEPTIONIST. THE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE MUST SUBMIT TO A DRUG BACKGROUND AND REFERENCE CHECK. COMPENSATION FOR THIS ROLE IS 13 TO $15 AN HOUR, DEPENDING ON EXPERIENCE. AND LEEDS WAY IS LOCATED AT 7 7 6 6 WEST MAIN STREET IN RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. YOU CAN APPLY FOR THIS JOB ON SITE OR COME DOWN TO SC WORKS AT 1 64 CASTLE ROCK ROAD HERE IN BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. WE'D BE GLAD TO HELP YOU WITH THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR JOBS IN JASPER THIS WEEK. THANKS FOR TUNING IN. WE ARE AT THE HARDY VISITOR CENTER, JUST SOUTH OF MEXICO, FIVE ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE. AND THIS IS NATIONAL TOURISM WEEK. SO I'M HERE WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE GREETING VISITORS WHO ARE STOPPING BY IN OUR FAIR CITY. UM, IT'S A VERY, VERY CROWDED VISITOR CENTER. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE TOPS IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY. SO, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE SO MANY TIMES. WE'VE SENT SO MANY PEOPLE OVER INTO THE TOWN OF HARVILLE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'RE HERE TO BUILD UP THE AREAS THAT, UM, IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. IT GIVES A TREMENDOUS NAME RECOGNITION TO OUR CITY. UM, MANY PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM MAINE TO MIAMI, AND THEY ALL GO PAST THE CITY OF HARVILLE. WE ARE ON OUR WAY UP TO, UH, NORTH CAROLINA FROM FLORIDA TO, UH, SEE OUR TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE. AND THIS IS ONE WAY TO SHOW OUR FACE WHO WE'RE AND WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT. AND SO OUR PARKS AND REC, WHO BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE RECREATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS? JUST TELL US TO TELL OUR VISITORS WHAT OUR CITY'S ABOUT. WE'VE NEVER BEEN TO A WELCOME CENTER WHERE THEY GIVE YOU SOMETHING GREAT WELCOME CENTER. I MEAN, IT'S WELCOMING THE BATHROOMS, WERE UNBELIEVABLY CLEAN. AND, UM, JUST SEEING THE PICTURES MAKES YOU WANNA COME BACK. HOSPITALITY, THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIG DRAW FOR THE LOCAL HOSPITALITY. UM, YOU GOT A LOT OF THE, THE BEACHES, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT, BUT A LOT, A LOT OF THE SOUTHERN WHAT DROPPED YOU TO THE LOW COUNTRY TO HEAR THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT OUR CITY, GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR CITY, AND JUST LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO PASSES BY. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE PEOPLE. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN PUBLIC SERVICE, IT'S ABOUT THE HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE LATEST EDITION OF SPEAKING OF HARDY. WELL SCHOOL MAY BE OUT FOR THE SUMMER, BUT THE EDUCATION PROCESS CONTINUES. IN TODAY'S EPISODE, I SPEAK TO THREE EDUCATORS FROM THREE DIFFERENT CHARTER SCHOOLS AROUND THE AREA. ONE WILL TELL ME ABOUT A NEW SCHOOL, ONE WILL TELL ME ABOUT A NEW BUILDING, AND THE THIRD WILL TELL ME ABOUT BEING A NEW AUTHOR. STAY WITH US. SPEAKING OF HARVILLE STARTS RIGHT NOW. AND WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY DR. KAREN WICKS. SHE IS THE CO-FOUNDER AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT ROYAL LIVE OAKS ACADEMY OF THE ARTS AND SCIENCE CHARTER SCHOOL HERE IN HARDY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME. IT'S MY PLEASURE. AND, UH, RIGHT OFF THE TOP, WE KIND OF HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS AS OF THE TIME WE ARE RECORDING THIS. UH, YOUR HUSBAND RECENTLY [00:40:01] RECEIVED AN AWARD AND WE WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS PROPS, HIS FLOWERS. UH, SO TELL ME ABOUT THAT AWARD. I KNOW WE CAME TO TALK ABOUT YOU IN THE SCHOOL, BUT HIS JUST, UH, HIT THE PRESS. SO YES. WELL, UM, THE CHARTER INSTITUTE AT ERSKINE, OUR DISTRICT HONORED HIM WITH THE PILLAR AWARD FOR WHAT HE DID IN BRINGING US TO SOUTH CAROLINA, NUMBER ONE, AND HAVING THE VISION FOR RURAL OAKS ACADEMY AND, UM, FOR GETTING US OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE HIS EXPERIENCE AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESSMAN, HE KNEW ALL OF THE STEPS THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN SO THAT WE'D HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE OUR SCHOOL AND THEN ALSO FOR THE BUILDING OF OUR, UH, CURRENT, UH, LOCATION, WHICH IS A 70,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT, SO THAT'S, UM, IT'S A HUGE, IT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR HIM. IT IS THE CULMINATION OF HIS CAREER AS, UH, AN ENTREPRENEUR, I WOULD SAY. AND FOR, HE'S MY PILLAR, ALSO. HE'S MY KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR. AND, UM, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM HIM OVER MANY YEARS TOGETHER. MARRIED. WOW. WELL, GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM. UH, LET'S GO BACK AND WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ROYAL ISLAND OAKS AND ERSKINE UNIVERSITY? WELL, THE, UH, ERSKINE COLLEGE, UM, AUTHORIZED, IF YOU WILL, THE CHARTER INSTITUTE AT ERSKINE AS A, UM, A DISTRICT, UM, AN AUTHORIZER FOR SCHOOLS IN THE CHARTER LAW. UM, THERE CAN BE A LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO, UH, IS THE SPONSOR OR THE AUTHORIZER FOR A CHARTER SCHOOL OR, UM, HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTION. SO AS A HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTION, UM, THAT GAVE, UH, ERSKINE COLLEGE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. AND NOW LIMESTONE HAS DONE THE SAME. SO THERE ARE THREE OF THE STATE AUTHORIZERS, SOUTH CAROLINA PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL DISTRICT CHARTER INSTITUTE AT ERSKINE, AND THEN LIMESTONE, UM, AS WELL. AND NOW HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN HERE IN HARDING? I, I REMEMBER, I, I LOOK AT YOUR GREAT FACILITY NOW, AND NOT THAT IN THE MOBILE UNITS WAS BAD BECAUSE EVERYBODY NEEDED A STARTING PLACE, BUT, UH, YOU GUYS STARTED IN MOBILE UNITS. YES. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE AND HOW DID THAT TRANSITION TAKE PLACE? WE'VE BEEN IN HARDY FOR 11 YEARS, UH, AND, UM, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SECURE LAND, UH, TO PURCHASE. SO WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEASE LAND. SO WE LEASED THAT LAND AND WHEN WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO, UH, SECURE THIS, UM, LAND, UM, 26 ACRES, UH, THEN WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD THE, THE BUILDING AND MOVE INTO IT. AND THAT TOOK ABOUT FOUR YEARS TO SECURE THE FUNDING THROUGH THE USDA AND THE PROCESS THAT THEY REQUIRED FOR THAT, THEY THEN TO BUILD THE BUILDING. AND, UH, SO IT WAS, WE'VE BEEN THERE NOW THREE YEARS, THREE AND A HALF YEARS. OKAY. NOW, AT THE TIME OF THIS RECORDING, UH, WE ARE JUST COMING OUT OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND I'M, I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU COULD JOIN ME, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS ARE DONE, BUT YOU'RE STILL WORKING. BUT WHAT MAKES THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE AT ROYAL LIVE OAKS SO SPECIAL? I THINK IT'S A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. UH, WE, UH, HAVE A, AN ALL EMBRACING ATTITUDE. UM, WE HAVE A NURTURING ENVIRONMENT AND WE REALLY FOCUS ON THE NEEDS OF EACH STUDENT, NO MATTER, UH, WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS, THEIR ETHNICITY, THEIR RACE, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S THE STUDENT WHO MATTERS. AND WE WORK VERY HARD TO PROVIDE A MUCH MORE INDIVIDUALIZED, UH, APPROACH. SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE MORE STAFF MEMBERS TO DO THAT, MORE INTERVENTIONISTS AND PARAPROFESSIONALS TO ASSIST THE TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM. AND THEN ALSO, UM, WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST PROGRAM FOR OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SO THAT THEY ALSO RECEIVE, UH, WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I, I THINK ALSO YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT STAFF. WE'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A VERY GOOD STAFF. AND, UM, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE SAME GOAL, THEN YOU CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR CHILDREN. WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A STUDENT AT ROYAL ISLANDS? WELL, THERE'S AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, FOR THAT. AND, UM, IF THE GRADE IS FULL, BECAUSE EVERY GRADE HAS A A MAX FOR THEM, THEN, UM, THEY GO ON A WAIT LIST. AND OUR REGISTRAR KEEPS TRACK OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S AN OPENING, SOMEONE MOVES OUT STATE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. UH, WE DON'T LOSE VERY MANY STUDENTS. UM, THIS, UH, COMING YEAR, 98% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE COMING BACK. SO, UM, THAT WAIT LIST GETS VERY LARGE OVER THE COURSE OF TIME . SO IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED, [00:45:01] THEY NEED TO CONTACT THE SCHOOL AND YES, TRY AND GET ON THE LIST. RIGHT. OR, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITE, UH, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH THE WEBSITE OR THEY CAN COME IN AND FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. OKAY. NOW, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET, THERE'S SO MUCH WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN EDUCATION, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE I HEARD THAT YOU ARE AN AUTHOR NOW, AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOK THAT YOU WROTE. SO IF YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO WRITE A BOOK? WELL, TWISTED SILVER SPOONS IS, UH, THE NOVEL. UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SORT OF BY HAPPENSTANCE. I, WORKING WITH A LOT OF STUDENTS OVER MANY YEARS, YOU SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, UH, JUST YOU THINK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF THIS HAPPENED? WHAT IF THAT HAPPENED? AND A, A STORY WAS FORMING IN MY MIND, SO I WOULD JUST MAKE NOTES. AND, UH, THEN I JUST STARTED WRITING. I USED TO WRITE A LOT OF POETRY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH MY FEELINGS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THEN I AL ALWAYS KEPT A JOURNAL. UM, IT'S PART OF MY SPIRITUAL PRACTICE TO DO THAT. AND IT JUST SORT OF DEVELOPED THIS, UH, CHARACTER GEORGE JUST TOOK LIFE ON AND I JUST STARTED TO WRITE HIS STORY. OKAY. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GEORGE. WELL, GIVING AWAY, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE IT, BUT TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GEORGE. WELL, GEORGE, UH, IS, UM, A YOUNG MAN. IT'S REALLY HIS, UH, JOURNEY OF SELF-DISCOVERY. UM, A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS ON HIM THAT HE DOES NOT FEEL HE CAN MEET. HE'S A VERY PRIVILEGED YOUNG MAN, UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DRAMA AROUND HIS FAMILY. UH, THE REVIEWERS CALL IT A PSYCHOLOGICAL THRILLER, BUT ALSO, UM, IT'S A HUMAN DRAMA ABOUT THE INTERACTIONS OF PEOPLE AND, AND THE, THE, UM, THE DIFFICULTIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, CAN GET RATHER COMPLICATED AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY IF A CHILD IS EXPECTED TO FILL A CERTAIN ROLE AND DOESN'T FEEL THAT THAT'S WHERE HE WANTS TO GO IN HIS LIFE. SO, UM, IT'S, UM, IT IS RATHER COMPELLING, I HAVE TO SAY. YOU KNOW, YOU PICK IT UP AND YOU DON'T WANNA PUT IT DOWN. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MANY READERS AND, UM, I MYSELF LIKE TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT CAUSED ME TO SAY THAT? AND YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY LIKE, UM, THE NARRATIVE ITSELF JUST LEADS YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF WHAT YOU WANT TO WRITE. YOU JUST FOLLOW IT AS IT GOES. IT'S, YOU HAVE THIS NOTION AND THEN IT JUST TAKES OFF. SO IS BEING AN AUTHOR SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS KINDA, I, I, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU USED TO WRITE POETRY, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS KIND THOUGHT ABOUT DOING? UM, NOT NECESSARILY. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST STARTED KEEPING A JOURNAL BECAUSE, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MY MOTHER DID, AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO WORK OUT THINGS THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, GOD LAYS SOMETHING ON YOUR HEART, SO YOU START TO WRITE ABOUT IT AND YOU SEE HOW IT APPLIES TO YOUR LIFE. AND SO THAT JUST DEVELOPED. AND FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE A, THE WRITING PRACTICE, A LOT OF MY EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION HAS ALSO HAD A LOT OF WRITING INVOLVED IN IT. AND SO THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS JUST, JUST GERMINATE FROM THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU JUST WANT TO PUT SOMETHING DOWN ON PAPER THAT YOU MIGHT NOT DISCUSS WITH SOMEONE ELSE. OKAY. SO CAN WE EXPECT MORE BOOKS IN THE FUTURE ? UM, I, YEAH, I EXPECT SO. UM, I'M WORKING ON THE SEQUEL RIGHT NOW. I JUST, THE STORY JUST KEPT GOING IN MY HEAD. SO, YOU KNOW, I START WRITING AND EVERYBODY KEEPS TELLING ME, YOU NEED TO WRITE ABOUT RURAL IX, YOU NEED TO WRITE ABOUT THAT STORY. WELL, THAT HASN'T COME TO ME PER SE, BUT I GUESS YOU'D SAY MY MEMOIR IS, HAS BEEN RATTLING AROUND IN MY HEAD. SO THAT'S BEEN GOING ON PAPER TOO, . RIGHT. AND I ALSO SAW THAT THE DOCUMENTARY THAT WAS DONE ON, ON YOU GUYS AS WELL. AND THAT'S, UH, PRETTY AWESOME AND HOPE THAT OUR VIEWERS GET A, THAT THAT HAVEN'T SEEN IT, HOPE THAT OUR VIEWERS GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT PRETTY SOON. SO, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND THAT KIND OF TELLS THE STORY AS WELL, CORRECT? IT DOES. UM, IT'S A COMMEMORATION OF 11 YEARS OF ROYAL LIVE OAKS BEING ALIVE AND HOW WE WENT ABOUT, UM, COMING UP WITH THE IDEA AND WHAT BROUGHT US HERE, ALL THOSE THINGS. YOU SEE, MY HUSBAND'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS COMING HERE. UH, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE HE, HE BROUGHT ME TO SOUTH CAROLINA, UH, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO COME AND , WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WERE UPROOTING OUR ENTIRE LIFE, SO THERE WAS THAT. BUT UM, WHEN WE SAW THE DOCUMENTARY CORRIDOR OF SHAME, UM, I WAS COMPELLED AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, HE HAD THE VISION OF WHAT WE WOULD DO, BE ABLE TO DO AND, UM, I'VE [00:50:01] ALWAYS FOLLOWED HIS LEAD, SO WE WENT FROM THERE AND THEN I JUST PUT TO USE MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND MADE SURE THAT TO GET GOOD PEOPLE TO WORK ALONGSIDE OF US AND TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO ALMOST OUT OF TIME, BUT WHERE CAN WE GET A COPY OF, UH, TWISTED SILVER SPOONS? WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT? WELL, TWISTED SILVER SPOONS IS AT AMAZON AND UH, I THINK IT'S STILL AT BURNS AND NOBLE TOO. UM, SO YES, THEY CAN FIND IT. AMAZON FOR SURE. I THINK EVERYBODY FINDS WHAT THEY WANT ON AMAZON THESE DAYS. , I KNOW I SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON THAT, BUT , UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DIDN'T COVER THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING UP? UM, I THINK WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT. UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK ABOUT WORLD LIVE OAKS AND, UH, MY HUSBAND ESPECIALLY AND, UH, AND GEORGE HERE AT TWISTED SILVER SPOONS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING INTO THE SUMMER, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE WRITING AND I KNOW, UH, TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A YEAR ROUND JOB, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AS WELL. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING IN. THANK YOU WA AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY MS. KIM STALER. SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT POLARIS TECH CHARTER SCHOOL. AND THAT'S LOCATED ORIGINALLY, BUT THEY SERVICE, UH, ALL OF JASPER COUNTY. AM I CORRECT? YEAH. YEP. . OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME. AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GOT SOME BIG PLANS GOING ON OUT THERE AT UH, POLARIS TECH. BUT FIRST, UH, LET'S DO A LITTLE BACKGROUND. HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN AROUND? SO THIS IS OUR FIFTH YEAR THAT WE JUST CLOSED OUT AT POLARIS TECH. SO WE RECEIVED OUR CHARTER IN 2017 AND OPENED OUR FACILITY IN 2018. AND, UM, WELL, WHERE DO YOUR STUDENTS COME FROM? I, YOU KNOW, I SAID YOU SERVICE JASPER COUNTY, BUT, SO WE ARE ACTUALLY STARTED THROUGH, UM, CHARTERED THROUGH THE STATE, BUT THEY COME FROM, UM, PRIMARILY JASPER COUNTY, COLTON HAMPTON BEAUFORT. UM, IT'S REALLY KIND OF WITHIN A DRIVABLE RADIUS OF 30 TO 45 MILES, BUT WE'RE PRIMARILY RIGHT AROUND THE RIDGELAND AREA IS WHERE OUR PROPOSITION COMES FROM. OKAY. AND WHAT GRADE DO YOU SERVE CURRENTLY? WE SERVE GRADES FIVE THROUGH 12. UM, AND THEN IN THE FALL WE'LL BE A FULL K 12 CONTINUUM. WE ADD THE ELEMENTARY. OH, WOW. YEAH. OKAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. OKAY. NOW, HOW CAN SOMEONE ENROLL IF THEY WANTED TO GO OUT TO, UH, BECAUSE ARE YOU BASICALLY, UH, STEM SCHOOL OR TELL ME ABOUT YOUR, UM, SURE. SO WE ARE A PROJECT BASED SCHOOL AND WE REALLY FOCUS ON REAL WORLD LIFE RELATIVE PROJECTS OR PROBLEMS FOR KIDS TO GET INVOLVED IN. SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHEN YOU HAVE A A REAL WORLD PROBLEM, YOU SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT DO I KNOW, WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW, AND HOW DO I SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AS A TEAM? THAT'S REALLY THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'VE CREATED IN SCHOOL. SO EMBEDDED IN THESE PROJECTS ARE THE STATE STANDARDS, BUT ALSO, UM, THE CREATIVITY THAT KIDS LOVE AND THE ENGAGEMENT, UM, THAT'S DEMONSTRATED IN BEST PRACTICES. THEY LEARN FASTER THAT WAY. AND WE CAN MAKE UP ANY GROUND THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY, UM, TO ACTUALLY BECOME, UH, A LEARNER AT POLARIS TECH. YOU CAN CALL US AT (843) 645-0605 OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE, WWW.POLARISTECH.ORG. UM, SUPER EASY TO ENROLL. WE HAVE A FEW SEATS LEFT STILL FOR THE FALL. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN OUR SCHOOL TO TAKE A LOOK. SO WHAT MAKES THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE SO SPECIAL OUT THERE? SO I THINK WHAT'S SO SPECIAL IS THE ENGAGEMENT THAT STUDENTS CAN HAVE. UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUDENTS WE FOUND WERE NOT ENGAGED IN THE SIT AND GET MODEL, WHICH IS A MORE TRADITIONAL MODEL, WHICH SAYS, I'M GONNA FEED YOU INFORMATION AS A LECTURE FROM A TEACHER, AND THEN YOU REGURGITATE THAT ON THE TEST. THEY DON'T ALWAYS RETAIN THAT INFORMATION AND THEY GO ON TO THE NEXT YEAR. AND SO WHAT PROJECT BASED LEARNING DOES IS IT TAKES THAT INFORMATION AND APPLIES IT TO A REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. SO YOU REMEMBER IT, IT'S SORT OF LIKE IF I ASKED YOU TO BAKE A CAKE, YOU WOULD REMEMBER THE INGREDIENTS THAT WENT IN THE CAKE AND HOW YOU DID IT, RATHER THAN IF I GAVE YOU A CAKE RIGHT. AND SAID, JUST EAT THAT ONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. UM, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE THAT MAKES EVERYTHING DIFFERENT. AND THEN WE REALLY FOCUS ON CAREERS IN OUR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL EXPOSURE TO CAREERS THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVELIHOOD. SO BIOMEDICAL, AEROSPACE, BUSINESS, UM, CAREERS THAT IN THE LOW COUNTRY CAN MAKE, UM, A VERY GOOD LIVING WAGE FOR OUR, OUR KIDS, BUT ALSO OUR FAMILIES AND CHANGE THEIR LIVING DYNAMIC. UM, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND HERE IN HARDY, WE UM, WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO USE THE HARVILLE REC CENTER FOR OUR GRADUATION, AND 13 OF OUR GRADUATES WERE AEROSPACE GRADUATES. SO, UM, THEY HAD COMPLETED THE PROGRAM IN AEROSPACE. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR WHAT THEIR FUTURE [00:55:01] WILL LOOK LIKE. SO WITH THAT, YOU GUYS HAVE SPECIAL INSTRUCTORS, SPECIAL TEACHERS? WE DO. WE DO. WE DO. WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR. UM, OUR, UH, CURRENT AEROSPACE INSTRUCTOR IS A FORMER AVIATION MECHANIC FROM THE MILITARY, AND HE HAS A GREAT REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE THAT HE CAN SHARE WITH KIDS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU DO WITH THOSE SKILLS. BUT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A GREAT BACKGROUND IN, IN THAT SPACE. OUR, UH, BIOMEDICAL TEACHER, SHE COMES OUT OF A LABORATORY SPACE, UM, FOR MEDICAL. SO AGAIN, UM, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO COOL IS THE KIDS CAN REALLY CONNECT TO FOLKS THAT COME OUT OF THOSE REAL LIFE JOBS. AND WE MAY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THIS, BUT BASICALLY HOW DOES A CHARTER SCHOOL WORK? BECAUSE, UH, THESE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE TO PAY, I MEAN THIS NO, RIGHT. SO YEAH, SO WE ARE A PUBLIC SCHOOL, SO WE WENT TO THIS STATE CHARTER DISTRICT AND ASKED TO BE CHARTERED THROUGH THEIR, UM, APPLICATION MECHANISM. SO WE ARE FUNDED WITH STATE DOLLARS THAT FOLLOW UP PER PUPIL ALLOCATION TO OUR SCHOOL. PARENTS AND FAMILIES DO NOT PAY TUITION. WE FUNCTION JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SCHOOL. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS ESOL PROGRAM FOR OUR ENGLISH SECOND LEARNERS. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM. SO EVERYTHING THAT A PUBLIC SCHOOL OFFERS, WE OFFER. WHAT'S DIFFERENT IS OUR ABILITY TO CHANGE UP THE CURRICULUM, OUR ABILITY TO BE INNOVATIVE AND OFFER A NEW LEARNING STYLE, UM, FOR STUDENTS AND ANOTHER CHOICE, UM, FOR PARENTS LIVING IN THE LOW COUNTRY. OKAY. UM, WOW. SO NOW YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU'RE, YOU ARE GROWING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE K THROUGH 12. YES. SO WITH THE EXPANSION, I GUESS THERE'S NEED FOR NEW FACILITIES. OH YES. , IF YOU DRIVE DOWN GRAY'S HIGHWAY IN RIDGELAND, YOU'LL SEE THIS MASSIVE THREE STORY STRUCTURE RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON THE ROAD. UH, WE HAVE THREE STORIES OF CLASSROOM SPACE ON ONE SIDE THAT IS, UM, 17,000 SQUARE FEET FOR OUR K FIVE. AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS THE COMPETITIVE GYMNASIUM SPACE THAT WILL HOUSE OUR K FIVE. AND THEN JUST ACROSS THE STREET IS OUR SIX 12, UM, STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT IN 2018 AND IS OCCUPIED. SO THAT FACILITY, THE MIDDLE HIGH WILL HOLD 300 STUDENTS AND OUR K FIVE FACILITY CAN HOLD TWO 50 TO 300. SO WE'RE GONNA BE A, A NICE LITTLE CAMPUS, UM, AND AK 12 CONTINUUM FOR FAMILIES. AND YOU MENTIONED GYMNASIUM. SO TELL ME, I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAD, UH, ATHLETICS. YES. SO THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST POPULAR FEATURE OF OUR EXPANSION. UM, THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER SOCCER. A LOT OF US LOST OUR SPORTS PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF COVID, SO WE HAD TO KIND OF REBOOT. UM, WE HAVE A SOCCER TEAM THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE A CROSS COUNTRY TEAM, AND THEN WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE OTHER SPORTS THAT WE WANNA ROLL OUT. SO YES, WE WILL HAVE COMPETITIVE TEAMS. IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE THE SPACE TO PROVIDE IN THAT SMALL ENVIRONMENT. SO, UM, OUR LEARNERS ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO COMPETITIVE SPORTS, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S MAYBE A GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CAN STILL GO TO YOUR SCHOOL AND THEY CAN YES. SO WHAT'S VERY, SO WHAT'S VERY COOL IS BY LAW YOU CAN PLAY AT YOUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICT AS YOUR ZONE FOUR. SO YOU COULD PLAY FOOTBALL IF YOU WERE IN HARDY OR IN RIDGELAND FOR EITHER OF THOSE TEAMS AT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BE A STUDENT WITH US. OKAY. WOW. A LOT HAPPENING OVER. YEAH, AND UM, ALSO SOME EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, POSSIBLY ON THE RISE, BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS OVER THERE RECENTLY WITH THE, UM, ARTISTS IN RESIDENCE. YES. AND SOME STUDENTS WERE TALKING ABOUT ART. SO YES. SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY, AGAIN, TO BE CREATIVE AND WE DO A LOT OF EXTRACURRICULAR PROGRAMMING THROUGH CLUBS. UM, WE HAVE A VERY POPULAR ROBOTICS CLUB THAT HAS TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO COMPETE. THEY'VE DONE VERY WELL. THEY LOVE ROBOTICS. IF YOU LOVE ART AND WE SEE THE INTEREST, WE CAN START AN ART CLUB OR A MUSIC CLUB. UM, THIS YEAR WE HELD A TALENT SHOW AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF TALENT IN OUR BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING THOSE PROGRAMS. SO WE, WE FIND WAYS TO ADD THE ARTS INTO OUR PROGRAM. SO YOU MAY HAVE A PROJECT THAT INVOLVES ART BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO EXPRESS, UM, WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED IN THAT PROJECT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE CAPABILITY FOR STUDENTS, WHETHER IT'S DIGITAL ART, VISUAL ART, MUSIC, ART. IF YOU WANTED TO STAND UP AND SING WHAT YOU LEARNED IN YOUR PROJECT, YOU COULD DO THAT OR CHOREOGRAPH A DANCE. I MEAN, WE JUST REALLY GIVE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WHO THEY ARE AND SHINE THE WAY THEY SHINE THE WAY THEY'RE BEST TO. OKAY. JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO TELL US ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON? OH, I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY. WE LOVE JASPER COUNTY. WE SPECIFICALLY LOVE, UM, THE SWEET TOWN OF RICHLAND. AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH NEED OUT THERE WITH THE POPULATION GROWING HERE AND UM, APPARENTLY EVERYONE MOVING TO SOUTH CAROLINA. SO, UM, WE JUST FEEL FORTUNATE TO BE PART OF THAT. AND WE WERE AT THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR, BUT I KNOW FOR YOU ADMINISTRATORS AND STUFF. IT [01:00:01] REALLY IS JUST A SHORT BREAK IN THERE. YOU'RE STILL WORKING AND GETTING READY. NEXT YEAR IT'S PLANNING TIME . SO GOOD LUCK WITH NEXT YEAR AND ALL THE, UH, NEW GROWTH AND EVERYTHING TAKING PLACE OUT THERE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. WE APPRECIATE IT. THANKS FOR COMING IN. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. AND WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY MISS TAMIL GOODSON. SHE IS THE FOUNDING PRINCIPAL AT A NEW CHARTER SCHOOL HERE, MEETING STREET CHARTER SCHOOL, AND THAT'S GONNA BE HERE IN HARDY BELT. THANKS FOR JOINING ME. YEAH, IT'S A PLEASURE. UM, TO BE HERE, TO BE HERE WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT MEETING STREET JASPER BEAUFORT AND THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. THIS IS A BRAND NEW SCHOOL. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE LOCATED? UH, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE YOU EXPECTING? WHAT GRADES WE START? LET'S JUST HIT ALL OF THAT RIGHT OFF THE TOP. YEAH. SO AT MEETING STREET JASPER BEAUFORT, WE BELIEVE THAT ALL STUDENTS DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACHIEVE. AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT BY PROVIDING AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION. WE ARE OPENING OUR DOORS THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR TO RISING KINDERGARTNERS AND FIRST GRADERS, AND OUR PLAN IS TO EXPAND ALL THE WAY TO 12TH GRADE. SO WE WANNA SEE OUR STUDENTS TO AND THROUGH COLLEGE. UH, WE WILL OPEN THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND WE WILL BUILD A GRADE EACH YEAR FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE ARE LOCATED AT 85 75 EAST ARGENT PARKWAY. FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH OLDFIELD, WE ARE DIRECTLY LOCATED ACROSS THERE AND YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR LOCATION AT MEETING STREET SCHOOLS DOT OR BACK SLASH AND AS JASPER BUFORT. AND THE EXCITING THING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THIS WORK IS JUST WE, FROM THE VERY MOMENT STUDENTS ENTER OUR DOORS ARE INSTILLING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM THIS COLLEGE MINDSET AND WANT TO LET OUR FAMILIES KNOW THAT COLLEGE IS POSSIBLE, IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THEIR SCHOLARS, AND WE WANNA SEE THEM TOO, AND THROUGH, UM, ALL THE WAY TO COLLEGE AND BEYOND. SO, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS NOW, BUT YOU ARE STARTING IN THE FALL. SO HOW CAN PEOPLE GO AHEAD AND GET ENROLLED AND REGISTER AND ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS? YES, IT'S A REALLY EASY, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU CAN FIND OUR APPLICATION ON OUR WEBSITE. UM, AGAIN, THAT WEBSITE, THAT WEB ADDRESS IS, UM, MEETING STREET SCHOOLS.ORG/MS JASPER BUFORD. AND ONCE YOU'RE ON OUR PAGE, IT'S VERY EASY TO NAVIGATE. CLICK THE LINK, THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS. UM, FROM THERE. ANOTHER GREAT THING JUST ABOUT THIS APPLICATION PROCESS AND REGISTRATIONS IS THAT EVERY SINGLE FAMILY THAT HAS ENROLLED I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH AND THEY FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE REACHING OUT TO ME TO GET SUPPORT. IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL FAMILIES WHO HAVE QUESTIONS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT ENROLLING THEIR SCHOLARS. AND SO ONCE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND YOU GET TO OUR PAGE TO NAVIGATE, YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION ON HOW TO CONTACT ME, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THIS NO TUITION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, YOU JUST HAVE TO REGISTER AND ENROLL AND ENROLL AND, AND BE SELECTED, I GUESS. YES, TUITION FREE. THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT THING. QUALITY EDUCATION FOR EVERY SINGLE STUDENT BECAUSE THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE AND IT'S TUITION FREE. AND WE'VE ALSO WON, JUST HEARD THE NEEDS, UH, FROM FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE TALKED TO FAMILIES, WE WANNA CREATE JUST NOT ANY EDUCATIONAL MODEL, BUT ONE THAT IS A NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH OUR PARENTS'. VOICE INCLUDED. PARENTS EXPRESS THE NEED ABOUT WORKING FAMILIES. AND HOW, UH, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM JUST WILL THAT BE AVAILABLE? IT IS AVAILABLE TO EVERY SINGLE STUDENT, AND THAT IS ALSO TUITION FREE. EVERY SINGLE STUDENT WHO ENTERS OUR DOORS THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM FOR FREE. NOW I DROVE THROUGH, UH, EAST SERGEANT, OH, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE IN A WHILE, BUT I KNOW ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE. BUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR STARTING A NEW SCHOOL? I MEAN, I USED TO SEE YOU COME INTO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS. SO JUST TAKE US THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE AND WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. SO THIS PROCESS, AS YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A LOT IN THIS PROCESS, BUT IT'S VERY REWARDING. AND I WISH THAT I COULD TAKE CREDIT FOR IT ALL. BUT IT STARTS WITH, UH, A GROUP OF PEOPLE, THE THE FOUNDING COMMITTEE WHO COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE THAT THEY WANT SOMETHING WITHIN A COMMUNITY. THEY CREATE ALL OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT, UM, IN THE MODEL FOR THIS SCHOOL. AND, UM, I'M GRATEFUL THAT I WAS SELECTED TO BE THE FOUNDING FACE OF THIS SCHOOL, BUT TO START A SCHOOL, IT STARTS WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS VISION. AND OUR VISION, AGAIN, WAS FOR EVERY SINGLE STUDENT TO HAVE ACCESS TO A QUALITY EDUCATION. AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT YOU REALLY, UH, FOCUSING ON GETTING YOUR STUDENTS READY FOR COLLEGE LIFE. UM, WHERE DO YOU FIND YOUR TEACHERS AND, AND WHERE DO YOU GET THEM FROM, UH, OR THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THAT AT MEETING STREET SCHOOLS? UH, WE HIRE TEACHERS WHO HAVE AN UNWAVERING BELIEF [01:05:01] THAT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT CAN ACCESS AND WILL HAVE A QUALITY EDUCATION, UM, AND THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE. SO WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR QUALITY EDUCATIONS. AND I WILL SAY IF, IF PEOPLE COME TO US AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BELIEF THAT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT TO DO CAN DO THIS, UM, DO EDUCATION AND CAN SUCCEED, THEN WE JUST DO NOT, UM, WE DON'T WANT TEACHERS LIKE THAT IN OUR BUILDING. AND WE GO THROUGH A VERY EX EXTENSIVE, UM, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO TRAIN OUR TEACHERS. AND THAT'S A MONTH LONG PROCESS. MOST SCHOOLS START BACK DAY ONE, UH, MAYBE A FEW DAYS BEFORE STUDENTS COME TO THE BUILDING, BUT WE, OUR TEACHERS WILL ACTUALLY START BACK JULY 10TH AND OUR STUDENTS WILL COME BACK ON AUGUST 8TH. SO THAT'S ALMOST A MONTH LONG PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAINING FOR TEACHERS. AND LUCKILY, UH, MOST OF OUR TEACHERS HAVE COME FROM WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY. THEY GREW UP IN THIS COMMUNITY, THEY WENT THROUGH THE EDUCATIONAL, UH, SYSTEM IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND THEY ALSO, AS TEACHERS NOW, UM, SEE THE EDUCATION THAT WE HAVE AND LOVE TO JOIN OUR MISSION AND OUR VISION TO DO EXACTLY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE EVERY STUDENT ACHIEVES. CAN YOU ASK THIS? NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CHARTER SCHOOLS AROUND HERE. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AROUND HERE. IS THERE A NEED? IS THERE ENOUGH STUDENTS OUT THERE THAT, UM, TO BRING ANOTHER CHARTER SCHOOL IN THIS AREA? I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH STUDENTS AND IT IS DEFINITELY A NEED, UM, FOR MORE CHOICE. FAMILIES HAVE A CHOICE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR MODEL WILL EVEN BE A MODEL THAT ALL FAMILIES WILL FEEL IS A FIT FOR THEIR STUDENTS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR A MORE CHOICE AND QUALITY EDUCATION. AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UH, JUST GROWING THERE, THERE'S ENOUGH STUDENTS AND EVERY SINGLE STUDENT DESERVES A QUALITY EDUCATION. SO WHETHER IT'S IN OUR SCHOOL AT MEETING STREET, JASPER BEAUTIFUL OR ANOTHER SCHOOL, I DO BELIEVE THAT PARENTS WILL CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT IS A PERFECT FIT. UM, AND AS SOMEONE WHO IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS WORK, I AM OKAY WITH STUDENTS. UM, BEING WHEREVER IS A PERFECT FIT FOR THEM. UH, AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SCHOOL IS A PERFECT FIT FOR THE STUDENTS WHO ENROLL WITH US. OKAY. EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR NEW PRINCIPAL. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND AND HOW YOU ENDED UP, UH, WITH THIS POSITION. LOVE TO TELL THAT STORY. UM, IT IS HONESTLY THE DRIVER BEHIND THIS WORK AND WHY I AM HERE. I'VE ALWAYS, MY ENTIRE LIFE WANTED TO BE AN EDUCATOR. I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO WORK WITH KIDS, UM, FAMILIES, AND I GREW UP IN A LITTLE SMALL TOWN CALLED GAFFNEY, SOUTH CAROLINA. AND WHERE I GREW UP, THERE AREN'T MANY SCHOOL CHOICES. UH, SO WHERE WE ALL WENT TO ONE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, RIGHT THERE IN GAFFNEY. AND I WENT ON TO COLLEGE AND IT WAS IN COLLEGE THAT I KNEW AFTER SEEING EDUCATION AND THE EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT I WANTED TO BE, UM, AN EDUCATOR AND DO MORE WORK AROUND EDUCATION. SO I WENT ON TO TEACH IN CHARLESTON COUNTY FOR A FEW YEARS AND MOVED BACK TO SPARTANBURG, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE I FOUND MEETING STREET SPARTAN, UM, MAIN STREET ACADEMY SPARTANBURG, AND TAUGHT THERE FOR A FEW YEARS, WAS A DEAN OF CURRICULUM THERE. SO I HELPED COACH TEACHERS AND OUR SCHOOL AT THE CAMPUS THERE FOR A FEW YEARS AND AM STILL WORKING REALLY HARD IN OUR NETWORK TO PROVE WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR KIDS. THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING A FOUNDING PRINCIPAL PRESENTED ITSELF. AND BEFORE I EVEN KNEW EXACTLY WHAT JASPER COUNTY, BEAUFORT COUNTY EXACTLY WAS, I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO MOVE HERE AND DO THE WORK. IT WAS THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD WAS THE INTERNET AND WHAT WAS THERE. AND AFTER DRIVING THROUGH AND COME AND I'M LIKE, I TOLD MYSELF THIS IS HOME AND THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO BRING OUR MODEL, OUR SCHOOL MODEL AND, UH, THE MEETING STREET SCHOOL MODEL AND GIVE, LET THIS BE A CHOICE FOR FAMILIES. SO NOW THAT I AM HERE, I DO FEEL LIKE I'M A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY EVEN MORE, JUST SPENDING TIME WITH OUR FAMILIES AND THE STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY ENROLLED. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS, UM, A RELATIONSHIP THERE AND REALLY HAPPY THAT MY JOURNEY HAS LED ME TO THIS COUNTY TO PROVE WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR KIDS. AND YOU'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT WILL MAKE THIS EXPERIENCE SO GREAT FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ARE COMING IN? EXCELLENT. UM, INSTILLING THAT MINDSET. I STARTED WITH AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN YOU ASKED JUST MORE ABOUT OUR SCHOOL. FROM THE MOMENT STUDENTS ENTER OUR DOORS, WE ARE GOING TO INSTILL IN THEM THIS COLLEGE MINDSET AND THAT IS GOING TO GUIDE EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE IN OUR BUILDING. FIRST, STARTING WITH OUR TWO TEACHER MODEL. THERE'S TWO TEACHERS IN EVERY LOWER GRADE CLASSROOM, UM, TO GIVE STUDENTS DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATED INSTRUCTION, SMALL GROUP, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT STUDENTS DESERVE THAT. IF WE [01:10:01] REALLY WANNA GET STUDENTS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ON HOW WE DIFFERENTIATE. SO THIS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT OUR TEACHERS ARE GOING THROUGH FOR ALMOST A MONTH IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO GIVE STUDENTS DIFFERENTIATED INSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO OUR RIGOROUS, UH, ACADEMIC CURRICULUM. OUR CURRICULUM IS AN AMAZING CURRICULUM THAT IS GONNA SET STUDENTS UP FOR SUCCESS. WE HAVE A FOCUS ON READING THE SCIENCE OF READING, WHICH IS REALLY POPULAR NOW IN MAKING SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT LEAVE KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE ON GRADE LEVEL SO THAT THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN MATH AND READING. AND ALSO THAT WE'VE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE NEEDS. AND OUR MODEL HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE NEED DOWN TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM IS AFFORDABLE FOR FAMILIES. OKAY. JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK IF JUST ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP THAT I MAY NOT HAVE ASKED? I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT, UH, I AM REALLY EXCITED TO NOW BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR MISSION AND OUR MODEL AND JUST THE PASSION AROUND THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE HIRED WHO ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE KID IS SUCCESSFUL, EVERY SINGLE STUDENT, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY. AND ALTHOUGH I WANT TO TAKE THE CREDIT FOR A LOT OF THIS WORK AND SAY THAT I'M GIVING STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ACHIEVE, I WANT OUR FAMILIES TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT THEIR STUDENTS CAN GET TO COLLEGE AND THAT IT'S POSSIBLE AND THAT THEY'RE TRUSTING ME WITH THE BEST THING THAT THEY HAVE. AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY MY GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE INSTILLED WITH THE COLLEGE MINDSET AND THEY ARE EQUIPPED AND SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO LOVE AND BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DO IT. MR. TAMIL, GOOD SENSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN. UH, WE WISH YOU THE BEST WITH THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US NOW. IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR TOPICS OR SUBJECTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON SPEAKING OF HARDEE, GO, PLEASE CONTACT US AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME HERE ON SPEAKING OF PARTY BILL, WE CAUGHT A LOT OF FISH. WE FILLED UP FIVE BUCKETS. WE GOT A LOT. WE GOT A COUPLE TINY ONES AND A COUPLE BIG ONES. YEAH. NATIONAL KIDS TO PARK DAY IS AN EVENT THAT'S HELD OUT EVERY YEAR THROUGH PARKS AND STATES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY SO THAT KIDS CAN GET, BE FROM BEHIND THE SCREENS, GET OUTDOORS, AND FALL IN LOVE WITH THE NATURAL WORLD AROUND THEM. HARDY WILL JUST SO HAPPENS TO DO THEIR SWEAT CATFISH, AND I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE BEHIND ME CATCHING THE FISH. IT IS AMAZING AND IT'S JUST VERY GRATIFYING TO GET TO SEE THE KITS OUT HERE CATCHING FISH AND GETTING TO EXPERIENCE THE NATURAL WORLD. GET SOME INTEREST IN FISHING, IN, YOU KNOW, THE OUTDOORS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING. YEAH, I AGREE. IT BRINGS THE LOCAL PEOPLE OUT. UM, SOME, UM, KIDS HERE DON'T EVER GET TO FISH, SO THEY COME HERE AND THEY CAN LEARN THE FUNDAMENTALS OF FISHING AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. YOU GOT THIS WHOLE BUCKET AND THE OTHER ONE, I GOT A BIGGER ONE IN THAT. AND WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE PART ABOUT JUST BEING OUT HERE CATCHING A FISH? ACTUALLY JUST CATCHING LIKE A, WE USUALLY HANDLE THE BAIT AS YOU CAN SEE. WE HANDLE THE BAIT FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE SOME BAIT TO FISH WITH, AND WE DO THE, UH, REHOOK AND RELINING OF FISHING CANE POLES TOO. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT HERE TO HELP SUPPORT OUR, OUR REC DEPARTMENT AND, AND, AND PUTTING ALL THIS NICE PROGRAM FOR THE KIDS AND EVERYBODY JUST COMES TOGETHER. EVERYONE FROM THE CITY COMES OUT AND SHOWS THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS EVENT. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PROVIDING SAFETY AND ALSO ASSISTING SOME OF THE, UH, THE YOUNG KIDS THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE A FISH OFF THE LINE OR, OR HELPING THEM WITH THAT OR COACHING THEM. JUST BEING OUT HERE AS A SAFETY, UH, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE. WHAT YOU BEEN DOING WITH COME, COME IN FISH, CATCHING ALL THE FISH. CATCHING ALL THE FISH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND DO YOU ENJOY COMING OUT HERE EVERY YEAR? COME EVER SINCE [01:15:01] THEY'VE HAD ONE? YES. YES MA'AM. IT'S ONE OF THEIR FAVORITE EVENTS THAT THE CITY DOES. WATCHING THE KIDS CATCH FISH, THAT'S A GREAT THING. AND WATCHING, HAVING SMILES ON THEIR FACE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO IT'S JUST A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY TO PUT ON EVERY YEAR AND WE ENJOY PUTTING IT ON. FAMILIES ARE HAVING FUN, KIDS ARE HAVING FUN. UH, IT'S A GOOD TIME. MY LITTLE BOY, HE'S CAUGHT, UH, ABOUT A BUCKET FULL OF FISH, SO IT'S JUST BEEN AN OUTSTANDING MORNING. I'M HERE TODAY, UH, AS PART OF THE EXHIBIT AT THE MORRIS CENTER FOR LOWCOUNTRY HERITAGE. UM, I'M ABLE TO GO TO A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS AND SHARE WHAT I'M DOING WITH THE STUDENTS. IT'S REALLY, IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WHAT I'M DOING WITH OTHERS. THE MORRIS CENTER WANTED TO GIVE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE ARTIST HERSELF, SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE ARE HOSTING HER TO COME HERE TODAY AS WELL AS TO ANOTHER SCHOOL IN RIDGELAND. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO YOU GUYS. HI EVERYONE. MY NAME'S KIRKLAND SMITH AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT I CAN COME HERE TODAY AND SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS EXPLAIN WHY I AM DOING WHAT I'M DOING, UH, BECAUSE I DIDN'T ASPIRE TO BE A TRASH ARTIST OR, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH TRASH. BUT, BUT THERE IS A, A MESSAGE AND A MEANING BEHIND THE WORK THAT I'M DOING. AND I FEEL LIKE EVERY ARTIST HAS THEIR ART JOURNEY. BEFORE I STARTED DOING THIS WORK, I WAS A PAINTER. I LOVE DOING PORTRAITS, I LOVE FACES. I WAS WORKING IN OIL PAINT, PASTELS, CHARCOAL, AND I LOVE THAT I'M TALKING TO ART STUDENTS BECAUSE MAYBE I'LL HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THIS MATERIAL. AND SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS DOING, ONE OF THE THINGS I DECIDED TO DO TO CHALLENGE MYSELF AS AN ARTIST WAS TO ENTER AN ART COMPETITION BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN SCHOOL FOR A LONG TIME. AND I THINK THAT LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE IN SCHOOL, YOU HAVE ASSIGNMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND YOU TRY TO CREATE A PROJECT FOR THAT GIVES YOU A PROBLEM TO SOLVE. AND SO THE COMPETITION THAT I ENTERED WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LANDSCAPE AND THE ARTISTS WERE ASKED TO PICK AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THAT'S A PROBLEM, SOMETHING IN OUR WORLD, AND CREATE ART OUT OF IT. AND SO I STARTED JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT. AND AT THE TIME I HAD FOUR LITTLE CHILDREN AND I WAS JUST VERY AWARE OF HOW MUCH LIKE PLASTIC STUFF CAME INTO OUR HOUSE. THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT EVERYBODY CAN EXPRESS ART. LIKE HE TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT MEDIUMS YOU CAN USE, AND THERE'S LIKE COLOR PENCILS AND MARKERS SHE USES, YOU KNOW, TRASH THAT WE FIND THAT IS WASTE. SO I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING. YEAH, SAME AS WELL, IT WAS, UH, VERY UNIQUE TO SEE AND, UH, A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE. AND IT, I THINK OPENED MY EYES PERSONALLY IN A NEW WAY OF ART AND HOW ART CAN BE CREATED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. MOSTLY I JUST, I WANNA CONNECT WITH THE STUDENTS. I FEEL LIKE I IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT PART OF ANY ARTWORK, THE ARTIST DOES THEIR PART AND I HAVE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT I'M DOING, BUT THEN THE VIEWER BRINGS THEIR EXPERIENCES AND THEIR THOUGHTS TO THE WORK AS WELL. AND THEY MIGHT CONNECT WITH IT IN SOMETIMES A DIFFERENT WAY THAN I'M MEANT FOR THEM TO. BUT IT'S, IT'S VALID. IT'S STILL VERY GOOD. I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE THIS WORK IS SO ACCESSIBLE TO CHILDREN OF ALL AGES, UH, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION TO START WITH KIDS ABOUT JUST EXPLORING AND TRYING NEW THINGS. I DON'T DO ART THAT OFTEN, BUT MY OLDER BROTHER DOES ART AS WELL. AND WHEN I WATCH HIM CREATE HIS PIECES, I LEARN MORE AND MORE. AND I AM BEGINNING TO BECOME MORE INTERESTED IN ART. AND FROM THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK BACK TO MAYBE A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN FIFTH GRADE AND WE HAD TO CREATE THIS PROJECT OUT OF POPSICLE STICKS AND LIKE GLUE THEM TOGETHER AND BUILD A BRIDGE AND A STRENGTH TEST. AND I'M JUST THINKING HOW SHE DID THIS ART WITH TRASH AND HOW SHE REUSED IT AND IT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL. AND HOW THE SAME ART BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS CAN BE CREATED AS WELL. I DO LIKE TO SHARE WITH STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, I, IT USED TO BE MY SECRET, BUT I LIKE TO SHARE WITH THEM THAT I TRIED, YOU KNOW, ENTERING A COMPETITION AND I WAS REJECTED. A STUDENT TODAY VOLUNTEERED THAT SHE HAD ENTERED A COMPETITION AND [01:20:01] SHE GOT THIRD PRIZE MADE, LIKE THESE PROPS OUT OF LIKE, AND IT KIND OF REMINDED ME OF HER BECAUSE I HAD TO, TO USE LIKE A STYROFOAM THING TO MAKE A TABLE FOR A FLOWER SHOP. I BOUGHT LIKE FAKE PLANTS AND I USED POSTER BOARD AS A BACKGROUND TO MAKE LIKE THE FLOWER SHOP LOOKING. SO IT LOOKED LIKE A REAL FLOWER SHOP. AND IF YOU BACKED UP, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ONE. IF YOU WENT CLOSER, YOU WOULD SEE IT KIND OF. BUT THAT'S WHAT MY OPINION, DO WHAT YOU LOVE AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA SAY, SAY IT AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT. BUT, UH, BUT REALIZE THAT ART IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, DRAWING WITH PENCIL AND PAPER. IT CAN BE, YOU CAN MAKE ART OUT OF ANYTHING. I LIKE THE MARILYN MONROE, UH, ARTWORK PERSONALLY. I, UM, HAVE A POSTER AT OF HER AT HOME AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THE PORTRAITS ARE REALLY AMAZING HOW SHE BRINGS A LIFE, UM, FROM ART. WHAT ABOUT YOU? MINES WAS LIKE THE SWANS THAT SHE DID, OR I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BIRD IT WAS, BUT IT WAS LIKE THOSE, OR LIKE, I THINK IT WAS A CRANES OR PARENTS OR PARENTS. BUT IT'S BECAUSE LIKE I LOVE BIRDS LIKE THAT. AND AT THEMORE CENTER I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE, SO I SAW LIKE ONE OF THEM WITH THE FLYING BIRD AND IT WAS REALLY PRETTY. 'CAUSE WHEN YOU BACKED UP YOU COULD SEE IT. AND EVEN WHEN YOU CLOSED UP, YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT SHE USED TO MAKE THE, AS HE SAID, LIKE COME ALIVE THAT YOU FOUND IT WAS REALLY PRETTY. OKAY. SO I'LL BE HERE AT THE MORRIS CENTER UNTIL THE SHOW WILL BE UP UNTIL JULY 15TH. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO A WORKSHOP ON JUNE 10TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY, UH, LIKE A THREE HOUR WORKSHOP. AND FOR PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP FOR THAT, I'LL BRING ALL THE MATERIALS. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST BRING YOURSELF. AND WHAT I WANNA DO IS JUST GUIDE PEOPLE THROUGH MY PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE A SUCCESSFUL PIECE. , WE COME TO YOU. EXCUSE ME. WE COME TO YOU THIS HOUR ASKING FOR YOUR BLESSING AND HELP. AS WE ARE GATHERING, WE PRAY FOR GUIDANCE IN THE MATTERS AT HAND AND ASK THAT YOU WOULD CLEARLY SHOW US HOW TO CONDUCT OUR WORK WITH THE SPIRIT OF JOY AND ENTHUSIASM IN YOUR JESUS. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE PLAQUE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS ONE NATION WITH LIBERTY AND I JUSTICE. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY, UM, A TAX MEETING. DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. NEXT, WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW AT LARGE MEMBER, DR. ALLEN WOODELL FROM THE WOODELL CAPITAL CHIROPRACTIC. HELLO. HI, I NEED TO PUSH THIS. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON. UH, HI EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UH, PLEASURE TO SERVE AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THESE PROJECTS. WELCOME TO HARDY. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE, UH, TAX FUNDS FOR THE QUARTERLY REPORT. MS. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING COMMITTEE CHAIR AND MEMBERS. UM, THIS IS FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER ENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023. UM, THE BALANCE OF JULY AS OF JULY 1ST, 2022. THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WAS 1 48, 2 13. ALL THE CASH RECEIPTS THAT CAME IN. WE HAD OUR FIRST QUARTERLY STATE DISTRIBUTION ON 10 24 OF 22 FOR 58,967. OUR SECOND QUARTERLY STATEMENT WITH DISTRIBUTION ON 1 26 OF 23 FOR 51 9 1 9. OUR THIRD ONE CAME IN IN APRIL ON APRIL 26 AND IT'S 53 58. WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE LEFT. IT DOESN'T USUALLY COME UNTIL THE END OF JULY. YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON OTHER REIMBURSEMENTS. SO WE HAD A REIMBURSEMENT OR REFUND FROM JASPER COUNTY RADIO CAMPAIGN OF 186 AND THE SUN CITY PICKLEBALL REIMBURSEMENT OF 1 39 TOTAL CASH RECEIPTS, 1 61 5 69 CASH PAID OUT. SUN CITY PICKLEBALL CLUB ON IN FEBRUARY [01:25:01] WAS 14,825 SOUTH CAROLINA LOWCOUNTRY TOURISM COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY WAS 11 7 50. THE JASPER COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY, SHAME OF COMMERCE CAME IN. THESE ARE FOR, UM, FISCAL YEAR 2024, BUT THEY WERE APPROVED IN MAY FOR THE BILLBOARDS, DIGITAL ADVERTISEMENT, RADIO ADVERTISEMENT, AND VISITOR CENTER OPERATIONS. UM, THEN WE HAD THE CITY OF HARDY BILL, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT COME IN AND ASK FOR MONEY FOR THE FESTIVAL ON MAINE IN MAY AND THE DOG PARK IN MAY. ALL OF THAT TOTALING ONE THOU 167,784. THE BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2023 IS $141,998. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 2024, UH, DMO ANNUAL BUDGET FOR JASPER COUNTY. HOW OLD ARE YOU KENDALL? MORNING. MORNING. UM, CINDY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WASN'T ALL THAT JUST THE INDIRECT, UM, THAT YOU YEAH, WELL, YEAH, THAT, SO NORMALLY THE FUNDS THAT ARE APP APPROVED THAT I JUST WENT OVER IS ALL FROM THE INDIRECT FUND. WE HAVE FROM THE INDIRECT, AND THEN WE HAVE A DIRECT FUND. THE DIRECT FUND IS THE DMO, WHICH IS WHAT KENDALL TOLD. THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING OVER TODAY IS THE, UM, DMO MONIES. THE DE THE JASPER COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SERVES AS THE DESIGNATED MARKETING ORGANIZATION FOR THE CITY OF HARDY. AND THAT IS CONSIDERED THE DIRECT FUND. SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ON ANY OF THAT REPORT, YOU JUST, IT'S NOT ON THERE. SO USUALLY IT'S 30% FROM THE STATE COME THAT COMES BACK FROM THE STATE AND THE CITY OF HARVILLE HAS TO ALLOT IT TO, UH, DESIGNATED MARKETING ORGANIZATION. AND THEY HAVE CHOSEN US AS TO SERVE AS THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY. UM, YOU GUYS WERE SUBMITTED, THE BUDGET. UM, I BASE THIS COMPLETELY ON SINCE I NEVER REALLY KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH I'M GONNA GET. I HAVE TO BASE IT ON THE PRIOR YEAR, UM, THE YEAR BEFORE WE RECEIVED, UM, 94,000 JUST TO BE SAFE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I BUDGETED 92. I WILL TELL YOU, HOWEVER, IF IT IS OVER, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN'T SPEND THIS ON ANYTHING BUT HARDY. SO IT GETS SPENT ON HARDY. IF IT'S OVER, WE J WE CONTINUE TO SPEND IT ON, ON NOTHING BUT HARDY VILLE. UM, SO I ESTIMATED 92,000 IN THE, UM, ADVERTISING, UM, PRINT, DIGITAL BROADCAST, SOCIAL, ET CETERA. YOU'LL SEE THE 63,000. IT INCLUDES THINGS BUT NOT LIMITED TO. WE DO ALL OF THE MARKETING FOR FESTIVAL ON MAINE. THAT USUALLY RUNS AROUND 15 TO $18,000, SOMEWHERE AROUND IN THERE. UM, WE DO THE HOLIDAYS, WHICH IS THE SNOW DAY. THAT'S IN DECEMBER. WE, LAST YEAR WE PROVIDED THE SNOW. UM, WE SPONSORED THE SNOW AND THE SLIDES AND ALL, AND THAT WAS $8,000. UM, WE SPONSORED THE HERITAGE, UM, ON HILTON HEAD, WHICH GIVES HARDY V EXPOSURE BECAUSE WE BRAND HARDY V TO THAT AREA OVER THERE. AND THAT USUALLY RUNS AROUND FIVE TO $6,000. UM, AND ONE OF THE PUBLICATIONS THAT I FORGOT TO BRING WAS SOUTH CAROLINA LIVING MAGAZINE, WHICH IS THE MAGAZINE THAT'S PUT OUT BY PALMED ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE. AND IT, IT GOES REGIONALLY HERE AND IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT PRINT PIECE. UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS A LOT, SOME OF THE BILLBOARD THROUGH THE INDIRECT, BUT WE ALSO USED A LITTLE BIT OF THE DMO TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE BILLBOARDS AS WELL. UM, AND THEN I BROUGHT SOME SAMPLES, THESE USA TODAY REGIONAL MAGAZINES. WE DO A HUNT AND FISH BECAUSE WE HUNT AND FISH A LOT HERE, . UM, WE DO A GO ESCAPE SOUTHEAST REGION, WHICH IS HERE AND HERE. SOUTHEAST IS GEORGIA, KENTUCKY, THE CAROLINAS, THE GULF COAST, TENNESSEE. I THINK IT INCLUDES KENTUCKY AS WELL. AND THEN WE DO A, UM, NATIONAL PARKS FOR THE SAVANNAH WILDLIFE REFUGE AND WHATNOT. AND I DID, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THESE, I DID DOG EAR WHERE THE AD IS, UM, IN EACH OF THEM. FOR EXAMPLE HERE IS, IT'S A HALF PAGE VILLE AND THE SAME AD RUNS IN EACH OF THEM TO TRY TO VISUALIZE AND GET A BRAND GOING. SO IF WE, THIS YEAR, IF WE GO TO A NEW AD WHEN WE, WE WILL DO THE SAME AD IN ALL OF THEM JUST TO GET, SO THAT'S THE AD THAT'S IN ALL OF THEM THIS YEAR. UM, WE DO, WE DO [01:30:01] THE MAPS, WE DO THE LOW COUNTRY GUIDEBOOK JUST CAME OUT, UM, THIS WEEK, SO YOU'LL BE GETTING A NEW ONE. IT HAS A FULL PAGE ABOUT HARDY VILLE IN THERE. WE DO THE HARDY BROCHURES. I KNOW THIS YEAR I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NEIL AND WE ARE DOING A WELCOME PACKAGE, UM, WHICH WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THROUGH THE DMO AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST SOME SAMPLES OF SOME OF THE STUFF WE DO. UM, LIKE IT SAYS HERE, SOME SOCIAL MEDIA, SOME DIGITAL, BUT ALL OF THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INDIRECT THAT WE WERE AWARDED. THAT'S ALL SEPARATE AND THAT'S ALL WHAT THAT PAYS FOR. UM, MARKETING SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE TO CREATE THESE ADS AND TO CREATE CONTENT AND TO TAKE PHOTOS AND VIDEOS OR WHATNOT. THAT'S WHAT THE MARKETING SUPPORT IS. AND THEN, UM, VISITOR SERVICES AT BOTH THE CENTERS, THE CALLS, THE INFORMATION, AND THEN ADMIN FEES FOR US TO DO ALL THIS. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. I ALSO HAVE, UM, LAST YEAR'S COMPLETE FINANCIAL STATEMENT IF ANYONE CARESS TO SEE WHAT WE SPENT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS JUST HOW MUCH WAS SPENT LAST YEAR? LAST YEAR? WE ACTUALLY WENT OVER LAST YEAR WE GOT, UM, WE RECEIVED $94,135 55 CENTS. WE SPENT 96,800 1920. OKAY. SO, UM, BUT THAT 18 OF THAT WAS THESE ADMIN FEES AND WHATNOT, WHICH GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CHAMBER. SO TECHNICALLY THAT'S ABOUT 20% IS WHAT, WHAT IT, UM, COMES DOWN TO FOR US TO DO ALL THE WORK. SO, AND, AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT ANY OF THIS, I'LL BE GLAD TO PASS IT TO YOU, BUT IT'S A ITEMIZED OF EVERYTHING WE SPENT AND THEN THE, THE MONEY WE RECEIVED BY QUARTER. AND THAT'S, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO THROW 'EM AT ME, JUST THROW 'EM AT ME LOUDLY. SURE. UH, WHO ARE YOU USING FOR YOUR, UM, PRINT AND DIGITAL AND LIKE WHAT ARE THE COMP, WHAT ARE THE COMPANIES YOU'RE USING TO DO THAT WORK? UM, WE USE, WELL THIS COMES FROM THE GUYS AT LOW COUNTRY TOURIST COMMISSION AND THEY USE COMPASS MEDIA. UM, WE USE ACCURATE LITHOGRAPH TO PRINT THINGS. THE COMPANIES THAT WE ADVERTISE IN HAVE IN-HOUSE. SOME HAVE IN-HOUSE GRAPHICS THAT WE USE. AND THEN WE ALSO USE THE DENARIUS GROUP ON HILTON HEAD. THEY DO A LOT OF OUR MEDIA SCHEDULES AND OUR CREATIONS AND OUR, UM, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY'LL DO AN ENTIRE MEDIA SCHEDULE FOR US FOR THINGS LIKE FESTIVAL MAINE. THEY'LL HAVE THE RADIO SCHEDULE, THE DIGITAL SCHEDULE, THE PRINT SCHEDULE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE, THE DENARIUS GROUP, AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US AND THEY'RE VERY REASONABLE. SO, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU SEE UNDER THE MARKETING, UM, SUPPORT. OKAY. THAT TEN TEN ONE, THAT'S, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DENARIUS AND YOUR PRINT, THESE PRINTED ITEMS LIKE THE BROCHURES AND THE BOOKLETS, WHERE DO THOSE END UP? UM, THEY END UP IN ALL THE WELCOME CENTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND AS FAR AND AS WELL AS OURS HERE IN HARDY V AND IN RIDGELAND AND HERE AT HARDY V. AND THEN ANYBODY ELSE, LIKE HOTELS OR ANYBODY WHO REQUESTS THEM MM-HMM. , BUT THEY ARE ALL IN THE WELCOME CENTERS AND THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW WELCOME PACKAGE THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AS WELL. AND WE ALSO INCLUDE THEM IN RELOCATION PACKAGES. WE MAIL OUT QUITE A FEW OF THOSE. WE'LL GET CALLS, PEOPLE ARE RELOCATING AND WE INCLUDE THEM IN THOSE AS WELL. A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL WANNA HOLD AND LOOK. I KNOW EVERYTHING'S KIND OF DIGITAL, BUT THERE ARE THOSE THAT STILL WANNA SEE. SO IT'S A RETIREMENT AND ALL OF IT IS DIGITAL AS WELL. YOU CAN PULL IT ALL UP. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS PRINT STUFF IS ALSO DIGITAL, SO IF THEY DON'T WANNA HOLD THE PRINT, THEY CAN PULL IT UP. SO. OKAY. I'M, NO, I'M GOOD. I'LL DEFER TO YOU GUYS THAT KINDA SEE THIS FIRSTHAND. I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, SOMETHING I, I PERSONALLY THINK STUFF THAT YOU GUYS DO WORKS. UM, I THINK SO TOO. WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME RIGHT OFF, YOU KNOW, UM, AND ASKING QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THINGS, YOU KNOW, FOR HARDY BILL. SO I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEING HARDY BILL'S NAME OUT THERE. WELL GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW. I LIKE TO HEAR THINGS LIKE THAT. [01:35:01] KENDALL, AS FAR AS THE OVERAGE THAT YOU SPENT THIS YEAR, DOES THAT COME OUT OF THE OTHER MONEY THAT WE GIVE TO YOU? THAT, UM, NORMALLY BECAUSE IT'S JUST ADMIN FEES, THE CHAMBER ABSORBS THAT COST. OKAY. SO TECHNICALLY I COULD MAKE THAT EVEN OUT. LIKE THAT'S 20, 22%. I THINK I COULD GO TO 20% SAY AND JUST EVEN THAT OUT. TECHNICALLY I COULD DO THAT, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT THE CHAMBER DOES SOME OF THE CHAMBER COFFERS AS WELL. RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T SEE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS MOVE TO APPROVE? SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU GUYS. I'LL MAKE MY AYE EASY. UM, THE NEXT IS A NOTICE OF OUR NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER 10TH AT 10:00 AM AND WITH THAT I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. UH, ONE MORE COMMENT. OKAY. CINDY, I'VE NOTICED, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR THIS CINDY. UH, WHEN I ARRIVE AT NIGHT, THE LIGHTS ON THE INTERSTATE ARE NOT ON. I MEAN, YOU GOT AT LEAST 10 OR 15 POLES ON BOTH ENDS THAT ARE NOT WORKING. UM, MAYBE IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, KIND OF KIND OF RINGING ON THE ONES THAT DON'T WORK AND THEN CALL IT IN THE NEXT MORNING. OKAY. I'M, I'M ASSUMING IT'S, UM, ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU JUST PICK UP THE PHONE CALL IN THE POLL NUMBER IN 48 HOURS. IT'S FIXED. IS IT ON BOTH SIDES? BOTH. BOTH EXITS. AND IF IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD GET THE . IT MIGHT BE, UM, THE ELECTRIC COMPANY. YEAH. ELECTRIC DOMINION. IS DOMINION. THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE WHAT SIDE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH. YEP. OKAY. I'LL LOOK. IT. OKAY. CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT? MOVE SECOND. EVERYBODY GO. AYE. THANK YOU. NOW ONE WHAT BROUGHT ME OUT HERE IS I'M PART OF HARDY AND THIS IS PART HARDY, MARK AND RICKS DOES A FANTASTIC JOB PUTTING ON EVENTS A FAMILY EVENT LIKE THIS IS, YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. YEAH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, I WOULD SAY REALLY THIS PAST MONTH. WE PUT EVERYTHING YOU SEE, WE PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, WHETHER IT'S FLAGS, GIFTS, TOYS, THE INFLATABLES. SO, AND IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN FUN IN THE PROCESS AND IT'S ALL THAT MATTERS THAT WE'RE HAVING FUN. WE ARE REALLY ENJOYING OURSELVES. WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE THING ABOUT BEING OUT HERE? THE MUSIC IS GREAT. LOVE OF MUSIC, LOVE OF SEEING PEOPLE ENJOY IT, FOR THEM TO CLAP, ENJOY IT. LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO DANCE. I KNOW IT'S TOUGH IN MOTHER LIKE THIS WITH THE HEAT, BUT IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S MORE THAN JUST GETTING PAID FOR THE JOB. COMRADERY. COMRADERY. HAVE A GREAT TIME. JUST HAVE A GREAT TIME TOGETHER. ENJOY EACH OTHER AND JUST ENJOY DOING MUSIC FOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE MUSIC TO ME IS, IS THE, UH, COMMON MIND. WE ARE A RESIDENT OF PARTY NOW. WE CAME FROM WISCONSIN AND WE JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT NEW TRADITIONS. COURSE IT'S ARRIVE. IS THIS YOUR FIRST PARTY MILL EVENT? EXCUSE ME? IS THIS YOUR FIRST HARDY MILL EVENT? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR THIS EVENT. AND WHAT'S BEEN YOUR FAVORITE THING SO FAR? SO WE'RE OUT HERE WITH THE CITY OF PARTY BILLS, CELEBRATING THE 4TH OF JULY. AND BEHIND US WE HAVE THE OUTRAGE ROOM, WHICH IS A MOBILE RAGE ROOM. IT'S CENTERED AROUND BRINGING WELLNESS TO COMMUNITIES AND HELPING PEOPLE TO REALLY CHECK IN WITH THEMSELVES AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. AND MEL, YOU GOT TO GO IN THERE. HOW WAS IT? OH MY GOSH. SO I WAS LIKE, THREE MINUTES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME. LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR GIRL'S NOT, DAMN. NO, THAT WAS A LONG TIME. I FELT LIKE I GOT LIKE A MONTH OR TWO OF THERAPY JUST NOW . AND THEY DIDN'T WORK OUT [01:40:01] TOO GREAT. AWESOME. WE LOVE THAT. WE LOVE TO HEAR THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY NEEDED. AND SO WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY IN THE COMMUNITY OF HARVILLE AND HELPING PEOPLE SMASH OUT SOME OF THEIR RAVE. YOU SEE THE KIDS HAVING A GOOD TIME WITH THIS. WE HAVE VENDORS OR THE FOOD VENDORS ARE DOING WELL. EXCELLENT MUSIC COMING ON OUT HERE AND HERE IT IS. AND PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING IN AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FIREWORKS 'CAUSE I'M JUST LIKE A LITTLE KID WITH FIREWORKS. AND YOU MENTIONED YOU CAME HERE WITH YOUR GRANDSON, CORRECT? YES. HOW DOES IT FEEL JUST BEING ABLE TO BRING HIM TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I'M FORTUNATE THAT MY DAUGHTER SON-IN-LAW AND THREE GRANDCHILDREN LIVE JUST ACROSS, OVER INTO GEORGIA OVER THERE. SO WE SEE 'EM OFTEN, BUT TO BRING THEM TO AN EVENT LIKE THIS AND LET THEM SEE WHAT A A FAMILY EVENT IS, UH, THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, FESTIVAL ON MAINE THIS FALL. WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING THAT ONE OUT FOR, FOR THE FAMILY. SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND HOW PROUD ARE YOU JUST TO BE THE COUNCILMAN OF HARDY HERE TONIGHT? OH, I COULDN'T BE PROUDER. UM, HARDY IS MY TOWN NOW. THIS IS, THIS IS A TOWN THAT'S GONNA GROW AND I SURE WANNA BE PART OF IT. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE THING ABOUT 4TH OF JULY WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF FIREWORKS? FIREWORKS? WHAT ABOUT YOU? SAME. ARE DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE FIREWORKS TONIGHT? YEAH, WE DO. WHAT ARE Y'ALL GONNA DO WHEN THE FIREWORKS COME OUT? I'M GONNA SIT AND LOOK AT IT. WATCH YOU WATCH THEM? YEAH. DO DO YOU HAVE LIKE A FAVORITE COLOR OF FIREWORKS? PEACH. THERE'S LIKE, UM, PEACH AND IT STARTS TO SPRINKLE EVERYWHERE. LIKE WHEN IT BOMBS, IT GOT SPRINKLED. I THE WITH THE BLUE ONE. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION, UM, WHAT DO YOU GUYS DO AT HOME FOR COURSE OF JULY? DO YOU HAVE A BARBECUE? DO YOU HANG OUT WITH FRIENDS? WE SOMETIMES WE DO FIREWORKS. WE JUST GOT HERE PROBABLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO. WE JUST WALKING AROUND TO BROWSE IT AROUND TO SEE WHAT WE GONNA PURCHASE OR WHATEVER. BUT THE KIDS PLANNING TO GET FACE PAINTING AND SOME TOYS AND LOTS OF FOOD. ARE YOU HAPPY HARDY BILL DOES EVENTS LIKE THIS? YES, WE ARE, WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THEY HAVE EVENTS SO WE CAN GET OUT AND ENJOY OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TONIGHT AND KEEPING US SAFE ON THE ROADS. THANK YOU FOR THE WEATHER, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT ALWAYS PLEASANT. WE DO NEED THE WATER FOR OUR PLANTS AND TO GROW OUR FOOD, BUT WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS OUR TOWN, AND HELP US TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR IT. JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT IS 5:31 PM ON MONDAY, JULY 10TH. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. UH, MAY I PLEASE GET APPROVAL OF AGENDA? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED FOR THE AGENDA TODAY? OKAY, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? I MOVED SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. YOU GOOD? UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. ANY PUBLIC PRESENTS? YES. YAY. IS BACK WITH, UM, SHE'S GONNA BE THE, UH, LADY OF THE, OF THE MOMENT. SHE HAS EXCITING UPDATES FOR ALL OF US. UM, AND, UH, YEAH, HI. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. WAIT, CAN YOU HEAR IT? OKAY. GOTCHA. SO, UM, WHOA, WE GOOD? [01:45:01] OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S KIND OF BLANKING OUT ON US, BUT THIS IS JUST A, A RE A PAGE. I, I PROMISED YOU A POWERPOINT AND UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO PRESENT TO YOU IS NOT TO OVERWHELM YOU OR GIVE YOU TOO MUCH INFORMATION AT ONE TIME, BUT WE'RE PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER SO THAT IN THE FUTURE IF YOU'D LIKE TO REVIEW IT AND THEN COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING. SO OUR RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX LOCATION, NUMBER ONE, UH, WE PUT TOGETHER AN RFP ASKING FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES TO DO A BUNCH OF PARKING LOT AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS. AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING CONTRACTORS TO RESPOND TO SMALL JOBS. AND SO WE'RE LUMPING EVERYTHING INTO A LARGER JOB AND WE NOW HAVE NINE PROJECTS IN FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. NOT ALL NINE PERTAIN TO YOU AND THE PARKS AND RECS DIVISION, BUT I WANNA SHOW YOU THE ONES THAT DO. SO WE'VE AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO EMC ENGINEERING AS OF THURSDAY NIGHT THAT WENT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND WAS APPROVED. LOCATION NUMBER ONE, UH, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, WAS VALUE ENGINEERED OUT OF THE RECREATION CENTER. IT'S THIS AREA IN YELLOW, IT'S BEHIND THE RECREATION CENTER. SO WHEN YOU WALK IN THE BACK DOOR, UH, WE, WE'VE LOST A LOT OF PARKING BACK THERE, SO THAT'S GONNA HELP TREMENDOUSLY. I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA ALLEVIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, BUT THAT IS PARKING LOT AREA NUMBER ONE. AND, UM, WELL, SOMEHOW THE SLIDES ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. UH, OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, BUT, HMM. IT'S NOT LOADING. I'M SORRY. HEY, JUAN? YES? NONE OF THE PICTURES ARE COMING IN. IS THERE A CHANCE YOU'RE SEEING IT ON YOUR SCREEN? NO. OKAY. YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO REDOWNLOAD IT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M SO SORRY. OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. STOP THERE. LET'S SEE. IT SAYS THEY'RE NOT DOWNLOADING. YEAH. UM, OH YEAH, THEY'RE NOT DOWNLOADING ON ANY OF THOSE. OKAY. OH, I, I WAS HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE IT POPPED BACK IN, BUT YEAH, MAYBE IF YOU COULD. I'M SORRY. LITTLE DELAY. IT'S WORTH IT. I PROMISE IT'S EASIER WHEN THERE'S PICTURES. IS IT THE FILE SIZE? MAYBE THAT'S TOO LARGE. LOOKS LIKE IT'S THERE. THAT'S USUALLY NOT AN ISSUE. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THERE THOUGH. IT SHOULD PULL UP. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SIDE. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE SLIDE IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER. I CAN'T. BETTER, IT'S NOT LOADING FOR YOU EITHER. MM-HMM. WELL, IT'S TAKING A MINUTE. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE PROBLEM. MY BIKE'S BEEN FUNKY ALL DAY WITH THE STORMS. YEAH. SOMETHING HASN'T BEEN, IT'S BEEN A WONKY YEAH, IT'S BEEN A LONG MONDAY'S FLOODED. YEAH. OH DARN THING. REPAIR. I DON'T KNOW. THERE WE GO. YAY. YOU GOT SOME PICTURES? ALL RIGHT. , WHAT'S THE USE OF A POWERPOINT IF YOU DON'T HAVE PICTURES? . WELL, EXACTLY. OKAY. SO, UM, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE REC CENTER BUILDING. I'M GONNA JUST GO DOWN TO A FEW OTHER PAGES HERE. SO IN OUR RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX, AS YOU'RE AWARE, YOU'VE GOT JUJU RIGHT HERE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS LARGE PARKING LOT HERE, THIS LARGE PARKING LOT HERE. THAT'S ALSO PART OF OUR VARIOUS PARKING LOT AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA GET DESIGNED BY EMC ENGINEERING. AGAIN, THE PICTURES ARE NOT LOADING ON THIS. UM, IT'S, IT'S THINKING ABOUT IT. IT'S BLOCKED IT OUT. DARN IT. WELL, IT'S REDACTED. , MAYBE WE JUST GOTTA PUSH THROUGH. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. MAYBE THE FILES. YEAH. HMM. OKAY, WELL IT'S NOT GONNA LOAD FOR US. IT'S NOT GONNA LOAD. SO, OH, THERE , ONE OF THE THIRD PARKING LOTS THAT ARE PART OF OUR RFP IS ON RANDALL STREET HERE. WE ACQUIRED WHAT USED TO BE AN OLD CHURCH PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND SO THAT PARKING LOT WILL ALSO BE ATTACHED, UH, VIA A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE BETWEEN THESE TWO PARKING LOTS. SO WE'LL CHANGE THE FENCING HERE TO ACCOMMODATE LOCKING THIS NEW AREA OF PARKING. AND, UM, IT'S JUST EXPANDING ON OUR RICHARD GRAPE COMPLEX IN, IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THESE SPORTING EVENTS AND, AND OTHER EVENTS. UM, I'M GONNA GO, SO IT'S JUST AT A DESIGN PHASE? THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S AT THE DESIGN PHASE, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS NOT. [01:50:02] THE OTHER ONE BEING WHICH ONE? THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT? NO, THAT, THAT ONE'S BEING PAVED. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THIS ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST IN THE DESIGN STAGE. OKAY. SO RIGHT WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFP AND WE AWARDED IT THURSDAY NIGHT ENGINEERING, WE'LL TAKE ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND START DESIGNING IT AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT OUT FOR A BID FOR CONTRACTORS TO COME AND, AND BID ON IT. AND AFTER WE AWARD TO A CONTRACTOR, IT'LL BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. YES. OKAY. SO NUMBER ONE WAS GYM PARKING LOT. NUMBER TWO WAS, SO RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT A PARKING LOT HERE BEHIND THE REC CENTER RIGHT NOW. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS. THIS ONE WE HAD DESIGNED IN AND THEN VALUE ENGINEERED OUT. SO THIS SHOULD BE A VERY QUICK AND EASY DESIGN FOR OUR NEW, UM, ENGINEER RECORD. ALRIGHT. THAT'S WHY. OKAY. YES. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONFUSION NOW. OKAY. SO WHEN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN GOT VALUE ENGINEERED OUT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO RECREATE THE WHEEL FOR THIS. NOW WE DID ORIGINALLY THINK THAT THIS WAS A WETLANDS DELINEATION AND WE'VE LEARNED NOW THAT IT IS NOT. SO THAT'S ALSO GONNA OPEN UP LIKE ANOTHER 10 SPACES, WHICH WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE BACK. SO THAT'LL HAVE TO GET DESIGNED RIGHT HERE. BUT THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG AND IT IS A PRIORITY, SO, ALRIGHT, WE'RE, WE'RE PHASING IT IN A WAY THAT AS SOON AS THE DESIGN WORK IS DONE ON THESE, WE START PUTTING THOSE OUT FOR BID. SO, UM, YEAH. WELL WITHOUT THE PICTURES, UH, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO, TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE TRAIL PROJECT THAT WE'VE STARTED ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THE CONTRACTORS CAME IN AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIL PROJECT RUNS BACK HERE AND IT GOES AROUND YOUR LAGOON AND YOU HAVE A BRIDGE ABOUT RIGHT HERE. AND THEN IT PROCEEDS DOWN TO THE AUXILIARY FIELD FIELD, WHICH AT THIS TIME THE PICTURES WOULD'VE SHOWED YOU HOW MUDDY AND MESSY IT IS BACK THERE. BUT THEY'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS TODAY. THEY WERE WORKING ON SOME INFILTRATE, INFILTRATION, TRENCHING, AND OF COURSE GOT RAINED OUT. BUT MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE'RE EXPECTED TO HIT OUR COMPLETION DEADLINE. AND OUR GRANT IS NOT IN, SHOULD I SAY RISK ANYMORE? UH, SO YEAH, IF, IF WE HAD THESE PICTURES UPLOADED YOU. WELL, HEY, WE LOOK AT THAT. SOME OF THEM MAYBE ARE COMING IN. LET'S GO TO THAT PAGE AND SEE IF I CAN GET THE, UH, WELL SPOKE TOO SOON. OKAY. THEY WERE ON THE LAST PAGE HERE. YEAH, WELL THERE'S ONE THAT LOADED THAT'S SO STRANGE. THAT ONE OUT OF THE SEVEN, I TALK ABOUT IT IN THE ORDER THAT IT IS AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. MAYBE IT'LL UPLOAD BY THEN. YEAH, WELL AT LEAST YOU SEE SOME OF THE SILT FENCING UP AND THIS IS WHERE THE TRAIL IS GETTING INSTALLED SO IT'S MESSY. UM, YEAH, SORRY. NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED. THERE WERE SOME GREAT PICTURES RIGHT HERE. SO I'VE COVERED THE TRAIL PROJECT. ESSENTIALLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. UM, AND THEN OUR SIDEWALK, OUR VARIOUS SIDEWALK AND, UM, PARKING LOT PROJECT I DIDN'T ACTUALLY COVER ALL THE SIDEWALKS WE'RE PLANNING TO DO, BUT IN THE PICTURES I WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW YOU THE AERIAL VIEW. WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS BEING THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND YOU HAVE THE STANDS ON THIS SIDE IN ORDER TO CREATE ADA COMPLIANCE, WE'RE PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK THAT GOES OUT TO THE PARKING HERE AND THEN ANOTHER SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS TO THE CONCRETE HERE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PAVE THIS AREA FOR THE AMBULANCE BACK IN OR EMERGENCY VEHICLE BACK IN. AND THEN OVER HERE THERE'S A CHUNK OF PAVEMENT THAT'S REALLY MESSED UP. I I, I JUST WANTED TO REPLACE IT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE, UM, WE'RE REPLACING THAT. AND THEN, EXCUSE ME, BETWEEN THE BASKETBALL FIELD, BASKETBALL COURT AND THE DOG PARK, THERE'S A PATCH OF GRASS HERE THAT MAKES FOR AN ADDITIONAL 20 PLUS SPACES OF PARKING. SO WE'RE GOING TO PAVE THAT FOR, FOR PARKING. AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE CONNECTIVITY WITH A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE BASKETBALL COURTS THAT LEAD TO THIS PARKING LOT. SO ALL OF THAT WILL GET KICKED OFF HOPEFULLY AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'LL FIND CONTRACTORS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE BULK OF THAT WORK. UM, WE HAD, LET'S SEE, WAS THAT ALL OF, LET ME JUST COUNT. WE'VE GOT ONE, TWO, I THINK THAT'S ALL OF IT FOR THAT RFP. UM, AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT JUJU, WHICH PHASE ONE IS COMPLETE AND UM, I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN BACK THERE TO SEE THAT. [01:55:01] IT STILL HAS THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCING PHASE TWO OF WHICH WE MET ON MAY 30TH WITH ALL OF OUR DESIGN TEAM. SO WE HAVE OUR LEAD ENGINEER OF RECORD, WHICH IS ALLIANCE CON CONSULTING. WE'VE GOT WHITMER JONES KEEFER, WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. UH, THERE'S A PAVILION DESIGNER WHO'S AN ARCHITECT THAT, UM, PARKER GROUP, PARKER DESIGN GROUP. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CIVIL ENGINEER THAT WE BROUGHT ON BOARD FOR THE GRINDER PUMP STATION THAT SITS BEHIND THAT AREA BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S BEEN A CAPACITY ISSUE WITH THAT. AND SO WE'VE ASKED THAT THEY REVISE THEIR DRAWINGS SINCE SOME OF THIS WAS NOT COORDINATED PROPERLY WITH THAT GRINDR PUMP PROJECT. AND WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE DRAWINGS TO COME BACK WITH THE REVISIONS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO BID. SO OUR MEETING WAS MAY 30TH. I'VE BEEN CHECKING IN REGULARLY AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A LITTLE BIT OF COORDINATION, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN A FEW MORE WEEKS WE'LL BE PUTTING THAT OUT TO BID THE MONEY EXPIRES IN THE FALL OF 2023. SO DOES THAT MEAN IT HAS TO BE GRANTED THE BE GRANTED OR IT HAS TO, THE WORK HAS TO BE, HAVE TO BE DONE. HOW DOES THAT WORK? DONE WOULD PROBABLY BETTER ANSWER. WHEN DOES THAT EXPIRE? THE, THE JUJU? SORRY, I WAS SO . SO FOR JEN, SO FOR THE JUJU, YOU GOT THE CANDY. JEN'S EATING A A PEANUT BUTTER CUP. WHY DON'T WE HAVE HER ANSWER? I WAS TRYING TO REPLY AN EMAIL. UM, SO THE, UH, GRANT FOR, UM, THE TRAIL, UM, THAT WE HAVE IS GONNA EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE YEAR SO THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WELL ON TRACK, WE'RE COVERED AS FAR AS THE JUJU HUDSON PARK. UM, I THINK THERE WAS $75,000 THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. UM, IF WE DON'T GET IT DONE IN TIME, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. UM, WE HAVE THAT FUNDING IN OUR GENERAL FUND. THE REASON WHY WE WERE GOING AFTER THAT GRANT WAS SO THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE TOUCH ON THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AS DESIGNED AND AS DESIGNED A YEAR AGO VERSUS TODAY'S PRICING. UNFORTUNATELY, VERY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. UH, RECENTLY I WAS TOLD THAT THEY BUILT THIS ELSEWHERE FOR $450,000 AS DESIGNED. THAT IS NOT IN OUR BUDGET. AND SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS REDESIGN PROCESS TO VALUE ENGINEER THIS, WHICH AT THIS TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, IF IT'S JUST GONNA REDUCE IN SIZE OR IF WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE THE BATHROOMS. BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO VALUE ENGINEERING, UM, NOT THE BEST NEWS, I'M SORRY, BUT THINGS ARE TURNING AROUND. I'M SEEING MATERIAL COSTS COME DOWN OR AT LEAST CORRECT A LITTLE BIT. UH, BUT LABOR IS STILL THE BIGGEST PART OF IT. THAT'S PART OF THE PLAYGROUND IS THAT COULD BE LIKE RIGHT OFF OF IT. SO THIS SHELTER PAVILION, YOU'LL SEE IN THE GRAY ZONE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS IS YOUR AERIAL VIEW WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN, HERE'S THE BALL FIELDS. WE HAVE THIS PORTION OF IT DONE WITH THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. SO RIGHT NEXT TO IT WOULD BE WHERE THIS PAVILION SITS THAT GRAY ROOF. AND THEN ALL OF THIS GETS INSTALLED, WHICH IS AT ONE TIME IT WAS A SPLASH PAD, BUT IT'S NO LONGER A SPLASH PAD. IT'S REALLY JUST GRASS, UM, SOMEWHERE FOR THE KIDS TO RUN AROUND THAT THEY'RE STILL CONTAINED, BUT GET THE WIGGLES OUT. UM, THAT'S THE JUJU HUDSON PLAYGROUND. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR YOU. SO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. THE ROAD TO GET TO THAT AUXILIARY FIELD IN THE BACK, WHICH IS WHAT LAST TALK WAS POSSIBLY TURF. IS THERE GONNA BE, YOU HAVE TO NOW GO TO THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO OVER THERE OR? GREAT QUESTION. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REDESIGN. AND LET'S LOOK AT THIS. UM, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX AND YOU COME DOWN HERE, THE WAY THAT THIS LOOKS, THEY TOOK AWAY THAT ACCESS ROAD AND WE PUT IT BACK IN. UM, THIS WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME. THIS, THIS, UH, ROUNDABOUT WILL BE REDESIGNED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS HANDICAPPED, UH, PARKING. HOWEVER WE WANT THAT ROAD BECAUSE IT IS A BAD DESIGN TO ELIMINATE IT. AND THEN YOU ONLY HAVE ACCESS THROUGH HERE, ESPECIALLY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, OF WHICH OUR FIRE MARSHAL LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID, THAT'S A REALLY TIGHT TURN UP THERE. I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE AWAY SPACING IN ORDER TO GET THE RADIUS THAT HE NEEDS. AND SO THE, THE BETTER OPTION IS TO JUST ELIMINATE SOME OF THIS GREEN SPACE AND KEEP THE ROAD, WHICH, YEAH. SO, UM, THE PAVING PROJECT, YOU WERE ASKING IF, IF THIS ROAD, THAT, THAT WOULD GET PAVED. IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? NO, I WAS JUST, I DID NOT SEE THAT ROAD BEING CONTINUED. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YEAH. AND MY, MY DESIGN DOCUMENTS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR, WHEN I GET THOSE UPDATES, I'LL BE SURE AND ADD THAT IN THE NEXT POWERPOINT TO SHOW YOU THE BEFORE AND AFTER. [02:00:01] WHY WE, WE REDESIGNED IT. YEP. SO THAT ACCESS ROAD WILL BE PAVED EVENTUALLY. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WE'VE BEEN, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE BOUGHT THE CHURCH AND ALL. NO SIR. YEAH, JUST UP TO THE, JUST THE PARKING LOT THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST. MM-HMM. . SO THEY SUBDIVIDED THE LOT. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE. THE CHURCH IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE. IT WAS ONE BIG RECTANGULAR SPACE AND THEY CUT THE LOT IN HALF. AND THIS PARCEL GOT SOLD OFF TO A PRIVATE, UM, COMPANY. IT'S GREENERY GOODS, SOMETHING THEY, THEY DO HERBS. UH, AND THEN THIS SECTION HERE WHERE IT'S MOSTLY JUST GRASS IS WHAT THE CITY PURCHASED. AND WE PURCHASED THAT BACK IN. WELL, I KNOW THAT THEY WENT INTO NEGOTIATIONS IN MARCH, SO IT CLOSED SOMEWHERE IN APRIL, MAY. AND HOW MANY MORE SPACES OVER THERE? A LOT. IT'S, IT'S A BIG AREA. FOUR ACRES. IT'S A LOT. MM-HMM. . YEAH. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT BIG. IT'S A BIG, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SIZABLE. I MEAN, LOOKING AT, IT'S THAT AREA WE USE FOR PARKING NOW, THAT OVERFLOW AREA. IT IS. YEAH. PEOPLE ARE JUST PARKING IN THE GRASS. BUT YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. 'CAUSE IT'S WHERE EVERYBODY PARKS NOW. IT HELPED A LOT DURING THE FOURTH ON MAY OR FOURTH OFF MAIN. YEAH. I FELT LIKE RANDALL STREET AT LEAST DIDN'T HAVE ANY OVERFLOW PARKING BLOCKING THE DRIVEWAY LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR. SO YEAH, THAT WAS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. SORRY. NEXT TIME I'LL TEST THIS POWERPOINT BEFORE I COME IN. MAKE SURE IT WORKS WITH THE PHOTOS. YOU SAW SOME OF THEM AT LEAST . I PROMISE IT WORKED. IT DID. I I YOU'RE GONNA SEND IT TO US, RIGHT? WE CAN DO THAT, CHERYL? YEAH. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JENNY. SURE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS? OKAY. PERFECT. UM, ANY OLD BUSINESS? NO SIR. I FEEL LIKE THAT SUMMED UP A BUNCH OF OUR OLD BUSINESS. THAT WAS GOOD. UM, PRESENTATION. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JUNE 12TH. UH, ANY DISCUSSION FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING? IF NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TO APPROVE. ANY SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. UH, NEW BUSINESS. THERE IS NO NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME. ALL RIGHT. AND DIRECTOR REPORT. OKAY, THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW. THERE'S SO MUCH, UH, THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND EVEN MORE COMING IN THE PIPELINE. UM, SO IF YOU THINK WE'RE BUSY NOW, STRAP IN. UM, WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK UPDATE ON THE SHELTER DOWN AT MILLSTONE. IT IS DONE COMPLETED PAST INSPECTION. UM, EVERYTHING IS UP TODAY. WE RECEIVED THE ADA, UH, BENCH. UM, SO THERE'LL BE PUTTING THAT IN AS SOON AS WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FREE TIME. BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND LOOK. UH, THAT WAS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. UM, WE RECEIVED 40, $40,000 FROM PARD GRANT AND THEN THE CITY, UM, CHOMPED IN, UH, AN EXTRA 20. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. IT'S A REALLY NICE PLACE TO, TO GO DOWN AND HAVE LUNCH, UM, AND JUST CHILL, UH, TO WATCH THE, UM, THE WATER. IT'S VERY PEACEFUL. UM, SO THAT IS DONE, SO WE CAN CHECK THAT OFF OUR LIST. UM, DIDN'T THINK WE'D EVER GET IT ROLLING, BUT WE DID. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PRETTY BIG EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING THIS WEDNESDAY, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HELP WITH FILL THE BUS. UM, MY GOODNESS. UM, WE HAVE GOT, I THINK, UH, 20 OR 19 OR 20 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN SUN CITY. WE ALSO HAVE, UM, HILTON HEAD LAKES THAT PARTICIPATES. WE ALSO HAVE LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE. UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF CRAZY. WE HAVE TWO BUSES THIS YEAR. UM, SO IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT IT'S GOTTEN SO BIG THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE, UM, ALL THE OPERATIONS OVER TO THE REC CENTER. SO WE'LL BE LITERALLY ONE HALF OF THE GYM, UM, PUBLIC WORKS. UH, WE CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, BUT WE'VE OUTGROWN THE SPACE. SO PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE WITH US, UM, TO HELP PICK UP ALL OF THAT ON WEDNESDAY. AND FOR ANYONE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, UM, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHOW UP AT THE REC CENTER, UM, AT ABOUT 12 O'CLOCK. AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL HANDLE THE SORT AND ALL OF THE SUPPLIES ARE DONATED. WE SORT EVERYTHING OUT. AND THEN, UM, FROM THERE, WHAT WE DO IS WE BAG EVERYTHING UP, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY WE LITERALLY TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOLS. SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF AND CHANGE FOR NEXT YEAR ON HOW WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING. BUT, UM, ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, MAYOR WILLIAMS' WIFE, MS, UH, BETH WILLIAMS, WHO REALLY ORGANIZES ALL THIS STUFF. UM, WE, WE ARE KIND OF JUST THE, THE HELP ON THE OTHER END. UM, SO IT HAS DONE, UH, AN AMAZING, AMAZING THING OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE. AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, I MEAN, THIS WAS, I WANNA SAY BACK WHEN JOE GALEY MAYBE WAS HERE, UM, THAT THEY STARTED. AND THEN, UM, COUNCILMAN ZO HAD [02:05:01] HELPED AS WELL. AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE CONTINUED. SO IT IS HUGE AND IT IS HAPPENING. I DON'T KNOW HOW, UM, IT GOT TO BE JULY, BUT WE BLINKED AND WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS. SO, UM, BUT THAT IS HAPPENING, UH, THIS WEDNESDAY. UM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL IS OUR BIG RIG DAY. UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DOING THAT, UH, VERY SOON, UH, GETTING SOME BIG RIGS OUT FOR ALL THE KIDS. AND, UM, IT'S REALLY FUN, UNIQUE. LAST YEAR WE HAD IT, UM, HAD A GOOD PARTICIPATION, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND, UH, WE'RE ALSO OPENING UP THE FOOD VENDORS RIGHT NOW FOR FESTIVAL ON MAINE. UM, THERE'S, UM, A FEW SLOTS THAT ARE ALREADY STARTING TO SELL. IT'S, IT'S CRAZY. UM, LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY SOLD OUT. UM, SO, UH, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS A FOOD TRUCK THAT WANTS TO GET IN, WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET IN NOW, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT WAITING AT THE END TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU CAN GET IN. UM, WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR AN OPEN POSITION, UH, FOR OUR PART-TIME GUEST SPECIALIST. SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT A FEW, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN. SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME INTERVIEWS ON THAT SHORTLY. AND WE HAVE HIRED OUR PART-TIME ATHLETIC ASSISTANT, SO WE WILL HAVE THEM AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEET HIM AND THEY WILL BE DOWN AT THE PARK. GARY WILL BE HAPPY TO KNOW IN THE EVENINGS, UM, TO HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE ANY PROBLEMS OR ISSUES. THAT'S REALLY WHAT HE'S THERE FOR, IS TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EVERYONE IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. AND AT THE PARK IS, YOU KNOW, A SAFE, SECURE PLACE, NOT ONLY FOR OUR USERS, UH, MOU USERS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC, UM, AT LARGE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, ALSO TOO, WE HAD A, I DON'T KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A, AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED, JUST A, JUST A SMALL ONE. UH, THE FOURTH OFF MAINE WAS A LOT OF FUN. UM, WE HAD ALMOST 1200 PEOPLE, UM, AND WE KIND OF CHANGED SOME OF THE DYNAMICS OF HOW WE DID EVERYTHING. SO IT WAS REALLY NEAT. UM, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE THAT SHOWED HAD A FUN TIME. WE CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR. UM, SO, UM, LOTS AND LOTS OF FUN BUS. UM, OPEN VOLLEYBALL IS STILL HAPPENING. UH, WE'VE ALSO STARTED A PICKLEBALL LEAGUE, SO ANYONE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO PLAY PICKLEBALL, COME CHECK IT OUT. UM, WE ALSO HAVE PICKLEBALL MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, AND FRIDAYS IN THE MORNING. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, MIXED PICKLEBALL LEAGUE IS ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS. UM, SO THAT IS STARTING SOON. UM, JULY 18TH, SO THAT'S NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE. SO LOTS OF REALLY COOL STUFF GOING ON. UM, AND THEN, LET ME THINK. THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING, UM, THAT WE WERE DOING. OH, UM, WE MET WITH, UH, THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. UM, THEY DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, HISTORICAL PLACARDS FOR THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. UM, AND I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, PERRYSBURG IS, UM, VERY CLOSE TO ONE OF THE SITES, UM, OF THE BATTLES THAT INCURRED THERE. SO, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY AND GET SOME, UM, TRAILHEAD SIGNAGE DOWN AT MILLSTONE. UM, VERY HISTORICAL. IT'S MUCH LIKE YOU WOULD SEE ON A TRAIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, AT ZERO COST TO THE CITY, AND IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE, UM, FOR THAT AREA DOWN THERE. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. AND THEN THE LAST BIG THING, WHICH UM, WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, IS THE FLAP GRANT. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO LOOK AT, UM, BUILDING A, A VERY NICE TRAIL ALL THE WAY FROM MILLSTONE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE. WOW. UM, THAT IS ALMOST NOT QUITE 16, 17 MILES. UM, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE COSTS PER MILE FOR A TRAIL, HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS. UH, BUT A LOT OF FOLKS ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH OUR TRAILS? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE PLAN? OBVIOUSLY OPENING UP THE FIRST TRAIL BACK HERE, UM, IT WAS THE SMALLEST TRAIL IN THE PLAN AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DA FEES, UM, THAT HELPED PAY FOR THAT. UM, SO ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND THE NEW HOUSES THAT COME IN, THAT'S WHAT'S HELPING TO PAY FOR THAT. UM, THOSE FEES DON'T COME IN ALL THE TIME, . SO IT'S NICE TO GET 'EM. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDING FOR IT. SO, UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY DOING THAT. UM, BUT THE FLAP GRANT, UM, WE WILL PROBABLY, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THE, THE EXPLORER, UH, EXPLORATION GOES AS FAR AS TO THE GRANT FUNDING, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3.5 TO 4 MILLION THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR. AND OF COURSE, THIS, THIS IS NOT IN THE ALTA PLAN RIGHT NOW, SO OF COURSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DESIGN, ALL THAT INFORMATION WILL COME BACK. UM, MUCH LIKE THE, THE, UM, RICHARD GRAY PLAN CAME TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL FIRST BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. THE DEADLINE FOR THAT GRANT IS, UM, I BELIEVE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO WE'RE WORKING VERY, UH, QUICKLY ON THAT. UH, WE HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS, UH, WITH THEM TO GO OVER EVERYTHING. UH, BUT IF WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE [02:10:01] AND PASSED, IT IS ZERO COST TO THE CITY. UM, AND THE CITY WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP. THIS IS ALL THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDS. UM, AND IT WILL BE AN AMAZING, AMAZING, HUGE TRAIL. UM, AND IT WILL BRING IN A TON OF FO ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE THE, THE ROUTE IN WHICH IT GOES, THERE'S LOTS OF SWEEPING VIEWS OF THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE, UM, THE RIVER, DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS. SO YOU CAN ALMOST IMAGINE HEADING TO, UH, PARTS OF THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE ON A BIKE. 'CAUSE THERE IS A BIKE TRAIL THAT'S THERE ALREADY. UM, AND BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL THAT WIRE ON THE BIKE. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO STILL LOOKING AT, UH, WORKING WITH THE EAST COAST GREENWAY ON A PORTION OF THE DIFFERENT TRACT, UH, AS WELL. UH, SO WE'RE GETTING SOME, UH, INFORMATION FROM DOT THERE. SO THOSE ARE A LOT OF BIG THINGS COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE. UM, A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS AT WORK. UM, SO A LOT OF PREPARATION AND I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED FOR IT. AND, UM, THE LAST THING THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME EXPLORATORY WORK ON IS OUR AUXILIARY. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE, UM, ABILITY TO GO AFTER SOME UNDISCOVERED FUNDS FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. IT'S A GRANT FOR ABOUT $200,000. UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE AROUND WHEN THE TURF FIELD WAS BUILT BACK HERE, IT WAS NOT QUITE A MILLION DOLLARS. UM, THIS TURF FIELD WON'T BE AS BIG. THIS IS, UM, RIGHT AROUND A 70 TO 80 FOOT TURF FIELD, UM, WHICH IS TYPICALLY USED FOR SEVEN SIDE, BUT WE'RE PLAYING SOCCER. SO, UM, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS. IT'S JUST SMALLER NUMBERS OF SOCCER AND THERE'S TOURNAMENTS ALL OVER THE US. UM, SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY AND BRING MORE AND MORE OF THAT AS WELL AS, UM, LOOKING AT DOING SOME FLAG FOOTBALL AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. UH, FOR ANYONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY PAYING ATTENTION OUT THERE. UM, OUR RICHARD GRAY, UH, COMPLEX HAS REALLY KIND OF STARTED TO DEVELOP INTO A SPORTS TOURISM AREA, UM, ALONG WITH A REC CENTER. SO, UM, THAT GRANT IS DUE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO TIMING IS OF ESSENCE. UH, WE SHOULD HAVE OUR EXPLORATIONS DONE BY WEDNESDAY. AND AFTER THAT IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, ME AND NEIL WORKING TOGETHER TO GET ALL THE LITERATURE TOGETHER AND MAKING IT A GOOD SOLID PACKAGE. AND FINGERS CROSSED, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT. SO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR THE FLAP GRANT AND THE, AND THE STATE GRANT? UM, I WOULD SAY THE FLAP GRANT, UM, PROBABLY, UM, A 90 TO 95% PROBABILITY. COOL. UM, THE UNDISCOVERED, IT'S A 50 50, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. SO IT'S MORE COMPETITIVE? YES, VERY MUCH SO. YEAH. THE UNDISCOVERED FUNDS ARE VERY, UM, COMPETITIVE. MUCH LIKE THE TRAIL GRANTS ARE, UH, THE FLAP GRANT IS FEDERAL. UM, SO IT'S, YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PLAN IN PLACE AND THIS, AND WE HAVE AN AWESOME PARTNER. A LOT OF PLACES AREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER. UM, SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO ALL THAT AND, UM, YEAH. THEY WANT YOU READY TO GO? YES. WE'VE ALREADY GOT LETTERS OF SUPPORT. SO WE, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY AHEAD OF THE GAME. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN STILL GET ALL THE DESIGN PHASE, ALL THAT STUFF DONE. 'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST A SMALL MILE OF RIGHT, YOU KNOW, TRAIL YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON ALMOST 20 MILE TRAIL. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S STILL THE CONNECTIVITY PIECE THAT WE WANNA DO, NOT JUST WITH THAT TRAIL, BUT WE ALSO WANNA BE ABLE TO CONNECT OUR COMMUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, BEAUFORT TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM BEAUFORT ALL THE WAY UP TO HILTON HEAD. SO THERE'S A WHOLE BIG MIX THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND WE HAVE OUR GUESTS IN THE, IN THE, UM, AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW WHO ARE BIG, UH, COMPONENTS OF THAT. UM, SO TRAILS ARE HUGE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST THE WAVE CONNECTIVITY IN ITSELF IS, IS HUGE WAVE THAT'S COMING. WHEN YOU TAKE A VERY SMALL TOWN LIKE HARDY AND YOU START TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO CONNECT. UM, WHETHER IT'S BIKE PATHS OR UM, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN PATHS GOTTA BE ABLE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. SO A LOT OF GROWTH IS COMING. SO NOTHING THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW. UM, BUT IT IS VERY EXCITING TO, UM, BE ABLE TO, I HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT. . YES. IT'S VERY EXCITING. SO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF. . ALRIGHT, PERFECT. UM, ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP BY MEMBERS? TERRY? GOOD, KEVIN? TAMMY? UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, UM, I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START MEETINGS WITH THAT. UM, YES. SO, UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN MY LIST, BUT IT'S NOT ON HERE. UM, SO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, UH, WE ARE A LITTLE BEHIND ON IT. UM, WE ARE GOING TO SEND AN EMAIL OUT AS SOON AS FILL THE BUS IS DONE. UM, WE WILL START MEETING ON THAT TO SEE WHO FROM LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE AGAIN. UM, AND WE'LL GET ROLLING ON THAT PROBABLY HERE, UM, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. OKAY. AND HOW OFTEN DOES IT MEET? UM, OR ANYBODY HAS TO? PROBABLY ONCE A MONTH. OKAY. UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A THEME LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR, AND THE ROUTE HAS MORE OR LESS BEEN ESTABLISHED. UM, ALL THE HARD [02:15:01] WORK IS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN ALL THAT STUFF APPROVED. THAT STUFF'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO THIS YEAR, UM, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED IS MORE HANDS ON DECK TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE FOLKS TO COME IN. UM, THE DATE WE HAVE IS DECEMBER THE FIRST FOR THE TREE LIGHTING, WHICH IS FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEN SATURDAY, UM, IT'S THE SAME DAY AS THE BLUFFTON PARADE. BLUFFTON PARADE IS IN THE MORNING. UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET OURS IN THE AFTERNOON. SO FOLKS COMING FROM THAT PARADE WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO US. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW ALL OF THAT KIND OF MESHES TOGETHER THIS YEAR. UM, SO THAT'S THE PLAN. YES. DO THE AFTER PARTY, THE CHRISTMAS MM-HMM. ? YES. YEAH. WITH SNOW AND THE ICE SKATING AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF. YES. YEAH. WE JUST WON'T HAVE IT AS LONG. UM, MOST OF THE, I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT 6, 6 15. I THINK MOST PEOPLE STARTED TO KIND OF DISSIPATE THE CROWD, SO, UM, BUT YES, IT IS COMING TAM. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE STILL ON TRACK FOR THAT. YES. HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT IS JULY . YEAH. YEAH. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CHRISTMAS PLANNING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS ? WAS I TALKING ABOUT 4TH OF JULY? WELL, CRACKER BARREL HAS ITS HALLOWEEN STUFF OUT, SO I KNOW. , YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO, I'M GOOD. UM, WE HAD MENTIONED A WHILE AGO THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH CONSTANT CONTACT SENDING OUT THE NEWSLETTERS. IS THAT ? YEAH, IT'S WORKING. HAVE YOU HAVE, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY REGISTERED FOR CONSTANT CONTACT? I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE ACTUAL, OKAY, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH, YOU HAVE. SO, UH, WE CAN SEND A LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY AGAIN, BUT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REGISTER FOR IT AND IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY SEND IT TO YOU. UM, YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK YOUR SPAM FILE. THAT'S WHERE MINE COMES. OKAY. SO, BUT YES, IT IS WORKING. UH, WE CHECKED ON THAT. I THOUGHT I HAD SENT AN UPDATE, BUT I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DIDN'T AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT ONE. YEAH. BUT IT IS WORKING. UM, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SEND YOU A LINK TO IT. THANK YOU. AND THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST KIND OF SIGN UP FOR IT. AND THEN, UM, IF YOU DON'T GET IT WITHIN THAT NEXT MONTH, LET ME KNOW. UM, BUT YOU SHOULD, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I KNOW OF IS, IS WORKING AND GOOD TO GO. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DO NOT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. UM, SO WE'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. VERY GOOD. UH, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MONDAY, AUGUST 14TH. ALRIGHT. HERE AT 5:30 PM IN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU. SAY THE SEED. COME ON AND ON ME, HARRIET. COME ON. AND SO, WELCOME EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS PEACH MORRISON. WE ARE HERE AT THE LOW COUNTRY TOURISM COMMISSION'S VISITOR CENTER IN Y EMBASSY, SOUTH CAROLINA. AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME WESLEY WALKER, WHO IS THE ARTIST OF THIS MAGNIFICENT SCOPE BEHIND US. THIS SPECIFIC PIECE WAS A, A COMMISSION REQUEST. UM, AND SO IT WAS REALLY JUST A, A REQUEST AND THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE FREEDOM AND THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE HARRIET'S LEGACY. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THIS PIECE STARTED. UM, AND, AND THE TRAVELING OF THIS PIECE WAS JUST A, A BYPRODUCT OF, UM, ONCE, ONCE WE HAD RELEASED IMAGES REALLY JUST ONLINE, UM, IT JUST LIKE WENT VIRAL. PEOPLE JUST REALLY CONNECTED WITH THIS SCULPTURE, [02:20:24] HARRIETT TUBMAN TO ME AS A CHILD. SO I GREW UP, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE ATLANTA AREA IN GEORGIA. UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS A VERY GLOSSED OVER PIECE OF HISTORY FROM MY, UM, CHILDHOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE. SO I KNEW WHO SHE WAS. I KNEW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ABOUT THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD. AND, UM, I MEAN, REALLY THAT WAS IT. SO, UM, IT WAS REALLY A DEEP DIVE FOR ME. LIKE I DON'T PRESUME TO, UM, TO KNOW ANYTHING GOING INTO ANY COMMISSION. SO, UM, UH, IT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF JUST DEEP RESEARCH, UM, NOT JUST READING, UM, REALLY LOOKING FOR FIRST PERSON ACCOUNTS OF INTERACTING WITH HER. LIKE WILLIAM STILL'S JOURNALS OUT OF PHILADELPHIA TALKS ABOUT, UM, COMING ACROSS HER IN HIS JOURNALS. UM, I MEAN, SHE WAS AMAZING. THERE WERE SO MANY, SO MANY AMAZING MOMENTS IN HER LIFE AND JUST AMAZING STORIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SHE HAD A LOOSE TOOTH. AND SO SHE KNOCKED IT OUT 'CAUSE IT WAS ANNOYING HER. AND, UM, AND SHE, SHE ALWAYS WANTED TO WEAR A DRESS, EVEN IF THEY WERE IMPRACTICAL. AND THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT HER, I THINK IT WAS DOWN HERE. AND SHE WAS LIKE, RUNNING ON THE DOCK AND STEPPED ON IT AND FELL AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN JUST GOT UP AND WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, I LIKE THOSE LITTLE MOMENTS TO LIKE, HUMANIZE HER. BUT THEN THERE'S JUST THIS, THIS INCREDIBLE SCOPE OF THE ADVERSITY SHE FACED EVEN, EVEN AFTER SHE CAME DOWN HERE AND HAD ESCAPED. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST LIKE A LIFETIME OF ADVERSITY THAT, UM, THAT SHE BUCKED UP AND OVERCAME EVERY TIME. AND THAT TO ME IS JUST INCREDIBLY INSPIRING. HART BEING BACK IN THIS AREA. UH, AND EVEN THE SAW AMAZING GRACE DEALING WITH THE WATERS. AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THE CAPTAIN, UH, WAS CARRYING HIS HUMAN CARGO, IF YOU COULD JUST IMAGINE A BOTTOM SINK TO THE GROUND, THAT'S 18 INCHES AND THAT'S ALL THE SPACE WE WOULD'VE HAD, AND WE WOULD'VE BEEN CHAINED AND EVERYBODY NEXT TO US. AND THEN 18 INCHES ABOVE THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ROW OF HUMAN CARGO. AND 18 INCHES ABOVE THAT, EVERY ODOR THAT THE BODY PRODUCES IS EVIDENT IN THE OF THE SLAVE. THESE WERE AFRICAN KINGS AND QUEENS AND ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, UH, PRESIDENTS IN UNITED STATES. ALL ANCESTORS. I'M A BIG LOVER OF HISTORY AND AS MUCH HISTORY THAT I'VE, UM, READ. I HADN'T READ A LOT ABOUT HARRIET TUBMAN. EVERYBODY KNOWS HER IN A VERY SUPERFICIAL WAY. BUT BY COMING OUT AND READING HER STORY AND SEEING HOW THE SCULPTOR RELATED HER EXPERIENCES AND HER FEATS OF DARING AND COURAGE INTO, UH, THE, THE SCULPTURE REALLY CAPTURED IT WHEN YOU SEE AND AND SEE HOW IT'S EXPLAINED. SO IT IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE BY COMING TO THESE THINGS, YOU HEAR MORE IN DEPTH OF THE LIFE STORY OF SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY MADE AN IMPACT ON, ON THE HISTORY OF, OF THE SOUTH AND, AND HISTORY OF SLAVERY. IT JUST BECAME LIKE, LIKE, HOW DO WE WANT TO TELL HER STORY AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT? UM, AND, AND IT'S ALSO LIKE, LIKE WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, UH, RAIDS BACK INTO MARYLAND, SHE WAS ACTUALLY MUCH YOUNGER THAN SHE'S DEPICTED IN THIS, UH, REPRESENTATION. UM, WHILE I WAS WORKING ON IT, THEY DISCOVERED THAT PHOTO OF HER WHERE SHE'S SITTING VERY PROPER IN THE DRESS, UM, THAT THAT WAS FOUND AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS COMMISSION. SO THAT, UM, REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE ANATOMY OF HER FACE. UM, BUT FOR THIS, IT WAS, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT HER WHOLE LIFE. SO LIKE THE, UH, THE SHOES OR, OR MILITARY SHOES, UM, TO SPEAK OF HER TIME HERE. UM, THE JACKET IS ACTUALLY A MILITARY COAT THAT WE BORROWED FROM, UH, A HISTORY MUSEUM IN NORTH CAROLINA. UM, SO, SO IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS FOCUSED ON THE SPECIFIC STORY THAT THE PLAQUES TELL, BUT IT WAS ALSO ABOUT HER ENTIRE LIFE OF ACHIEVEMENT. SO, UM, [02:25:01] THERE'S A BLEND OF AGES ON HER. UM, THE CHILD ADDS A LOT OF, UM, KIND OF EMOTIONAL CONNECTION. I THINK THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SPEAKS OF HOPE AND TRAGEDY AND, UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE AN EXPLORATION TO DECIDE WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT POSITION, WHAT ARE THEY DOING, YOU KNOW, EACH HAND HAS MEANING. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A PIECE ON IT THAT ISN'T INTENTIONAL. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN, THAT WE LEARN FROM THE PAST, WE CAN LEARN SO MUCH ABOUT THE PAST AND IT HELPS US MAKE OUR DECISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE. AND SO, BEING ON MR. HARRIET, TELL ME OUR HERO AND THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH BLACK PANTHER AND WAKANDA. AND YOU SAW THE, THE GENERAL, THAT'S THE GENERAL REAL WITH YOU. PUT THE REAL WAKANDA AT UTOPIA RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF CONFEDERATE COUNTRY HERE. THIS PLACE CALLED BEAUFORT BECOMES THE FIRST PLACE THAT WE ARE FREED IN AND MASSES ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 1861. HARRIET TUBMAN SAY THE SEED. COME ON. AND WE WERE THERE HERE EARLIER. UM, WE HAVE ALREADY OPENED UP THIS MEETING AT THREE O'CLOCK. SO THE, UM, CALL TO ORDER THE, UH, PLEDGE AND, AND OUR INVOCATION ARE ALREADY DONE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION? PLEASE TAKE MOTION. WE RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY, WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION. WELCOME EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON. UM, NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY. SO WE'RE GONNA GO RIGHT INTO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. INTRODUCTION OF FIREFIGHTERS. JESSICA MARTIN. ANDREW, I'M GONNA MAKE A MISTAKE HERE. . SENAL. PRETTY CLOSE. PRETTY CLOSE. PRETTY CLOSE. OKAY. JONATHAN CHURCH AND NICHOLAS CANTONE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL, WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH, UH, WELL YOU CAN'T PRONOUNCE . COME ON UP, ANDREW. YEAH, LET'S GET THE TOUGH ONE OVER. WITHAL. UH, HE'S FROM, UH, LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. UH, HE DID TWO YEARS AT ANCHORAGE MIDDLETON, AND, UH, TWO YEARS AS A FIREFIGHTER, AND HE COMES TO JOIN US. IT'S YOUR TURN. WELL, HOW ARE YOU? I THINK WELCOME. IS THAT TURNED ON? HELLO? UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, UH, SERVE THE COMMUNITY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. UH, I'M EXCITED TO BRING THINGS TO THE TABLE. UM, I AM ONLY ABOUT TWO YEARS INTO THE FIRE SERVICE AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO KEEP LEARNING THE CRAFT AND I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELCOME. UH, COULD YOU JUST ONE QUESTION? YES SIR. COULD YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME? OPAL. OPAL? YES, SIR. I WILL FORGET THAT BEFORE YOU LEAVE THIS ROOM, . BUT, UH, I, I WILL TRY, UH, COUNSEL. ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME. THANK YOU. WELCOME. AND WE WISH YOU, UH, A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL CAREER WITH US. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SECOND Q UH, NEXT IS, UH, NICHOLAS CATONE. UH, HE IS FROM BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS. AND LAST HE WAS IN THE, UH, ARMY RANGER BATTALION, FIRST RANGER BATTALION FOR FOUR YEARS. HE HAD DID TWO DEPLOYMENTS WITH THE RANGERS. SO HE'S COMING TO US, HE'LL BE GOING TO THE ACADEMY NEXT MONTH. TERRIFIC. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. HAPPY TO START MY FIREFIGHTER CAREER HERE IN HARDY. I'M READY TO BRING EVERYTHING I HAVE AN EXPERIENCE FROM MILITARY TO HERE AND PUT THAT INTO THE SYSTEM HERE. LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TRY MY BEST. [02:30:01] YOU'LL DO SPECTACULARLY. AND, AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MILITARY SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. COUNSEL, ANYONE, UM, DO ANY OF THESE NEW GENTLEMEN PLAY SOFTBALL? , WELCOME. THEY'RE YOUNG ENOUGH AT JAMES'. FIRST YEAR OLD DUTY . I DON'T KNOW. IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY YOUNG GROUP HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND THE LAST TWO ARE, ARE, ARE TWO PARAMEDICS THAT WE DID HIRE THAT ARE GONNA GO ON THE AMBULANCE. UH, MR. JONATHAN CHURCH, ANOTHER MASSACHUSETTS NATIVE. UH, BUT HE CAME TO US FROM FLORIDA WHERE HE WAS A PARAMEDIC IN THE IC UNIT. UM, SO HE IS BEEN, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN A FIREMAN. I'M SORRY. BUT, UH, HE'S COME TO US. HE'S GONNA BE ONE OF OUR FIRST, UH, AMBULANCE PARAMEDIC. HELLO EVERYONE. HOW YOU DOING? WELCOME. UH, SO I'VE BEEN, I'M THIRD GENERATION FIREFIGHTER AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE FIRE SERVICE EVER SINCE I STARTED. UM, I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF EVERYTHING THAT THE VILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF PARKVILLE IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND BEYOND. AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO FORGING A CAREER IN THE SERVICE OF THIS COMMUNITY. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELCOME COUNSEL. AND OUR LAST IS, UH, JESSICA MARTIN. AND SHE WAS LAST AT, I ALWAYS SAY SOUTH SIDE. I KNOW IT CHANGED ITS NAME. IT'S NOW CHATHAM EMS AND FIRE. FIRE AND EMS, UH, SHE IS A PARAMEDIC AND SHE'LL BE ONE OF OUR OTHER, UH, FIRST LINE PARAMEDICS ON THE AMBULANCE IS WHEN WE GET STARTED NEXT MONTH. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. UM, I ONLY KNOW EMS I'VE ONLY KNOWN EMS FOR FIVE YEARS AND I WANTED TO GROW AND LEARN AS A PROVIDER. AND I THOUGHT, WHAT BETTER WAY TO DO THAT THAN TO OPEN MYSELF UP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND LEARN FROM, FROM THESE GUYS HERE WHO CAN TEACH ME A LOT AND PROGRESS. EVENTUALLY I'D LIKE TO TEACH THE CRAFT AND I DON'T THINK I'LL BE MUCH OF A TEACHER IF I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, SO I WANNA LEARN MORE. THANK YOU. I AM TICKLE PINK THAT THERE IS THE FEMALE ON BOARD. FINALLY THE LADY ON BOARD. IT IS. I SAW YOUR NAME THERE ON THE AGENDA. I SEE. SO WELCOME. I'M, I'M EXCITED TO SURF WITH THESE GUYS AND, AND I'VE, AS FAR AS, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE BEEN WELCOMED WITH VERY OPEN ARMS AND THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO TEACH ME AND HELP ME AS I GROW, ESPECIALLY WITH, WITH MY SIZE. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY UP AND ABLE TO HELP AND WILLING. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME EVERYBODY AGAIN, ALL FOUR OF YOU. UH, WE WISH YOU A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL CAREER. WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES INTO IT OVER THE LAST, UH, SIX YEARS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN A STRONG FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AND, AND THAT, UH, YOU WILL HELP MAKE US EVER STRONGER. SO, WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THIS WAS TERRIFIC. DON'T LET HER FOOL YOU 'CAUSE SHE KNOCKED THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST OUT THE PARK . AND SHE WILL BE GOING TO THE ACADEMY WITH NICK, UH, NEXT MONTH AS WELL. SO WE'LL GET HER ALL TRAINED UP AND WE'LL GET GOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION OF ACCOUNTS PAY, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE CLERK, JORDAN MASON. MR. BOYLE. YES. WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, WE HAD A RETIREMENT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND LAST MONTH WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE JORDAN MASON JOIN US. AND I'M GONNA LET YOU INTRODUCE HER, LET HER INTRODUCE HERSELF. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S JORDAN. I'M THE NEW ACCOUNTS PAYABLE CLERK. UM, I'VE JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO THE AREA, POOLER, GEORGIA, FROM A SMALL COASTAL TOWN RIGHT OUTSIDE OF TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. UM, MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT WAS WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS AN ACCOUNTANT FOR THE LOTTERY DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE. UM, I DID ALWAYS FIND MYSELF IN FINANCE, SO I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANK Y'ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, WE, WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AROUND FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU COUNCIL. GLAD HERE. THANK YOU. AND I, I, I WOULD SAY IT, LOOKING AT THE FIREFIGHTERS AND YOU, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT MORE THAN JUST OLD PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO THIS THING. . YEAH, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I I HAVE TO. I JUST WAS TRAVELING. I HAD TO LOOK AT MY PASSPORT AND THE AGE ON THERE MORE FREQUENTLY THAN I LIKE. SO WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE [02:35:01] THE ANNUAL UPDATE, CITY OF HARDY KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. UH, MR. ZIBO, PLEASE ANSWER. CAN WE BLOW THAT UP AND UP? MAYBE WE CAN. OKAY. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF IT. SO, AS OUR FORMER GREAT GOVERNOR SAID, IT'S A GREAT DAY IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WHAT'S BEEN A GREAT SEVEN YEARS IN THE CITY OF HARDY. SO, UM, I, WE PUT THIS TOGETHER, I THINK DID WE PUT IT TOGETHER EARLY 21 JUST TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT HAVE WE DONE AND GIMME SOME, UM, PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT CAN BE MEASURABLE. AND, UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THESE INDICATORS, BUT I, AS I DID INDICATED JUST A FEW A LITTLE BIT AGO WITH THE COUNCIL, IS I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER COMMUNITY IN SOUTH CAROLINA OR THE UNITED STATES OVER THE PAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS CAN BOOST THIS TYPE OF SUCCESS IN THESE SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. SO THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT. UM, WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF ALL OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. WE'VE ALL DONE A LOT AND, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, SO THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY OUR BEST PPIO PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, UM, THE DOCUMENT TO SHOW THAT WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO AND WHAT WE'VE ALL ACCOMPLISHED. SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. WE WILL UPDATE IT NEXT YEAR. WE WILL OBVIOUSLY DISTRIBUTE THIS WIDE 'CAUSE THIS IS A VERY GOOD, UM, INDICATOR OF WHAT THE CITY'S ALL ABOUT. I DID WANT TO NOTE A COUPLE THINGS. AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TAXABLE VALUE, AND THEN EVEN FOR 23, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE WE'RE IN 23 NOW, BUT, UM, THIS IS SOME CALENDAR AND SOME ARE FISCAL YEAR, SO IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME, UM, TIME PERIOD WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT. 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEASURED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT LIKE OUR TAXABLE VALUE IN THIS, AND FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, IT'S 88 MILLION AND THAT'S UP ANOTHER 9% FROM OUR NOTED ALMOST 81 MILLION. THE MARKET VALUE IS GOING TO, IS ALMOST 2 BILLION. SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, I CAME HERE AND SOME OF US CAME HERE IN 2015, THE MARKET VALUE OF THE CITY WAS FOUR 62 MILLION. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST INCREDIBLE. SO JUST THE, JUST THE SHEER VOLUME OF ACTIVITY. UM, IT'S, IT'S A CREDIT TO EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKED HERE AND, AND WORKS HARD EVERY DAY. ONE OTHER INDICATOR THAT I DID TH I THOUGHT ABOUT RECENTLY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY FOR SOME REASON WE DIDN'T INCLUDE, WHICH WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE, WAS FUND BALANCE, GENERAL FUND, FUND BALANCE. WHAT, WHAT'S THE AVAILABLE RESOURCE IN THE EVENT OF A NATURAL DISASTER EMERGENCY? JUST YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FUND THAT YOU, UM, RELY ON WHEN THINGS DON'T ALWAYS GO THE WAY YOU EXPECT. SO WHEN WE GOT HERE IN 2015, THE CITY HAD 3.6 MILLION OF, UH, FUND BALANCE. THAT'S TOTAL FUND BALANCE. AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 23, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 15.6 MILLION. SO O OVER A 330% INCREASE. SO WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF THE, THE FISCAL STEWARDS, UH, THAT WE'RE DOING AND, AND HOW WE'RE MOVING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK IT'S, AGAIN, A TESTAMENT TO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR. YES, SIR. RIGHT, MIKE? UH, THIS IS A GOOD STORY AND SOMETIMES OUR GOOD STORIES DON'T GET TOLD. YES SIR. AND I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE WITH THESE KIND OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS, A REAL, UH, GET IT OUT WITH SHELLY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THE HARD WORK THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE AND THE LEADERSHIP YOU'VE PROVIDED. AND LET'S NOT LET THIS STORY NOT GO TOLD, NOT IN A BRAGGING WAY, BUT JUST INFORMATIONALLY. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. YES, SIR. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE COMMENTS. AND AGAIN, THE COUNCIL IS, IS PART OF THE TEAM AND, AND A LOT OF STUFF WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE WITH YOUR DIRECTION AND, AND YOUR SUPPORT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, UH, COUNCIL OR QUESTIONS OF MR. ZIMBLER? I, I THINK THIS IS, UM, IT, IT'S A GREAT REPORT CARD. UH, I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOTTEN EIGHT YEARS UNDER YOUR STEWARDSHIP GETTING TO THIS POINT. I THINK, UH, IT NOW IT BECOMES EVEN MORE DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE FIT IN ALL THE NEW PROJECTS ON TOP OF ALL THESE OLD? AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE BIGGER CHALLENGES THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF WILL HAVE AND US AS A COUNCIL GOING FORWARD IS, UH, SO, UH, GREAT NEWS. THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 15TH, 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE [02:40:01] THIS, APPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF JUNE 15TH MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING? JUNE 15TH? WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE THE, UH, MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20TH SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. COUNCIL, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF JUNE 20TH? MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 20TH, 2023 SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. BOTH MINUTES ARE APPROVED. WE HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS THIS EVENING, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, A FEW NEW BUSINESS ITEMS. AND THE FIRST ONE IS AN ORDINANCE FIRST READING, AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF HARVILLE THAT AT LEAST PURCHASE FINANCING IN THE AMOUNT OF NOT EXCEEDING $1,900,000. UM, MR. BOYLE SEEMS LIKE HE'S GONNA TAKE THIS BALL. YEP. WELCOME. I HAVE BACKUP IF I NEED IT, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW FAR WE I CAN GO HERE. UH, JUST ONE, IT'S ONE QUICK SLIDE. UM, MO MOST OF THIS IS REALLY JUST REVIEW. UH, WE'VE TALKED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT BUYING OUT THE ENTERPRISE LEASE. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. THE COST TO BUY OUT THAT LEASE WILL BE $871,000 IN CHANGE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ASKED US TO DO WAS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WORKING WITH US WITH THE BUYOUT FEES. WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, NEGOTIATE A REDUCTION IN THEIR BUYOUT FEES OF CLOSE TO $42,000. AND, UM, THE NEXT THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS, WELL, THERE I SKIPPED SOMETHING THERE. THE ENTERPRISE BUYOUTS THE 871,000, AND THEN WE HAVE NEW VEHICLES FOR NINE 80 WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT TO BE BORROWED OF 1.9 MILLION. UM, THIS DEBT ISSUANCE WAS IN YOUR FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET, AND WE ENGAGED OUR PFM FINANCIAL ADVISORS WHO'VE BEEN WITH US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND THE BANK THAT'S GOING TO DO THIS IS WEBSTER BANK. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO, THEY'RE THE SUCCESSOR BANK TO STERLING BANK AND THEY HOLD THE, UH, FIRE STATION OR THE FIRE STATION 81, THE, UH, POLICE AND COURT RENOVATION, AND THEN ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE DID A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO. SO IT, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UM, A BANK THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH, A BANK THAT, UH, UH, PLAYS IN THE GOVERNMENT SPACE QUITE A BIT. AND YOU SAW IN THE ATTACHED PFM MEMO, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY WORKED WITH WEBSTER AND RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, WE PROCEED WITH THIS BORROWING. AND THEN, UH, THE BIG THING IS WE HAD, WE, WEBSTER WAS INTERESTED ENOUGH IN OUR BUSINESS THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO HOLD THE RATE 4% OR LOWER. AND THEN AS WE GOT TO THIS POINT, THE RATE ENDED UP BEING 3.97 FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THIS LEASE PURCHASE. FINANCE AND STAFF IS HERE REQUESTING AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ON FIRST READING. OKAY. LET'S START THE QUESTIONING TO MY RIGHT WITH MR. MESMAN. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. MRS. GUZMAN? I HAVE NO QUESTION MR. WHITE. JOHN, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT ENTERPRISE, SORT OF HISTORICALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS WITH ENTERPRISE AND THERE WAS SOME INTERNAL PROBLEMS WITH US IN TERMS OF, AND MY QUESTION IS TWOFOLD. ONE, HAVE WE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD, NOT THAT WE WERE AT FAULT, BUT THERE WERE SOME GROWING PAINS OR SOME THINGS THAT AFFECTED OUR PERFORMANCE ASIDE FROM ENTERPRISE. WERE WE WITH THAT? AND SECOND, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE GONNA, MR. BROWN, WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE INSIDE ON THOSE VEHICLES. IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? ALL ALL THE NON-EMERGENCY VEHICLES? YES, THAT IS, THAT IS STILL THE PLAN. OKAY, GOOD. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION, BUT, UH, INTERNALLY, ARE WE, UH, TIGHTENED UP AND ARE WE UH, A LITTLE BIT BETTER? I BELIEVE WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME, UH, DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR, FOR SOME NEW STAFF AND, AND CERTAINLY FROM MY STANDPOINT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE CITY MANAGER MAY HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HISTORY DOESN'T REPEAT ITSELF INTERNALLY ON THAT [02:45:02] WE, WE WILL ENDEAVOR HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE. I KNOW YOU WILL, SIR. MR. CARROLL? UM, NO SIR. I, I DON'T THINK SO. UM, AND I GUESS THE, UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? IS THAT LIKE SOME OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE? I THINK, UM, JOHN, IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BUTLER'S AND SOME OTHER THAT DOES THE EMERGENCY YES. TYPE THINGS. THERE ARE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS AND SO FORTH THAT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WORKS ON THOSE VEHICLES. HAS TO HAVE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, JOHN, I'M, I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THE ATTACHMENT A AND WHICH, UM, OUTLINES THE $871,000 OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE BUYING OUT FROM ENTERPRISE. YES SIR. OKAY. SO, UH, FOR MY EDIFICATION, BUT I THINK ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, THERE ARE ALL THESE VEHICLES AND I DIDN'T ADD 'EM UP. HOW MANY THERE ARE HERE? 25 FROM ENTERPRISE 25. THAT $871,000, THAT GIVES US OWNERSHIP OF ALL 25 OF THOSE THINGS. SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE NOT PAYING SOMEBODY $900,000 NOT GETTING ANYTHING. WE'RE GETTING 25 VEHICLES THAT WE NOW OWN. AT SOME POINT WE'LL TRADE 'EM IN AND GET SOME VALUE OUT OF IT AS WELL. YES, SIR. SO IT'S NOT JUST THROWING MONEY, THIS IS WE'RE PURCHASING CORRECT. AND OKAY. UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT POINT WAS CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. UM, AT THIS TIME, UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF THESE VEHICLES? SO THERE'S, AND, UH, UH, UM, SO THE PUBLIC ALSO KNOWS THE 980,000. HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE THEY? THAT IS 15, I'M SORRY, 15 VEHICLES. THAT IS 15. 15 VEHICLES THAT WERE THE, THESE ARE AN A LEASE ARRANGEMENT OR OUTRIGHT PURCHASE. THESE WILL BE OUTRIGHT PURCHASE. OKAY. SO FOR THE PUBLIC, WE HAVE THE MILLION NINE IS BASICALLY FOR THE PURCHASE OF 40 VEHICLES. OKAY. SO ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR MAY ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THIS, UH, APPROVAL OF 1,000,009. OKAY. SEEING NO, NONE. I WOULD LIKE THE COUNSEL TO PROVIDE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH SEVEN SIX A I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UH, NEXT READING IS IN TWO WEEKS. UM, NOW WE GO TO THE FIRST READING OF ANOTHER ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER EIGHT, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION OF THE HARDY CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING THE BURNING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND RELATED MATTERS. THIS IS 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX B. UM, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHIEF RA, UM, THIS IS A, UH, AS A RESULT OF A REQUEST, UM, BY ME, UH, IN RESPONSE TO SOME COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC. AND I ASKED, UH, CHIEF RA TO REVIEW OUR ORDINANCES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UH, CHANGES TO THAT BURNING, UH, REQUIREMENT. SO, UH, THAT'S HOW, THAT'S WHAT GOT US TO THIS POINT, RIGHT, CHIEF? CORRECT. OKAY. IT'S ALL YOURS. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, AFTER TAKING IN THAT, UH, I SPOKE TO OUR LOCAL DHC ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICE, AS WELL AS SOME SITE CONTRACTORS AND LAND DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA, UM, WE WENT THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH OUR ORDINANCE CURRENTLY, UH, MIMIC THE SAME REGULATIONS THAT SOUTH CAROLINA DHC UH, ADMINISTERS. UH, WE CANNOT GO BELOW DHE X THRESHOLD, BUT WE CAN GO ABOVE THEM BY LOCAL ORDINANCE. SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WE HAVE MADE CHANGES TO THAT, UH, FOR YOU ALL TO, I THINK THE REMOTE IS DEAD. TURN IT ON. [02:50:01] IT WON'T TURN ON. HOLD IT UP IN THE AIR AND JUST CIRCLE IT AROUND. , HOLD ON. THERE WE GO. JUST DO THE ANTENNA AS IT CAN. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. CURRENT DHE REGULATIONS, UM, HAS TO BE A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND PUBLIC ROADWAYS. UM, CURRENTLY DHEC AND US WILL GRANT A VARIANCE LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET, BUT NO LESS THAN 500 FEET FOR ENHANCED BURNING, UH, FOR CLOSE QUARTERS BURNING IN, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS OR IN DEVELOPED AREAS. ALSO, UH, TWO PILES PER SIX ACRES IS THE SAME THING WE GO BY. WHEN I SPOKE TO THE DEC OFFICE, THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A WAY THAT THEY QUANTIFIED THOSE SIX ACRES. UH, CURRENTLY, UH, SITE PREP CONTRACTORS CAN BURN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND WE CHARGE $50 PERMIT FEE, UH, FOR 30 DAYS TO VISIT THE SITE. SO WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TONIGHT IS, UM, WE'RE EXTENDING THE, UM, DISTANCE FROM A THOUSAND, BASICALLY 1000 FEET TO 2000 FEET WILL REQUIRE FORCED AIR OR ENHANCED BURNING. AND WHAT THAT MEANS, IT IS BASICALLY ON SITE INCINERATION THAT, UH, LESSENS THE AMOUNT OF SMOKE. UM, IT MAKES THE HOT FIRES BURN HOTTER AND CLEANER. UM, NO VARIANCE WILL BE GIVEN FOR UNDER 1000 FEET. UH, THE OPEN BURNING IF THEY WANTED TO GO WITH THE TRADITIONAL METHOD WOULD HAVE TO BE 2000 FEET, UH, FROM STRUCTURES AND OR ROADWAYS. UM, TWO PILES PER SIX ACRES. AND WHAT I DID THERE IS A SQUARE ACRE OR SIX SQUARE ACRES IS 511 FEET BY 511 FEET. WE PUT THAT DISTANCE IN THERE FOR 511 FEET BETWEEN IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL PILES IN ACREAGE, UH, TO HAVE THAT IN THERE. AND THEN ALSO THE PERMIT FEE WOULD INCREASE TO 250 PER BURN AREA PER 30 DAYS. UH, THERE ALSO, WHILE WE WERE IN THERE, WE, UH, CLEANED THINGS UP WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL BURN PERMITS. UM, THEY'RE DAILY WEATHER BASED. THIS IS JUST FOR YOUR DOWNTOWN, OR IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE HOA COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BURN, UH, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, HAVE TO COME TO ONE OF OUR FIREHOUSES TO GET A PERMIT. THAT PERMIT IS FREE AND IT'S ONLY FOR ONE DAY ONLY. AGAIN, IT'S WEATHER BASED. ALSO, WE PUT IN THERE THAT WE CAN DENY PERMITS BASED UPON IF WE'RE HAVING ANY SPECIAL FUNCTIONS OR EVENTS THAT, UM, OR IF OUR GUYS AND GALS ARE INUNDATED WITH CALLS AND WE'RE BUSY, WE CAN, UH, DENY PERMITS JUST BASED UPON THAT. UM, AS WELL TO GIVE US KIND OF A, A COMFORT LEVEL, UM, PRESCRIBE FIRES AND RECREATION FIRES AND FOR THOSE LARGER LAND TRACKS THAT DO PRESCRIBE FIRES FOR, UM, FUEL MITIGATION AND BASICALLY BURNING THE UNDERSTORY AND UNDERBRUSH OF LIKE THE FOREST AND UNDEVELOPED LAND, THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION. AND THAT'S BASED UPON SMOKE MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES. WHENEVER THE LAND OWNER OR THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE BURNS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION, TELL THEM THE, UH, MOUNT OF ACRES TONNAGE AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE BURNING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SMOKE PLUME PROJECTIONS WON'T IMPACT THE CITY THAT WILL BE ISSUED BY FORESTRY. AND THEN RECREATION FIRES SUCH AS BONFIRES, UH, THEY WILL REQUIRE A FREE PERMIT AND THAT WILL BE AUTHORIZED BY MYSELF ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO ANYTHING THAT IS FOR OUTDOOR BURNING, WE'VE KIND OF REVAMPED IT ALL, BUT WITH THE EMPHASIS BEING ON THE LAND CLEARING, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE RESEARCHED IT. UM, WE, UH, WENT OUT AND WE MET WITH DIFFERENT FOLKS. SOME OF THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES ARE GRINDING, BUT, UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST, EVEN WITH MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES, IF YOU GET A TUB GRINDER ON SITE AND YOU START GRINDING THAT IF YOU THINK PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT SMOKE, YOU HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS WHEN IT COMES TO TUB GRINDING BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY LOUD, EIGHT TO 10 HOURS A DAY. UM, BUT BASICALLY THESE ARE THE, UH, CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE TO THE ORDINANCE. UM, THIS WILL BE FIRST READING TONIGHT IF YOU APPROVED AS WRITTEN, OR WE CAN MAKE ANY, UH, ADJUSTMENTS BY SECOND READING. THANK YOU, CHIEF. GREAT, GREAT WORK HERE. AND AGAIN, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONING, JUST TO GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND, A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ALREADY, UM, THIS BEGAN A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN FOLKS FROM RIVERTON POINT, UH, UH, COMPLAINED ABOUT HEAVY AMOUNT OF SMOKE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, FOLKS FROM SUN CITY, INCLUDING ME, UH, UH, CALLED [02:55:01] ABOUT SMOKE, I GUESS WHEREVER, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS DOING IT, BUT COMING FROM THE EAST ARGENT AREA. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS OVER THERE. AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHAT LED TO, UH, CHIEF ROUTE DID A LOT OF WORK OUT GOING OUT THERE, VISITING A SITE, UH, ON SUNDAY MORNINGS. I MEAN, HE, HE PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS. SO THAT'S THE BACKGROUND. UM, LET'S OPEN IT UP WITH, I, I THINK IT'S MR. CARROLL THIS TIME. IF JOEY RECOMMENDS THAT AND HE'S RESEARCHED IT, THEN HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE EXPERT IN THAT. AND I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. WHITE. UH, CHIEF, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY, UH, WAS IMPRESSED WITH IS HOW YOU'VE SET STANDARDS HIGHER THAN THE STATES. AND SO, UH, THIS WASN'T WATERED DOWN BY ANY MEANS. IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PIECE OF SETTING THE RIGHT KIND OF STANDARDS AND GIVING THE RIGHT KIND OF MESSAGE. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE ON THAT AREA. MRS. GUZMAN DONE JOEY. UM, LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF WORK. WENT INTO A LOT OF RESEARCH AND LOOKING UP SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, COMING TO ALL THOSE CONCLUSIONS TO MAKE SOMETHING. YEAH. SO THANKS MR. MESSMAN. UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO IT. JUST OBSERVATION IS, SINCE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE DONUT HOLES HERE IN HARDY, UM, THAT THE COUNTY'S BURN ORDINANCES, WHERE ARE THEY? ARE THEY STILL ABOUT THE DHEC MINIMUMS? THEY ACTUALLY, THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT ITSELF DOES NOT ISSUE BURN PERMITS. THEY'RE ALL ISSUED THROUGH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION. IF THE FOLKS ARE PULLING THOSE AND, AND DO IT 'EM THE CORRECT WAY, UM, CURRENTLY IT JUST MIMICS, UM, DHEC AND SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION WHO ENFORCES THOSE THEN? I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES IT ON THEIR LEVEL. I KNOW THAT FORESTRY COMMISSION DOES HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECT THAT WILL COME OUT AND REQUEST, UM, THEIR FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE MAY, UH, ENFORCE THAT. BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO SAY IF THEY DO OR DON'T. OKAY. I KNOW TYPICALLY THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR STATE ENTITIES TO COME OUT. OKAY. MY CONCERN WAS WITH SOME OF THESE LARGER DONUT HOLES WHERE THE SMOKE FROM THOSE WILL OR CAN AFFECT RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF HARVILLE. CORRECT. AND, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN, WE CAN EDUCATE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BEYOND OUR BOUNDARIES AND, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO THE RIGHT THING. UM, BUT I DO HAVE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE AS WELL AS THE FORESTRY COMMISSION. I CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT PHONE CALL, UM, ON THE CITY'S BEHALF IF WE DO GET COMPLAINTS ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT'S AWESOME. UH, CHIEF, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, UM, WHAT IS A PILE? IS THAT A SUBJECTIVE OR IS THERE A PRECISE MEASUREMENTS TO THAT? WE DO HAVE DIMENSIONS ON IT. IT'S 30 FOOT BY 30 FOOT. IT'S 30 FOOT BY. SO THEY, THEY CAN'T SNEAK IN A COUPLE EXTRA LOGS. IS THERE'S A SPECIFIC DEFINITION TO WHAT A PILE IS. CORRECT. MOST OF THOSE, UM, I WOULD SAY 99% OF THE FOLKS ABIDE BY THAT. NOW. UM, WE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT AGAIN, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE LAND DEVELOPERS AND, AND ESPECIALLY THE SITE CONTRACTORS. LET'S KEEP THE PILES AT THAT MINIMUM AND ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, WORKS BETTER, KEEP 'EM AS HOT AS WE CAN AND REDUCE THE SMOKE. UM, I MADE A NOTE. WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL DAILY PERMIT. UM, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GIVES THIS DAILY PERMIT, AND LET'S SAY I'M LIVING NEXT DOOR TO BO AND HE GETS, HE DECIDES TO BURN ONE DAY AND IT'S GONE RIGHT INTO MY BEDROOM WINDOW. IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO THE, THE NEIGHBORS WHEN YOU GRANT THESE PER RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, CLOSE YOUR WINDOW ? RIGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW HE JUST, HE WOULDN'T CARE IF, BRING ME SOME MORE WOOD. JOHN, LIKE JOHN KNOWS THAT THERE IS CONSIDERATION AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS, UH, TYPICALLY IN THE SPRING WHEN LEAVES AND THINGS BEGIN TO FALL, UM, WE DO CONSULT WITH THE PEOPLE AND, AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY'LL PUT THE FIRE OUT. USUALLY IF THEY'RE BURNING, UM, DURING DAYTIME HOURS AND IT'S NOT WET, THE SMOKE DOESN'T LINGER AROUND, BUT ON THOSE MOIST, KINDA HUMID MORNINGS THAT WE KINDA GET AROUND HERE AND THEN, THEN IN THE EVENINGS WE WILL ASK 'EM TO SNUFF IT OUT AS WELL. WE, WE DON'T WANT 'EM TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY TELL US THEY WOULDN'T PUT A PILE OUT. OKAY. SO THEY, YOU GIVE A DAY PERMIT, SO THEY COULD DO IT AT NOON OR THEY COULD DO AT 6:00 PM NO, IT'S TILL, UH, LEGAL SUNSET. [03:00:01] TILL SUNSET AND IT'S, IT'S THE LEGAL SUNSET. SO, UH, LEGAL SUNSET TODAY IS PROBABLY EIGHT O'CLOCK-ISH. UM, AND, AND BASICALLY IT, IT WORKS WITH THE, THE, UH, SUN PHASES. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY SHOOTING THEIR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY'RE FIRE AND, YOU KNOW. OKAY. UM, JUST ONE MORE POINT, AND THIS GOES TO SECTION B. UM, AS THIS WAS ALL DEVELOPING AS YOU, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW, UM, WE LEARNED THAT FROM CANADA, THAT SMOKE CAN TRAVEL A LONG WAY AND STILL HAVE A, A QUITE A, AN EFFECT THE AFTER THOUSANDS OF MILES, MUCH MORE, LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET. SO IN PART B, WHAT WAS BEFORE WAS A THOUSAND FEET, RIGHT? CORRECT. AND NOW IT'S 2000 FEET AND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE, IF IT'S LESS THAN 2000 FEET BETWEEN 1,002 THOUSAND, THEY MUST USE THE FORCED AIR OR ENHANCED BURNING METHOD. CORRECT. WOULD YOU PLEASE FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE COUNCIL, EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS EXACTLY. BASICALLY IN, IN JUST LAY TERMS, IT IS A GIANT BLOWER THAT FORCES AIR ONTO THE, THE SEAT OF THE FIRE, BASICALLY LIKE ON SITE INCINERATION. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT WILL, ONCE YOU GET AN ESTABLISHED FIRE, YOU PUT THE FOREST AIR ONTO IT, IT CREATES A HOTTER FIRE. THE HOTTER FIRE RAPIDLY BURNS THE, THE PRODUCTS IN THERE AND IT REDUCES THE, THE MOISTURE BECAUSE IT'S BURNING SO HOT AND REDUCES THE SMOKE FROM THE FIRE. RIGHT. NOW, UM, ONE THING THAT I, YOU KNOW, AND IN PART C IT TALKED ABOUT WINDS. IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT OR SHOULD THERE BE A REQUIREMENT WHEN WINDS GET OVER A CERTAIN MILES PER HOUR IN RESIDENTIAL? UM, WE DO, UM, ANYTHING GREATER THAN 10, WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY, UM, RESIDENTIAL BURNING WITH THE SMALLER PILES ON THE BIGGER PILES, UM, IS CASE BY CASE BASIS. WE DO ADVISE THEM NOT TO, BUT SOMETIMES THE WIND, IF YOU'RE USING THE FOREST AIR, YOU'RE GETTING WINDS BASICALLY IN EXCESS OF A HUNDRED MILE AN HOUR THAT'S BLOWING THROUGH THAT FOREST AIR IN THERE. AND USUALLY THEY HAVE LARGE LAND THAT'S CLEARED DOWN TO JUST MINERAL DIRT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY WORRY ABOUT WILDFIRES OR ANYTHING OF THAT SPREADING. UM, NOW SMOKE DRIFT WITH IT IS A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND IT'S ALSO IN THERE THAT IF IT IS AFFECTING THE AMBIENT, UH, OUTDOOR AIR, WE CAN ASK THEM EVEN WITH THE PERMIT, WE, WE CAN TELL THEM TO PUT IT OUT FOR LAND CLEARING. SO IF THERE'S WE BEING THE CITY, UH, IF THERE, IF THE WINDS GET WHAT WE FEEL IS TOO MUCH AND THEY'RE BURNING AND IT'S DRIFTING SMOKE FOR FIVE MILES AND YEAH, WE, WE CAN STEP IN AND TELL THEM TO HALT. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AND THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME, BUT INITIATING THAT CALL CORRECT, IT WOULD BE, UH, MYSELF OR DE NEED TO, TO GO OUT, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. OR IT COULD BE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENTS OFFICER, IF WE GET ALERTED BY A CONCERNED CITIZEN, MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN FACT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD AFFECT US TO TELL THEM TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE OR PUT THE FIRE OUT. UM, BUT YES, WE CAN, WE, IT DOES GIVE US IN THE, THE NEW ORDINANCE, THE, UH, LIBERTY TO DO THAT. SO, UM, ONE LAST ONE. I PROMISE IT. CAN WE SET UP SOME SORT OF, UH, PUBLIC HOTLINE? UM, I KNOW WE HAVE HERES AND HELPS, BUT IF SOMEONE IN RIVERTON POINT, THE USE OF RECENT EXAMPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SATURDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WIND CHANGES AND IT PICKS UP AND THE WIND SHIFTS TO TOWARDS RIVERTON POINT AND THERE'S A LOT OF SMOKE. UM, IF WE COULD PUBLICIZE A HOTLINE NUMBER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE COUNCIL AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN GO RIGHT TO THE SOURCE AND SAY THERE'S A LARGE SMELL OF FIRE AND, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME IMMEDIATE ACTION, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE CALL YOU AND THEN YOU GO OVER, IS THERE A MORE DIRECT WAY THAT WE CAN PUBLICIZE? WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THIS OUT ON OUR WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA. [03:05:01] WE CAN GIVE OUR NON-EMERGENT, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER AND ALSO WE CAN PUT THE, UM, ON THE HERES AND HELP. WE CAN PUT A SECTION IN THERE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO THAT. THEY, I'LL WORK WITH, UH, JOHN AND THEM TO, TO GET THAT ON THERE AS WELL. AS WELL AS IT ALL RIGHT. 'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL INITIATIVE ON YOUR PART AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF IT. AND, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, WE CAN'T, CAN'T PREDICT THE WINDS, BUT AT LEAST THE PUBLIC KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS. RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOEY. UM, ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE NOW TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT OR ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THE CHANGES TO THE BURNING OR ORDINANCES? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX B. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE APPROVE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX B. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE PUBLIC OR COUNSEL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. SECOND. READING IN TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. NEXT IS A RESOLUTION. RESOLUTIONS. UH, OR NEXT, NEXT TIME YOU NEED A TECHNICION OF A CALL, JUST CALL ME. OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE NEED A TEAM THAT, WHEREVER I FORGET SOMETHING, I HAVE SOMEONE TO HELP ME. THANK YOU MR. CARROLL. YES, SIR. ANY TIME. UM, NEXT IS WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS. THERE'S ONLY ONE VOTE TO RESOLUTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE CITY COUNCIL, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT TO CONTINUE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DON RYAN CENTER FOR INNOVATION. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX DASH ONE F. MR. ZIBO, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE, UM, I BELIEVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE M MONTHS, I LOSE TRACK OF TIME AGAIN, THAT THE, WE DID GET A PROGRESS REPORT FROM THE DON RYAN CENTER. UH, HE WENT, THEY WENT THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THEIR PROGRESS, THE WORK PLAN, WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED. UM, WE HAVE VERY CLOSE COORDINATION, UH, BETWEEN MR. PARSONS AND OUR MEDIA DEPARTMENT, UM, MONITORING THEIR PROGRESS. I KNOW THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AND, UH, QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WERE RAISED BY COUNCILMAN WHITE. UM, AND I, I BELIEVE WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE. UM, WE BELIEVE THIS IS A VALUABLE TOOL. UM, IT IS A THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT WE WILL, WE CAN MONITOR IT AND WE CAN GIVE THEM NOTICE IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OR SECOND YEAR OR THIRD YEAR, DEPENDING ON, IT'S BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE AND THEIR MEETING SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE ALL AGREED TO. SO WE BELIEVE FOR THE NOMINAL INVESTMENT, UM, OF 57,000 A YEAR, THIS PROVIDES A VALUABLE TOOL FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, UM, TO EXPAND IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF, OF THIS RESOLUTION TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DON RUN CENTER. OKAY. UH, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING WITH, UM, MR. MESMAN. UM, NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION, BUT I DO KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT THE DON RYAN CENTER HAS HELPED GET THEIR BUSINESS OFF THE GROUND. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF HARDY SHOULD CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN. THAT'S IT, MRS. GUZMAN, NO QUESTION MR. WHITE. UM, MY, UH, I SPOKE TO MIKE ACTUALLY AS LATE AS YESTERDAY ON THIS ISSUE. AND MY VIEW IS THAT, UH, WHAT WILL SELL ME ON THIS IS THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT EVERY YEAR. AND SO I THINK, UH, NEIL AND MIKE, YOUR JOB IS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR TO GIVE US A PROGRESS REPORT AS TO HOW IT'S GOING AND, UH, AND WE'LL SEE. SO I'M WILLING TO GO OUT ON THE LEAP OF FAITH, BUT I DO HAVE SOME REAL SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR EFFECTIVENESS BASED ON COMMENTS I'VE HEARD BEYOND JUST MY OWN, UH, POINT OF VIEW. BUT, UH, I'M, UH, I'M GONNA GO WITH 'EM AND, UH, BELIEVE THAT WE WILL MANAGE IT WELL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT A YEAR FROM NOW AND SEE THE PROGRESS IN A REPORT, WHICH I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO. IS THAT NOT CORRECT, MIKE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CARROLL. [03:10:01] UH, I AGREE WITH, UM, MR. WHITE. I'VE HAD SOME, SOME, UH, LITTLE BIT OF CONCERNS AND ISSUES ALSO, BUT I HAVE CHECKED AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE USING THEM NOW. AND, UM, UM, MR. SAMOR HAS, UM, I'M SURE HAS DEALT WITH THEM AND, AND, UM, NEIL, AND IF THEY RECOMMEND US, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM A SHOT. AND ALSO MY REASSURANCE WAS THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A THREE YEAR CONTRACT, WE CAN, UH, REVIEW IT EVERY YEAR. SO, UM, I'M SATISFIED. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE, I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE MEMBERSHIP HERE, KNOWING FULL WELL. AND WE, WHEN WE FIRST ENTERED INTO THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE, WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD TAKE TIME BEFORE WE, WE ARE ABLE TO FULLY, UH, UTILIZE, UH, OR HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MAKE, WARRANT THE INVESTMENT. BUT I, I LOOK AT, UH, MR. ZIM BOY'S EARLIER REPORT OF ALL THE, THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. UH, ALSO, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A LIST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE REGISTERED IN THIS, IN THE CITY. AND IT'S, IT'S NOT DOZENS, IT'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPERATING BUSINESSES WHO OUR CITY, UH, AND PAYING BUSINESS LICENSE FEES. SO THE POTENTIAL HERE TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IS ENORMOUS. AND I, I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IT'S THAT POTENTIAL THAT MAKES OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH DON RYAN, UM, UH, PRODUCTIVE. SO, UH, I SUPPORT IT. AND, UM, BUT I, I ALSO AGREE WITH MR. WHITE AND MR. AND MR. CARROLL THAT A YEARLY REVIEW, UM, IS, IS ESSENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, SPENDING OUR MONEY WISELY AND PRODUCTIVELY. UM, OKAY. HAVING SAID THAT, I'LL NOW OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE DON RYAN CENTER? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO, UH, RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX DASH ONE F. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, PARDON ME, UM, ON THE RIGHT PAGE THERE, AGAIN, APPROVE, UH, 2023 DASH SIX DASH ONE F. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, THAT IS APPROVED. AND WE GO ON TO RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER D, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH COLTON BILLING. WALTER BARROW, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR EMS BILLING AND FIRE COST RECOVERY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. UM, I SEE CHIEF KEMP THAT IS GOING TO HANDLE THIS ONE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. AND GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL. UH, BACK IN APRIL, WE ISSUED AN RFP TO DO THE EMS BILLING. UH, WE DID RECEIVE FOUR, UH, RESPONDENTS, UH, LAST, LAST WEEK. UH, MYSELF, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. BOYLE, AND MISS CINDY IN FINANCE, AND ONE OF OUR OTHER GUYS, UH, NEIL AND DYLAN COX, . SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT, NEIL. IT'S MY FAULT. UM, BUT THEY DID, UH, WE, WE, WE DID EVALUATE IT. AND, UH, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT THAT WAS OUR SCORING THAT WE CAME UP WITH. UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE RATE, BUT THEY ARE ALSO A LOCAL COMPANY. AND THE BIGGEST THING WITH THAT IS WE ARE GOING TO GET ACTUAL ONSITE TRAINING FOR THE GUYS ON THE AMBULANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE RIGHT WORDS. 'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T USE THE RIGHT WORDS, YOU DON'T GET THE MONEY. SO THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BE DOWN HERE TO ACTUALLY TRAIN US ON A QUARTERLY BASIS IN-PERSON TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO OUR SUGGESTION IS TO GO WITH COLLETON BILLING AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA USE THEM TO BASICALLY HELP SET UP OUR, OUR, UH, FEE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT THE FEE SCHEDULE TO YOU YET. BUT WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE AREA'S DOING, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO DOING THE BILLING FOR EFFINGHAM COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO THEY'D KNOW THE LOCAL, WHAT THE LOCALS ARE CHARGING, AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM AND, AND GET THAT SCHEDULED. SO WE'LL BRING IT TO YOU SOON. BUT IN ADDITION, WE ALSO SET UP FOR THE FIRE [03:15:01] FIRE BILLING, WHICH WE USED TO DO A WHILE BACK. UM, WE UPDATED THE ORDINANCES A FEW YEARS AGO. AND, UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BILLING. UM, THAT BILLING IS ONLY DONE ON LIKE VEHICLE ACCIDENTS AND THINGS THAT ARE NOT HARDY V CITIZENS. IF YOU'RE A HARVILLE CITIZEN, YOU DON'T GET THAT BILL FOR THE FIRE COST RECOVERY. THAT IS ONLY TO TRY TO, BASICALLY, WE DID IT FOR 95 'CAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH THERE AND THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN. THEY DON'T PAY TAXES HERE. AND THEY USED A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES ON THE, THE BIG CRASHES, ESPECIALLY THOSE 18 WHEELERS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO RECOVER SOME OF THAT COST. BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WE WERE GETTING A PRETTY GOOD PENNY FOR THAT BACK THEN. AND SO WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY TO DO IT. SO WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO THAT AND THEY'RE GONNA HELP US DO THAT. SO NOW WE'RE JUST, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MS. UZMAN, WHAT IS, UH, THE TURNAROUND TIME ON BILLING? THEY SAID EVERYTHING'S BILLED WITHIN 72 HOURS. EVERYTHING'S BILLED WITH, BUT I MEAN, THEIR COLLECTION AND RE REMITTANCE BACK TO THE CITY, ARE THEY GETTING ONCE A MONTH? UH, AS THEY GET IT, WE, WE CAN SET IT UP HOWEVER WE WANT. AND THAT'S SOME OF THE PROCESS WE'LL GET WITH THE, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. AND DO WE WANT IT WEEKLY? DO WE WANT IT DAILY? DO WE WANT IT MONTHLY? WE CAN SET THAT SCHEDULE AS TO WHEN THEY SEND US THE MONEY BACK. IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF BILL TO COLLECTED ONLY COLLECTED? IT'S THE 5.95 ON COLLECTED MONEY. BUT I MEAN, DID THEY GIVE YOU A PERCENTAGE OF YEAH. THEY'RE COLLECTED COLLECTING AROUND 90 VERSUS WHAT BILL VERSUS, YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS IN THE NINETIES PERCENTAGE WISE. SO IT WAS VERY HIGH. GOOD. I'D LIKE THAT. YES. YES. . THANK YOU MRS. GUZMAN. SO WHO'S GETTING BILL? SO A REGULAR CITIZENS, HOW THOSE CITIZENS, WILL THEY GET A BILL FOR USING AMBULANCES? NO, ONLY TO, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE . OKAY. AND THAT, THAT'LL BE US BRINGING THAT SCHEDULE BACK, AND THEN WE CAN HASH OUT THOSE DETAILS. THE FIRE COST RECOVERY IS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE, AND IF YOU'RE INSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, YOU DO NOT GET BILLED FOR THAT. OKAY. WHAT I HAVE SEEN, AND SPECIFICALLY WE TALKED TO COLTON AND A COUPLE OTHERS, WHAT THEY DO IN A LOT OF CITIES IS THEY BILL THE INSURANCE, WHATEVER THE INSURANCE PAYS, THEY STOP RIGHT THERE. THEY DON'T GO AFTER THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT THEY AT LEAST GET THE DIFFERENCE, RIGHT. AND, AND IT HELPS THEM AT LEAST PAY FOR THE, THE SUPPLIES THAT THEY USE ON THE CALL TO KEEP THE, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT. CAME FROM. SO IT, IT, IT'LL BE REALLY UP TO YOU GUYS HOW WE WANNA BILL, BUT WE'LL BRING ALL THOSE OPTIONS TO YOU WHEN WE BRING THE, THE, UH, ORDINANCE TO, TO ADJUST THE FEE SCHEDULE. MR. WHITE, STEVE, IN TERMS OF YOUR INTERNAL RESOURCES AND COORDINATING, UH, WITH JOHN, DO WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AND PROCESSES IN PLACE TO DO THIS? OR IS THAT GONNA STRESS YOU? A LITTLE BIT? I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THE BILLING, IT STRESS ME, IT'S DEALING WITH MONEY , WELL, OUR GUYS WILL HAVE, IT'LL BE VERY SIMPLE. THEY'RE BASICALLY CREATING THEIR EMS REPORTS LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS WE HAVE TO, AND THE, THE BILLING COMPANY ACTUALLY WILL JUST PULL THOSE REPORTS OVER AND THEN THEY'LL DO IT, AND THEN THE MONEY WILL THROUGH JOHN'S DEPARTMENT AT THAT POINT. SO YOU'RE ABLE TO BUILD ON SOME EXISTING THINGS AS OPPOSED TO NEEDING YES. THEY JUST, THEY ACTUALLY TACK ONTO OUR, OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. YEAH. SO THEY'LL PULL RIGHT OUT OF OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT IS A STANDARDIZED, IT'S CALLED NEMSIS 3.5, AND IT'S THE SAME FORM, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMPANY YOU USE. SO IT PULLS THE SAME DATA FIELDS, EVERYTHING. SO THEY JUST PULL ALL THAT NEMSIS REPORT AND WITHIN 72 HOURS THEY BILL FOR THOSE, THOSE CALLS. IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD FOR US. ITS VERY EASY. SO THEY LITERALLY JUST DO THEIR REPORT AND ONCE WE QA, QA IT, AND IT'S APPROVED, IT GOES TO THEM BASICALLY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. STEVE? YES. MR. CARROLL, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS. I DO REMEMBER, STEVE, YOU WRITE YEARS AGO THAT WAS A MM-HMM. PRETTY LUCRATIVE. UM, YES. THING AND I'M, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU, YOU ARE HAPPY WITH, THEN YOU RECOMMEND, THEN THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I THINK THE TRAINING PART IS REALLY WHAT SOLD US ON GETTING THAT TRAINING CONSTANTLY. AND THEY LOCAL. YES. KIND OF A LOCAL. SO THAT'S GOOD. CHIEF, I JUST HAVE ONE CONCERN. YES, SIR. AND ONE ONLY. I DO NOT, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT I DO NOT WANT ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE TO PAY ONE EXTRA PENNY FOR ANY FIRE OR EMS SERVICES. WELL, THEY DON'T PAY FOR FIRE FOR SURE. THAT OKAY. THAT'S ALREADY DONE. SO WHEN WE EMS, THAT'S A, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION ON, ON ON. OKAY. SO, BUT YOU'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO US. I BRING IT, I, I PERSONALLY, OF THE, OF THE OPINION, THEY PAY TAXES. WE, WE DID THIS TO SERVICE THEM WITH THE TAXES THAT WE CHARGE. AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE CHARGED FOR ANY AMBULANCE SERVICE. I, I AGREE WITH, WHAT WAS IT, COLTON? MM-HMM. . YOU GET WHAT YOU GET FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND THAT'S IT. RIGHT. AND I AGREE WITH THAT PART. IF WE CAN COLLECT SOMETHING FROM THE INSURANCE JUST TO GET OUR, SOME OF THE, THE SERV, THE, [03:20:01] THE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, THE SOFT GOODS THAT WE HAVE TO USE ON THE CALL, IF WE CAN GET MONEY TO PAY THAT BACK, THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT. AND IF THEY'RE FROM NEW JERSEY OR NEW YORK CHARGING DOUBLE FAIR GAME. BOY ILLINOIS. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THEY'RE VERY ADVANCED IN, PLEASE. UM, TELL ME ABOUT PULLING THE REPORTS TO SEND IT TO MM-HMM? . YES MA'AM. HIPAA, THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE HIPAA AGREEMENTS HAVE TO SIGN AGREEMENT. YEP. THE HIPA WELL, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T SIGN A HIPAA AGREEMENT TO TURN IT OVER TO BILLING BECAUSE BILLING IS COVERED UNDER THE HIPAA AGREEMENTS. SO WE CAN SHARE WITH THE BILLING COMPANY THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN-HOUSE. IF THEY LET IT OUT, THEN THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER THE HIPAA VIOLATIONS, NOT US. SO IT DOES COME ON THEM, NOT US. OKAY. EVERY, THE TRAINING FOR MM-HMM. THE VARIOUS CODE THAT THEY HAVE TO YOU YES, MA'AM. ABLE BILLING. UH, WOULDN'T THAT BE, BECAUSE I KNOW USES THE CALENDAR REPORTS, WOULDN'T THAT BE EASIER IF THOSE CODES ARE BUILT? THEY ARE, THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS JUST, JUST THE CODES ARE THERE. IT'S, IT'S NOT THE CODE SECTION. IT'S WHEN YOU START YOUR NARRATIVE THAT THEY WANT SPECIFIC WORDS TO GO WITH THOSE CODES THAT YOU'VE PICKED IS, IF YOU DON'T COORDINATE THE TWO TOGETHER, THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THOSE DON'T MATCH, THROW IT OUT. SO THAT'S IT. JUST TEACHING THEM. OKAY. IF YOU PICK CARDIAC ARREST, YOU NEED TO HIT THESE KEY INDICATORS IN YOUR NARRATIVE REPORT TO CONVINCE THAT. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. I THINK, OKAY. ANY OTHER MR. ZIBO? YEAH, JUST A COUPLE POINTS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO WE HAVE TO GET CERTIFIED FOR MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND THEN THE PRIVATE PAY. SO, I MEAN, IT'S A PROCESS TO DO THAT AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. IT'S, IT'S PRETTY INVOLVED, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY HIRING A PROFESSIONAL THAT CAN DO A LOT OF THAT BILLING FOR US. AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, JUST ANSWER MR. WHITE'S QUESTION, WE ARE GOING TO PUT MS UH, OLIVER, OUR BUSINESS LICENSE EXTRAORDINAIRE. SHE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BILLING SYSTEM. SO WE DEFINITELY WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE COLLECT WHAT THE COUNCIL BELIEVES IS AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT AND, UH, PER OUR FEE SCHEDULE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. IMPRESSIVE. AND LIKE HE SAID, THE COLLETON IS GONNA HELP US GET ALL OF THOSE, THE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, ALL THOSE SET UP. SO THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE. THEY'VE DONE IT A HUNDRED TIMES. THEY SAID, SO THEY'RE ARE GONNA HELP US. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE ALSO PICKED THEM, IS THEY, THEY REALIZE THAT WE'RE A NEW EMS SERVICE AND THEY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP Y'ALL GET ALL THOSE SQUARED AWAY. SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY IN ONE YEAR'S TIME. YEAH. YES, SIR. PROUD OF YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I CALL THE QUESTION? GOOD JOB. OKAY. I'D LIKE A MOTION NOW TO APPROVE THIS, APPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A, UM, MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX D. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. UM, AND I THINK I MISSED SOMETHING. I'LL NOW OPEN IT ALSO UP TO THE PUBLIC. DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, I HAVE ONE THING, MR. MAYOR. YES. UM, THE 5, 9 5, I DID TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT PERCENTAGE RATE, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE A NEW SERVICE AND THE UNKNOWN OF HOW MANY CALLS THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BILL, THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. THEY SAID, AS THEY GET SOME DATA IN, AND AS OUR CALL VOLUME INCREASES, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA COME DOWN AS WELL. SO THAT'LL BE EVERY YEAR WE WILL REEVALUATE THAT AND MAYBE START GETTING, BRINGING THAT DOWN TOO. SO THAT'LL HELP US COLLECT A LITTLE MORE MONEY FOR US. OH, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. YES, SIR. NICE. ADD ON. THANK YOU. ALL THE GOOD NEWS. YEAH. . OKAY. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER E, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNCIL, ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL FOR MCMILLAN P SMITH OF CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA TO CONDUCT THE SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. THIS IS, UH, RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX E. MR. DAVIS, YOU GONNA HANDLE THIS ONE? YES, SIR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. HELLO, EVERYONE. UM, FIRST I HAVE TO SAY, I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED THIS TIME OF DAY AS IF I COULD SAY, UM, GOOD EVENING OR GOOD AFTERNOON. SO MAYBE IF THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE A RULING BETWEEN LIKE FIVE AND SIX, IS THAT AFTERNOON OR EVENING? MR. MR. DAVIS, I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THE OLD PEOPLE ARE ON THIS SIDE OF THE DAY AND BE ON THAT SIDE OF [03:25:01] THE THIS, I MEAN, REALLY, I'M, I'M, I'M AT A LOSS, BUT ANYWAY. OKAY. GREETINGS. UH, IT IS, UH, NOW OFFICIALLY EVENING. I SEE IT'S SIX O'CLOCK. ALRIGHT. 6 0 1. GOOD EVENING. YOU CAN SAY GOOD EVENING. OKAY. UM, YEAH, SO AS YOU SAID, UH, THIS IS A, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, UH, LET US ENTER IN A CONTRACT WITH MCMILLAN PEA AND SMITH TO CONDUCT A SPACE NEEDS STUDY, AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL OUR FACILITIES. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY ATTRACTED ME WHEN I CAME HERE TO HARVILLE WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE CITY'S GROWING. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS THIS EVENING, BUT ALSO THE ORGANIZATION'S GROWING. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE SPACE FOR PEOPLE AS WELL. AND THAT'S PART OF THIS. SO, OR A BIG PART OF THIS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD MONEY IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR TO ENGINEER AND DESIGN, UH, A NEW CITY HALL, EXPANDED CITY HALL, WHATEVER THE CASE WAS GONNA BE. BUT THEN WE KIND OF TOOK A STEP BACK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE, NOT JUST IN THIS BUILDING, BUT ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS. SO WE DID THAT AND WE PUT OUT AN RFQ TO, TO DO THAT ANALYSIS. AND WE HAD THREE RESPONDENTS. UH, WE HAD A AD HOC COMMITTEE AND WE, WE GRADED THEM, SCORED THEM. AND WE INTERVIEWED IN PERSON THE, UH, TOP TWO SCORES. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO WITH, UM, MCMILLAN P AND SMITH. UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT ALL THESE FACILITIES. THEY'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW STAFF, ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEY'RE GONNA, THERE'S A PUBLIC OUTREACH COMPONENT. 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUTSIDE USERS AS WELL. THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THEM, UM, AND TALK TO THEM AND, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY USE OUR FACILITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL, OTHER BUILDINGS AS WELL. SO THAT'S ALL GOOD. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE'RE ALSO GONNA GET A TOOL, A WEB-BASED TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE LIKE A SCORING MATRIX FOR ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TOP TO BOTTOM. WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN OUR BUILDINGS? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT DOES THE HVAC SYSTEM LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THE ROOF LOOK LIKE, KIND OF WINDOWS. DO WE HAVE ALL THAT STUFF? YOU KNOW, MR. BROWN AND HIS TEAM REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION ALL IN ONE SPOT. AND THIS WILL BE A, A PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN GET INTO AND EDIT AND, AND REALLY HELP OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AS WE GO FORWARD AND BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. UH, I THINK THIS IS GONNA POINT THE DIRECTION, UH, FOR HARDY V FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR OUR FACILITIES. AND, UM, SO WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET STARTED. UH, BRIAN FESSLER WITH MCMILLAN PEAS AND SMITH IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF THE FIRM OR I'LL ENTER, I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVEN'T. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE START WITH MR. CARROLL THIS TIME. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MATT. UM, IF, UM, YOU THINK THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME SPACE ISSUES AND WHATEVER, AND I KNOW MR. BROWN'S GOT HIS HANDS FULL, UM, EVERY DAY. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL RECOMMEND THAT AND MIKE GOES ALONG, THAT'S FINE. NO QUESTIONS. MR. WHITE. MATT, BEYOND THE INTERVIEWING THAT YOU DO WITH STAFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY MUST HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY AND SOME SOFTWARE KINDS OF THINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A REAL ADVANTAGE TO HAVE CUTTING EDGE SOFTWARE AND SPACE PLANNING AND THIS KIND OF THING. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? NOT, AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING THEIR COMPETENCE. I'M, I'M DOING THIS MORE TO SEE THE GOOD CHOICE AND EXACTLY HOW SOFTWARE AND TECHNOLOGY ENTERS INTO THIS BEYOND SORT OF THE INTERVIEW KIND OF THING. TO BE QUITE FRANK WITH YOU, I THINK MR. FESS WILL BE A, A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I MEAN, THEY'RE THE EXPERTS, THEY'RE THE ARCHITECTS, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN ANSWER THAT MUCH BETTER THAN ME. SO I'LL INVITE HIM UP HERE IF IT'S OKAY. SURE. GOOD EVENING. UM, WELCOME. SO IN REGARDS TO THE SOFTWARE QUESTION, WHAT WE WOULD, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE LEVELS FROM THE FACILITIES ION, UH, ASSESSMENTS, SOFTWARE TOOLS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE ASSESSMENT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE DATA THAT'S ACTIONABLE. SO FOR A PARTICULAR FACILITY, YOU MIGHT REALIZE THAT THE, THERE IS A EXPECTED FIVE YEAR LEFT, FIVE YEARS LEFT ON A ROOF OR A MECHANICAL SYSTEM. SO THAT CAN GIVE YOU SOME FORWARD THINKING TO BUDGET FOR FUTURE ONGOING MAINTENANCE FOR THE FACILITIES YOU HAVE. DOES THAT ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS? UH, CAN WE, BEFORE, UH, WE GO ANY FURTHER, WOULD YOU PLEASE FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS BRIAN FESSLER. I'M AN ARCHITECT WITH MCMILLAN PS AND SMITH. AND, UH, YOUR POSITION WITH MCMILLAN AND WHAT? UH, ARCHITECT. ARCHITECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, MR. WHITE, ANYTHING THAT, THAT'S ENCOURAGING BECAUSE THERE'S AN ART TO THIS BEYOND INTERVIEWING PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT YOU HAVE THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOT OF THIS DATA AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING THAT GIVES US PRETTY RELIABLE PREDICTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS [03:30:01] AND PROCESSES. AND FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING, YEAH, WE DO. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MAKES US, THE REASON WHY PEOPLE LIKE MATT WANT TO CHOOSE US. SO, SO THAT WOULD COVER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COVER THINGS FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINTS SPACE, NEEDS DEPARTMENT GROWTH. WE ALSO COVER BUILDING ENVELOPE, WINDOWS, ROOFS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEN THERE'S THE OTHER COMPONENT, UH, THAT'S THE ENGINEERING PART. SO WE HAVE ENGINEERS, UH, AS PART OF OUR TEAM AS WELL THAT CAN EVALUATE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS. EVERY PART OF THE BUILDING HAS A USEFUL, SOME OF 'EM ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS AND SOME ARE MORE COSTLY THAN OTHERS TO REPLACE. SO WHAT, WHAT IT SAYS TO ME, YOU HAVE THE ART OF DOING IT AND THE SCIENCE OF DOING IT. AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. YEP. AND, UM, AND, UM, WE, WE'LL PRESENT THE DATA. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN PUT IT IN PDF REPORTS, BUT THERE'LL ALSO BE A, UH, ONLINE TOOL THAT ANYONE FROM THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY NEEDS TO LOOK AT CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE THAT KIND OF LIVE AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE ENTERING THE DATA IN THERE AND LOOKING IN WHATEVER, UH, FORMAT'S HELPFUL SO IT CAN BE EXPORTED INTO EXCEL DOCUMENTS, UH, HOWEVER THE CITY CHOOSES TO USE THAT INFORMATION. AND WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY AND THE FACILITIES PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR FINDINGS ARE AND TALK ABOUT IT MORE IN MORE LAYMAN'S TERMS. SOMETIMES THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT MAKE IT, OUR GOAL WITH THIS STUDY IS TO MAKE IT USEFUL SO THAT THE CITY CAN REALLY BE PROACTIVE AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT 5, 10, 20 YEARS OF WHAT YOU NEED FOR SPACE NEEDS IN THE FUTURE. AND, UH, ONGOING FACILITY MAINTENANCE. THANK YOU, MR. GUZMAN. UM, I HAVE, UH, NO QUESTION BECAUSE WE'LL ASK PART OF IT. SO THANK YOU MR. MESMAN. NO QUESTIONS THIS TIME. UM, I REALLY THINK THIS IS A GOOD AND NECESSARY STEP. UM, WE, WE DO NEED TO ASSESS WHERE WE NEED TO BE, BUT WHAT I WOULD JUST, UM, SAY TO MR. ZIBO, UM, I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL STILL NEEDS TO, AT SOME POINT DECIDE SIDE THE WHERE DO WE WANT TO EXPAND HERE? OR DO WE WANT TO PUT CITY HALL IN ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE RECENTLY ACQUIRED? DO WE DO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL AND MAKE THIS A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS. THE, WHERE I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE, UH, MIKE AT THIS COUNCIL LEVEL, AND I, I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE AFTER WE GET AN, AN ASSESSMENT OF NEED, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT WILL IDENTIFY LOCATIONS AND COSTS AND, AND YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, THE, WHERE IS, WHERE IS WHAT ALWAYS HAUNTS ME. HOW, WHERE SHOULD WE DO THESE THINGS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT OR ASK THE QUESTION REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? OH, YOU KNOW, I FORGOT ONE OTHER QUESTION. HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST? UH, I WAS WONDERING, YOU CAUGHT ME. NOW. UM, WE HAVE A BUDGETED AMOUNT. SO, INTERESTING ENOUGH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I RECENTLY A FEW MONTHS LEARNED IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WHEN YOU PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR QUALIFICATIONS WHERE ARCHITECTS ARE INVOLVED, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SCORE IT ON PRICE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE FIRMS, AND NOW WE WILL GET AN, WE WILL ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATION TO WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. NOW WE HAVE AN, UH, AMOUNT THAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR THIS ALREADY, BUT WE, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME TO THOSE TERMS YET. WE JUST HAVE, WE JUST MADE A RECOMMENDATION LAST WEEK, BUT WE WILL COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A NUMBER THAT WE CAN'T LIVE WITH, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT, OKAY. UM, YEAH, THAT'S, I GUESS, I GUESS THE ARCHITECT'S HAD A POWERFUL LOBBY SOMEWHERE AND GOT A LAW PASSED, SO YEAH, HE UNDERSTANDS. WE WE'RE, WE'RE A PRETTY CHEAP GOOP UP HERE. RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT SHARP PENCILS, IS THAT RIGHT? . ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. UH, AGAIN, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX E. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX E. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC BEING NONE? [03:35:01] I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT RESOLUTION, THE CITY OF HARDY, SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNCIL, ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL FROM NIGHT TOUR CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR DOOR ACCESS AND BUILDING SECURITY AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX F AND I SEE WE HAVE MR. KIMBER UP TO ANSWER TO PRESENT THIS ITEM IN PERSON. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING, ADMINISTRATION. HOW ARE Y'ALL? UH, SO THIS IS A, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S TALKED ABOUT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LINGERED A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT, IT GOT KIND OF PUSHED FAST FORWARD, UM, AT THIS TIME. SO THIS IS FOR DOOR ACCESS AND SECURITY TO, UM, HEAVY TRAFFIC AREAS OR HEAVY TRAFFIC FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY. UM, ONE, IT'S GONNA GIVE GREATER SECURITY TO THE EMPLOYEES, GREATER TRACKING. UM, AND TWO, IT'S GONNA HELP SECURE THE CITIZENS AS WELL. SO WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE FEATURES. SO THIS IS AN AUTOMATED, UH, DOOR ENTRY SYSTEM, UH, INTEGRATED WITH CAMERAS, UH, INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AS WELL. UM, THIS ONE IS NOT WORKING. WE NEED TO, THERE IT IS. OPEN THAT DOOR. UM, SO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST AN OLD DOOR PANEL, UM, THAT YOU WOULD WALK UP TO. UM, WE, WE ALL SEE SOME OF THESE OVER AT THE REC CENTER, UH, SLIGHTLY LARGER SCALE. UM, AND WITH THAT DOOR CENTER, UM, IT'S SCALABLE HERE. IT INTEGRATES WITH CAMERAS, UH, AS YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING. IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF, UM, CROPPED OFF THERE, BUT THE CAMERA WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR FACIAL RECOGNITION AS WELL. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, ONCE SOMEBODY WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR AND YOU REVIEW WHO WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ADD A NAME TO 'EM. IT'S NOT BIOMETRICS OR IT'S NOT BIG BROTHER LOOKING AFTER YOU OR ANYTHING ELSE. NOTHING REPORTING TO THE FBI. IT'S THE DATA THAT YOU ENTER BASED ON THE PERSONNEL THAT YOU ALLOW ACCESS, UM, TO CERTAIN AREAS. SO, UM, BIG THING ABOUT IT, UM, HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS HERE, UM, AND, UH, AND, AND THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW. UM, SO IT ALLOWS FOR REMOTE MANAGEMENT, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR SCALABILITY AS WELL. SO IT'S A LIMITLESS SCALE. UM, IT CAN BE ADDED TO MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AND STILL CONTROLLED WITH THE SAME, UM, CLOUD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONTROLS THE PRODUCT ITSELF. UM, DIFFERENT WAYS OF, OF ENTRY. SO THERE'S VERSATILE ACCESS METHODS, UM, WHICH THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING. SO RIGHT NOW WE USE CARDS IN, IN A COUPLE OF FACILITIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE DOOR ACCESS SYSTEM. UH, BUT, UH, WITH THIS, YOU CAN USE YOUR CELL PHONE. UM, IF YOU'RE AN AUTHORIZED USER, YOU GET A PIN CODE, IT'S PUT INTO YOUR CELL PHONE. IT'S A BLUETOOTH INDICATION. SO AS YOU WALK UP TO THE DOOR, THE DOOR RECOGNIZES YOU. SO IF YOUR HANDS ARE FULL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP, PULL OUT A CARD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL OUT YOUR WALLET. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL OUT A KEY TO UNLOCK THE DOOR. ONCE YOU STOP IN FRONT OF THE DOOR, IT'LL ACTUALLY AUTOMATICALLY UNLOCK THE DOOR FOR YOU. UM, 'CAUSE IT VALIDATES WHO YOU ARE THROUGH THAT UNIQUE PEN, UH, THROUGH ENCRYPTED COMMUNICATION ON BLUETOOTH, UH, TO THE DEVICE. ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CAMERAS, ONCE YOU REGISTER THE PERSONNEL WITH THE CAMERAS, WITH THE FACIAL RECOGNITION, IF THE CAMERA SEES YOU WALKING UP TO THE DOOR AND YOU'RE AUTHORIZED ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY, IT WILL UNLOCK THE DOOR FOR YOU AUTOMATICALLY AS WELL. UM, ALSO THE, THE LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THE SECURITY SIDE IS, UH, LOCKIN OR LOCKOUT PROCEDURES. SO IF THERE WERE, UH, ANY EMERGENCIES, ACTIVE SHOOTERS, UH, ANY THREATS TO THE STAFF, ANY THREATS TO THE CITIZENS, UM, WE HAVE LOCKIN AND LOCKOUT PROCEDURES. AND ALONG WITH THEM LOCK IN AND LOCKOUT PROCEDURES, WE HAVE THE ANALYTICS BEHIND IT BECAUSE IT DOES KEEP AN, UH, A COPY OF WHO'S ACTUALLY INSIDE THE BUILDING. SO YOU CAN DO AN INVENTORY OF PERSONNEL, UM, BASED ON THE BLUETOOTH SWIPES OR THE FACIAL RECOGNITION OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN. IF IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE 'EM LEAVING, IT'LL HAVE 'EM INSIDE THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU NEED THE INVENTORY, YOUR PERSONNEL, INVENTORY, YOUR STAFF, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SECURE, IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, WITH THE STAFF AS WELL. SO, UM, IT'S CONTROLLED THROUGH ACTIVE DIRECTORY. NO NEED TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, UM, BEHIND THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST ASSIGNING PERMISSIONS AND SENDING, SENDING THOSE PERMISSIONS TO THE DIFFERENT DEVICES FOR THE FACILITIES THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED ACCESS TO. UM, ALONG WITH THIS, UM, WE TALK ABOUT VENDOR CONTROL AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD CONTROL OVER VENDORS. WE GIVE 'EM THE KEY CODE TO THE DOOR, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS GOT THE KEY CODE TO THE DOOR FOR THE LITTLE PUNCH CODES. WELL, NOW WE CAN REGULATE, OKAY, VENDOR X, YOU HAVE [03:40:01] ACCESS FROM 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM ON CERTAIN CERTAIN DAYS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOUR PROJECT'S OVER WITH IN 10 DAYS. 10 DAYS YOUR ACCESS IS, UM, EXPIRES. UM, SO WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, OVER VENDORS, UM, AND SO WE CAN KEEP THEM FROM GOING INTO, UM, SENSITIVE AREAS WITHIN, WITHIN THE CITY. SO, AND THAT'S THE CRATE AND SCHEDULE IN THE GROUPS, UH, THAT I JUST JUST MENTIONED IN FILTERING THE ACCESS CONTROL AS WELL. UM, SO ANOTHER THING, SO A THING CALLED TAILGATING WHERE ONE PERSON OPENS THE DOOR FOR ANOTHER PERSON AND, UM, IT'LL ACTUALLY SEND ALERTS TO WHOEVER THE OVERSEER IS, WHICH WILL BE THE IT DEPARTMENT AT THIS, AT THIS POINT. UM, THAT THERE'S A TAILGATE EVENT THAT HAPPENED AT DOOR X. AND WE CAN REVIEW THAT TAILGATE EVENT TO SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S AUTHORIZED TO BE IN THAT AREA. OR, UM, IS IT SOMEBODY THAT JUST TAILGATED IN THE DOOR? WE CAN ALERT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. UM, WE CAN ALERT THE E 9 1 1 SERVICES AND TAKE ANY ACTION THAT, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE AT THAT POINT, UM, BASED ON THAT TAILGATE EVENT. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT YOU CAN TAG AS WELL. TAILGATING IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE RECEIVED THE PROACTIVE ALERTS. UM, SO THIS AGREEMENT IS, UH, A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. UM, I HAVE DEMOED THE PRODUCT. UH, SO WE DEMOED THE PRODUCT OVER AT THE EOC BUILDING, UH, WITH THE CAMERAS. UH, ANOTHER GOOD THING WITH THE CAMERAS AS WELL, SO IF WE'RE SEARCHING FOR INDIVIDUALS, UM, IT DOES HAVE A KEYWORD SEARCH. SO WE, WE WENT IN THERE AND WE SAID, OH, WE NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY WITH A RED SHIRT AND A BLACK BACKPACK. WE CAN TYPE IN RED SHIRT, BLACK BACKPACK, VIDEO GOES EXACTLY TO THAT POINT. HERE THEY ARE. THIS IS THE TIME THAT THEY CAME IN, THIS IS THE TIME THAT THEY LEFT. THIS IS THE AREA THAT THEY LEFT. UH, SO IF, UH, IT'LL ASSIST WITH SOME POLICE INVESTIGATIONS FOR UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS, BUT ALSO, AGAIN, ACCOUNTABILITY OF PERSONNEL. SO I OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS A, A FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT. WE HAVE BUDGETED, UM, BETWEEN FY 23 AND FY TWENTY FOUR, A HUNDRED EIGHTY 5,000. WE WILL COME IN WELL BELOW, UM, THAT NUMBER, UH, TO ACTUALLY GET THIS COMPLETED. SO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MR. MESMAN, LET'S START WITH YOU NOW. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR AT THIS TIME. UH, SO ALL THE PARTS ARE AVAILABLE, UH, SO 30 TO 60 DAYS FROM THE TIME WE SIGN A UH, PO. JAMES, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY YOU'VE SELECTED. THEY, THEY SEEM IMPRESSIVE TO ME IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, THIS ISN'T THEIR FIRST DAY AT THE RODEO. YEP. SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES. SO THE ONE COMPANY IS ADA. THEY ACTUALLY PRODUCE ALL THE HARDWARE, UM, THAT'S INVOLVED HERE AND THE SOFTWARE BEHIND THE TECHNOLOGY AND, AND THE AI BEHIND THE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL. UM, THEY'RE OUTTA CALIFORNIA, BUT THEY ARE WELL KNOWN IN THE US THEY'RE INDUSTRY TOP OF THE INDUSTRY FOR PROVIDING SECURITY, FOR BUILDING SECURITY ACCESS AND BUILDING SECURITY VIDEO SURVEILLANCE. UM, THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THE INSTALLATION IS AN AUTHORIZED VENDOR, UH, OF ADA. UM, AND, UH, THEY HAVE OVER 18 YEARS EXPERIENCE, UH, DOING INSTALLATIONS FOR ADA PRODUCTS ONLY. UH, SO, UH, THEY WERE RECOMMENDED BY VADA. WE DID REVIEW THREE OTHER, UM, EVENTS AS WELL. UH, ONE WITH HOWARD TECHNOLOGIES AND A COUPLE OTHERS. UH, THE PRICE WAS OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGET RANGE, SO, UM, IT MADE IT AN EASY DECISION TO GO WITH ADA AND THE FACT THAT THEY GAVE US A DEMO, I AM, AND I STILL HAVE THE DEMO UP IN THE EOC, UM, BUT THEY GAVE US A 30 DAY DEMO, BUT THEY SAID, HERE, HERE, KEEP IT. I'VE HAD IT UP FOR OVER 60 DAYS DEMO IN IT. SO, SOUNDS LIKE THE WHITE HOUSE COULD USE THESE GUYS. . WHY JOHN? UM, I GUESS THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW. I'M, I'M GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION. I GUESS MIKE KNOWS WHAT I'M GONNA ASK, BUT DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH COUNCIL CHAMBER SECURITY? SO, UM, THAT IS, UH, COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. SO WE DO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE DID COME IN UNDER BUDGET AS FAR AS THE CAMERAS AND THE DOOR ACCESS SYSTEM ITSELF. SO WE HAVE AVAILABILITY, UM, TO ADD TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ITSELF. BUT WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE CAMERAS IN THE HALLWAYS AT THE ENTRANCES THROUGH BASICALLY THROUGH EVERY DOOR THAT HAS A KEYPAD RIGHT NOW, PLUS EVERY EXTERIOR ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING, THERE'LL BE A CAMERA FACING THOSE DOORS. SO BOTH HALLWAYS, THERE'LL BE TWO CAMERAS FRONT, BACK, SIDE TO SIDE. AND ALSO THIS BACK ENTRANCE HERE. UM, THERE'LL BE A CAMERA HERE AS WELL. I WAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WAS THE WINDOWS, BUT I GUESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO. 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR AT LEAST EIGHT, 10 MONTHS. WELL, UM, YEAH, THE BULLETPROOF GLASS STUFF WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. UM, BUT I'VE BEEN GUARANTEED THAT, UH, WE CAN HAVE THIS DONE WITHIN 30 TO 60 DAYS. UM, ALL THE PARTS ARE AVAILABLE AND ALL THE PARTS ARE IN STOCK. [03:45:02] UM, UH, LEMME START WITH THE COST. YES, SIR. I'M LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE IN, IN FRONT OF ME AT $161,000 AND YOU SAID THIS IS A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. IS THIS $161,000 AND WE'RE DONE? OR IS THIS $161,000 A YEAR? SO WE'RE 161,000 AND WE'RE DONE. THAT'S A FIVE YEAR LICENSE AND A FIVE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION FOR ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE. OKAY. UM, UH, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL COST THAT WOULD COME WITH ANY OF THIS IS IF WE PURCHASED, IF WE WANTED TO PURCHASE MORE BADGES. BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW AS IS WHENEVER WE HIRE AN EMPLOYEE, BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT EMPLOYEE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BADGE ON THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE IDENTIFIED. SO, I, I HAVE NO OBJECTION. I, I THINK IT'S A NICE SYSTEM AND GOOD SECURITY, BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, WHAT MR. CARROLL SAID. AND, AND I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS GONNA SAY, AND I'M GLAD HE DID. THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN ASKING FOR IMPROVED SECURITY ON THIS ROOM FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND $161,000 ON, ON SECURITY AND STILL NOT HAVE THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST TO FIX THIS. UH, AND, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL WHEN, WITH THIS, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ASK WITH THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO BECOME MORE SECURE. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD, UH, JOHN, MR. BROWN HAS, UH, STEPPED OUT. WE'RE HAVING SOME HEAT AND AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN FEEL IT UP THERE, BUT WE CAN FEEL IT IN THE BACK. SO HE'S WORKING ON THOSE. UM, WE JUST TODAY RECEIVED A PO, THE, THE, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED FOR THE BULLETPROOF GLASS AND SO FORTH IS NOW GOING TO BE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. SO THAT PO CAME TO FINANCE LATE THIS AFTERNOON. SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE ISSUES, BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG THINGS HAS BEEN AVAILABILITY AND ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO GET THE PARTS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO DO THAT. AND THAT IS PROGRESSING AND, AND YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING WITH THAT. I WOULD CAN'T SPEAK FOR MR. BROWN, BUT LIKE I SAY, FROM A FINANCE STANDPOINT, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAPERWORK TYPE STUFF STARTING TO HAPPEN ON THAT. I, I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED ITS CONCERN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, I KNOW EVEN YEARS AGO THEY'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, PANIC BUTTONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, A BULLETPROOF WINDOW COMES UP IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. I MEAN, WE'RE BASED ON THE CRAZINESS OF THIS WORLD, THE FIVE, UH, NOT FIVE, THE NINE OF US THAT SIT UP HERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY EXPOSED AND THAT'S WHY THE COUNCIL ASKED TO HAVE GREATER SECURITY. SO, UH, WE IS, IT'S JUST A REMINDER. I KNOW THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS, BUT THAT IT STILL REMAINS A PRIORITY FOR THIS COUNCIL. AM AM I RIGHT, COUNSEL? YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, JUST AS AN ADDITION, BECAUSE WE ARE WELL UNDER BUDGET, UH, FOR WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT TO ADD TWO EXTRA DOORS FOR THE LOCK IN LOCKOUT PROCEDURES, WHICH WILL BE THESE TWO DOORS HERE, BECAUSE THIS'S ONE, WE ALREADY HAVE IT ON IT. UM, AND TO GIVE ACCESS TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSONNEL BEING COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATION, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HIT THAT PANIC BUTTON ON THAT APP TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOCK IN OR LOCKOUT PROCEDURE, WE CAN VERY WELL DO THAT ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE COME IN WELL UNDER BUDGET. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. UH, MR. MAYOR, I, YES, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SINCE THIS IS A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, IS THERE A PRICE FOR AFTER FIVE YEARS TO, FOR THE SOFTWARE? I MEAN, DOES IS THE EQUIPMENT, UH, GOOD FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS? SO, UM, AS ANYTHING WITH TECHNOLOGY, THINGS, THINGS ADVANCE, UM, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. I MEAN, EVEN FROM TODAY TO TOMORROW, UM, THIS COMPANY IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY DO DESIGN. THE SOFTWARE ITSELF WILL BECOME PROBABLY MORE ROBUST QUICKER THAN THE ACTUAL HARDWARE APPLIANCES. MM-HMM. AND BE ABLE TO DO MORE AS FAR AS AI. UM, AND, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S SEEING AI ON, ON THE NEWS AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM. . SO IT'LL, THE SOFTWARE ITSELF WILL PROBABLY BE, BE ABLE TO DO MORE FASTER THAN THE HARDWARE ITSELF WILL INCREASE. UM, CAMERAS ARE PRETTY MUCH CAMERAS. I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING FOR STUFF THAT'S ON DRONES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME REAL HIGH TECHNOLOGY THERE. UH, SO, UM, IT'S HARD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT THERE WILL BE A REPLACEMENT PLAN. UH, THAT LIFECYCLE WILL PROBABLY END AFTER FIVE YEARS TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THE HARDWARE. NOW, AS FAR AS THE DOOR STRIKES AND THE DOOR STRIKES SHOULD BE VIABLE FOR, FOR [03:50:01] MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, BUT THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES, THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL DEFINITELY CHANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES. ONE MORE QUESTION, JAMES. AND, UH, IT JUST, IT JUST HIT ME WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE, UM, VIDEO. NOW WE HAVE, UM, LIKE, UM, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, HURRICANES, THINGS LIKE THAT. NOW SUPPOSE, UM, WE LOSE POWER. I NOTICED THAT EVERYTHING WAS POWER SECURED TO GET IN THESE DOORS AND SOFTWARE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE POWER GOES OUT? UH, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO PART OF THE INSTALLATION PACKAGE IS, UM, THAT, SO THERE'S A SEPARATE CONTROLLER FOR EACH FACILITY IDENTIFIED. NO, BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T MENTION THOSE FACILITIES, BUT THE HIGH TRAFFIC FACILITIES BEING THE COURT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE EOC FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. UM, CITY HALL, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PEOPLE FLOW IN AND OUTTA CITY HALL AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE THE SCHOOL, UM, THE TEACHING FACILITY BACK THERE AT PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THOSE PEOPLE FROM GOING IN THE WRONG AREAS WHENEVER THEY DO DO. SO THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW FOR THE DOOR ACCESS. THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW WITH JOHNSTON CONTROL. SO WE'RE GONNA LET THAT CONTRACT PLAY OUT BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES OVER THERE POTENTIALLY. UM, SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO EACH BUILDING HAS A CONTROLLER AND EACH BUILDING, WE'LL ALSO HAVE A BATTERY BACKUP ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THEN THERE ARE EMERGENCY, UM, UNLOCKED PROCEDURES FOR THE DOORS, UH, AS FAR AS THE STRIKES THAT ARE ON THE DOOR AS WELL. SO. GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX F. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX F. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? JUST ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. UM, I WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ANSWER. , UH, MATT WANTS TO BE THE OLD GUY. YOU WANNA BE THE QUESTIONER? I MEAN, COME ON. JUST, JUST BEFORE YOU KNOW IF, IF THIS GETS APPROVED HERE, UM, DO WE DO WANT TO ADD THE TWO ENTRANCE DOORS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR SECURITY PURPOSES TO THIS, UM, AGREEMENT COUNCIL? UM, YES. YES. YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK THE GENERAL FEELING OF COUNCIL IS YES. OKAY. AND WE'LL STILL BE UNDER BUDGET WITH THOSE TWO DOORS ADDED. JUST OH, GOOD. WELL, I, I THOUGHT HE, THEY'D JUST THROW THAT IN FOR FREE. OKAY. UM, THANKS JAMES. VERY, VERY NICE. SO, UM, NOW YOU THREW ME OFF. DID WE TAKE A VOTE YET? NO. NO. UH, SO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY PUBLIC OR COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS IT DONE YET? UM, NEXT IS ITEM G, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARDY, ACCEPTING THE BID FROM EMC ENGINEERING SERVICES. SAVANNAH, GEORGIA AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR VARIOUS VEHICLE PARKING LOTS AND PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS. UM, MS. MCMAHON, I, I, UH, I GUESS YOU'RE TAKING THIS ITEM. I AM. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL STAFF. SO THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU EXPLAINS THE NINE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LUMPING INTO ONE PROJECT. IT'S FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND THIS FIRST PAGE SHOWS YOU LOCATION NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS AT OUR REC CENTER. AND I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT. WHERE IS MY LITTLE, OKAY. IN THE BACK OF THE REC CENTER, WE HAVE AN AREA THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED, THAT WAS VALUE ENGINEERED OUT OF THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE RE WE'RE PUTTING THAT PROJECT BACK IN THE LINEUP AND FOR REASONS THAT WE'RE IN TERRIBLE NEED OF EXTRA PARKING AT THAT REC CENTER. UM, SO THAT'S OUR FIRST PROJECT, SECOND PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S KIND OF FAINT, BUT THAT YELLOW AREA DOWN AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING WILL BE PAVED. AND THEN OUR THIRD PROJECT, YOU ALL KNOW, AND OUR VERY EXCITED TO HAVE INCLUDED IS OUR BOYD STREET SIDEWALK PROJECT. AND THEN THE FOURTH LOCATION IS EVERYTHING CONCENTRATED IN OUR RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX. SO IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE THIS AREA BACK BY THE ROUNDABOUT THAT CURRENTLY IT LOOKS LIKE DIRT IN THE PICTURE, BUT IT'S GRASS THAT'LL BE PAVED. AND THERE WILL BE A BRIDGE HERE [03:55:01] IN THE GREEN. AND THAT BRIDGE WILL LEAD TO THIS NEW AREA THAT IS PART OF THE ACQUISITION ON RANDALL STREET. SO IT'S GONNA EXPAND OUR PARKING DRASTICALLY. UM, AND THEN THE YELLOW AREA HERE SHOWS A NEW FENCE THAT WILL HELP US GATE THAT OFF SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE THAT OR LOCK IT AT NIGHT. AND THEN IF WE GO ON TO THE PROJECT NEXT TO OUR EXISTING BASKETBALL COURT HERE, THIS ENTIRE AREA BETWEEN THE DOG PART AND THE BASKETBALL CART, THAT THAT'LL ALL LOOK AT PAVED. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE THE PAVING, UH, HERE. THAT'LL BE ADDITIONAL, UH, DIAGONAL PARKING, WHICH IT EXISTS OUT THERE. NOW WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING WHAT WE HAVE. UM, FOR ADA COMPLIANCE, WE NEED TO ADD SIDEWALK AROUND THE FOOTBALL FIELD TO ALLOW FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO REACH THE BLEACHERS. AND THEN IN THE FRONT OF THE PARKING AREA, RIGHT HERE IS A LITTLE YELLOW SPOT THAT'S CRACKED IN, IN DIRE NEED OF BEING REPLACED. AND SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PROJECT. UM, THE LAST SECTION BACK BY THE, UH, THE CONCESSION AREA. YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE YELLOW LINE HERE THAT, THAT'S AN AMBULANCE DRIVEWAY THAT'LL GET PAVED. AND THEN THERE IS YET ANOTHER PARKING LOT, OUR EXISTING PARKING LOT IN THIS AREA THAT CURRENTLY HAS PAVING, BUT IT NEEDS REPLACED. AND SO THOSE ARE OUR NINE PROJECTS IN FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. UM, HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR SCORE SHEET, WHICH IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THAT UP, SEE IF IT GOES. NOPE. THERE IT IS. SO WE HAD A COMMITTEE, UM, A LITTLE HARD TO READ, BUT WE HAD A COMMITTEE MEET AND WE HAD SIX DESIGN PROFESSIONALS SUBMIT ON THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS A GREAT TURNOUT. IT'S A SIGN OF THE, THE CHANGING TIMES. UH, THE SIX DESIGN PROFESSIONALS ARE LISTED AT THE TOP OF OUR SCORE SHEET. OUR COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH AND WE EVALUATED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA, AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER FOR EACH SUBMITTAL WAS 37 POINTS. SO HOW DO I GO DOWN? CAN YOU, YEAH, THERE WE GO. UH, YOU CAN SEE WHAT EACH ONE OF THE FIRM'S PROPOSAL TOTALED AND TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD APPLES, FOR APPLES, I HAVE HERE ALL OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THEIR PROPOSAL. UM, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE LOWEST BID, AND WE CERTAINLY DID NOT RECOMMEND THE HIGHEST BID. WE WENT WITH EMC ENGINEERING, WHO WE FEEL IS GIVING A TOTAL PACKAGE AT A VERY FAIR PRICE. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, AT THE BOTTOM, EMC CAME IN AT 118 POINTS. OUR HIGHEST WAS WARD EDWARDS AT 1 21, BUT THESE THREE WERE VERY CLOSE. AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. I NOTICED THAT THIS, EXCUSE ME, LET'S, UH, GO WITH MR. MESMAN FIRST. IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE STAFF HAS DONE A VERY DILIGENT JOB IN, UH, RESEARCHING THESE FIRMS. I I THINK YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. OKAY, MRS. GUZMAN, NO QUESTION ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. MR. WHITE. THE NEGRO BIEBER, UH, I NOTICED THIS IS IN 2023, 2024 FOR YOUR BUDGET YEAR. IN TERMS OF WHEN THIS ACTUALLY ALL GETS STARTED, I, I ASSUME SOON, BUT WHEN DOES, WHEN'S THE COMPLETION TARGET FOR THESE PROJECTS? SO THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS, THERE'S MONEY THAT'S SLATED IN THE 2023 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. AND IN THE 2024 FISCAL YEAR, UM, IF WE GET OUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH HIRING EMC ENGINEERING, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THEM AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO START DESIGN. SO, AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, THE DESIGN PROCESS, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT, WE GO THROUGH OUR PERMITTING AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT FOR BID FOR CONTRACTORS TO COME IN AND, UM, START CONSTRUCTION. SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT DESIGN COULD BE COMPLETE IN SIX MONTHS. AND THEN IF WE AWARD CONTRACT TO A CONTRACTOR WITHIN THE SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTH PERIOD, THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION AT THAT TIME. YEP. MR. CARROLL THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'VE, I, I'VE BEEN THINKING FOR A WHILE 'CAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH REC CENTER AND I KNOW JEN, UM, NEEDS SPACE. SOMETIMES IT'S A PARKING'S A AT A PREMIUM, UM, AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS TOO. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU. YEAH, COUPLING ALL OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS INTO ONE YEAH. MAKES IT A MUCH MORE DESIRABLE PROJECT FOR I THINK SO NOT JUST THE DESIGN TEAMS, [04:00:01] BUT OUR CONTRACTORS AS WELL GET BETTER PRICING. UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, ON LOOKING AT ALL THE SERVICES DOWN HERE, NOT JUST FOR THE ONE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, BUT FROM EVERYTHING, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE UN UH, EXCLUDED. FOR INSTANCE, GEOTECHNICAL AND, AND SURVEY, ET CETERA. SO ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED AND WILL THAT MAKE THE PRICE HIGHER IF WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT WE YEAH. FROM SOMEBODY ELSE? IN FACT, WE, WE EXCLUDED GEOTECHNICAL AND SURVEY FROM THE RFP FOR REASONS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ARCHIVE SURVEY INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T NEED ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. NOW, DO WE HAVE IT ON ALL NINE? NO, BUT WE, WE FELT IT WAS EASIER FOR US TO GO DIRECT TO OUR SURVEY COMPANY, WHICH WE HAVE MULTIPLE PRE-QUALIFIED SURVEY CONSULTANTS. SO YES, THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE DOWN THE ROAD IF IT'S REQUIRED. BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR RECORDS TO BE SUFFICE AND THEN GEOTECHNICAL CASE BY CASE BASIS. SOME AREAS MAY NEED IT, SOME AREAS DO NOT. SO ON THE ONE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, THE THINGS LIKE, UH, GEOTECHNICAL AND SURVEY THAT ARE EXCLUDED, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE NEEDING THOSE TWO ITEMS. NOT ON EVERY ONE OF THE PROJECTS, BUT MAYBE ON A COUPLE. YES. OKAY. SO, AND THAT'S, AND THERE'S POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL COST HERE. MINIMAL, YES. A A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF COSTS. OKAY. UM, MY NEXT COMMENT IS SOMEWHAT LIKE THE LAST ITEM WE HAVE. AND THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OTHER SIDEWALK PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY BOYD STREET, AND THAT'S LINGERED FOR A COUPLE YEARS. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA DO BACK THERE AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE STILL THE THINGS WE ASKED FOR TWO YEARS AGO AND NOT DONE. BUT NOW, THINGS THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT NECESSARY AND THEY'RE NOT A GOOD PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING PUT BEFORE SOMETHING WE ASKED FOR A COUPLE YEARS AGO. SO, UH, I, I'D LIKE TO, IF I COULD, IF I COULD, I, I'LL GIVE YOU THE HISTORY THAT I HAVE IN THE YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. BOYD STREET HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. UH, THE DIFFICULTY WAS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL PROJECT, A LOT OF THE DESIGNERS WERE NOT PRIORITIZING THAT FOR US. AND WE HAD HIRED A FIRM TO DO THREE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, OF WHICH WHEN WE GOT THOSE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS BACK, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONFLICTS IN THAT AREA. AND SO IT MADE THE DECISION MAKING AND THE COST EXPENSE, UH, A LITTLE LENGTHIER PROCESS THAN WE HAD HOPED. BUT THEN FINDING CONTRACTORS FOR SMALL PROJECTS HAS BECOME AN ABSOLUTE NO. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST NOT RESPONDING. WE HAVE A LARGE TRAIL PROJECT THAT'S GETTING PAVING AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A SEVEN, $800,000 AWARD FOR OUR CONTRACTOR. AND WE HAD ONE CONTRACTOR BID THAT. SO THE REASON BOYD STREET WAS SO DIFFICULT TO GET COMPLETED IS JUST THE SIZE OF IT WASN'T DESIRABLE OR THE FIRM. SO LET ME ASK SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS OBVIOUS TO ME IF THAT'S A PROBLEM, INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING NINE ITEMS ON THIS PROJECT, WHY DON'T WE ADD 10 AND PUT BOYD STREET AS PART OF IT NOW YOU GOT A BIGGER PROJECT. OH, IT IS PART OF IT. IT IS ON. OKAY. OH, OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. I'M SORRY. NOPE, THAT'S FINE. IT'S, IT'S JET LAG. IT'S ONE OF THE LOCATIONS AND JET LAG AND STUPIDITY. I'M SORRY. NO, NO, NO. IT'S WAS ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S UH, IT'S A LOCATION NUMBER. I MISSED THREE, WHICH, OH, SORRY. WE HAVE TO GO BACK. UM, RIGHT, SO WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IS ONE LOCATION, THE RECREATION CENTER OFF OF JOHN SMITH ROAD. BOYS STREET IS OUR THIRD LOCATION, AND OUR FOURTH LOCATION IS EVERYTHING BACK HERE BEHIND RICHARD GRAY. YEAH, SO RIGHT THERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK POST. SORRY, I TOTALLY MISSED IT. I MISSPOKE. I'M AN IDIOT. IDIOT'S FINE. SORRY, YOU'RE NOT . IT'S A LOT AND IT'S REALLY WARM IN HERE. SO MUST TAKE A VOTE ON THAT . I KNOW IT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS. OKAY. ON JET LAG. SO I, I'M GONNA AMEND MY STATEMENT. I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THE BOY STREET PROJECT AS PART OF THIS. OKAY. UM, NEXT, UH, IS PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR [04:05:01] QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX G, MR. MAYOR WITH, UM, WITH GLEE. GLEE. I MAKE A, UM, YEAH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX G. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. WELL, GLAD GLAD WE GOT PAST THAT ONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAY I ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION BEFORE YOU GO WITH, WITH NINE OR 10 PROJECTS LIKE YOU HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY ABILITY TO SORT OF SAY TO SOMEONE THAT'S GETTING A BIG PROJECT, LEVERAGING THEM TO TAKE SOME OF THESE SMALLER, LESS DESIRABLE THINGS AS PART OF THE OVERVIEW PACKAGE? DO YOU DO THAT AND DO THEY RESPOND TO THAT? I'M OR AM I JUST, YOU KNOW, NO CRAZY NO, INDEED. THIS IS, THIS IS ALL PART OF A STRATEGY. THE STRATEGY IS TO EVENTUALLY GET CONTRACTORS ON AN IDIQ OF WHICH THEY WILL RESPOND KNOWING THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BEING, UM, SHOULD I SAY, PUT IN A PIPELINE, WHICH IT, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GUARANTEE FUTURE WORK, BUT IT, IT CERTAINLY HELPS THEM FEEL AS THOUGH, HEY, IF I DO THIS LITTLE ONE, THE NEXT BIG ONE'S COMING ALONG. YEAH. SO, YEAH. AND RIGHT. PRIORITIZING ANY OF THESE NINE STARTING POINTS, UH, OBVIOUSLY BOYS STREET IS UP THERE AS A PRIORITY, SO THANK YOU. YEAH. LIKE SYNERGY. OKAY. UM, WE NEED MORE SYNERGY . ALL RIGHT. UM, NOW WE GO TO THE MANAGER'S REPORT. MR. ZIBO, PLEASE. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, JUST FOUR QUICK THINGS. SO THE COUNCIL DID RECEIVE, I KNOW IT'S LONG AWAITED, PROBABLY LONG OVERDUE, BUT THE HARDY V RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE, MR. DAVIS AND THE PLANNING FOLKS, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS OF EFFORT. SO WE DID HAND THAT TO THE COUNCIL. WE WANT, WE DO WANT HAVE A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THAT, KIND OF GO INTO THE DETAILS AND HOW WE CAN USE THAT TOOL AS WELL AS KIND OF THE STATUS OF FIRE STATION 82 AND, UH, GIVE THE COUNCIL UPDATE ON WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THAT. SO, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS. UM, NEXT FRIDAY AT 9:00 AM WE'RE GONNA HOST A DELEGATION FROM TEXAS CITY, TEXAS. I'VE, UH, TALKED TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT THAT. THEY'RE GONNA BE THE, OR THEY'RE CONSIDERING ANOTHER, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE FOURTH, RIGHT? 1, 2, 3 FOURTH OR FIFTH LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE. SO THEY WANNA TALK TO US ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES AND WHAT TO EXPECT AND ABOUT MOVING FORWARD. SO THAT'S, THAT'S NEXT FRIDAY. THE MAYOR WILL BE HERE TO, TO GREET THE TEXAS CITY MAYORS. SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. WE DID HAVE A VERY GOOD MEETING WITH, UH, B-J-W-S-A TODAY, UH, LONG AWAITED. WE HAD A LAUNDRY LIST OF ISSUES. UM, THE NEW GENERAL MANAGER, UH, WE'VE INVITED HER TO COME TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. HOPEFULLY SHE CAN ATTEND WITH US. UM, SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. MR. PAGET ALSO, WHO'S OUR REPRESENTATIVE, WILL BECOME THE CHAIR I THINK, VERY SOON. SO WE ARE KEEPING IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH HIM ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT, UM, IS GOING ON WITH B-J-W-S-A TO MAKE SURE WE CAN, UM, FACILITATE RESOLUTION TO A, A BUNCH OF LONGSTANDING PROBLEMS. AND THEN FINALLY, WE, AND I KNOW THE COUNCIL KNOWS THIS, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON ATTAINABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES. UM, SO WE ARE TRYING TO FOCUS A LOT OF EFFORTS ON THAT. MATT, MATT AND I DID HAVE A VERY GOOD, UM, MEETING WITH PULTE, WHO EXPRESSED A VERY STRONG INTEREST IN WORKING WITH US ON, ON AN ABO HOUSING FUTURE PROJECT. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU MUCH. UH, MIKE, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER, JUST JUST TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE THERE WERE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES, THAT'S, UH, FRIDAY THE 14TH WITH TEXAS CITY, TEXAS IS 9:00 AM NOT THREE. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S GO REVERSE ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND START WITH MR. WHITE TONIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I'VE BEEN DOING SOME PREPARATION FOR DIFFERENT ORDINANCES AND POLICIES. SPENT SOME TIME WITH OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY, UH, ON THE PHONE EARLIER THIS WEEK. AND, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION, PAM, FOR YOU. THESE, UM, PERSONNEL POLICY MANUAL WE HAVE, IS THIS A FINISHED POLICY OR IS THIS A DRAFT, OR IS THIS A COURTESY GIVING US A COPY OF THE NEW HR MANUAL, SO TO SPEAK? IT, I, I CAN ANSWER THAT. IT'S, IT'S THE CURRENT MANUAL THAT I MADE A COPY OF FOR YOU. OKAY. OR AN EXISTING MANUAL. SO IT'S EXISTING. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I'M REVISING THAT. OKAY. I GOT [04:10:01] IT. THANK YOU. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. UH, MR. MESMAN, UM, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING FOURTH ON MAINE AND GENERAL YEAR STAFF. AMAZING. I, I OFFERED TO HELP AND THEY GAVE ME A LITTLE JOB TO DO. I GOT TO PUT UP SOME THINGS TO THE FENCE, BUT I APPRECIATE, UH, HAVING THAT OFFER. BUT IT WAS SO WONDERFUL TO MANY FAMILIES DOWN THERE ENJOYING THE EVENT. UH, AND THE PARTICIPATION AND ATTENDANCE BY CITY STAFF WAS ALSO, UH, JUST AN AMAZING THING. WHEN, UH, I RETURNED HOME THE NEXT DAY, I FIND OUT THAT THERE WAS A WHOLE GROUP OF RESIDENTS IN MARGARITAVILLE. THEY DIDN'T COME DOWN FOR THE FIREWORKS, BUT THEY ALL TOOK THEIR GOLF CARTS DOWN TO WHAT'S PHASE SEVEN, WHICH IS NOT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AT ALL. AND THEY ALL SAT DOWN THERE AND THEY ENJOYED THOSE FIREWORKS . SO IT WAS JUST AN AMAZING EVENT, BUT AGAIN, TO SEE THE PARTICIPATION BY ALL OF CITY STAFF, AND THIS IS JUST AN AMAZING EVENT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, AL. OKAY. UM, LET'S SEE. MRS. GUZMAN, UM, DOUBLE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF WHAT HE SAID, THANK YOU FOR AN AWESOME EVENT. I HAD A BLAST, AND SO DID THE NEIGHBORS THAT CAME ALONG WITH ME. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED MEL'S ENERGY, UH, AT THE EVENT. UH, ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT. THE TWO INTERNS JOINED IN ON THE FUND AND PARTICIPATED, UH, MS. GRIFFIN, I MET MS. GRIFFIN THERE, CHIEF WOODWARD AND, UH, THE POLICE OFFICERS DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH SECURITY, UH, CHIEF ROLE. AND, UH, I DIDN'T SEE CHIEF , BUT CHIEF ROLE DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH, UH, HFD AND, AND KEPT US ALL SAFE. SO, THANKS. UH, ON ANOTHER NOTE, UM, HILTON HEAD LAKES AND MAGNOLIA WALKER JOINING HANDS WITH, UH, JOINING HANDS WITH, UH, UM, MARGARITAVILLE ON THE 22ND OF JULY. I, I KNOW IT'S TWO WEEKS OFF, BUT I JUST HAVE TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT THAT. UH, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU ARE OFF THAT DAY OR YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO, WE INVITE YOU TO ATTEND. UM, THANK YOU TO CHIEF WOODWARD AND HIS TEAM, UM, FOR ALL THE HELP THAT YOU ARE GIVING US TO GET THIS THING OFF THE GROUND. ALSO FOR GETTING US CHIEF WOODWARD, THE GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE POLICE TO HELP US WITH THIS EXPO, UH, ALSO TO CHIEF CAMP AND CHIEF ROLE AND THEIR TEAMS FOR GETTING US ORGANIZED WITH THE, UH, FIRE AND EMS SIDE FOR THE CITY OF HARVILLE. UH, I ALSO HAVE TO TAKE, UH, THANK DIRECTOR WELLS AND THE JASPER COUNTY, UH, TEAM AND SHERIFF HIPP ALSO FOR JOINING HANDS AND, UH, HELPING THESE NEIGHBORHOODS LEARN ALL ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS, SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE TO EVACUATE AND WE HAVE ISSUES, AT LEAST WE HAVE TWO DEVELOPMENTS WHO ARE GOING TO BE HIGHLY EDUCATED ON WHAT'S EXPECTED OF THEM DURING AN EVACUATION. SO THANKS GUYS. OKAY. UH, WE'RE TO MR. CARROLL, BUT NOT LEAST . IT'S THAT SYNERGY THING. SHORTER. UM, NOT A WHOLE LOT. I MISSED THE FOURTH ON MAINE THIS YEAR. I TOLD JEN FIRST TIME, WELL, FIRST ONE I HAVE EVER MISSED, BUT I HAD PLANNED A COUPLE OF MONTHS BEFORE AND I WAS OUT OF TOWN. BUT, UH, I'VE HEARD THAT, UM, IT WAS REALLY GOOD. AND I KNOW JEN ALWAYS WORKS HERSELF TO DEATH BEFORE, BEFORE AN EVENT, SO THANKS A LOT. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF, LIKE I SAY, GOOD, GOOD COMPLIMENTS. ALSO, UH, ATTENDED THE, UM, ELCO MEETING WE HAD, UM, LAST WEEK. AND I HAD A, A CALL, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T THINK MR. BROWN IS IN HERE. IS HE? HE'S WORKING ON OUR HEAT THERE, THE CONDUCTION. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT. ANYWAY, MAYBE MIKE CAN, UM, I HOPE MIKE WILL GIVE HIM THE, UH, MESSAGE FOR ME. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS, AND VERY SELDOM DO WE GET A COMPLIMENT. AND, UM, IT HASN'T BEEN A BIG INCONVENIENCE. BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE, THE, UH, CARROLL STREET, UM, WHEN THE, THE BLOCK AID, THE WHATEVER, THE WORK, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE RIGHT CLOSE TO THAT HAVE HAD TROUBLE WITH, UM, CARS TURNING AROUND IN THE YARD AND TEARING IT UP AFTER A RAIN AND WHATEVER. AND ANYWAY, AND HE TOLD ME I COULD, I'D MENTION HIS NAME, UM, MR. HARPER, JOHN HARPER, UH, LIVES RIGHT CLOSE TO THAT. AND HE SAID HE HAD SOME PEOPLE COMING AND, UM, BACKING UP AND TEARING UP HIS YARD. AND HE HAD CALLED, UM, THE CITY AND HE SAID THEY WERE OUT THERE WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. AND I KNOW HE SAID, UM, MR. BROWN, AND I FORGOT WHO ELSE CAME OUT THERE WITH HIM, I HATE TO FORGET. BUT ANYWAY, HE SAID THEY CAME AND PUT SOME, UM, CONES AND [04:15:01] SOME OTHER THINGS IN HIS YARD. 'CAUSE HE SAID, PART, PART, IT WAS GETTING TORN UP. AND HE JUST WANTED ME TO SAY HOW MUCH HE APPRECIATED THIS, UM, CITY'S RESPONSE. SO I TOLD HIM I WOULD SAY THAT, AND HE SAID HE WAS GONNA TRY TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU, UH, MIKE PERSONALLY, AND TELL YOU. VERY GOOD. ANYWAY, THAT'S IT FOR ME. WELL, YOU ALL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW THAT, UH, UH, I HAVE NOT THAT MUCH TO SAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN AWAY THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. UH, I'VE ALREADY DEMONSTRATED THE EFFECTS OF JET LAG. UH, SO I WON'T GO INTO THAT. I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE, UH, PARKS AND REC ON, ON A, WHAT I'M SURE WAS A GREAT EVENT. I'M SORRY I WAS, UH, AWAY WHEN IT HAPPENED. UM, AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE, ON WEDNESDAY WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL FILL THE BUS WHERE WE WILL HAVE, UH, LOTS OF, UH, DONATIONS FROM THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS JUST KEEPS GROWING. AND, AND JEN, UM, DO WE NEED HELP, UH, AFTERWARDS? IS THERE, UH, A TIME IF PEOPLE WANNA VOLUNTEER, WHEN AND WHERE SHOULD THEY SHOW UP TO HELP SORT? YES, SIR. MAYOR, UM, OH, SORRY. UH, FOR ANYONE THAT DOES WANT TO VOLUNTEER, THEY CAN MEET AT THE REC CENTER AT ABOUT 12 O'CLOCK AND WE'LL DO THE SORT AND WE'LL HAVE LUNCH 12 O'CLOCK ON WEDNESDAY, WEDNESDAY THE 12TH. OKAY. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T GONE OUT AND BOUGHT SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR THE COLLECTION LAST TIME, GO DO SO BEFORE WEDNESDAY. THANK YOU EVERYBODY. UM, AND, UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? WE ADJOURN OUR MEETING. WE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT ALL SAY AYE. AYE. GOODNIGHT EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. UH, THIS IS MAYOR LISA SOKO BLUFFTON, AND I'M MAYOR HARRY WILLIAMS OF HARDY BUILT, AND WE ARE OVERLOOKING 2 78 ON THE SUN CITY MILLENNIAL BRIDGE. AND WE'RE HERE BECAUSE IT'S THE BORDER BETWEEN OUR TWO TOWNS. CORRECT. AND OUR TWO COUNTIES, JASPER AND BUFORT. RIGHT. SO IT'S, IT'S HURRICANE SEASON, RIGHT? IT IS, IT STARTED JUNE 1ST IN, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S HALF THE YEAR. I JUST DON'T LIKE TO THINK THAT, BUT IT REALLY HAS STARTED AND REALLY A GOOD TIME FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT. AND WOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF TIME. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT LONG, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE A NATIVE SOUTH CAROLINIAN, SO YOU'VE BEEN THIS DOWN THIS ROAD A FEW TIMES. YOU KNOW, I MOVED, MOVED TO HILTON HEAD IN 82. SO MY FIRST REAL, UM, TRIAL, YOU KNOW, JUST TEST WITH THE HURRICANE WAS HUGO. AND I WAS EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT. OH, . SO I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE. I UNDERSTAND TRAFFIC EVEN THAT LONG AGO IN 1989 THAT IT WAS STILL AN ISSUE. AND WE'VE ONLY GROWN. WOW. THIS WASN'T HERE WHERE WE'RE STANDING TODAY. SO YEAH. BEEN PART OF A FEW YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH. AND LAST WEEK I READ IN THE BLUFFTON SUN, YOU DID A WONDERFUL ARTICLE THANKS. ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS 1 0 1. SO TELL US WHAT, WHAT ARE THE MAIN POINTS ABOUT GETTING PREPARED? YEAH. AND, AND AFTER THAT, I WANNA, 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT NEW, BUT YOU'RE NEWER AND, AND YOU REALLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF THESE TWO COUNTIES WITH NOT EXPERIENCED IN A HURRICANE. UM, SO THE GOVERNOR, YOU AND I WERE THERE WITH THE GOVERNOR AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING WHAT HE SAID. AND I LOOKED AT SAVANNAH WS A'S TALKING ABOUT IT, OUR COUNTIES PUTTING OUT INFO, BUT WE ARE OUR MAYORS. SO I LOVE THIS THOUGHT OF YOU AND ME GETTING TOGETHER. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, GOVERNOR MCMASTER SAID IT PRETTY SUCCINCTLY, PETS, PILLS, PAPERS PROCEED TO ROOT. SO IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN, IF YOU HAVE A PET, TAKE CARE OF 'EM. IF YOU HAVE MEDICATION, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT. IF YOU HAVE PAPERS ON INSURANCE, GET THEM AND KNOW YOUR ROOT. AND THE ROOT IS PROBABLY THE THING PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT. SURE. SO I WROTE THAT ARTICLE, UM, WE FOLLOW TWO REALLY GOOD WEBSITES. ONE IS AN APP, AND IT'S S-C-D-O-T FIVE 11. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET A PICTURE OF IT. IT'S EASY, UM, ON THE APP. IT GIVES YOU ALL THOSE, THOSE RESOURCES. IT TALKS ABOUT YOUR ROUTE. IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, PREPAREDNESS. IT ALSO HAS A REALLY GREAT SURVEY. IT TOOK ME THREE MINUTES TO DO WHERE ALL OF US WHO LIVE HERE SHOULD TAKE THAT SURVEY TO [04:20:01] HELP THE PEOPLE IN COLUMBIA WHO AREN'T REALLY EVACUATING, UNDERSTAND HOW TO HELP US. SO WHERE, WHERE CAN THEY GET THAT SURVEY ON, ON THE APP, ON THE SC DOT FIVE 11 IS AN APP. AND IF YOU LOOK AT, IT'S ALL THE PHONE TYPES AND IT GIVES YOU THE, UM, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION IN SOUTH CAROLINA. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY RULE OUR WORLD WITH CLOSURES AND ALL. AND, UM, IT, IT'S REALLY FABULOUS. NOW, ANOTHER GOOD SITE THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT WAS HURRICANE SC SIMILAR, BUT IF YOU HAVE A COMPUTER OVER A PHONE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET INTO THIS WORLD OF TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT ALWAYS GONNA BE IN A NEWSLETTER. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE MOVED HERE NOT THAT LONG AGO, BUT WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS WHEN YOU MOVED HERE AS A NEW, NEW JERSEYAN COME INTO THE COAST? WE NEVER HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE IN SUN CITY, IN THE NEW NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE I LIVE, THEY'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT HURRICANES. 'CAUSE THEY'VE NEVER HAD TO PREPARE. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO AND NOT WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT I LEARNED BEING MAYOR AND BEING A NEW RESIDENT WAS, UH, THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME. RIGHT? FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW HERE, UM, TELL US OUR CER OUR FIRST RESPONDERS FOR BOTH OF OUR TOWNS AND OUR COUNTIES. MM-HMM. , THEY'RE SO IMPORTANT TO US. THEY ARE OUR HEROES AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM. AND THERE'S CERTAIN LAWS TO PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. JUROR A HURRICANE. MM-HMM. . SO, UH, MAYOR, THEY HAVE, IF IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, YOU DON'T EVACUATE. RIGHT. AND THERE'S AN EMERGENCY. CAN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS COME AND HELP? WELL, QUICK STORY. UM, IN 17, 16, 17, WE HAD MATTHEW. RIGHT? AND I LEARNED THIS, AND THE WIND MAY HAVE GONE UP A BIT, BUT ONCE THE WINDS GET TO 30 OR 40 MILES PER HOUR, FIRST RESPONDERS ARE CALLED IN. THEY HAVE TO THE SHELTER IN PLACE. AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A CALL WITH SOMEONE WHO FELL DOWN A FLIGHT OF STAIRS, A A LANDING OF STAIRS CALLED 9 1 1 DURING MATTHEW. SHE HAD TO LAY THERE UNTIL THE NEXT MORNING. SO I'M SERIOUS WHEN THEY ARE NOT GOING OUT. AND 30 MILES AN HOUR IS A BRISK OCEAN BREEZE. LAST NIGHT, I THINK WE HAD 30 MILE AN HOUR WINDS. SO DURING A STORM, A NAMED STORM, THAT IS THE PROCESS. SO I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA FORCE ANYONE TO LEAVE. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW WHO, WHO CAN. UM, IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR IF YOU'RE ELDERLY, GET A PLAN. YOU KNOW, I WISH EVERYONE WOULD HEEDED TO IT. BUT THOSE ARE THE 2 9 1 1 CALLS MOST FREQUENTLY MADE. AND YOU'RE GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA BE GOOD IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN IN THE BEGINNING OF THE STORM. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU'RE ELDERLY OR YOU HAVE A, A YOUNG CHILD MM-HMM. AND YOU HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY, THERE WILL BE NO EMT TO COME AND HELP YOU IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE FIRE. MM-HMM. , THERE'LL BE NO FIREFIGHTERS TO COME AND HELP YOU. RIGHT. IF A TREE FALLS DOWN, AND THAT'S LIKELY RIGHT. RIGHT. IT FALLS ON YOUR HOUSE. NOBODY'S GONNA COME AND HELP YOU BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO ABIDE LAW SHELTER IN PLACE. AND HOW ABOUT THE HOSPITALS? WILL THEY BE OPEN? HOSPITALS? REALLY LET YOU KNOW WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE AN EVACUATION. SO HINT TO EVERYONE WHEN YOU START SEEING MOVEMENT ON, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, AND THAT'S, PLEASE LOOK AT THAT. DO NOT GO TO NEXT DOOR. GO TO SOME GOVERNMENT ENTITY. WE'RE ALL GONNA GET THE RIGHT INFO OUT. BUT THE HOSPITALS AND NURSING HOMES START, YOU START SEEING THEM GOING DOWN THE ROAD. YOU, YOU NEED TO KNOW IT'S ABOUT TO START. THEY SHUT DOWN FIRST AND YOU CAN'T GET BACK IN UNTIL THEY OPEN. SO THERE'S JUST SOME TIMEFRAME THAT'S FRUSTRATING. SO THE STORM MAY BE OPEN OR OVER MM-HMM. . BUT THE HOSPITALS AND, AND NURSING HOMES MAY STILL BE CLOSED. SO YOU COULD HAVE AN, AN EMERGENCY, YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE COME AND TREAT YOU, BUT THERE'S NO FACILITY TO TAKE YOU TO UNLESS IT'S HOURS AWAY. RIGHT. RIGHT. WHICH I GO BACK TO THE YOUNG AND THE OLD, WHICH IS PROBABLY HALF OUR POPULATION. IF YOU LOOK AT BOTH AGE GROUPS TO REALLY GET A PLAN. AND THIS IS A, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY. GET A PLAN NOW. SUPER EASY. FOLLOW FOLLOW MY ARTICLE. I HOPE YOU WRITE AN ARTICLE. 'CAUSE I THINK THE MORE WE GET IT OUT, THE BETTER. THAT WAS A GREAT ARTICLE. I, THERE'S NOTHING I COULD ADD TO THAT OTHER THAN JUST TO PLAGIARIZE, PLAGIARIZE . FINE. I WROTE IT SO I GIVE YOU PERMISSION. . OKAY. UM, THERE'S ONE OTHER REALLY IMPORTANT FACTOR. AND MATTHEW WAS MY FIRST HURRICANE [04:25:01] IN 2016. MM-HMM. . NOW I WAS MAYOR JUST A FEW MONTHS. AND SO THIS WAS ALL NEW TO ME. MM-HMM. . BUT THERE WAS COMING BACK AND THERE WERE SO MANY FALSE RUMORS GOING AROUND ON WHEN TO COME BACK, WHEN NOT TO COME BACK. AND 2 78 RIGHT. ALL DOWN HERE WAS A PARKING LOT FOR HOURS OR MAYBE A DAY. YEAH. SO HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, IS IT TO COME BACK AT THE RIGHT TIME? WELL, IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT AND IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BLOCKING THESE ROADS ARE NATIONAL GUARD AND HIGHWAY PATROL. THEY DON'T KNOW YOU MAYOR. THEY DON'T KNOW ME. UM, THEY'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE RULES THAT THE GOVERNOR GIVES 'EM. AND THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE REENTRY CARDS. WE BOTH HAVE TO STAY. BUT THE GOAL IF SOMETHING HITS, IS TO GET ALL OF THESE CONTRACTORS THAT REMOVE DEBRIS TO GET THE HOSPITALS OPEN. UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, ALLOW YOU TO COME IN. IT'S HARD. IT'S COSTLY. ONE GREAT THING ABOUT THE STATE THOUGH, YOU'LL START SEEING A LOT OF COMMUNITY EFFORTS WITH AIRBNBS AND RENTALS ALL UP AND DOWN OUR STATE TO ALLOW PEOPLE WHO REALLY ARE IN NEED TO HAVE A PLACE TO STAY. I STAYED IN A SHELTER DURING, IN HERMA JUST TO CHECK IT OUT. SHELTERS ARE FABULOUS. YOU GET TO EAT, YOU HAVE A COTT, YOU HAVE WIFI, YOU MEET NEW PEOPLE, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR DOGS. YOU TAKE YOUR DOGS TO THE JASPER SHELTER. SO THERE, THERE ARE WAYS TO JUST GIVE IT A MINUTE. WHY DO YOU STRESS OUT IN A CAR IN THE SUMMER? AND THAT'S WHEN HURRICANES HIT WHEN IT'S HOT. SO I REMEMBER FROM, UH, FROM MATTHEW, IT WAS OVER FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND PEOPLE STARTED TO COME BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE, THEY DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION. MM-HMM. . AND THEY STARTED COMING BACK AND 2 78 WAS BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO I 95. MM-HMM. . THEY PARKED ON THE SHOULDER AND THE MEDIAN. SO YOU COULDN'T GET AROUND EVEN IF YOU HAD AN EMERGENCY. AND EVEN THE REASON WAS BECAUSE THERE WERE CERTAIN PARTS OF BLUFFTON AND HILTON HEAD THAT WERE, HAD POWER LINES DOWN. MM-HMM. TREES THAT WEREN'T REMOVED YET, SO THEY COULDN'T OPEN UP MM-HMM. . EVEN THOUGH THE SUN WAS SHINING AND PEOPLE WERE JUST PARKED ON 2 78 BECAUSE THEY CAME BACK TOO EARLY. RIGHT. THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD BEAT IT KIND OF. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, HILTON HEAD WAS A BARRIER ISLAND AND THEY TOOK THE BRUNT OF IT, BUT COMETA BLUFF LOST 3000 TREES. WOW. THE TOWN OF BLUFFTON, JUST IN ONE OF OUR PARKS, LOST 12 TREES. WE HAD NO POWER. IT'S THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING YOU COULD EVER DEAL WITH, IS SITTING IN A DARK HOUSE. IT'S MENTALLY, IT AFFECTS YOU. HILTON HEAD SEWER WAS BACKING UP INTO THEIR TOILETS. THERE WAS NO POWER. WOW. IT'S NOT A PLACE YOU WANNA BE AFTER. THAT WAS A CAT TWO STORM. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOUR GROWN PEOPLE, IF YOU HAVE ELDERLY THAT NEEDS SOME GUIDANCE AND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAN'T MAKE THEIR MINDS UP YET, TAKE CARE OF THEM, THEY'RE IMPORTANT TO OUR TOWNS. THE, UM, ANOTHER THING TO SAY ABOUT THAT FOR US IN JASPER COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY OPENED UP BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE MORE INLAND MM-HMM. BEFORE BEAUFORT COUNTY. MM-HMM. . HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO GET TO SUN CITY, JASPER COUNTY, YOU HAD TO TAKE 2 78 OR ONE 70. RIGHT. AND THOSE ROADS WERE CLOSED BECAUSE THEY LED INTO BUFORT COUNTY. RIGHT. SO IT'S SO IMPORTANT. YOU SAID BEFORE, DON'T LISTEN TO SOCIAL MEDIA. MM-HMM. GO TO, UH, AUTHORIZED NEWS OUTLETS. YEAH. DON'T ASK YOUR FRIEND ON FACEBOOK IF IT'S TIME TO COME BACK. RIGHT. WELL, AND ASK US. 'CAUSE YOU AND I ARE GONNA BE HERE. UM, YOU KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY LEARNED, OUR BEAUFORT COUNTY AND IN JASPER COUNTY LEARNED FROM MATTHEW WAS OH MY GOSH. THE AMOUNT OF MISINFORMATION. SO WE REALLY RELY ON THE COUNTY TO GIVE US THE INFO. NOW IT'S YOU AND ME, BOOTS ON THE ROAD TO GET IT OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS. 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE GONNA LISTEN TO US. UM, WHEN I STAYED, I WANTED TO BE THERE. I EVACUATED BEFORE. I KNOW HOW STRESSED YOU ARE AND THERE'S NOT MUCH YOU AND I DO AFTER EVACUATION, BUT SIGN EMERGENCY ORDERS. SO WE DID A LOT OF COMMUNICATING ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN SPANISH AND IN ENGLISH, IN VIDEOS AND IN TEXT, WHICH WAS IMPORTANT. AND I MEAN, IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. SO BLUFFTON ISS NOT GONNA STOP DOING THAT. AND I, IF IT'S SOMEONE IN HARDY THAT GETS THAT INFORMATION FROM ME OR BLUFFTON THAT GETS INFORMATION FROM YOU, PLEASE UTILIZE THIS. [04:30:01] YES. AND THAT LAST, MATTHEW, YOU DID A WONDERFUL JOB. AGAIN. I WAS A NEW MAYOR. I'M LOOKING TO YOU . AND YOU'RE NOT A NEW MAYOR ANYMORE. YOU'RE, YOU WERE IN THE SHELTER YEAH. AND GIVING OUT INFORMATION AS THE STORM WAS ONGOING. RIGHT. AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF SOURCES. IF YOU'RE GONNA GO ON FACEBOOK, GO ON ON THE BLUFFTON FACEBOOK PAGE OR THE HARDY FACEBOOK PAGE AND GET THE REAL INFORMATION REAL TIME. AND MAYOR SULKIN AND I WILL BE GIVING OUT INFORMATION. NOW THERE'S ONE, ONE LAST POINT. WE'VE BEEN CHATTING HERE FOR A WHILE. YOU AND I WENT TO SEE THE, THE, UH, GOVERNOR LAST WEEK. MM-HMM. IN, IN BEAUFORT ABOUT HURRICANE PREPAREDNESS. MM-HMM. . AND A QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES. MM-HMM. , WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC JAMS ON 2 78 AND THEY COULD BE TRAFFIC JAMS. UH, IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG, IT COULD BE LEAVING. MM-HMM. . IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND YOU'RE STUCK IN A TRAFFIC JAM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET RECHARGED? WHAT DID THE GOVERNOR HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT? WELL, YOU, YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN YOUR TOWN THAT HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WHAT WOULD YOU TELL THEM? I'D TELL 'EM EXACTLY WHAT THE GOVERNOR SAID. LEAVE EARLY. YEAH. THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, MAYOR, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ELECTRIC VEHICLES IN 16. Y'ALL THINK BACK OF WHAT'S CHANGED. AND I JUST HAD FRIENDS ASK ME ABOUT PUTTING A CHARGING STATION IN THEIR GARAGE. AND I SAID, WELL FIND THOSE CHARGING STATIONS ALONG THE ROUTE. OR DO NOT DRIVE YOUR ELECTRIC CAR WHEN YOU EVACUATE BECAUSE YOU ONE CAR ON ONE LANE, AND I SAW IT YESTERDAY, JUST YESTERDAY, BACKS TRAFFIC UP FOR 10 MILES. WOW. SO IF THEY RUN OUT AND THEY THINK THEY CAN MAKE IT, AND THEY'RE STUCK, THINK ABOUT ALL THE TRAFFIC BEHIND NO COPS, AND YOU GOTTA GO AROUND AND THOSE TWO LANES TURN INTO ONE, IT'S, YOU DON'T WANNA DO THAT. SO PLAN, IF YOU OWN THOSE PLAN, KNOW YOUR ROUTE AND KNOW YOUR STATIONS AND GO EARLY AND LEAVE EARLY. YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING BEFORE. IF THE POWER GOES OUT AND THAT'S LIKELY, IF YOU WAIT TOO LONG AND YOUR POWER GOES OUT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CHARGE THAT VEHICLE THAT YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO TO LEAVE. RIGHT. AB ABSOLUTELY. SO THE, UH, THE CALL COMES BACK TO LEAVING EARLY. RIGHT? AS SOON AS THE GOVERNOR SAYS TO LEAVE AND, AND GET OUT OF TOWN AND HAVE A NICE VACATION SOMEWHERE. GO SOMEWHERE AND JUST FIND A FRIEND. CALL AND ASK FOR FRIENDS. I MEAN, GO INLAND A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, I KNOW I GO BACK TO, IT'S HARD. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HALF OF OUR COUNTIES STRUGGLE AND THE OTHER HALF PROBABLY ARE, BUT WANNA ADMIT IT. UM, SO I KNOW IT'S HARD TO NOT HAVE A JOB BECAUSE EVERYONE'S SHUT DOWN. UM, BUT FIND SOMEONE NOW JUST INLAND A LITTLE BIT WHERE YOU CAN STAY IN A FRIEND'S HOUSE. SO, UM, THAT'S MY ADVICE TO EVERYONE. ONE THING THAT HAS CHANGED OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS IS WITH MCMASTER, HE STOPPED ISSUING VOLUNTARY EVACUATIONS. YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THAT. YOU VOLUNTEER YOURSELF TO EVACUATE IF YOU FEEL THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE GONNA BE CRUCIAL. WHEN HE SAYS EVACUATE, HE IS NOT KIDDING AROUND. AND HE MEANS IT. AND TO THE POINT, YOU KNOW, WE GET ON AND YOU START TURNING, YOU KNOW, MOM AND DAD ON OUR RESIDENCE TO THE POINT OF LET YOUR SECURITY, IF YOU'RE IN A SECURE COMMUNITY, LET 'EM KNOW YOU'RE STAYING. BECAUSE WE NEED TO KNOW WHO'S IN THAT HOUSE. IF A TREE FALLS DOWN ON IT, I MEAN, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR REALLY STRICT, HARSH STATEMENTS BECAUSE HE'S NOT DOING IT. 'CAUSE IT'S FUN. HE DOESN'T NEED THIS COUNTY TO SHUT DOWN OR THE STATE. SO HEEDED HIS ADVICE, AND I KNOW WE'RE RATTLING ON A LITTLE BIT, WE GO ON ALL DAY. BUT THIS IS, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, IMPORTANT ISSUE. IT IS. MANY PEOPLE I'VE HEARD, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO EVACUATE IN MATTHEW BECAUSE THE EVERYBODY GOES DOWN. EVEN SECURITAS, UH, HAS A MINIMAL STAFF AND THEY'RE LEAVING THE COMMUNITY ON GUARD. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, DURING MATTHEW AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN ANY FUTURE HURRICANE, THE HARDY POLICE WILL BE PATROLLING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND I, AND THE SAME WITH THE BEAUFORT COUNTY AND BLUFFTON. RIGHT. POLICE WILL COME INTO THESE COMMUNITIES. MM-HMM. THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NOTHING GOING ON. ABSOLUTELY. AND ON TOP OF THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IN JASPER, BUT IN BLUFFTON, PART OF BEAUFORT COUNTY, WE HAVE THREE OR 400 NATIONAL GUARDSMEN THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HOUSE THEMSELVES IN OUR POWER, OUR PARKS AND LEISURE SERVICES BUILDINGS ON BUCK WALTER, THEY HAVE JURISDICTION EVERYWHERE. YOU, WE'VE GOT SUCH HELP. AND [04:35:01] I'VE NOT SEEN, I MEAN, DURING MATTHEW, A KID BROKE INTO A PARKER'S AND STOLE CIGARETTES. YOU KNOW, I KIND OF LAUGHED LIKE I WOULD'VE FOUND SOMEBODY TO GIVE HIM SOME, YOU KNOW, IT IS MINOR STUFF. YEAH. BUT OUR OFFICERS ARE PRETTY FOCUSED AND WE'LL PUT A CURFEW IN IF NEED BE. SO AGAIN, IF YOU STAY AND YOU HAVE NO POWER AND MY HUSBAND LIVED IT, YOU HAVE NO POWER. THAT MEANS YOU HAVE NO TOILET FLUSHING. UM, YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR HOUSE BOARDED SO YOU HAVE NO LIGHT AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT. 'CAUSE THERE'S A CURFEW. IT'S NOT A FUN WEEK TO LIVE IN THIS AREA. IF YOU STAYED AND YOU'RE UNDER CURFEW. SO DO YOU HAVE A FINAL YOU HAVE A FINAL WORD FOR EVERYBODY? WELL, I'D LOVE YOURS. UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA GET THE MESSAGE OUT. I'M NOT THIS ONE TO CALL FEAR. I THINK EVERYONE HAS TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS, BUT I REALLY DO WORRY ABOUT TWO DEMOGRAPHICS IN OUR TOWN AND THEN THE MIDDLE DEMOGRAPHIC GO TO GO TO RIDGELAND, GO TO WALTER BOROUGH, GO UP, YOU KNOW, GO WHERE THE HURRICANE JUST CAME FROM. BE CREATIVE, BUT JUST BE READY AND BE PREPARED. FEEL LIKE A BOY SCOUT. HOW ABOUT YOU? AND TO EVERYBODY, JUST STAY SAFE. YEAH. IT'S NOT WORTH A FEW DAYS INCONVENIENCE TO LOSE SOMEONE'S LIFE. ABSOLUTELY. HI EVERYBODY, I'M CHARLES MYERS, BUSINESS CONSULTANT WITH SC WORKS DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT WORKFORCE HERE ON CASTLE ROCK ROAD IN BEAUFORT. LET'S TALK ABOUT JOBS IN JASPER ATLAS. SURVEYING IS SEEKING AN INSTRUMENT OPERATOR. ATLAS SURVEYING, INCORPORATED AS AN INDUSTRY LEADING PROFESSIONAL LAND SURVEYING FIRM WITH OFFICES IN SAVANNAH, HILTON HEAD, CHARLESTON, CHARLOTTE AND GREENVILLE SPARTANBURG. THEY USE CONVENTIONAL TOOLS, ROBOTS AND DRONES TO CONDUCT SURVEYS AND PERFORM CERTIFICATIONS AND TO PROVIDE REAL TIME GPS AND AERIAL MAPPING. UH, THEY SERVE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS AND CONSTRUCTION, ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FIRMS IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTORS. DESIRE, SKILLS AND EXPERIENCE. PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IN CONSTRUCTION, SURVEYING OR UTILITY LOCATING IS STRONGLY PREFERRED BUT NOT REQUIRED. THE ABILITY TO STAND AND WALK FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME TO BEND AND STOOP AND TO LIFT HEAVY ITEMS IS ESSENTIAL. IT IS ALSO SOMETIMES NECESSARY TO ENTER MANHOLES PROFESSIONAL AND TEAM ORIENTED ATTITUDE WITH A DESIRE TO BUILD A CAREER. MUST BE HONEST, DEPENDABLE, THOROUGH, SAFETY CONSCIOUS, AND HAVE A STRONG WORK ETHIC. MUST BE SELF-DRIVEN WITH LITTLE OR NO SUPERVISION. MUST HAVE CURRENT AND A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE WITH MVR THAT MEETS COMPANY REQUIREMENTS. UH, WORKING CONDITIONS COULD BE INDOORS OR OUTDOORS, AND THE JOB IS SUBJECT TO EXTREME WEATHER CONDITIONS. A FULL BENEFITS PACKAGE IS OFFERED FOR THIS JOB AND THE SALARY RANGES FROM 17 TO $21 PER HOUR, DEPENDING ON EXPERIENCE. PLEASE APPLY FOR THIS ROLE AT THE FOLLOWING SITE. ATLAS SURVEYING.COM. ATLAS SURVEYING IS LOCATED IN RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. OUR SECOND JOB IS WITH CLEVELAND SITE PREP. THEY'RE SEEKING A DIESEL MECHANIC. CLEVELAND SITE PREP HAS AN OPENING FOR AN EXPERIENCED DIESEL MECHANIC. OUR BLUFFTON, SOUTH CAROLINA FACILITY COMPLETES MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS ON THE COMPANY'S FLEET OF DUMP TRUCKS, TRACTOR TRAILERS, HEAVY EARTH MOVING EQUIPMENT, PICKUP TRUCKS, AND OTHER VARIOUS EQUIPMENT. QUALIFIED CANDIDATES HAVE A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF DIESEL AND GAS ENGINES, HYDRAULICS, BRAKING SYSTEMS, AC SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, TRANSMISSIONS AND DRIVE TRAINS, TIRES AND SUSPENSION SYSTEMS AS WELL. JOB DUTIES INCLUDE MAINTAINS TROUBLESHOOTS AND PERFORMS QUALITY REPAIRS ON EQUIPMENT AS NEEDED. COMPLETES REQUIRED LUBRICATION OF WEAR OF WORN ITEMS, UH, MAINTAINS CLEAR AND ORGANIZED WORK AREA ACCURATELY COMPLETES ALL REQUIRED PAPERWORK WITH TIMELY SUBMISSIONS, MAINTAINS ADHERENCE TO ALL COMPANY AND INDUSTRY SAFETY STANDARDS, AND PERFORMS OTHER DUTIES AS ASSIGNED JOB REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE MUST HAVE YOUR OWN WORKING SET OF TOOLS. YOU MUST HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO WORK EXTENDED HOURS, INCLUDING WEEKENDS AS REQUIRED. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO LIFT HEAVY OBJECTS AND BE ABLE TO CLIMB ON AND UNDER EQUIPMENT AND YOU MUST BE ABLE TO PASS A DRUG TEST, BACKGROUND CHECK AND A AND A MOTOR VEHICLE RECORDS CHECK. PLEASE APPLY FOR THIS JOB@CLEVELANDSITEPREP.COM, A FULL BENEFITS PACKAGES OFFERED. AND THE COMPANY SITE IS AT 4 26 RED OAK LANE, RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. OUR FINAL JOB TODAY IS WITH LEADS WAY THERAPEUTIC SERVICES. THEY'RE SEEKING A MEDICAL RECEPTIONIST. THE SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE MUST SUBMIT TO A DRUG BACKGROUND AND REFERENCE CHECK. COMPENSATION [04:40:01] FOR THIS ROLE IS 13 TO $15 AN HOUR, DEPENDING ON EXPERIENCE AND LEADS WAY IS LOCATED AT 7 7 6 6 WEST MAIN STREET IN RIDGELAND, SOUTH CAROLINA. YOU CAN APPLY FOR THIS JOB ON SITE OR COME DOWN TO SC WORKS AT 1 64 CASTLE ROCK ROAD HERE IN BEAUFORT, SOUTH CAROLINA. WE'D BE GLAD TO HELP YOU WITH THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR JOBS IN JASPER THIS WEEK. THANKS FOR TUNING IN. WE ARE AT THE HARDY WORLD VISITOR CENTER JUST SOUTH OF EXIT FIVE ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE. AND THIS IS NATIONAL TOURISM WEEK. SO I'M HERE WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE GREETING VISITORS WHO ARE STOPPING BY IN OUR FAIR CITY. UM, IT'S A VERY, VERY CROWDED VISITOR CENTER. I I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE TOPS IN, IN THE COUNTRY. SO, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE SO MANY TIMES. WE SENT SO MANY PEOPLE OVER INTO THE TOWN OF HARVILLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'RE HERE TO BUILD UP THE AREAS THAT, UM, IN THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA. IT GIVES IN TREMENDOUS NAME RECOGNITION TO OUR CITY. UM, MANY PEOPLE TRAVEL FROM MAINE TO MIAMI, AND THEY ALL GO PAST THE CITY OF HARVILLE. WE ARE ON OUR WAY UP TO, UH, NORTH CAROLINA FROM FLORIDA TO, UH, SEE OUR TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE. AND THIS IS ONE WAY TO SHOW OUR FACE WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT. AND SO, ROB PARKS AND REC, WHO BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE RECREATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS, JUST TELL US TO TELL OUR VISITORS WHAT OUR CITY'S ABOUT. WE'VE NEVER BEEN TO A WELCOME CENTER WHERE THEY GIVE YOU SOMETHING GREAT WELCOME CENTER. I MEAN, IT'S WELCOMING THE BATHROOMS, WERE UNBELIEVABLY CLEAN. AND, UM, JUST SEEING THE PICTURES MAKES YOU WANNA COME BACK. SO HOSPITALITY, THAT'S THE DRAW FOR THE LOCAL SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY. UM, YOU GOT A LOT OF THE, THE BEACHES AND YOU KNOW, YOU GOT BEERS, BUT A LOT, A LOT OF THE SOUTHERN TOWN IS WHAT DROPPED YOU TO THE LOCAL TO HEAR THINGS BEING SAID ABOUT OUR CITY, GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR CITY, AND JUST LEARNING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO PASSES BY. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE PEOPLE. NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO IN PUBLIC SERVICE, IT'S ABOUT THE PEOPLE. HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE LATEST EDITION OF SPEAKING OF HARDY. WELL SCHOOL MAY BE OUT FOR THE SUMMER, BUT THE EDUCATION PROCESS CONTINUES. IN TODAY'S EPISODE, I SPEAK TO THREE EDUCATORS FROM THREE DIFFERENT CHARTER SCHOOLS AROUND THE AREA. ONE WILL TELL ME ABOUT A NEW SCHOOL, ONE WILL TELL ME ABOUT A NEW BUILDING, AND THE THIRD WILL TELL ME ABOUT BEING A NEW AUTHOR. STAY WITH US. SPEAKING OF HARDY VILLE STARTS RIGHT NOW AND WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY DR. KAREN WICKS. SHE IS THE CO-FOUNDER AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT ROYAL LIVE OAKS ACADEMY OF THE ARTS AND SCIENCE CHARTER SCHOOL HERE IN HARDY BELT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME. IT'S MY PLEASURE. AND, UH, RIGHT OFF THE TOP, WE KIND OF HAVE SOME BREAKING NEWS AS OF THE TIME WE ARE RECORDING THIS. UH, YOUR HUSBAND RECENTLY RECEIVED AN AWARD AND WE WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS PROPS, HIS FLOWERS. UH, SO TELL ME ABOUT THAT AWARD. I KNOW WE CAME TO TALK ABOUT YOU IN THE SCHOOL, BUT HIS JUST, UH, HIT THE PRESS. SO YES. WELL, UM, THE CHARTER INSTITUTE AT ERSKINE, OUR DISTRICT HONORED HIM WITH THE PILLAR AWARD FOR WHAT HE DID IN BRINGING US TO SOUTH CAROLINA, NUMBER ONE, AND HAVING THE VISION FOR ROYAL IEX ACADEMY AND, UM, FOR GETTING US OFF THE GROUND BECAUSE HIS EXPERIENCE AS AN ENTREPRENEUR, YOU KNOW, A BUSINESSMAN, HE KNEW ALL OF THE STEPS THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN SO THAT WE'D HAVE A PLACE TO HAVE OUR SCHOOL AND THEN ALSO FOR THE BUILDING OF OUR, UH, CURRENT, UH, LOCATION, WHICH IS A 70,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY THAT, SO THAT'S, UM, IT'S A HUGE, IT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR HIM. IT IS THE CULMINATION OF HIS CAREER [04:45:01] AS, UH, AN ENTREPRENEUR, I WOULD SAY. AND FOR, HE'S MY PILLAR, ALSO. HE'S MY KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR. AND, UM, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM HIM OVER OUR MANY YEARS TOGETHER. MARRIED. WOW. WELL, GREAT. CONGRATULATIONS TO HIM. UH, LET'S GO BACK AND WHAT IS THE CONNECTION BETWEEN ROYAL ISLAND OAKS AND ERSKINE UNIVERSITY? WELL, THE, UH, ERSKINE COLLEGE, UM, AUTHORIZED, IF YOU WILL, THE CHARTER INSTITUTE, ERSKINE AS A, UM, A DISTRICT, UM, AN AUTHORIZER FOR SCHOOLS AND THE CHARTER LAW. UM, THERE CAN BE A LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICT WHO, UH, IS THE SPONSOR OR THE AUTHORIZER FOR A CHARTER SCHOOL OR, UM, HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTION. SO AS A HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTION, UM, THAT GAVE, UH, ERSKINE COLLEGE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT. AND NOW LIMESTONE HAS DONE THE SAME. SO THERE ARE THREE OF THE STATE AUTHORIZERS, SOUTH CAROLINA PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL DISTRICT CHARTER INSTITUTE AT ERSKINE, AND THEN LIMESTONE, UM, AS WELL. AND, UH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN HERE IN VILLE? I, I REMEMBER, I I LOOK AT YOUR GREAT FACILITY NOW, AND NOT THAT IN THE MOBILE UNITS WAS BAD BECAUSE EVERYBODY NEEDED A STARTING PLACE, BUT, UH, YOU GUYS STARTED IN MOBILE UNITS. YES. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE AND HOW DID THAT TRANSITION TAKE PLACE? WE'VE BEEN IN HARDY FOR 11 YEARS, UH, AND, UM, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO SECURE LAND, UH, TO PURCHASE. SO WE LOOKED AT, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEASE LAND. SO WE LEASED THAT LAND AND WHEN WE, UH, WERE ABLE TO, UH, SECURE THIS, UH, LAND, UM, 26 ACRES, UH, THEN WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD THE, THE BUILDING AND MOVE INTO IT. AND THAT TOOK ABOUT FOUR YEARS TO SECURE THE FUNDING THROUGH THE USDA AND THE PROCESS THAT THEY REQUIRE FOR THAT THEY NEED TO BUILD THE BUILDING. AND, UH, SO IT WAS, WE'VE BEEN THERE NOW THREE YEARS, THREE AND A HALF YEARS. OKAY. NOW, AT THE TIME OF THIS RECORDING, UH, WE ARE JUST COMING OUT OF THE SCHOOL YEAR AND I'M, I'M SO HAPPY THAT YOU COULD JOIN ME, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS ARE DONE, BUT YOU'RE STILL WORKING. BUT WHAT MAKES THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE AT ROYAL LIVE OAKS SO SPECIAL? I THINK IT'S A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. UH, WE, UH, HAVE A, AN ALL EMBRACING ATTITUDE. UM, WE HAVE A NURTURING ENVIRONMENT AND WE REALLY FOCUS ON THE NEEDS OF EACH STUDENT, NO MATTER, UM, WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS, THEIR ETHNICITY, THEIR RACE, IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT'S THE STUDENT WHO MATTERS. AND WE WORK VERY HARD TO PROVIDE A MUCH MORE INDIVIDUALIZED, UH, APPROACH. SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE MORE STAFF MEMBERS TO DO THAT, MORE INTERVENTIONISTS AND PARAPROFESSIONALS TO ASSIST THE TEACHER IN THE CLASSROOM. AND THEN ALSO, UM, WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST PROGRAM FOR OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, SO THAT THEY ALSO RECEIVE, UH, WHAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. I, I THINK ALSO YOU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT STAFF. WE'VE BEEN VERY BLESSED TO HAVE A VERY GOOD STAFF. AND, UM, SO WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FOR THE SAME GOAL, THEN YOU CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE FOR CHILDREN. WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A STUDENT AT ROYAL ISLANDS? WELL, THERE'S AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, FOR THAT. AND, UM, IF THE GRADE IS FULL, BECAUSE EVERY GRADE HAS A A MAX FOR THEM, THEN, UM, THEY GO ON A WAIT LIST. AND OUR REGISTRAR KEEPS TRACK OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S AN OPENING, SOMEONE MOVES OUTTA STATE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. UH, WE DON'T LOSE VERY MANY STUDENTS. UM, THIS COMING YEAR, 98% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE COMING BACK. SO, UM, THAT WAIT LIST GETS VERY LARGE OVER THE COURSE OF TIME. SO IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED, THEY NEED TO CONTACT THE SCHOOL AND YES, TRY AND GET ON THE LIST. RIGHT. OR, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITE, UH, THEY CAN APPLY THROUGH THE WEBSITE OR THEY CAN COME IN AND FILL OUT AN APPLICATION. NOW, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET, THERE'S SO MUCH WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN EDUCATION, BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE I HEARD THAT YOU ARE AN AUTHOR NOW AND I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOK THAT YOU WROTE. SO IF YOU COULD TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AND HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO WRITE A BOOK? WELL, TWISTED SILVER SPOONS IS, UH, THE NOVEL. UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SORT OF BY HAPPENSTANCE. I'M WORKING WITH A LOT OF STUDENTS OVER MANY YEARS. YOU SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT, UH, JUST YOU THINK ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF THIS HAPPENED? WHAT IF THAT HAPPENED? AND A, A STORY WAS FORMING IN MY MIND, SO I WOULD JUST MAKE NOTES. AND, UH, THEN I JUST STARTED WRITING. I USED TO WRITE A LOT OF POETRY AND, UM, [04:50:01] YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH MY FEELINGS ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS. AND THEN I ALWAYS KEPT A JOURNAL. UM, IT'S PART OF MY SPIRITUAL PRACTICE TO DO THAT. AND IT JUST SORT OF DEVELOPED THIS, UH, CHARACTER GEORGE JUST TOOK LIFE ON AND I JUST STARTED TO WRITE HIS STORY. OKAY. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GEORGE, WITHOUT GIVING AWAY, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE IT. BUT TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GEORGE. WELL, GEORGE, UH, IS, UM, A YOUNG MAN. IT'S REALLY HIS, UH, JOURNEY OF SELF-DISCOVERY. UM, A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS ON HIM THAT HE DOES NOT FEEL HE CAN MEET. HE'S A VERY PRIVILEGED YOUNG MAN, UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DRAMA AROUND HIS FAMILY. UH, THE REVIEWERS CALL IT A PSYCHOLOGICAL THRILLER, BUT ALSO, UM, IT'S A HUMAN DRAMA ABOUT THE INTERACTIONS OF PEOPLE AND, AND THE, THE, UM, THE DIFFICULTIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, CAN GET RATHER COMPLICATED AT TIMES, ESPECIALLY IF A CHILD IS EXPECTED TO FILL A CERTAIN ROLE AND DOESN'T FEEL THAT THAT'S WHERE HE WANTS TO GO IN HIS LIFE. SO, UM, IT'S, UM, IT IS RATHER COMPELLING, I HAVE TO SAY. YOU KNOW, YOU PICK IT UP AND YOU DON'T WANNA PUT IT DOWN. THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY MANY READERS AND, UM, I MYSELF LIKE TO GO BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHAT, WHAT CAUSED ME TO SAY THAT? AND YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY LIKE, UM, THE NARRATIVE ITSELF JUST LEADS YOU TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF WHAT YOU WANT TO WRITE. YOU JUST FOLLOW IT AS IT GOES. IT'S, YOU HAVE THIS NOTION AND THEN IT JUST TAKES OFF. SO IS BEING AN AUTHOR SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS KIND OF, I, I, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU USED TO WRITE POETRY, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALWAYS KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT DOING? UM, NOT NECESSARILY. I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST STARTED KEEPING A JOURNAL BECAUSE, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT MY MOTHER DID, AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO WORK OUT THINGS THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, GOD LAYS SOMETHING ON YOUR HEART, SO YOU START TO WRITE ABOUT IT AND YOU SEE HOW IT APPLIES TO YOUR LIFE. AND SO THAT JUST DEVELOPED. AND FROM THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE A, THE WRITING PRACTICE, A LOT OF MY EXPERIENCE IN EDUCATION HAS ALSO HAD A LOT OF WRITING INVOLVED IN IT. AND SO THE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS JUST, JUST GERMINATE FROM THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU JUST WANT TO PUT SOMETHING DOWN ON PAPER THAT YOU MIGHT NOT DISCUSS WITH SOMEONE ELSE. OKAY. SO CAN WE EXPECT MORE BOOKS IN THE FUTURE ? UM, I, I, YEAH, I EXPECT SO. UM, I'M WORKING ON THE SEQUEL RIGHT NOW. I JUST, THE STORY JUST KEPT GOING IN MY HEAD. SO, YOU KNOW, I TO START WRITING AND EVERYBODY KEEPS TELLING ME, YOU NEED TO WRITE ABOUT RURAL, I YOU NEED TO WRITE ABOUT THAT STORY. WELL, THAT HASN'T COME TO ME PER SE, BUT I GUESS YOU'D SAY MY MEMOIR IS, HAS BEEN RATTLING AROUND IN MY HEAD. SO THAT'S BEEN GOING ON PAPER TOO, . RIGHT. AND I ALSO SAW THAT THE DOCUMENTARY THAT WAS DONE ON, ON YOU GUYS AS WELL. AND THAT'S, UH, PRETTY AWESOME AND HOPE THAT OUR VIEWERS GET A, THAT THAT HAVEN'T SEEN IT, HOPE THAT OUR VIEWERS GET A CHANCE TO SEE IT PRETTY SOON. SO, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. AND THAT KIND OF TELLS THE STORY AS WELL, CORRECT? IT DOES. UM, IT'S A COMMEMORATION OF 11 YEARS OF ROYAL LIVE OAKS BEING ALIVE AND HOW WE WENT ABOUT, UM, COMING UP WITH THE IDEA AND WHAT BROUGHT US HERE, ALL THOSE THINGS. YOU SEE, MY HUSBAND'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS COMING HERE. UH, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE HE, HE BROUGHT ME TO SOUTH CAROLINA, UH, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO COME AND , WELL, YOU KNOW, WE WERE UPROOTING OUR ENTIRE LIFE, SO THERE WAS THAT. BUT UM, WHEN WE SAW THE DOCUMENTARY CORRIDOR OF SHAME, UM, I WAS COMPELLED AS WELL. BUT YOU KNOW, HE HAD THE VISION OF WHAT WE WOULD DO, BE ABLE TO DO AND, UM, I'VE ALWAYS FOLLOWED HIS LEAD. SO WE WENT FROM THERE AND THEN I JUST PUT TO USE MY KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND MADE SURE THAT TO GET GOOD PEOPLE TO WORK ALONGSIDE OF US AND TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. OKAY. SO ALMOST OUT OF TIME, BUT WHERE CAN WE GET A COPY OF, UH, TWISTED SILVER SPOONS? WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT? WELL, TWISTED SILVER SPOONS IS AT AMAZON AND UH, I THINK IT'S STILL AT BURNS AND NOBLE TOO. UM, SO YES, THEY CAN FIND IT. AMAZON FOR SURE. I THINK EVERYBODY FINDS WHAT THEY WANT ON AMAZON THESE DAYS. , I KNOW I SPENT ENOUGH TIME ON THAT, BUT , UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE DIDN'T COVER THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING UP? UM, I THINK WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT. UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TALK ABOUT ROYAL ISLAND OAKS AND, UH, MY HUSBAND ESPECIALLY AND, UH, AND GEORGE HERE AT TWISTED SILVER SPOONS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU FOR COMING [04:55:01] IN. I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING INTO THE SUMMER, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE WRITING AND I KNOW, UH, TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS, IT'S PRETTY MUCH A YEAR ROUND JOB. SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AS WELL. AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING IN. THANK YOU JUAN, AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY MS. KIM STALER. SHE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT POLARIS TECH CHARTER SCHOOL. AND THAT'S LOCATED ORIGINALLY, BUT THEY SERVICE, UH, ALL OF JASPER COUNTY, CORRECT? YEAH. YEP. . OKAY. , THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING ME. AND I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GOT SOME BIG PLANS GOING ON OUT THERE AT UH, POLARIS TECH. BUT FIRST, UH, LET'S DO A LITTLE BACKGROUND. HOW LONG HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN AROUND? SO THIS IS OUR FIFTH YEAR THAT WE JUST CLOSED OUT AT POLARIS TECH. SO WE RECEIVED OUR CHARTER IN 2017 AND OPENED OUR FACILITY IN 2018. AND, UM, WELL, WHERE DID YOUR STUDENTS COME FROM? I, YOU KNOW, I SAID YOU SERVED AS JASPER COUNTY, BUT SO WE ARE ACTUALLY STARTED THROUGH, UM, CHARTERED THROUGH THE STATE, BUT THEY COME FROM, UM, PRIMARILY JASPER COUNTY, COLLETON, HAMPTON BEAUFORT. UM, IT'S REALLY KIND OF WITHIN A DRIVABLE RADIUS OF 30 TO 45 MILES, BUT WE'RE PRIMARILY RIGHT AROUND THE RIDGELAND AREA IS WHERE OUR PROPOSITION COMES FROM. OKAY. AND WHAT GRADES DO YOU SERVE? CURRENTLY? WE SERVE GRADES FIVE THROUGH 12. UM, AND THEN IN THE FALL WE'LL BE A FULL K 12 CONTINUUM. WE ADD THE ELEMENTARY. OH, WOW. YEAH. OKAY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. OKAY. NOW, HOW CAN SOMEONE ENROLL IF THEY WANTED TO GO OUT TO, UH, BECAUSE ARE YOU BASICALLY A STEM SCHOOL OR TELL ME ABOUT YOUR, UH, SURE. SO WE ARE A PROJECT BASED SCHOOL AND WE REALLY FOCUS ON REAL WORLD LIFE RELATIVE PROJECTS OR PROBLEMS FOR KIDS TO GET INVOLVED IN. SO YOU, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHEN YOU HAVE A A REAL WORLD PROBLEM, YOU SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT DO I KNOW, WHAT DO I NEED TO KNOW, AND HOW DO I SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AS A TEAM? THAT'S REALLY THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'VE CREATED IN SCHOOL. SO EMBEDDED IN THESE PROJECTS ARE THE STATE STANDARDS, BUT ALSO, UM, THE CREATIVITY THAT KIDS LOVE AND THE ENGAGEMENT, UM, THAT'S DEMONSTRATED IN BEST PRACTICES. THEY LEARN FASTER THAT WAY. AND WE CAN MAKE UP ANY GROUND THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY, UM, TO ACTUALLY BECOME, UH, A LEARNER AT POLARIS TECH. YOU CAN CALL US AT (843) 645-0605 OR GO TO OUR WEBSITE, WWW.POLARISTECH.ORG. UM, SUPER EASY TO ENROLL. WE HAVE A FEW SEATS LEFT STILL FOR THE FALL. SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN OUR SCHOOL TO TAKE A LOOK. SO WHAT MAKES THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE SO SPECIAL OUT THERE? SO I THINK WHAT'S SO SPECIAL IS THE ENGAGEMENT THAT STUDENTS CAN HAVE. UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF STUDENTS WE FOUND WE'RE NOT ENGAGED IN THE SIT AND GET MODEL, WHICH IS A MORE TRADITIONAL MODEL, WHICH SAYS, I'M GONNA FEED YOU INFORMATION AS A LECTURER FROM A TEACHER, AND THEN YOU REGURGITATE THAT ON THE TEST. THEY DON'T ALWAYS RETAIN THAT INFORMATION AND THEY GO ON TO THE NEXT YEAR. AND SO WHAT PROJECT BASED LEARNING DOES IS IT TAKES THAT INFORMATION AND APPLIES IT TO A REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. SO YOU REMEMBER IT, IT'S SORT OF LIKE IF I ASKED YOU TO BAKE A CAKE, YOU WOULD REMEMBER THE INGREDIENTS THAT WENT IN THE CAKE AND HOW YOU DID IT, RATHER THAN IF I GAVE YOU A CAKE RIGHT. AND SAID, JUST EAT THAT ONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT . UM, SO IT'S ALL ABOUT THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE THAT MAKES EVERYTHING DIFFERENT. AND THEN WE REALLY FOCUS ON CAREERS IN OUR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL EXPOSURE TO CAREERS THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVELIHOOD. SO BIOMEDICAL, AEROSPACE, BUSINESS, UM, CAREERS THAT IN THE LOW COUNTRY CAN MAKE, UM, A VERY GOOD LIVING WAGE FOR OUR, OUR KIDS, BUT ALSO OUR FAMILIES AND CHANGE THEIR LIVING DYNAMIC. UM, JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND HERE IN HARDY, WE UM, WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO USE THE HARVILLE REC CENTER FOR OUR GRADUATION, AND 13 OF OUR GRADUATES WERE AEROSPACE GRADUATES. SO, UM, THEY HAD COMPLETED THE PROGRAM IN AEROSPACE. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR WHAT THEIR FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE. SO WITH THAT, YOU GUYS HAVE SPECIAL INSTRUCTOR SPECIAL TEACHERS? WE, WE DO, WE DO. WE HAVE FOLKS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR. UM, OUR, UH, CURRENT AEROSPACE INSTRUCTOR IS A FORMER AVIATION MECHANIC FROM THE MILITARY, AND HE HAS A GREAT REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE THAT HE COULD SHARE WITH KIDS AS FAR AS WHAT YOU DO WITH THOSE SKILLS. BUT ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A GREAT BACKGROUND IN, IN THAT SPACE. OUR, UH, BIOMEDICAL TEACHER, SHE COMES OUT OF A LABORATORY SPACE, UM, FOR MEDICAL. SO AGAIN, UM, THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT SO COOL IS THE KIDS CAN REALLY CONNECT TO FOLKS THAT COME OUT OF THOSE REAL LIFE JOBS. AND WE MAY SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THIS, BUT BASICALLY HOW DOES A CHARTER SCHOOL WORK? BECAUSE, UH, THESE STUDENTS DON'T HAVE TO PAY. I MEAN, LET'S NO, RIGHT. SO YEAH, EXPLAIN. WE ARE A PUBLIC SCHOOL, SO WE WENT TO THIS STATE CHARTER DISTRICT AND ASKED TO BE CHARTERED THROUGH THEIR, UM, APPLICATION MECHANISM. SO [05:00:01] WE ARE FUNDED WITH STATE DOLLARS THAT FOLLOW UP PER PUPIL ALLOCATION TO OUR SCHOOL. PARENTS AND FAMILIES DO NOT PAY TUITION. WE FUNCTION JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PUBLIC SCHOOL. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS ESOL PROGRAM FOR OUR ENGLISH SECOND LEARNERS. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM. SO EVERYTHING THAT A PUBLIC SCHOOL OFFERS, WE OFFER. WHAT'S DIFFERENT IS OUR ABILITY TO CHANGE UP THE CURRICULUM, OUR ABILITY TO BE INNOVATIVE AND OFFER A NEW LEARNING STYLE, UM, FOR STUDENTS AND ANOTHER CHOICE, UM, FOR PARENTS LIVING IN THE LOW COUNTRY. OKAY. UM, WOW. SO NOW YOU JUST SAID THAT YOU'RE, YOU ARE GROWING, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE K THROUGH 12. YES. SO WITH THE EXPANSION, I GUESS THERE'S NEED FOR NEW FACILITIES. OH YES. , IF YOU DRIVE DOWN GRACE HIGHWAY IN RIDGELAND, YOU'LL SEE THIS MASSIVE THREE STORY STRUCTURE RIGHT ON, RIGHT ON THE ROAD. UM, WE HAVE THREE STORIES OF CLASSROOM SPACE ON ONE SIDE THAT IS, UM, 17,000 SQUARE FEET FOR OUR K FIVE. AND THEN THE OTHER SIDE IS THE COMPETITIVE GYMNASIUM SPACE THAT WILL HOUSE OUR K FIVE. AND THEN JUST ACROSS THE STREET IS OUR SIX 12, UM, STRUCTURE THAT WE'VE ALREADY BUILT IN 2018 AND IS OCCUPIED. SO THAT FACILITY, THE MIDDLE HIGH WILL HOLD 300 STUDENTS AND OUR K FIVE FACILITY CAN HOLD TWO 50 TO 300. SO WE'RE GONNA BE A, A NICE LITTLE CAMPUS, UM, AND AK 12 CONTINUUM FOR FAMILIES. AND YOU MENTIONED GYMNASIUM. SO TELL ME, I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAD, UH, ATHLETICS. YES. SO THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST POPULAR FEATURE OF OUR EXPANSION . UM, THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER SOCCER. A LOT OF US LOST OUR SPORTS PROGRAMS BECAUSE OF COVID, SO WE HAD TO KIND OF REBOOT. UM, WE HAD A SOCCER TEAM THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE A CROSS COUNTRY TEAM, AND THEN WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE OTHER SPORTS THAT WE WANNA ROLL OUT. SO YES, WE WILL HAVE COMPETITIVE TEAMS. IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE THE SPACE TO PROVIDE IN THAT SMALL ENVIRONMENT. SO, UM, OUR LEARNERS ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO COMPETITIVE SPORTS, BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S MAYBE A GREAT FOOTBALL PLAYER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY CAN STILL GO TO YOUR SCHOOL AND THEY CAN YES. SO WHAT'S VERY, SO WHAT'S VERY COOL IS BY LAW YOU CAN PLAY AT YOUR NEIGHBORING DISTRICT THAT YOUR ZONE FOUR. SO YOU COULD PLAY FOOTBALL IF YOU WERE IN HARDY BILL OR IN RIDGELAND FOR EITHER OF THOSE TEAMS AT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BE A STUDENT WITH US. OKAY. WOW. WHAT HAPPENING OVER, YEAH, AND UM, ALSO SOME EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, POSSIBLY ON THE RISE, BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS OVER THERE RECENTLY WITH THE, UM, ARTIST IN RESIDENCE. YES. AND SOME STUDENTS WERE TALKING ABOUT ART. SO YES. SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY, AGAIN, TO BE CREATIVE AND WE DO A LOT OF EXTRACURRICULAR PROGRAMMING THROUGH CLUBS. UM, WE HAVE A VERY POPULAR ROBOTICS CLUB THAT HAS TRAVELED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO COMPETE. THEY'VE DONE VERY WELL. THEY LOVE ROBOTICS. IF YOU LOVE ART AND WE SEE THE INTEREST, WE CAN START AN ART CLUB OR A MUSIC CLUB. UM, THIS YEAR WE HELD A TALENT SHOW AND I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE AMOUNT OF TALENT IN OUR BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING THOSE PROGRAMS. SO WE, WE FIND WAYS TO ADD THE ARTS INTO OUR PROGRAM. SO YOU MAY HAVE A PROJECT THAT INVOLVES ART BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO EXPRESS, UM, WHAT YOU'VE LEARNED IN THAT PROJECT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CREATIVE CAPABILITY FOR STUDENTS, WHETHER IT'S DIGITAL ART, VISUAL ART, MUSIC, ART. IF YOU WANTED TO STAND UP AND SING WHAT YOU LEARNED IN YOUR PROJECT, YOU COULD DO THAT OR CHOREOGRAPH A DANCE. I MEAN, WE JUST REALLY GIVE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WHO THEY ARE AND SHINE THE WAY THEY SHINE THE WAY THEY'RE BEST TO. OKAY. JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO TELL US ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON? OH, I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY. WE LOVE JASPER COUNTY. WE SPECIFICALLY LOVE, UM, THE SWEET TOWN OF RICHLAND. AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH NEED OUT THERE WITH THE POPULATION GROWING HERE AND UM, APPARENTLY EVERYONE MOVING TO SOUTH CAROLINA. SO, UM, WE JUST FEEL FORTUNATE TO BE PART OF THAT. AND WE WERE AT THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR, BUT I KNOW FOR YOU ADMINISTRATORS AND STUFF, IT REALLY IS JUST A SHORT BREAK IN THERE. YOU'RE STILL WORKING AND GETTING READY NEXT YEAR, SO IT'S PLANNING TIME . SO GOOD LUCK WITH NEXT YEAR AND ALL THE, UH, NEW GROWTH AND EVERYTHING TAKING PLACE OUT THERE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. WE APPRECIATE IT. , THANKS FOR COMING IN. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. AND WELCOME BACK. I'M JOINED NOW BY MS. TAMIL GOODSON. SHE IS THE FOUNDING PRINCIPAL AT A NEW CHARTER SCHOOL HERE, MEETING STREET CHARTER SCHOOL, AND THAT'S GONNA BE HERE IN HARDY BELT. THANKS FOR JOINING ME. YEAH, IT'S A PLEASURE. UM, TO BE HERE, TO BE HERE WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT MEETING STREET JASPER BUFORD AND THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT. THIS IS A BRAND NEW SCHOOL. WHERE ARE YOU GUYS GONNA BE LOCATED? UH, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE YOU EXPECTING? WHAT GRADES WOULD START? LET'S JUST HIT ALL OF THAT RIGHT OFF THE TOP. YEAH. SO AT MEETING STREET JASPER BUFORD, WE BELIEVE [05:05:01] THAT ALL STUDENTS DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACHIEVE. AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT BY PROVIDING AN EXCELLENT EDUCATION. WE ARE OPENING OUR DOORS THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR TO RISING KINDERGARTNERS AND FIRST GRADERS, AND OUR PLAN IS TO EXPAND ALL THE WAY TO 12TH GRADE. SO WE WANNA SEE OUR STUDENTS TOO. AND THROUGH COLLEGE, UH, WE WILL OPEN THIS UPCOMING YEAR AND WE WILL BUILD A GRADE EACH YEAR FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE ARE LOCATED AT 85 75 EAST ARGENT PARKWAY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH OLD FIELD. WE ARE DIRECTLY LOCATED ACROSS THERE, AND YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR LOCATION@MEETINGSTREETSCHOOLS.ORG SLASH M JASPER BUFORT. AND THE EXCITING THING ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THIS WORK IS JUST WE, FROM THE VERY MOMENT STUDENTS ENTER OUR DOORS, ARE INSTILLING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM THIS COLLEGE MINDSET AND WANT TO LET OUR FAMILIES KNOW THAT COLLEGE IS POSSIBLE, IT'S POSSIBLE FOR THEIR SCHOLARS, AND WE WANT TO SEE THEM TOO, AND THROUGH, UM, ALL THE WAY TO COLLEGE AND BEYOND. SO, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS NOW, BUT YOU ARE STARTING IN THE FALL. SO HOW CAN PEOPLE GO AHEAD AND GET ENROLLED AND REGISTER AND ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS? YES, IT IS A REALLY EASY, UH, APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU CAN FIND OUR APPLICATION ON OUR WEBSITE. UM, AGAIN, THAT WEBSITE, THAT WEB ADDRESS IS, UM, MEETING STREET SCHOOLS.ORG/MS JASPER BUFORD. AND ONCE YOU'RE ON OUR PAGE, IT'S VERY EASY TO NAVIGATE. CLICK THE LINK, THERE'S AN APPLICATION PROCESS. UM, FROM THERE. ANOTHER GREAT THING JUST ABOUT THIS APPLICATION PROCESS AND REGISTRATIONS IS THAT EVERY SINGLE FAMILY THAT HAS ENROLLED I HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH, AND THEY FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE REACHING OUT TO ME TO GET SUPPORT. IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALL FAMILIES WHO HAVE QUESTIONS WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT ENROLLING THEIR SCHOLARS. AND SO ONCE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND YOU GET TO OUR PAGE TO NAVIGATE, YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION ON HOW TO CONTACT ME, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO TUITION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, YOU JUST HAVE TO REGISTER AND ENROLL AND, AND, AND BE SELECTED, I GUESS. YES, TUITION FREE. THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT THING. QUALITY EDUCATION FOR EVERY SINGLE STUDENT BECAUSE THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE AND IT'S TUITION FREE. AND WE'VE ALSO WON, JUST HEARD THE NEEDS, UH, FROM FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE TALKED TO FAMILIES. WE WANNA CREATE JUST NOT ANY EDUCATIONAL MODEL, BUT ONE THAT IS A NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH OUR PARENTS'. VOICE INCLUDED. PARENTS EXPRESS THE NEED ABOUT WORKING FAMILIES. AND HOW, UH, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM JUST WILL THAT BE AVAILABLE? IT IS AVAILABLE TO EVERY SINGLE STUDENT, AND THAT IS ALSO TUITION FREE. EVERY SINGLE STUDENT WHO ENTERS OUR DOORS THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR, WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM FOR FREE. NOW, I DROVE THROUGH, UH, EAST SERGEANT, OH, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THERE IN A WHILE, BUT I KNOW ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE. BUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR STARTING A NEW SCHOOL? I MEAN, I USED TO SEE YOU COME INTO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS AND ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS. SO JUST TAKE US THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE AND WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. SO THIS PROCESS, AS YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A LOT IN THIS PROCESS, BUT IT'S VERY REWARDING. AND I WISH THAT I COULD TAKE CREDIT FOR IT ALL. BUT IT STARTS WITH, UH, A GROUP OF PEOPLE, THE THE FOUNDING COMMITTEE WHO COME TOGETHER AND DECIDE THAT THEY WANT SOMETHING WITHIN A COMMUNITY. THEY CREATE ALL OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT, UM, IN THE MODEL FOR THIS SCHOOL. AND, UM, I'M GRATEFUL THAT I WAS SELECTED TO BE THE FOUNDING FACE OF THIS SCHOOL, BUT TO START A SCHOOL, IT STARTS WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS VISION. AND OUR VISION, AGAIN, WAS FOR EVERY SINGLE STUDENT TO HAVE ACCESS TO A QUALITY EDUCATION. AND NOW YOU TALK ABOUT YOU REALLY, UH, UH, FOCUSING ON GETTING YOUR STUDENTS READY FOR COLLEGE LIFE. UM, WHERE DO YOU FIND YOUR TEACHERS AND, AND WHERE DO YOU GET THEM FROM, UH, OR THE SELECTION PROCESS FOR THAT AT MEETING STREET SCHOOLS? UH, WE HIRE TEACHERS WHO HAVE AN UNWAVERING BELIEF THAT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT CAN ACCESS AND WILL HAVE A QUALITY EDUCATION, UM, AND THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE. SO WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING EVERYWHERE FOR QUALITY EDUCATIONS. AND I WILL SAY IF, IF PEOPLE COME TO US AND THEY DON'T HAVE A BELIEF THAT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT TO DO CAN DO THIS, UM, DO EDUCATION AND CAN SUCCEED, THEN WE JUST DO NOT, UM, WE DON'T WANT TEACHERS LIKE THAT IN OUR BUILDING. AND WE GO THROUGH A VERY EX EXTENSIVE, UM, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO TRAIN OUR TEACHERS. AND THAT'S A MONTH LONG PROCESS. MOST SCHOOLS START BACK DAY ONE, UH, MAYBE A FEW DAYS BEFORE STUDENTS COME TO THE BUILDING, BUT WE, OUR TEACHERS WILL ACTUALLY START BACK JULY 10TH, AND OUR STUDENTS WILL COME BACK ON AUGUST 8TH. SO THAT'S ALMOST A MONTH LONG PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TRAINING FOR TEACHERS. AND LUCKILY, UH, MOST OF OUR TEACHERS HAVE COME FROM WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY. THEY GREW UP IN THIS COMMUNITY, [05:10:01] THEY WENT THROUGH THE EDUCATIONAL, UH, SYSTEM IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND THEY ALSO, AS TEACHERS NOW, UM, SEE THE EDUCATION THAT WE HAVE AND LOVE TO JOIN OUR MISSION AND OUR VISION TO DO EXACTLY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE EVERY STUDENT ACHIEVES. CAN YOU ASK THIS? NOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CHARTER SCHOOLS AROUND HERE. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AROUND HERE. IS THERE A NEED? IS THERE ENOUGH STUDENTS OUT THERE THAT, UM, TO BRING ANOTHER CHARTER SCHOOL IN THIS AREA? I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH STUDENTS, AND IT IS DEFINITELY A NEED, UM, FOR MORE CHOICE. FAMILIES HAVE A CHOICE. AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT OUR MODEL WILL EVEN BE A MODEL THAT ALL FAMILIES WILL FEEL IS A FIT FOR THEIR STUDENTS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR A MORE CHOICE IN QUALITY EDUCATION AND WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UH, JUST GROWING THERE, THERE'S ENOUGH STUDENTS AND EVERY SINGLE STUDENT DESERVES A QUALITY EDUCATION. SO RATHER IT'S IN OUR SCHOOL AT MEETING STREET JASPER BEAUTIFUL OR ANOTHER SCHOOL, I DO BELIEVE THAT PARENTS WILL CHOOSE A SCHOOL THAT IS A PERFECT FIT. UM, AND AS SOMEONE WHO IS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS WORK, I AM OKAY WITH STUDENTS. UM, BEING WHEREVER IS A PERFECT FIT FOR THEM. UH, AND WE ARE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SCHOOL IS A PERFECT FIT FOR THE STUDENTS WHO ENROLL WITH US. OKAY. EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR NEW PRINCIPAL. TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF AND YOUR EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND AND HOW YOU ENDED UP, UH, WITH THIS POSITION. LOVE TO TELL THAT STORY. UM, IT IS HONESTLY THE DRIVER BEHIND THIS WORK AND WHY I AM HERE. I'VE ALWAYS, MY ENTIRE LIFE WANTED TO BE AN EDUCATOR. I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO WORK WITH KIDS, UM, FAMILIES. AND I GREW UP IN A LITTLE SMALL TOWN CALLED GAFNEY, SOUTH CAROLINA. AND WHERE I GREW UP, THERE AREN'T MANY SCHOOL CHOICES. UH, SO WHERE WE ALL WENT TO ONE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, RIGHT THERE IN GAFFNEY. AND I WENT ON TO COLLEGE AND IT WAS IN COLLEGE THAT I KNEW AFTER SEEING EDUCATION AND THE EDUCATION SYSTEM THAT I WANTED TO BE, UM, AN EDUCATOR AND DO MORE WORK AROUND EDUCATION. SO I WENT ON TO TEACH IN CHARLESTON COUNTY FOR A FEW YEARS AND MOVED BACK TO SPARTANBURG, SOUTH CAROLINA, WHERE I FOUND MEETING STREET SPARTAN, UM, MEETING STREET ACADEMY SPARTANBURG, AND TAUGHT THERE FOR A FEW YEARS, WAS A DEAN OF CURRICULUM THERE. SO I HELPED COACH TEACHERS AND OUR SCHOOL AT THE CAMPUS THERE FOR A FEW YEARS AND AM STILL WORKING REALLY HARD IN OUR NETWORK TO PROVE WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR KIDS. THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING A FOUNDING PRINCIPAL PRESENTED ITSELF. AND BEFORE I EVEN KNEW EXACTLY WHAT JASPER COUNTY, BEAUFORT COUNTY EXACTLY WAS, I KNEW THAT I WANTED TO MOVE HERE AND DO THE WORK. IT WAS THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD WAS THE INTERNET AND WHAT WAS THERE. AND AFTER DRIVING THROUGH AND COMING, I'M LIKE, I TOLD MYSELF THIS IS HOME AND THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE NEED TO BRING OUR MODEL, OUR SCHOOL MODEL, AND OF THE MEETING STREET SCHOOL MODEL AND GIVE, LET THIS BE A CHOICE FOR FAMILIES. SO NOW THAT I AM HERE, I DO FEEL LIKE I'M A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY EVEN MORE, JUST SPENDING TIME WITH OUR FAMILIES AND THE STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY ENROLLED. I FEEL LIKE THERE IS, UM, A RELATIONSHIP THERE AND REALLY HAPPY THAT MY JOURNEY HAS LED ME TO THIS COUNTY TO PROVE WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR KIDS. AND YOU'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT WILL MAKE THIS EXPERIENCE SO GREAT FOR THE CHILDREN THAT ARE COMING IN? EXCELLENT. UM, INSTILLING THAT MINDSET. I STARTED WITH AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN YOU ASKED JUST MORE ABOUT OUR SCHOOL. FROM THE MOMENT STUDENTS ENTER OUR DOORS, WE ARE GOING TO INSTILL IN THEM THIS COLLEGE MINDSET AND THAT IS GOING TO GUIDE EVERY DECISION THAT WE MAKE IN OUR BUILDING. FIRST, STARTING WITH OUR TWO TEACHER MODEL. THERE'S TWO TEACHERS IN EVERY LOWER GRADE CLASSROOMS, UM, TO GIVE STUDENTS DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATED INSTRUCTION, SMALL GROUP, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT STUDENTS DESERVE THAT. IF WE REALLY WANNA GET STUDENTS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE, WE HAVE TO BE INTENTIONAL ON HOW WE DIFFERENTIATE. SO THIS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT OUR TEACHERS ARE GOING THROUGH FOR ALMOST A MONTH IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO GIVE STUDENTS DIFFERENTIATED INSTRUCTION, BUT ALSO OUR RIGOROUS, UH, ACADEMIC CURRICULUM. OUR CURRICULUM IS AN AMAZING CURRICULUM THAT IS GONNA SET STUDENTS UP FOR SUCCESS. WE HAVE A FOCUS ON READING THE SCIENCE OF READING, WHICH IS REALLY POPULAR NOW IN MAKING SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE STUDENT LEAVE KINDERGARTEN AND FIRST GRADE ON GRADE LEVEL SO THAT THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN MATH AND READING. AND ALSO THAT WE'VE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AND WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE NEEDS. AND OUR MODEL HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE NEED DOWN TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM IS AFFORDABLE FOR FAMILIES. OKAY. JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK JUST ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING UP THAT I MAY NOT HAVE ASKED. [05:15:01] I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT, UH, I AM REALLY EXCITED TO NOW BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WITH OUR MISSION AND OUR MODEL AND JUST THE PASSION AROUND THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE HIRED WHO ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE KID IS SUCCESSFUL, EVERY SINGLE STUDENT, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY. AND ALTHOUGH I WANT TO TAKE THE CREDIT FOR A LOT OF THIS WORK AND SAY THAT I, I'M GIVING STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ACHIEVE, I WANT OUR FAMILIES TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT THEIR STUDENTS CAN GET TO COLLEGE AND THAT IT'S POSSIBLE. AND THAT THEY'RE TRUSTING ME WITH THE BEST THING THAT THEY HAVE. AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY MY GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE INSTILLED WITH THE COLLEGE MINDSET AND THEY ARE EQUIPPED AND SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO LOVE AND BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN DO IT. MR. DIL, GOOD SENSE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN. UH, WE WISH YOU THE BEST WITH THIS UPCOMING SCHOOL YEAR. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US NOW. IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS FOR TOPICS OR SUBJECTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE ON SPEAKING OF HARDEE, GO, PLEASE CONTACT US AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME HERE ON. SPEAKING OF HARDEE, GO, WE CAUGHT A LOT OF FISH. WE FILLED UP FIVE BUCKETS. WE GOT A LOT. WE GOT A COUPLE TINY ONES AND A COUPLE BIG ONES. YEAH. NATIONAL KIDS TO PARK STATE IS AN EVENT THAT'S HELD OUT EVERY YEAR THROUGH PARKS AND STATES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY SO THAT KIDS CAN GET BEHI FROM BEHIND THE SCREENS, GET OUTDOORS AND FALL IN LOVE WITH THE NATURAL WORLD AROUND THEM. HARDY V JUST SO HAPPENS TO DO THEIR SWEAT CATFISH, AND I'M SURE YOU CAN SEE SOME PEOPLE BEHIND ME CATCHING THE FISH. IT IS AMAZING AND IT'S JUST VERY GRATIFYING TO GET TO SEE THE KIDS OUT HERE CATCHING FISH AND GETTING TO EXPERIENCE THE NATURAL WORLD. GET SOME INTERESTED IN FISHING, IN, YOU KNOW, THE OUTDOORS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY NEED TO BE DOING. YEAH, I AGREE. IT BRINGS THE LOCAL PEOPLE OUT. UM, FOR SOME, UM, KIDS HERE DON'T EVER GET FISH, SO THEY COME HERE AND THEY CAN LEARN THEIR FUNDAMENTALS OF FISHING AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. YOU GOT THIS WHOLE BUCKET AND THE OTHER ONE, I GOT A BIGGER ONE IN THAT BUCKET. AND WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE PART ABOUT JUST BEING OUT HERE? CATCHING A FISH? ACTUALLY JUST CATCHING. I LIKE TO CATCH. WE USUALLY HANDLE THE BAIT AS YOU CAN SEE. WE HANDLE THE BAIT FOR EVERYBODY THAT HAS A BAIT TO FISH WITH. AND WE DO THE, UH, REHOOK AND RELINING OF FISHING CANE POLES TOO. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT HERE TO HELP SUPPORT OUR, OUR REC DEPARTMENT AND, AND, AND PUTTING THOSE NICE PROGRAMS FOR THE KIDS. AND EVERYBODY JUST COMES TOGETHER. EVERYONE FROM THE CITY COMES OUT AND SHOWS THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS EVENT. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS PROVIDING SAFETY AND ALSO ASSISTING SOME OF THE, UH, THE YOUNG KIDS THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE A FISH OFF THE LINE OR, OR HELPING THEM WITH THAT OR COACHING THEM. JUST BEING OUT HERE AS A SAFETY, UH, TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE. WHAT YOU BEEN DOING WITH COME CATCHING ALL THE FISH. CATCHING ALL THE FISH. THAT'S RIGHT. AND DO YOU ENJOY COMING OUT HERE EVERY YEAR, COMING EVER SINCE THEY'VE HAD ONE? YES. YES MA'AM. IT'S ONE OF THEIR FAVORITE EVENTS THAT THE CITY DOES. WATCHING THE KIDS CATCH FISH, THAT'S A GREAT THING. AND WATCHING, HAVING SMILES ON THEIR FACE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO IT'S JUST A GREAT THING FOR THE CITY TO PUT ON EVERY YEAR. WE ENJOY PUTTING IT ON. OUR FAMILIES ARE HAVING FUN, KIDS ARE HAVING FUN. UH, IT'S A GOOD TIME. MY LITTLE BOY, HE'S CALLED, UH, ABOUT A BUCKET FULL OF FISH. SO IT'S JUST BEEN AN OUTSTANDING MORNING. I'M HERE TODAY, UH, AS PART OF THE EXHIBIT AT THE MORRIS CENTER FOR LOWCOUNTRY HERITAGE. UM, I'M ABLE TO GO TO A COUPLE OF SCHOOLS AND SHARE WHAT I'M DOING WITH THE STUDENTS. IT'S REALLY, IT'S ALWAYS EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WHAT I'M DOING WITH OTHERS WHO IS STRONG THAT [05:20:12] THE MORRIS CENTER WANTED TO GIVE STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET THE ARTIST HERSELF. SO, UM, WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE HOSTING HER TO COME HERE TODAY AS WELL AS TO ANOTHER SCHOOL IN RIDGELAND. SO WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO, TO BRING THIS OPPORTUNITY TO YOU GUYS. HI EVERYONE. MY NAME'S KIRKLAND SMITH AND I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT I CAN COME HERE TODAY AND SHARE WITH YOU WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS EXPLAIN WHY I'M DOING WHAT I'M DOING. UM, 'CAUSE I DIDN'T ASPIRE TO BE A TRASH ARTIST OR, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH TRASH. BUT, BUT THERE IS A, A MESSAGE AND A MEANING BEHIND THE WORK THAT I'M DOING. AND I FEEL LIKE EVERY ARTIST HAS THEIR ART JOURNEY. BEFORE I STARTED DOING THIS WORK, I WAS PAINTER. I LOVED DOING PORTRAITS, I LOVE FACES. I WAS WORKING IN OIL PAINT, PASTELS, CHARCOAL, AND I LOVE THAT I'M TALKING TO ART STUDENTS BECAUSE MAYBE I'LL HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THIS MATERIAL. AND SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS DOING, ONE OF THE THINGS I DECIDED TO DO TO CHALLENGE MYSELF AS AN ARTIST WAS TO ENTER AN ART COMPETITION, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN SCHOOL FOR A LONG TIME. AND I THINK THAT LIKE, WHEN YOU'RE IN SCHOOL, YOU HAVE ASSIGNMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND YOU TRY TO CREATE A PROJECT FOR THAT GIVES YOU A PROBLEM TO SOLVE. AND SO THE COMPETITION THAT I ENTERED WAS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LANDSCAPE, AND THE ARTISTS WERE ASKED TO PICK AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THAT'S A PROBLEM, SOMETHING IN OUR WORLD, AND CREATE ART OUT OF IT. AND SO I STARTED JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT. AND AT THE TIME I HAD FOUR LITTLE CHILDREN AND I WAS JUST VERY AWARE OF HOW MUCH LIKE PLASTIC STUFF CAME INTO OUR HOUSE. THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS THAT EVERYBODY CAN EXPRESS ART. LIKE HE TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT MEDIUMS YOU CAN USE, AND THERE'S LIKE COLORED PENCILS AND MARKERS SHE USES, YOU KNOW, TRASH THAT WE FIND THAT IS WASTE. SO I FIND IT VERY INTERESTING. YEAH, SAME AS WELL. IT WAS, UH, VERY UNIQUE TO SEE AND, UH, A GOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE. AND IT, I THINK, OPENED MY EYES PERSONALLY IN A NEW WAY OF ART AND HOW ART CAN BE CREATED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. MOSTLY, I JUST, I WANNA CONNECT WITH STUDENTS. I FEEL LIKE ART IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO THAT. I THINK THAT PART OF ANY ARTWORK, THE ARTIST DOES THEIR PART AND I HAVE MY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT I'M DOING, BUT THEN THE VIEWER BRINGS THEIR EXPERIENCES AND THEIR THOUGHTS TO THE WORK AS WELL. AND THEY MIGHT CONNECT WITH IT IN SOMETIMES A DIFFERENT WAY THAN I'M MEANT FOR THEM TO. BUT IT'S, IT'S VALID. IT'S STILL VERY GOOD. I FEEL LIKE BECAUSE THIS WORK IS SO ACCESSIBLE TO CHILDREN OF ALL AGES, UH, I FEEL LIKE IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION TO START WITH KIDS ABOUT JUST EXPLORING AND TRYING NEW THINGS. I DON'T DO ART THAT OFTEN, BUT MY OLDER BROTHER DOES ART AS WELL. AND WHEN I WATCH HIM CREATE HIS PIECES, I LEARN MORE AND MORE. AND I AM BEGINNING TO BECOME MORE INTERESTED IN ART. AND FROM THIS PRESENTATION, I THINK BACK TO MAYBE A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS IN FIFTH GRADE AND WE HAD TO CREATE THIS PROJECT OUT OF POPSICLE STICKS AND LIKE GLUE THEM TOGETHER AND BUILD A BRIDGE AND A STRENGTH TEST. AND I'M JUST THINKING HOW SHE DID THIS ART WITH TRASH AND HOW SHE REUSED IT AND IT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL. AND HOW THE SAME ART BUT IN DIFFERENT WAYS CAN BE CREATED AS WELL. I DO LIKE TO SHARE WITH STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, I, IT USED TO BE MY SECRET, BUT I LIKE TO SHARE WITH THEM THAT I TRIED, YOU KNOW, ENTERING A COMPETITION AND I WAS REJECTED. A STUDENT TODAY VOLUNTEERED THAT SHE HAD ENTERED A COMPETITION AND SHE GOT THIRD PRIZE MADE, LIKE THESE PROPS OUT OF LIKE, AND IT KIND OF REMINDED ME OF HER BECAUSE I HAD TO USE LIKE A STYROFOAM THING TO MAKE A TABLE FOR A FLOWER SHOP. I BOUGHT LIKE FAKE PLANTS AND I USED POSTER BOARD AS A BACKGROUND TO MAKE LIKE THE FLOWER SHOP LOOKING. SO IT LOOKED LIKE A REAL FLOWER SHOP. AND IF YOU BACKED UP, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ONE. IF YOU WENT CLOSER, YOU WOULD SEE IT KIND OF. BUT THAT'S WHAT MY WORK ON. DO WHAT YOU LOVE AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA SAY, SAY IT AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT. BUT, UH, BUT REALIZE THAT ART IS SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, DRAWING WITH PENCIL AND PAPER. IT CAN BE, YOU CAN MAKE ART, ART OUT OF ANYTHING. I LIKE THE MARILYN MONROE, UH, ARTWORK. PERSONALLY. I, UM, HAVE A POSTER OUT OF HER AT HOME AND I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY COOL TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THE PORTRAITS ARE REALLY AMAZING HOW SHE [05:25:01] BRINGS A LIFE, UM, FROM ART. WHAT ABOUT YOU? MINES WAS LIKE THE SWANS THAT SHE DID, OR I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT BIRD IT WAS, BUT IT WAS LIKE THOSE, OR LIKE, I THINK IT WAS A CRANES OR PARENTS OR PARENTS. BUT IT'S BECAUSE LIKE I LOVE BIRDS LIKE THAT. AND AT THE MOORE CENTER, I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE, SO I SAW LIKE ONE OF THEM WITH THE FLYING BIRD AND IT WAS REALLY PRETTY. 'CAUSE WHEN YOU BACKED UP YOU COULD SEE IT. AND EVEN WHEN YOU CLOSED UP, YOU SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT SHE USED TO MAKE THAT, AS HE SAID, LIKE COME ALIVE, THAT YOU FOUND IT WAS REALLY PRETTY. OKAY. SO I'LL BE HERE AT THE MORRIS CENTER UNTIL THE SHOW WILL BE UP UNTIL JULY 15TH. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA DO A WORKSHOP ON JUNE 10TH, WHICH IS A SATURDAY, UH, LIKE A THREE HOUR WORKSHOP. AND FOR PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP FOR THAT, I'LL BRING ALL THE MATERIALS. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST BRING YOURSELF. AND WHAT I WANNA DO IS JUST GUIDE PEOPLE THROUGH MY PROCESS SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE A SUCCESSFUL PIECE. WE COME TO YOU, EXCUSE ME, WE COME TO YOU THIS HOUR ASKING FOR YOUR BLESSING AND HELP. AS WE ARE GATHERING, WE PRAY FOR GUIDANCE IN THE MATTERS AT HAND, AND ASK THAT YOU WOULD CLEARLY SHOW US HOW TO CONDUCT OUR WORK WITH THE SPIRIT OF JOY AND ENTHUSIASM IN YOUR JESUS. IN JESUS' NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE PLAQUE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC WHICH STANDS ONE NATION INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY. AND I JUSTICE. FROM FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY, UM, A TAX MEETING. DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. NEXT, WE'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW AT LARGE MEMBER, DR. ALLEN WOODELL FROM THE WOODELL CAPITAL CHIROPRACTIC. HELLO. HI. I NEED TO PUSH THIS. SORRY. NO, YOU'RE ON, YOU'RE ON. UH, HI EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UH, PLEASURE TO SERVE AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON THESE PROJECTS. WELCOME TO HARDY. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE, UH, TAX FUNDS FOR THE QUARTERLY REPORT. MS. . THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, COMMITTEE CHAIR AND MEMBERS. UM, THIS IS FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER ENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023. UM, THE BALANCE OF JULY AS OF JULY 1ST, 2022. THE FIRST OF THE YEAR WAS 1 48, 2 13. ALL THE CASH RECEIPTS THAT CAME IN. WE HAD OUR FIRST QUARTERLY STATE DISTRIBUTION ON 10 24 OF 22 FOR 58, 9 67. OUR SECOND QUARTERLY STATEMENT DISTRIBUTION ON 1 26 OF 23 FOR 51 9 1 9. OUR THIRD ONE CAME IN IN APRIL ON APRIL 26TH, AND IT'S 53 58. WE STILL HAVE ONE MORE LEFT. IT DOESN'T USUALLY COME IN UNTIL THE END OF JULY. YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER ON. OTHER REIMBURSEMENTS. WE HAD A REIMBURSEMENT OR REFUND FROM JASPER COUNTY RADIO CAMPAIGN OF 186 AND THE SUN CITY PICKLEBALL REIMBURSEMENT OF 1 39 TOTAL CASH RECEIPTS, 1 61 5 69 CASH PAID OUT. SUN CITY PICKLEBALL CLUB ON IN FEBRUARY WAS 14,825 SOUTH CAROLINA LOW COUNTRY TOURISM COMMISSION. IN FEBRUARY WAS 11 7 50. THE JASPER COUNTY, JASPER COUNTY, SHAME OF COMMERCE CAME IN. THESE ARE FOR, UM, FISCAL YEAR 2024, BUT THEY WERE APPROVED IN MAY FOR THE BILLBOARDS, DIGITAL ADVERTISEMENT, RADIO ADVERTISEMENT, AND VISITOR CENTER OPERATIONS. UM, THEN WE HAD THE CITY OF HARDY V, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT COME IN AND ASK FOR MONEY FOR THE FESTIVAL ON MAINE IN MAY AND THE DOG PARK IN MAY. ALL OF THAT TOTALING ONE THOU 167,784. THE BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2023 IS $141,998. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [05:30:01] NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 2024, UH, DMO ANNUAL BUDGET FOR JASPER COUNTY. HOW OLD ARE YOU, KENDALL? GOOD MORNING. MORNING. UM, CINDY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WASN'T ALL THAT JUST THE INDIRECT, UM, THAT YOU YEAH, WELL, YEAH, THAT, SO NORMALLY THE FUNDS THAT ARE APP APPROVED THAT I JUST WENT OVER IS ALL FROM THE INDIRECT FUND. WE HAVE FROM THE INDIRECT, AND THEN WE HAVE A DIRECT FUND. THE DIRECT FUND IS THE DMO, WHICH IS WHAT KENDALL TOLD. THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE GOING OVER TODAY IS THE, UM, DMO MONIES. THE DE THE JASPER COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE SERVES AS THE DESIGNATED MARKETING ORGANIZATION FOR THE CITY OF HARDY V AND THAT IS CONSIDERED THE DIRECT FUND. SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ON ANY OF THAT REPORT, YOU JUST, IT'S NOT ON THERE. SO USUALLY IT'S 30% FROM THE STATE COME THAT COMES BACK FROM THE STATE AND THE CITY OF HARVILLE HAS TO ALLOT IT TO A DESIGNATED MARKETING ORGANIZATION. AND THEY HAVE CHOSEN US AS TO SERVE AS THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS TODAY. UM, YOU GUYS WERE SUBMITTED, THE BUDGET. UM, I BASE THIS COMPLETELY ON SINCE I NEVER REALLY KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH I'M GONNA GET. I HAVE TO BASE IT ON THE PRIOR YEAR, UM, THE YEAR BEFORE WE RECEIVED, UM, 94,000 JUST TO BE SAFE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, I BUDGETED 92. I WILL TELL YOU, HOWEVER, IF IT IS OVER, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN'T SPEND THIS ON ANYTHING BUT HARDY V SO IT GETS SPENT ON HARDY V. IF IT'S OVER, WE JUST, WE CONTINUE TO SPEND IT ON, ON NOTHING BUT HARDY VILLE. UM, SO I ESTIMATED 92,000 IN THE, UM, ADVERTISING, UM, PRINT, DIGITAL BROADCAST, SOCIAL, ET CETERA. YOU'LL SEE THE 63,000. IT INCLUDES THINGS BUT NOT LIMITED TO. WE DO ALL OF THE MARKETING FOR FESTIVAL ON MAINE. THAT USUALLY RUNS AROUND 15 TO $18,000, SOMEWHERE AROUND IN THERE. UM, WE DO THE HOLIDAYS, WHICH IS THE SNOW DAY. THAT'S IN DECEMBER. WE, LAST YEAR WE PROVIDED THE SNOW. UM, WE SPONSORED THE SNOW AND THE SLIDES AND ALL, AND THAT WAS $8,000. UM, WE SPONSORED THE HERITAGE, UM, ON HILTON HEAD, WHICH GIVES HARDY V EXPOSURE BECAUSE WE BRAND HARDY V TO THAT AREA OVER THERE. AND THAT USUALLY RUNS AROUND FIVE TO $6,000. UM, AND ONE OF THE PUBLICATIONS THAT I FORGOT TO BRING WAS SOUTH CAROLINA LIVING MAGAZINE, WHICH IS THE MAGAZINE THAT'S PUT OUT BY PALMED ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE. AND IT, IT GOES REGIONALLY HERE AND IT'S A GREAT, IT'S A GREAT PRINT PIECE. UM, I KNOW YOU GUYS A LOT, SOME OF THE BILLBOARD THROUGH THE INDIRECT, BUT WE ALSO USED A LITTLE BIT OF THE DMO TO PAY FOR SOME OF THE BILLBOARDS AS WELL. UM, AND THEN I BROUGHT SOME SAMPLES, THESE USA TODAY REGIONAL MAGAZINES. WE DO A HUNT AND FISH BECAUSE WE HUNT AND FISH A LOT HERE, . UM, WE DO A GO ESCAPE SOUTHEAST REGION, WHICH IS HERE AND HERE. SOUTHEAST IS GEORGIA, KENTUCKY, THE CAROLINAS, THE GULF COAST, TENNESSEE. I THINK IT INCLUDES KENTUCKY AS WELL. AND THEN WE DO A, UM, NATIONAL PARKS FOR THE SAVANNAH WILDLIFE REFUGE AND WHATNOT. AND I DID, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THESE, I DID DOG EAR WHERE THE AD IS, UM, IN EACH OF THEM, FOR EXAMPLE HERE IS, IT'S A HALF PAGE CARDVILLE AND THE SAME AD RUNS IN EACH OF THEM TO TRY TO VISUALIZE AND GET A BRAND GOING. SO IF WE, THIS YEAR, IF WE GO TO A NEW AD WHEN WE, WE WILL DO THE SAME AD IN ALL OF THEM JUST TO GET, SO THAT'S THE AD THAT'S IN ALL OF THEM THIS YEAR. UM, WE DO, WE DO THE MAPS, WE DO THE LOWCOUNTRY GUIDEBOOK JUST CAME OUT, UM, THIS WEEK, SO YOU'LL BE GETTING A NEW ONE. IT HAS A FULL PAGE ABOUT HARDY VALE IN THERE. WE DO THE HARDY VILLE BROCHURES. I KNOW THIS YEAR I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH NEIL AND WE ARE DOING A WELCOME PACKAGE, UM, WHICH WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THROUGH THE DMO AS WELL. SO THAT'S JUST SOME SAMPLES OF SOME OF THE STUFF WE DO. UM, LIKE IT SAYS HERE, SOME SOCIAL MEDIA, SOME DIGITAL, BUT ALL OF THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INDIRECT THAT WE WERE AWARDED. THAT'S ALL SEPARATE AND THAT'S ALL WHAT THAT PAYS FOR. UM, MARKETING SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE TO CREATE THESE ADS AND TO CREATE CONTENT AND TO TAKE PHOTOS AND VIDEOS AND WHATNOT. THAT'S WHAT THE MARKETING SUPPORT IS. AND THEN, [05:35:01] UM, VISITOR SERVICES AT BOTH THE CENTERS, THE CALLS, THE INFORMATION, AND THEN ADMIN FEES FOR US TO DO ALL THIS. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH. I ALSO HAVE, UM, LAST YEAR'S COMPLETE FINANCIAL STATEMENT IF ANYONE CARES TO SEE WHAT WE SPENT. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK IS JUST HOW MUCH WAS SPENT LAST YEAR? LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY WENT OVER LAST YEAR WE GOT, UM, WE RECEIVED $94,135 55 CENTS. WE SPENT $96,819 20 CENTS. OKAY. SO, UM, BUT THAT 18 OF THAT WAS THESE ADMIN FEES AND WHATNOT, WHICH GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE CHAMBER. SO TECHNICALLY THAT'S ABOUT 20% IS WHAT, WHAT IT, UM, COMES DOWN TO FOR US TO DO ALL THE WORK. SO, AND, AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LOOK AT ANY OF THIS, I'LL BE GLAD TO PASS IT TO YOU, BUT IT'S A ITEMIZED OF EVERYTHING WE SPENT AND THEN THE, THE MONEY WE RECEIVED BY QUARTER. AND THAT'S, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO THROW 'EM AT ME, JUST THROW 'EM AT ME LOUDLY. SURE. UH, WHO ARE YOU USING FOR YOUR, UM, PRINT AND DIGITAL? UH, LIKE WHAT ARE THE COMP, WHAT ARE THE COMPANIES YOU'RE USING TO DO THAT WORK? UM, WE USE, WELL THIS COMES FROM THE GUYS AT LOW COUNTRY TOURIST COMMISSION AND THEY USE COMPASS MEDIA. UM, WE USE ACCURATE LITHOGRAPH TO PRINT THINGS. THE COMPANIES THAT WE ADVERTISE IN HAVE IN-HOUSE. SOME HAVE IN-HOUSE GRAPHICS THAT WE USE. AND THEN WE ALSO USE THE DENARIUS GROUP ON HILTON HEAD. THEY DO A LOT OF OUR MEDIA SCHEDULES AND OUR CREATIONS AND OUR, UM, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY'LL DO AN ENTIRE MEDIA SCHEDULE FOR US FOR THINGS LIKE FESTIVAL MAINE. THEY'LL HAVE THE RADIO SCHEDULE, THE DIGITAL SCHEDULE, THE PRINT SCHEDULE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF WITH THE DENARIUS GROUP. AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB FOR US, AND THEY'RE VERY REASONABLE. SO, AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT YOU SEE UNDER THE MARKETING, UM, SUPPORT. OKAY. THAT TEN TEN ONE, THAT'S, THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DENARIUS AND YOUR PRINT, THESE PRINTED ITEMS LIKE THE BROCHURES AND THE BOOKLETS. WHERE DO THOSE END UP? UM, THEY END UP IN ALL THE WELCOME CENTERS IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND AS FAR AND AS WELL AS OURS HERE IN HARDY AND IN RIDGELAND AND HERE AT HARDY. AND THEN ANYBODY ELSE, LIKE HOTELS OR ANYBODY WHO REQUESTS THEM MM-HMM. , BUT THEY'RE ALL IN THE WELCOME CENTERS AND THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE NEW WELCOME PACKAGE THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER AS WELL. AND WE ALSO INCLUDE THEM IN RELOCATION PACKAGES. WE MAIL OUT QUITE A FEW OF THOSE. WE'LL GET CALLS, PEOPLE ARE RELOCATING AND WE INCLUDE THEM IN THOSE AS WELL. A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL WANNA HOLD AND LOOK, I KNOW EVERYTHING'S KIND OF DIGITAL, BUT THERE ARE THOSE THAT STILL WANNA SEE. SO IT'S A RETIREMENT AND ALL OF IT IS DIGITAL AS WELL. YOU CAN PULL IT ALL UP. YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS PRINT STUFF IS ALSO DIGITAL, SO IF THEY DON'T WANNA HOLD THE PRINT, THEY CAN PULL IT OUT. SO I'M, NO, I'M GOOD. I'LL DEFER TO YOU GUYS THAT KINDA SEE THIS FIRSTHAND. I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, BUT SOMETHING I, I PERSONALLY THINK STUFF THAT YOU GUYS DO WORKS. UM, I THINK SO TOO. WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME RIGHT OFF, YOU KNOW, UM, AND ASKING QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THINGS, YOU KNOW, FOR HARDY BILL. SO I MEAN THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEING HARDY BILL'S NAME OUT THERE. WELL, GOOD. THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW. I LIKE TO HEAR THINGS LIKE THAT. KENDALL, AS FAR AS THE OVERAGE THAT YOU SPENT THIS YEAR, DOES THAT COME OUT OF THE OTHER MONEY THAT WE GIVE TO YOU? THAT, UM, NORMALLY BECAUSE IT'S JUST ADMIN FEES, THE CHAMBER ABSORBS THAT COST. OKAY. SO TECHNICALLY I COULD MAKE THAT EVEN OUT. LIKE THAT'S 20, 22%. I THINK I COULD GO TO 20% SAY AND JUST EVEN THAT OUT. TECHNICALLY I COULD DO THAT, BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, BUT THE CHAMBER DOES SOME OF THE CHAMBER COFFERS AS WELL. RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T SEE WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. UM, DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS MOVE TO APPROVE? SECOND. SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AND THANK YOU GUYS. I'LL MAKE MY LIFE EASY. . UM, THE NEXT IS A NOTICE OF OUR NEXT MEETING, OCTOBER 10TH [05:40:01] AT 10:00 AM AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. UH, ONE MORE COMMENT. OKAY. I NOTICE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS FOR THIS, CINDY. UH, WHEN I ARRIVE AT NIGHT, THE LIGHTS ON THE INTERSTATE ARE NOT ON. I MEAN, YOU GOT AT LEAST 10 OR 15 HOLES ON BOTH THAT ARE NOT WORKING. UM, MAYBE IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS, UM, KIND OF KIND OF RIGGING ON THE ONES THAT DON'T WORK AND THEN CALL IT IN THE NEXT MORNING. OKAY. I'LL, I'M, I'M ASSUMING IT'S, UM, ONE OF THOSE WHERE YOU JUST PICK UP THE PHONE CALL IN THE POLL NUMBER AND 48 HOURS, IT'S FIXED. IS IT ON BOTH SIDES? BOTH. BOTH. EXITS. IF SOMETHING WE'RE PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD GET THE LIGHT. IT MIGHT BE, UM, THE ELECTRIC COMPANY, ELECTRIC DOMINION ONE IS DOMINION. SO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE WHAT SIDE OF THE ROAD? RIGHT? YEAH. I'LL LET FOLLOW UP ON THAT. IT OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT. MOVE SECOND. EVERYBODY GO. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. WHAT BROUGHT ME OUT HERE IS I'M PART OF HARDY AND THIS IS PART HARDY, MARK AND RICK'S DOES A FANTASTIC JOB PUTTING ON EVENTS, A FAMILY EVENT LIKE THIS IS, YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE FAMILIES THAT ARE HERE AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. YEAH. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, I WOULD SAY REALLY THIS PAST MONTH. WE PUT UP EVERYTHING YOU SEE, WE PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, WHETHER IT'S FLAGS, GIFTS, TOYS, THE INFLATABLES. SO, AND IT'S BEEN, IT IS BEEN FUN IN THE PROCESS AND IT'S ALL THAT MATTERS THEN WE'RE HAVING FUN. WE ARE REALLY ENJOYING OURSELVES. WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE THING ABOUT BEING OUT HERE? THE MUSIC IS GREAT. LOVE OF MUSIC, LOVE OF SEEING PEOPLE ENJOY IT, FOR THEM TO CLAP, ENJOY IT. LOVE FOR PEOPLE TO DANCE. I KNOW IT'S TOUGH IN MORE THAN LIKE THIS WITH THE HEAT, BUT IT'S MORE OF A, IT'S MORE THAN JUST GETTING PAID FOR THE JOB. COMRADERY. COMRADERY. HAVE A GREAT TIME. JUST HAVE A GREAT TIME TOGETHER. ENJOY EACH OTHER AND JUST ENJOY DOING MUSIC FOR PEOPLE. BECAUSE MUSIC TO ME IS, IS THE, UH, COMMON BOND. WE ARE A RESIDENT OF PARTY NOW. WE CAME FROM WISCONSIN AND WE JUST HAVE TO FIND OUT NEW TRADITIONS FOR THE 4TH OF JULY. IS THIS YOUR FIRST PARTY MEAL EVENT? EXCUSE ME? IS THIS YOUR FIRST PARTY MEAL EVENT? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR THIS EVENT. AND WHAT'S BEEN YOUR FAVORITE THING SO FAR? . SO WE'RE OUT HERE WITH THE CITY OF PARTY BILLS, CELEBRATING THE 4TH OF JULY. AND BEHIND US WE HAVE THE OUTRAGE ROOM, WHICH IS A MOBILE RAGE ROOM. IT IS CENTERED AROUND BRINGING WELLNESS TO COMMUNITIES AND HELPING PEOPLE TO REALLY CHECK IN WITH THEMSELVES AND THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. AND MEL, YOU GOT TO GO IN THERE. HOW WAS IT? OH MY GOSH. SO I WAS LIKE, THREE MINUTES. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ENOUGH TIME. LIKE YEAH. DAMN. NO, THAT WAS A LONG TIME. I FELT LIKE I GOT LIKE A MONTH OR TWO OF THERAPY, JUST AND I GOT A WORKOUT. DID. IT WAS GREAT. AWESOME. WE LOVE THAT. WE LOVE TO HEAR THAT A LOT, LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THEY NEEDED. AND SO WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY IN THE COMMUNITY OF HARVILLE AND HELPING PEOPLE SMASH OUT SOME OF THEIR RAVE TO SEE THE KIDS HAVING A GOOD TIME WITH THIS. WE HAVE VENDORS, THE FOOD VENDORS ARE DOING WELL. EXCELLENT MUSIC COMING ON OUT HERE AND HERE IT IS. AND PEOPLE ARE STILL COMING IN AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE FIREWORKS 'CAUSE I'M JUST LIKE A LITTLE KID WITH FIREWORKS. AND YOU MENTIONED YOU CAME HERE WITH YOUR GRANDSON, CORRECT? YES. HOW DOES IT FEEL JUST BEING ABLE TO BRING HIM TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I'M FORTUNATE THAT MY DAUGHTER, SON-IN-LAW AND THREE GRANDCHILDREN LIVE JUST ACROSS, OVER INTO GEORGIA OVER THERE. SO WE SEE 'EM OFTEN, BUT TO BRING THEM TO AN EVENT LIKE THIS AND LET THEM SEE WHAT A A FAMILY EVENT IS, UH, THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, FESTIVAL ON MAINE THIS FALL. THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING THAT [05:45:01] ONE OUT FOR, FOR THE FAMILY. SO IT'S REALLY GOOD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND HOW PROUD ARE YOU JUST TO BE THE COUNCILMAN OF HARDEE HERE? OH, I COULDN'T BE PROUDER. UM, HARDY IS MY TOWN NOW. THIS IS, THIS IS A TOWN THAT'S GONNA GROW AND I SURE WANNA BE PART OF IT. WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE THING ABOUT 4TH OF JULY WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF FIREWORKS? FIREWORKS? WHAT ABOUT YOU? SAME. UH, DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE FIREWORKS TONIGHT? YEAH, WE DO. WHAT ARE Y'ALL GONNA DO WHEN THE FIREWORKS OUT? I'M GONNA SIT AND LOOK AT IT. WATCH THEM. YOU WATCH THEM? YEAH. DO DO YOU HAVE LIKE A FAVORITE COLOR OF FIREWORKS? PEE. THERE'S LIKE, UM, PEACH AND IT STARTS TO SPRINKLE EVERYWHERE, BUT LIKE, WHEN IT BUMPS IT GO SPRINKLE THE THE ONES. OKAY. AND LAST QUESTION. UM, WHAT DO YOU GUYS DO AT HOME FOR 4TH OF JULY? DO YOU HAVE A BARBECUE? DO YOU HANG OUT WITH FRIENDS? WE SOMETIMES WE DO FIREWORKS. WE JUST GOT HERE PROBABLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO. WE JUST WALKING AROUND TO BROWSING AROUND TO SEE WHAT WE GONNA PURCHASE OR WHATEVER. BUT THE KIDS PLANNING TO GET FACE PAINTING AND SOME TOYS AND LOTS OF FOOD. ARE YOU HAPPY HARDY DOES EVENTS LIKE THIS? YES, WE ARE. WE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT THEY HAVE EVENTS SO WE CAN GET OUT AND ENJOY OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS. YOU GUYS PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TONIGHT AND KEEPING US SAFE ON THE ROADS. THANK YOU FOR THE WEATHER, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT ALWAYS PLEASANT. WE DO NEED THE WATER FOR OUR PLANTS AND TO GROW OUR FOOD. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE ABILITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND ASK YOU TO BLESS OUR CITY, BLESS OUR TOWN, AND HELP US TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR IT. JESUS' NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. ALLEGIANCE AND ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT IS 5:31 PM ON MONDAY, JULY 10TH. HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS DOING WELL. UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. UH, MAY I PLEASE GET APPROVAL OF AGENDA? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION NEEDED FOR THE AGENDA TODAY? OKAY, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. GOOD. UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT, VERY GOOD. ANY PUBLIC TRANSP? YES. YAY. WITH, UM, SHE'S GONNA BE THE, UH, LADY OF THE, OF THE MOMENT. SHE HAS EXCITING UPDATES FOR ALL OF US. UM, AND, UH, YEAH, HI. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. WAIT, CAN YOU HEAR IT? OKAY. GOTCHA. SO, UM, WHOA, WE GOOD? OKAY. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S KIND OF BLANKING OUT ON US, BUT THIS IS JUST A, A RE A PAGE. I, I PROMISED YOU A POWERPOINT AND UM, WHAT I'M TRYING TO PRESENT TO YOU IS NOT TO OVERWHELM YOU OR GIVE YOU TOO MUCH INFORMATION AT ONE TIME, BUT WE'RE PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER SO THAT IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO REVIEW IT AND THEN COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK FOR ANOTHER MEETING. SO, OUR RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX LOCATION, NUMBER ONE, UH, WE PUT TOGETHER AN RFP ASKING FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES TO DO A BUNCH OF PARKING LOT AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS. AND THE REASON WE DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING CONTRACTORS TO RESPOND TO SMALL JOBS. AND SO WE'RE LUMPING EVERYTHING INTO A LARGER JOB. AND WE NOW HAVE NINE PROJECTS IN FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. NOT ALL NINE PERTAIN TO YOU IN THE PARKS AND RECS DIVISION, BUT I WANNA SHOW YOU THE ONES THAT DO. SO WE'VE AWARDED THE CONTRACT TO [05:50:01] EMC ENGINEERING AS OF THURSDAY NIGHT THAT WENT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND WAS APPROVED. LOCATION NUMBER ONE, UH, AS YOU PROBABLY REMEMBER, WAS VALUE ENGINEERED OUT OF THE RECREATION CENTER. IT'S THIS AREA IN YELLOW, IT'S BEHIND THE RECREATION CENTER. SO WHEN YOU WALK IN THE BACK DOOR, UH, WE, WE LOST A LOT OF PARKING BACK THERE, SO THAT'S GONNA HELP TREMENDOUSLY. I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA ALLEVIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, BUT THAT IS PARKING LOT AREA NUMBER ONE. AND, UM, WELL, SOMEHOW THE SLIDES ARE A LITTLE BIT OUT OF ORDER. UH, OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE, BUT, HMM. IT'S NOT LOADING. I'M SORRY. HEY, JUAN? YES? NONE OF THE PICTURES ARE COMING IN. IS THERE A CHANCE YOU'RE SEEING IT ON YOUR SCREEN? OKAY. YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO REDOWNLOAD IT? THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M SO SORRY. OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. STOP FROM THERE. LET'S SEE. THAT SAYS THEY'RE NOT DOWNLOADING. YEAH. UM, OH YEAH, THEY'RE NOT DOWNLOADING ON ANY OF THOSE. OKAY. OH, I, I WAS HOPEFUL THAT MAYBE IT POPPED BACK IN, BUT YEAH, MAYBE IF YOU COULD, I'M SORRY. LITTLE DELAY. IT'S WORTH IT. I PROMISE IT'S EASIER WHEN THERE'S PICTURES. IS IT THE FILE SIZE? MAYBE THAT'S TOO LARGE. LOOKS LIKE IT'S THERE. IT'S USUALLY NOT AN ISSUE. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THERE THOUGH. IT SHOULD PULL UP. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE SIDE. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL UP THE SLIDE. IT MAKES YOU FEEL ANY BETTER. I CAN'T, IT'S NOT LOADING FOR YOU EITHER. MM-HMM. WELL, IT'S TAKING A MINUTE. THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE PROBLEM. MY FACE'S BEEN FUNKY ALL DAY WITH THE STORMS. YEAH. SOMETHING HASN'T BEEN, IT'S BEEN A WONKY YEAH, IT'S IT'S BEEN A LONG ONE DAY. IT'S FLOODED. YEAH. OH DARN THING. REPAIR. I DON'T KNOW. THERE WE GO. YAY. YOU GOT SOME PICTURES? ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S THE USE OF A POWERPOINT IF YOU DON'T HAVE PICTURES? . WELL, EXACTLY. OKAY. SO, UM, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING LOT BEHIND THE REC CENTER BUILDING. I'M GONNA JUST GO DOWN TO A FEW OTHER PAGES HERE. SO IN OUR RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX, AS YOU'RE AWARE, YOU'VE GOT JUJU RIGHT HERE. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS LARGE PARKING LOT HERE, THIS LARGE PARKING LOT HERE. THAT'S ALSO PART OF OUR VARIOUS PARKING LOT AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA GET DESIGNED BY EMC ENGINEERING. AGAIN, THE PICTURES ARE NOT LOADING ON THIS. UM, IT'S, IT'S THINKING ABOUT IT. IT'S BLOCKED IT OUT. DARN IT. WELL, IT'S REDACTED. , MAYBE WE JUST GOTTA PUSH THROUGH. THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. MAYBE THE FILES. YEAH. HMM. OKAY, WELL IT'S NOT GONNA LOAD FOR US. IT'S NOT GONNA LOAD. SO, OH, THERE YOU GO. , ONE OF THE THIRD PARKING LOTS THAT ARE PART OF OUR RFP IS ON RANDALL STREET HERE. WE ACQUIRED WHAT USED TO BE AN OLD CHURCH PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND SO THAT PARKING LOT WILL ALSO BE ATTACHED, UH, VIA A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE BETWEEN THESE TWO PARKING LOTS. SO WE'LL CHANGE THE FENCING HERE TO ACCOMMODATE LOCKING THIS NEW AREA OF PARKING. AND, UM, IT'S JUST EXPANDING ON OUR RICHARD GRAPE COMPLEX IN, IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE SOME OF THESE SPORTING EVENTS AND, AND OTHER EVENTS. UM, I'M GONNA GO, SO IT'S JUST AT A DESIGN PHASE? THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S AT THE DESIGN PHASE, BUT THE OTHER ONE IS NOT. UM, THE OTHER ONE BEING WHICH ONE? THE FIRST ONE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT? NO, THAT, THAT ONE'S BEING PAVED. YEAH. OKAY. BUT THIS ONE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS JUST IN THE DESIGN STAGE. OKAY. SO RIGHT WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFP AND WE AWARDED IT THURSDAY NIGHT, ENGINEERING WILL TAKE ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND START DESIGNING IT, AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT OUT FOR A BID FOR CONTRACTORS TO COME AND, AND BID ON IT. AND AFTER WE AWARD TO A CONTRACTOR, IT'LL BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO NUMBER ONE WAS GYM PARKING LOT. NUMBER TWO WAS, SO RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT A PARKING LOT HERE BEHIND THE REC CENTER RIGHT NOW. THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHERS. THIS ONE WE HAD DESIGNED IN AND THEN VALUE ENGINEERED OUT. SO THIS SHOULD BE A VERY QUICK AND EASY DESIGN FOR OUR NEW, UM, ENGINEER RECORD. ALRIGHT. THAT'S WHY I'M CONFU. OKAY. YES. [05:55:01] OKAY. I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONFUSION NOW. OKAY. SO WHEN THE ORIGINAL DESIGN GOT VALUE ENGINEERED OUT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO RECREATE THE WHEEL FOR THIS. NOW WE DID ORIGINALLY THINK THAT THIS WAS A WETLANDS DELINEATION AND WE'VE LEARNED NOW THAT IT IS NOT. SO THAT'S ALSO GONNA OPEN UP LIKE ANOTHER 10 SPACES, WHICH WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE BACK. SO THAT'LL HAVE TO GET DESIGNED RIGHT HERE, BUT THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE LONG AND IT IS A PRIORITY, SO, ALRIGHT, WE'RE, WE'RE PHASING IT IN A WAY THAT AS SOON AS THE DESIGN WORK IS DONE ON THESE, WE START PUTTING THOSE OUT FOR BID. SO, UM, YEAH, WELL WITHOUT THE PICTURES, UH, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO, TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE TRAIL PROJECT THAT WE'VE STARTED ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THE CONTRACTORS CAME IN AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRAIL PROJECT RUNS BACK HERE AND IT GOES AROUND YOUR LAGOON AND YOU HAVE A BRIDGE ABOUT RIGHT HERE. AND THEN IT PROCEEDS DOWN TO THE AUXILIARY FIELD FIELD, WHICH AT THIS TIME THE PICTURES WOULD'VE SHOWED YOU HOW MUDDY AND MESSY IT IS BACK THERE. BUT THEY'VE MADE GREAT PROGRESS TODAY. THEY WERE WORKING ON SOME INFILTRATE, INFILTRATION, TRENCHING, AND OF COURSE GOT RAINED OUT. BUT MOVING RIGHT ALONG, WE'RE EXPECTED TO HIT OUR COMPLETION DEADLINE. AND OUR GRANT IS NOT IN, SHOULD I SAY RISK ANYMORE? UH, SO YEAH, IF, IF WE HAD THESE PICTURES UPLOADED YOU, WHOA. HEY, WE LOOK AT THAT. SOME OF THEM MAYBE ARE COMING IN. LET'S GO TO THAT PAGE AND SEE IF I CAN GET THE, UH, WELL SPOKE TOO SOON. OKAY. THEY WERE ON THE LAST PAGE HERE. YEAH, WELL THERE'S ONE THAT LOADED THAT'S SO STRANGE. THAT ONE OUT OF THE SEVEN IN THE ORDER THAT IT IS AND THEN COME BACK TO IT. MAYBE IT'LL UPLOAD BY IN. YEAH, WELL AT LEAST YOU SEE SOME OF THE SILT FENCING UP AND THIS IS WHERE THE TRAIL IS GETTING INSTALLED SO IT'S MESSY. UM, YEAH, SORRY. NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED. THERE WERE SOME GREAT PICTURES RIGHT HERE. SO I'VE COVERED THE TRAIL PROJECT. ESSENTIALLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. UM, AND THEN OUR SIDEWALK, OUR VARIOUS SIDEWALK AND, UM, PARKING LOT PROJECT I DIDN'T ACTUALLY COVER ALL THE SIDEWALKS WE'RE PLANNING TO DO, BUT IN THE PICTURES I WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW YOU THE AERIAL VIEW. WE HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS BEING THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND YOU HAVE THE STANDS ON THIS SIDE IN ORDER TO CREATE ADA COMPLIANCE, WE'RE PUTTING IN A SIDEWALK THAT GOES OUT TO THE PARKING HERE AND THEN ANOTHER SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS TO THE CONCRETE HERE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PAVE THIS AREA FOR THE AMBULANCE BACK IN OR EMERGENCY VEHICLE BACK IN. AND THEN OVER HERE THERE'S A CHUNK OF PAVEMENT THAT'S REALLY MESSED UP. I I, I JUST WANTED TO REPLACE IT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE, UM, WE'RE REPLACING THAT. AND THEN, EXCUSE ME, BETWEEN THE BASKETBALL FIELD, BASKETBALL COURT AND THE DOG PARK, THERE'S A PATCH OF GRASS HERE THAT MAKES FOR AN ADDITIONAL 20 PLUS SPACES OF PARKING. SO WE'RE GOING TO PAVE THAT FOR, FOR PARKING. AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE CONNECTIVITY WITH A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE BASKETBALL COURTS THAT LEAD TO THIS PARKING LOT. SO ALL OF THAT WILL GET KICKED OFF HOPEFULLY AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'LL FIND CONTRACTORS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE BULK OF THAT WORK. UM, WE HAD, LET'S SEE, WHAT'S THAT? ALL OF, WE LET JUST COUNT. WE'VE GOT ONE, TWO, I THINK THAT'S ALL OF IT FOR THAT RFP. UM, AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT JUJU, WHICH, OOPS, PHASE ONE IS COMPLETE AND UM, I'M SURE YOU'VE BEEN BACK THERE TO SEE THAT. IT STILL HAS THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCING PHASE TWO OF WHICH WE MET ON MAY 30TH WITH ALL OF OUR DESIGN TEAM. SO WE HAVE OUR LEAD ENGINEER OF RECORD, WHICH IS ALLIANCE CON CONSULTING. WE'VE GOT WHITMER JONES KEEFER, WHICH IS THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT. UH, THERE'S A PAVILION DESIGNER WHO'S AN ARCHITECT THAT, UM, PARKER GROUP, PARKER DESIGN GROUP. AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER CIVIL ENGINEER THAT WE BROUGHT ON BOARD FOR THE GRINDER PUMP STATION THAT SITS BEHIND THAT AREA BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S BEEN A CAPACITY ISSUE WITH THAT. AND SO WE'VE ASKED THAT THEY REVISE THEIR DRAWINGS SINCE SOME OF THIS WAS NOT COORDINATED PROPERLY WITH THAT GRINDER PUMP PROJECT. AND WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE DRAWINGS TO COME BACK WITH THE REVISIONS THAT WE'VE ASKED FOR AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT OUT TO BID. SO OUR [06:00:01] MEETING WAS MAY 30TH. I'VE BEEN CHECKING IN REGULARLY AND WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A LITTLE BIT OF COORDINATION, BUT WE'RE ANTICIPATING IN A FEW MORE WEEKS WE'LL BE PUTTING THAT OUT TO BID EXPIRES IN THE FALL OF 2023. SO DOES THAT MEAN IT HAS TO BE GRANTED THE BE GRANTED OR IT HAS TO, THE WORK HAS TO BE, HAVE TO BE DONE? HOW DOES THAT WORK? DONE WOULD PROBABLY BETTER ANSWER. WHEN DOES THAT EXPIRE? THE JUJU? SORRY, I WAS SO YEAH, . SO FOR JEN, SO FOR THE JUJU, YOU GOT THE CANDY. JEN'S EATING A A PEANUT BUTTER CUP. WHY DON'T WE HAVE HER ANSWER? I WAS TRYING TO REPLY TO AN EMAIL. UM, SO THE, UH, GRANT FOR, UM, THE TRAIL, UM, THAT WE HAVE IS GONNA EXPIRE AT THE END OF THE YEAR SO THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WELL ON TRACK, WE'RE COVERED AS FAR AS THE JUJU HUDSON PARK. UM, I THINK THERE WAS $75,000 THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. UM, IF WE DON'T GET IT DONE IN TIME, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. UM, WE HAVE THAT FUNDING IN OUR GENERAL FUND. THE REASON WHY WE WERE GOING AFTER THAT GRANT WAS SO THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO ALLEVIATE TOUCH ON THIS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AS DESIGNED AND AS DESIGNED A YEAR AGO VERSUS TODAY'S PRICING. UNFORTUNATELY, VERY DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. UH, RECENTLY I WAS TOLD THAT THEY BUILT THIS ELSEWHERE FOR $450,000 AS DESIGNED. THAT IS NOT IN OUR BUDGET. AND SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS REDESIGN PROCESS TO VALUE ENGINEER THIS, WHICH AT THIS TIME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE, IF IT'S JUST GONNA REDUCE IN SIZE OR IF WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE THE BATHROOMS. BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. SO VALUE ENGINEERING, UM, NOT THE BEST NEWS, I'M SORRY, BUT THINGS ARE TURNING AROUND. I'M SEEING MATERIAL COSTS COME DOWN OR AT LEAST CORRECT A LITTLE BIT. UH, BUT LABOR IS STILL THE BIGGEST PART OF IT. THAT'S PART OF THE PLAYGROUND. IS THAT GONNA BE LIKE RIGHT OFF OF IT? SO THIS SHELTER PAVILION, YOU'LL SEE IN THE GRAY ZONE RIGHT HERE. SO THIS IS YOUR AERIAL VIEW WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING DOWN, HERE'S THE BALL FIELDS. WE HAVE THIS PORTION OF IT DONE WITH THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. SO RIGHT NEXT TO IT WOULD BE WHERE THIS PAVILION SITS THAT GRAY ROOF. AND THEN ALL OF THIS GETS INSTALLED, WHICH IS AT ONE TIME IT WAS A SPLASH PAD, BUT IT'S NO LONGER A SPLASH PAD. IT'S REALLY JUST GRASS, UM, SOMEWHERE FOR THE KIDS TO RUN AROUND THAT THEY'RE STILL CONTAINED, BUT GET THE WIGGLES OUT. UM, THAT'S THE JUJU HUDSON PLAYGROUND. AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR YOU. SO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. THE ROAD TO GET TO THAT AUXILIARY FIELD IN THE BACK, WHICH IS, WOULD LAST TALK WAS POSSIBLY TURF. IS THERE GONNA BE, YOU HAVE TO NOW GO TO THE PARKING LOT TO GET TO OVER THERE OR? GREAT QUESTION. SO THAT WAS PART OF THE REDESIGN. AND LET'S LOOK AT THIS. UM, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX AND YOU COME DOWN HERE, THE WAY THAT THIS LOOKS, THEY TOOK AWAY THAT ACCESS ROAD AND WE PUT IT BACK IN. UM, THIS WILL NOT LOOK THE SAME. THIS, THIS, UH, ROUNDABOUT WILL BE REDESIGNED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS HANDICAP UH, PARKING, HOWEVER WE WANT THAT ROAD BECAUSE IT IS A BAD DESIGN TO ELIMINATE IT. AND THEN YOU ONLY HAVE ACCESS THROUGH HERE, ESPECIALLY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, OF WHICH OUR FIRE MARSHAL LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID, THAT'S A REALLY TIGHT TURN UP THERE. I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE AWAY SPACING IN ORDER TO GET THE RADIUS THAT HE NEEDS. AND SO THE, THE BETTER OPTION IS TO JUST ELIMINATE SOME OF THIS GREEN SPACE AND KEEP THE ROAD, WHICH, YEAH. SO, UM, THE PAVING PROJECT, YOU WERE ASKING IF, IF THIS ROAD, THAT, THAT WOULD GET PAVED. IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? NO, I WAS JUST, I DID NOT SEE THAT ROAD BEING CONTINUED. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YEAH. AND MY, MY DESIGN DOCUMENTS THAT I'VE ASKED FOR, WHEN I GET THOSE UPDATES, I'LL BE SURE AND ADD THAT IN THE NEXT POWERPOINT TO SHOW YOU THE BEFORE AND AFTER. WHY WE, WE REDESIGNED IT. YEP. SO THAT ACCESS ROAD WILL BE PAVED EVENTUALLY. YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE WE'VE BEEN, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE BOUGHT THE CHURCH AND ALL. NO SIR. YEAH, JUST UP TO THE, JUST THE PARKING LOT THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST. MM-HMM. . SO THEY SUBDIVIDED THE LOT. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE. THE CHURCH IS ABOUT RIGHT HERE. IT WAS ONE BIG RECTANGULAR SPACE AND THEY CUT THE LOT IN HALF. AND THIS PARCEL GOT SOLD OFF TO A PRIVATE, UM, COMPANY. IT'S GREENERY GOODS, SOMETHING THEY, THEY DO HERBS. UH, AND THEN THIS SECTION HERE WHERE IT'S MOSTLY JUST GRASS IS WHAT THE CITY PURCHASED. AND WE PURCHASED THAT BACK IN. WELL I KNOW THAT THEY WENT INTO NEGOTIATIONS IN MARCH, SO IT CLOSED SOMEWHERE IN APRIL, MAY. AND HOW MANY MORE SPACES OVER THERE? [06:05:01] A LOT. IT'S, IT'S A BIG AREA. FOUR ACRES. IT'S A LOT. MM-HMM. . YEAH. I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THAT BIG. IT'S A BIG, YEAH, IT'S PRETTY SIZABLE. I MEAN, LOOKING AT, IT'S THAT AREA WE USE FOR PARKING NOW, THAT OVERFLOW AREA. IT IS. YEAH. PEOPLE WERE JUST PARKING IN THE GRASS. BUT YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT. 'CAUSE IT'S WHERE EVERYBODY PARKS NOW. IT HELPED A LOT DURING THE FOURTH ON MAY OR FOURTH OFF MAIN. YEAH. FELT LIKE RANDALL STREET AT LEAST DIDN'T HAVE ANY OVERFLOW PARKING, BLOCKING THE DRIVE LANE LIKE IT WAS LAST YEAR. SO YEAH. THAT WAS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. SORRY. NEXT TIME I'LL TEST THIS POWERPOINT BEFORE I COME IN. MAKE SURE IT WORKS WITH THE PHOTOS. YOU SAW SOME OF THEM AT LEAST . I PROMISE IT WORKED. IT DID. I I YOU'RE GONNA SEND IT TO US, RIGHT? WE CAN DO THAT, SEAN? YEAH. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS? NO. OKAY. PERFECT. UM, ANY OLD BUSINESS? NO SIR. I FEEL LIKE THAT SUMMED UP A BUNCH OF OUR OLD BUSINESS. THAT'S GOOD. UM, PRESENTATION, APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM JUNE 12TH. UH, ANY DISCUSSION FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING? IF NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR APPROVAL? MOTION TO APPROVE. ANY SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. VERY GOOD. UH, NEW BUSINESS. THERE IS NO NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME. ALRIGHT. AND DIRECTOR REPORT. OKAY, THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW. THERE'S SO MUCH, UH, THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW AND EVEN MORE COMING IN THE PIPELINE. UM, SO IF YOU THINK WE'RE BUSY NOW, STRAP IN. UM, WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A QUICK UPDATE ON THE SHELTER DONE AT MILLSTONE. IT IS DONE COMPLETED PAST INSPECTION. UM, EVERYTHING IS UP. UH, TODAY WE RECEIVED THE ADA, UH, BENCH. UM, SO THEY'LL BE PUTTING THAT IN AS SOON AS WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FREE TIME, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THERE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AND LOOK. UH, THAT WAS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP. UM, WE RECEIVED 40, $40,000 FROM PARD GRANT AND THEN THE CITY, UM, CHOMPED IN, UH, AN EXTRA 20. SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS. IT'S A REALLY NICE PLACE TO, TO GO DOWN AND HAVE LUNCH, UM, AND JUST CHILL, UH, TO WATCH THE, UM, THE WATER. IT'S VERY PEACEFUL. UM, SO THAT IS DONE, SO WE CAN CHECK THAT OFF OUR LIST. UM, DIDN'T THINK WE'D EVER GET IT ROLLING, BUT WE DID. UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PRETTY BIG EVENT THAT'S HAPPENING THIS WEDNESDAY, UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HELP WITH FILL THE BUS. UM, MY GOODNESS. UM, WE HAVE GOT, I THINK, UH, 2019 OR 20 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN SUN CITY. WE ALSO HAVE, UM, HILTON HEAD LAKES THAT PARTICIPATES. WE ALSO HAVE LATITUDE MARGARITAVILLE. UM, SO IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF CRAZY. WE HAVE TWO BUSES THIS YEAR. UM, SO IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT THAT IT'S GOTTEN SO BIG THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE, UM, ALL THE OPERATIONS OVER TO THE REC CENTER. SO WE'LL BE LITERALLY ONE HALF OF THE GYM, UM, PUBLIC WORKS. UH, WE CAN'T THANK THEM ENOUGH FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, BUT WE'VE OUTGROWN THE SPACE. SO PUBLIC WORKS WILL BE WITH US, UM, TO HELP PICK UP ALL OF THAT ON WEDNESDAY. AND FOR ANYONE OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WANTS TO VOLUNTEER, UM, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHOW UP AT THE REC CENTER, UM, AT ABOUT 12 O'CLOCK. AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL HANDLE THE SORT AND ALL OF THE SUPPLIES ARE DONATED. WE SORT EVERYTHING OUT. AND THEN, UM, FROM THERE, WHAT WE DO IS WE BAG EVERYTHING UP, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING DAY WE LITERALLY TAKE IT DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOLS. SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF AND CHANGE FOR NEXT YEAR ON HOW WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING. BUT, UM, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, MAYOR WILLIAMS' WIFE, MS, UH, BETH WILLIAMS, WHO REALLY ORGANIZES ALL THIS STUFF, UM, WE, WE ARE KIND OF JUST THE, THE HELP ON THE OTHER END. UM, SO IT HAS DONE, UH, AN AMAZING, AMAZING THING OVER THE LAST, UH, COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE WE'VE BEEN HERE. AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, I MEAN, THIS WAS, I WANNA SAY BACK WHEN JOE GALEY MAYBE WAS HERE, UM, THAT THEY STARTED. AND THEN, UM, COUNCILMAN ZO HAD HELPED AS WELL. AND IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE CONTINUED. SO IT IS HUGE AND IT IS HAPPENING. I DON'T KNOW HOW, UM, IT GOT TO BE JULY, BUT WE BLINKED AND WE'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS. SO, UM, BUT THAT IS HAPPENING, UH, THIS WEDNESDAY. UM, SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL AS OUR BIG RIG DAY. UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT DOING THAT, UH, VERY SOON, UH, GETTING SOME BIG RIGS OUT FOR ALL THE KIDS AND, UM, IT'S REALLY FUN, UNIQUE. LAST YEAR WE HAD IT, UM, HAD A GOOD PARTICIPATION, SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. AND, UH, WE'RE ALSO OPENING UP THE FOOD VENDORS RIGHT NOW FOR FESTIVAL ON MAINE. UM, THERE'S, UM, A FEW SLOTS THAT ARE ALREADY STARTING TO SELL. IT'S, IT'S CRAZY. UM, LAST YEAR WE ACTUALLY SOLD OUT. UM, SO, UH, IF YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS A FOOD TRUCK THAT WANTS TO GET IN, WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GET IN NOW, UM, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT WAITING AT THE END TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU CAN GET IN. UM, [06:10:01] WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR AN OPEN POSITION, UH, FOR OUR PART-TIME GUEST SPECIALIST. SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT A FEW, UM, APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN. SO WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME INTERVIEWS ON THAT SHORTLY. AND WE HAVE HIRED OUR PART-TIME ATHLETIC ASSISTANT, SO WE WILL HAVE THEM AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO MEET HIM AND THEY WILL BE DOWN AT THE PARK. GARY WILL BE HAPPY TO KNOW IN THE EVENINGS, UM, TO HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE ANY PROBLEMS OR ISSUES. THAT'S REALLY WHAT HE'S THERE FOR, IS TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT, UM, EVERYONE IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING AT THE PARK IS, YOU KNOW, A SAFE, SECURE PLACE, NOT ONLY FOR OUR USERS, UH, MOU USERS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC, UM, AT LARGE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. UM, ALSO TOO, WE HAD A, I DON'T KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF A, AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED, JUST A, JUST A SMALL ONE. UH, THE FOURTH OFF MAINE WAS A LOT OF FUN. UM, WE HAD ALMOST 1200 PEOPLE, UM, AND WE KIND OF CHANGED SOME OF THE DYNAMICS OF HOW WE DID EVERYTHING. SO IT WAS REALLY NEAT. UM, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE THAT SHOWED HAD A FUN TIME. WE CAN'T WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR. UM, SO, UM, LOTS AND LOTS OF FUN BUS. UM, OPEN VOLLEYBALL IS STILL HAPPENING. UH, WE'VE ALSO STARTED A PICKLEBALL LEAGUE, SO ANYONE THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO PLAY PICKLEBALL, COME CHECK IT OUT. UH, WE ALSO HAVE PICKLEBALL MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, AND FRIDAYS IN THE MORNING. UM, AND THEN THE, UH, MIXED PICKLEBALL LEAGUE IS ON TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS. UM, SO THAT IS STARTING SOON ON JULY 18TH. SO THAT'S NEXT WEEK, I BELIEVE. SO LOTS OF REALLY COOL STUFF GOING ON. UM, AND THEN, LET ME THINK. THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING, UM, THAT WE WERE DOING. OH, UM, WE MET WITH, UH, THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. UM, THEY DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UM, HISTORICAL PLACARDS FOR THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. UM, AND I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, UH, PERRYSBURG IS, UM, VERY CLOSE TO ONE OF THE SITES, UM, OF THE BATTLES THAT INCURRED THERE. SO, UH, WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY AND GET SOME, UM, TRAILHEAD SIGNAGE DOWN AT MILLSTONE. UM, VERY HISTORICAL. IT'S MUCH LIKE YOU WOULD SEE ON A TRAIL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO, UM, AT ZERO COST TO THE CITY, AND IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE, UM, FOR THAT AREA DOWN THERE. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. AND THEN THE LAST BIG THING, WHICH UM, WE BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, IS THE FLAP GRANT. SO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO LOOK AT, UM, BUILDING A, A VERY NICE TRAIL ALL THE WAY FROM MILLSTONE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE. UM, WOW, THAT IS ALMOST NOT QUITE 16, 17 MILES. UM, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE COST PER MILE FOR A TRAIL, HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS. UH, BUT A LOT OF FOLKS ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH OUR TRAILS? WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE PLAN? OBVIOUSLY OPENING UP THE FIRST TRAIL BACK HERE, UM, IT WAS THE SMALLEST TRAIL IN THE PLAN AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DA FEES, UM, THAT HELPED PAY FOR THAT. UM, SO ALL THE DEVELOPERS AND THE NEW HOUSES THAT COME IN, THAT'S WHAT'S HELPING TO PAY FOR THAT. UM, THOSE FEES DON'T COME IN ALL THE TIME, . SO IT'S NICE TO GET 'EM. AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, TO UTILIZE THOSE FUNDING FOR IT. SO, UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY DOING THAT. UM, BUT THE FLAP GRANT, UM, WE WILL PROBABLY, UM, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THE, THE EXPLORER, UH, EXPLORATION GOES AS FAR AS TO THE GRANT FUNDING, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 3.5 TO 4 MILLION THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR. AND OF COURSE, THIS, THIS IS NOT IN THE ALTA PLAN RIGHT NOW, SO OF COURSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME DESIGN, ALL THAT INFORMATION WILL COME BACK. UM, MUCH LIKE THE, THE, UM, RICHARD GRAY PLAN CAME TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL FIRST BEFORE IT GOES TO COUNCIL. UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH. THE DEADLINE FOR THAT GRANT IS, UM, I BELIEVE THE END OF SEPTEMBER. SO WE'RE WORKING VERY, UH, QUICKLY ON THAT. UH, WE HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS, UH, WITH THEM TO GO OVER EVERYTHING. UH, BUT IF WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THIS DONE AND PASSED, IT IS ZERO COST TO THE CITY. UM, AND THE CITY WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP. THIS IS ALL THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDS. UM, AND IT WILL BE AN AMAZING, AMAZING, HUGE TRAIL. UM, AND IT WILL BRING IN A TON OF FOLKS, ESPECIALLY 'CAUSE THE, THE ROUTE IN WHICH IT GOES, THERE'S LOTS OF SWEEPING VIEWS OF THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE, UM, THE RIVER, DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS. SO YOU CAN ALMOST IMAGINE HEADING TO, UH, PARTS OF THE SAVANNAH NATIONAL WILDLIFE ON A BIKE. 'CAUSE THERE IS A BIKE TRAIL THAT'S THERE ALREADY. UM, AND BEING ABLE TO SEE ALL THAT WIRE ON THE BIKE. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS WITHIN THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO STILL LOOKING AT, UH, WORKING WITH THE EAST COAST GREENWAY ON A PORTION OF THE DIFFERENT TRACT, UH, AS WELL. UH, SO WE'RE GETTING SOME, UH, INFORMATION FROM DOT THERE. SO THOSE ARE A LOT OF BIG THINGS COMING THROUGH THE PIPELINE. UM, A LOT OF TAX DOLLARS AT WORK. UM, SO [06:15:01] A LOT OF PREPARATION AND I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED FOR IT. AND, UM, THE LAST THING THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME EXPLORATORY WORK ON IS OUR AUXILIARY FEE. SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE, UM, ABILITY TO GO AFTER SOME UNDISCOVERED FUNDS FROM SOUTH CAROLINA. IT'S A GRANT FOR ABOUT $200,000. UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE AROUND WHEN THE TURF FIELD WAS BUILT BACK HERE, IT WAS NOT QUITE A MILLION DOLLARS. UM, THIS TURF FIELD WON'T BE AS BIG. THIS IS, UM, RIGHT AROUND A 70 TO 80 FOOT TURF FIELD, UM, WHICH IS TYPICALLY USED FOR SEVEN SIDE, BUT WE'RE PLAYING SOCCER. SO, UM, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT IS. IT'S JUST SMALLER NUMBERS OF SOCCER AND THERE'S TOURNAMENTS ALL OVER THE US. UM, SO OUR GOAL IS TO TRY AND BRING MORE AND MORE OF THAT AS WELL AS, UM, LOOKING AT DOING SOME FLAG FOOTBALL AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. UH, FOR ANYONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY PAYING ATTENTION OUT THERE. UM, OUR RICHARD GRAY, UH, COMPLEX HAS REALLY KIND OF STARTED TO DEVELOP INTO A SPORTS TOURISM AREA, UM, ALONG WITH THE REC CENTER. SO, UM, THAT GRANT IS DUE AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. SO TIMING IS OF ESSENCE. UH, WE SHOULD HAVE OUR EXPLORATIONS DONE BY WEDNESDAY. AND AFTER THAT IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, ME AND NEIL WORKING TOGETHER TO GET ALL THE LITERATURE TOGETHER AND MAKING IT A GOOD SELLER PACKAGE. AND FINGERS CROSSED, WE'LL, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO IT. SO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR THE FLAP GRANT AND THE, AND THE STATE GRANT? UM, I WOULD SAY THE FLAP GRANT, UM, PROBABLY, UM, A 90 TO 95% PROBABILITY. COOL. UM, THE UNDISCOVERED, IT'S A 50 50, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW. SO IT'S MORE COMPETITIVE? YES, VERY MUCH SO. YEAH. THE UNDISCOVERED FUNDS ARE VERY, UM, COMPETITIVE. MUCH LIKE THE TRAIL GRANTS ARE, UH, THE FLAP GRANT IS FEDERAL. UM, SO IT'S, YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE YOUR PLAN IN PLACE AND THIS, AND WE HAVE AN AWESOME PARTNER. A LOT OF PLACES AREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER. UM, SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO ALL THAT AND, UM, YEAH, THEY WANT YOU READY TO GO? YES. WE'VE ALREADY GOT LETTERS OF SUPPORT. SO WE, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE LITERALLY AHEAD OF THE GAME. UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN STILL GET ALL THE DESIGN PHASE, ALL THAT STUFF DONE. 'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT JUST A SMALL MILE OF RIGHT TRAIL, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON ALMOST 20 MILE TRAIL. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S STILL THE CONNECTIVITY PIECE THAT WE WANNA DO, NOT JUST WITH THAT TRAIL, BUT WE ALSO WANNA BE ABLE TO CONNECT OUR COMMUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, BEAUFORT TO BE ABLE TO GET FROM BEAUFORT ALL THE WAY UP TO HILTON HEAD. SO THERE'S A WHOLE BIG MIX THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND WE HAVE OUR GUESTS IN THE, IN THE, UM, AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW WHO ARE BIG, UH, COMPONENTS OF THAT. UM, SO TRAILS ARE HUGE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST THE WAY CONNECTIVITY IN ITSELF IS, IS HUGE WAVE THAT'S COMING. WHEN YOU TAKE A VERY SMALL TOWN LIKE HARDY AND YOU START TO GROW AND GROW AND GROW, IT'S, IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT YOUR COMMUNITY IS ABLE TO CONNECT, UM, WHETHER IT'S BIKE PATHS OR UM, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN PATHS BE ABLE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. SO A LOT OF GROWTH THAT'S COMING. SO NOTHING THAT YOU GUYS DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW, UM, BUT IT IS VERY EXCITING TO, UM, BE ABLE TO DO, HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT. . YES. IT'S VERY EXCITING. SO, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE . JUST A LITTLE BIT OF STUFF. . ALRIGHT, PERFECT. UM, ANY ISSUES OR CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP BY MEMBERS? TERRY? GOOD, KEVIN? TAMMY? UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, UM, I HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS PARADE AND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO START MEETINGS WITH THAT. UM, YES. SO, UM, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN MY LIST, BUT IT'S NOT ON HERE. UM, SO THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, UH, WE ARE A LITTLE BEHIND ON IT. UM, WE ARE GOING TO SEND AN EMAIL OUT AS SOON AS FILL THE BUS IS DONE. UM, WE WILL START MEETING ON THAT TO SEE WHO FROM LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO BE ON THAT COMMITTEE AGAIN. UM, AND WE'LL GET ROLLING ON THAT PROBABLY HERE, UM, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. OKAY. AND HOW OFTEN DOES IT MEET? UM, OR ANYBODY HAS PROBABLY ONCE A MONTH. OKAY. UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO A THEME LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR, AND THE ROUTE HAS MORE OR LESS BEEN ESTABLISHED. UM, ALL THE HARD WORK AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE APPLICATION PROCESS IN ALL THAT STUFF APPROVED, THAT STUFF'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. SO THIS YEAR, UM, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED IS MORE HANDS ON DECK TO BE ABLE TO GET MORE FOLKS TO COME IN. UM, THE DATE WE HAVE IS DECEMBER THE FIRST FOR THE TREE LIGHTING, WHICH IS FRIDAY NIGHT AND THEN SATURDAY, UM, IT'S THE SAME DAY AS THE BLUFFTON PARADE. BLUFFTON PARADE IS IN THE MORNING. UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET OURS IN THE AFTERNOON. SO FOLKS COMING FROM THAT PARADE WILL BE ABLE TO COME TO US. UM, AND WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW ALL OF THAT KIND OF MESHES TOGETHER THIS YEAR. UM, SO THAT'S SECOND, THAT IS THE PLAN. THE, YES, THE AFTER PARTY, THE CHRISTMAS MM-HMM. . YES. YEAH. WITH SNOW AND THE ICE SKATING AND ALL THAT KIND OF FUN STUFF. YES. YEAH. WE JUST WON'T HAVE IT AS LONG. UM, MOST OF THE, I WOULD SAY IT'S ABOUT 6, 6 15 I THINK MOST PEOPLE STARTED TO KIND OF DISSIPATE AROUND, SO, [06:20:01] UM, BUT YES, IT IS COMING TAM. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE STILL ON TRACK FOR THAT. YES. HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT IS JULY . YEAH. YEAH. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CHRISTMAS PLANNING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHRISTMAS ? WHAT WAS I TALKING ABOUT? 4TH OF JULY? JANUARY. WELL, CRACKER BARREL HAS ITS HALLOWEEN STUFF OUT, SO I KNOW. , DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? NO, I'M GOOD. UM, WE HAD MENTIONED A WHILE AGO THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH CONSTANT CONTACT SENDING OUT THE NEWSLETTERS. IS THAT, YEAH, IT'S WORKING. HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY REGISTERED FOR CONSTANT CONTACT? I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE ACTUAL, OKAY, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH, YOU HAVE. SO, UH, WE CAN SEND A LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY AGAIN, BUT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS REGISTER FOR IT AND IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY SEND IT TO YOU. OKAY. UM, YOU MIGHT WANNA CHECK YOUR SPAM FILE. THAT'S WHERE MINE COMES. OKAY. SO, BUT YES, IT IS WORKING. UH, WE CHECKED ON THAT. I THOUGHT I HAD SENT AN UPDATE, BUT I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DIDN'T AND I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT ONE. YEAH. BUT IT IS WORKING. UM, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL SEND YOU A LINK TO IT. THANK YOU. AND THEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST KIND OF SIGN UP FOR IT. AND THEN, UM, IF YOU DON'T GET IT WITHIN THAT NEXT MONTH, LET ME KNOW. UM, BUT YOU SHOULD, LIKE I SAID, EVERYTHING ELSE THAT I KNOW OF IS, IS WORKING. I'M GOOD TO GO. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I DO NOT. OKAY. VERY GOOD. UM, SO WE'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. VERY GOOD. UH, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE MONDAY, AUGUST 14TH. ALRIGHT. HERE AT 5:30 PM IN CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU. AND ME, HARRIET, THE SEED. COME ON AND COME ON. SO, WELCOME EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS PETE MORRISON. WE ARE HERE AT THE LOW COUNTRY TOURISM COMMISSIONS VISITOR CENTER IN THE EMBASSY SOUTH CAROLINA. AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME WESLEY WALFORD, WHO IS THE ARTIST OF THIS MAGNIFICENT GO BEHIND US. THIS SPECIFIC PIECE WAS A, A COMMISSION REQUEST. UM, AND SO IT WAS REALLY JUST A, A REQUEST AND THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE FREEDOM AND THEY WANTED TO CELEBRATE HARRIETT'S LEGACY. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THIS PIECE STARTED. UM, AND, AND THE TRAVELING OF THIS PIECE WAS JUST A, A BYPRODUCT OF, UM, ONCE, ONCE WE HAD RELEASED IMAGES REALLY JUST ONLINE, UM, IT JUST LIKE WENT VIRAL. PEOPLE JUST REALLY CONNECTED WITH THIS SCULPTURE, HARRIET TUBMAN TO ME AS A CHILD. SO I GREW UP, UH, OUTSIDE OF ATLANTA AREA IN GEORGIA. UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS A VERY GLOSSED OVER PIECE OF HISTORY FROM MY, UM, CHILDHOOD LEARNING EXPERIENCE. SO I KNEW WHO SHE WAS. I KNEW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ABOUT THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD. AND, UM, I MEAN, REALLY THAT WAS IT. SO, UM, IT WAS REALLY A DEEP DIVE FOR ME. LIKE I DON'T PRESUME TO, UM, TO KNOW ANYTHING GOING INTO ANY COMMISSION. SO, UM, UH, [06:25:01] IT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF JUST DEEP RESEARCH, UM, NOT JUST READING, UM, REALLY LOOKING FOR FIRST PERSON ACCOUNTS OF INTERACTING WITH HER. LIKE WILLIAM STILL'S JOURNALS OUT OF PHILADELPHIA TALKS ABOUT, UM, COMING ACROSS HER IN HIS JOURNALS. UM, I MEAN, SHE WAS AMAZING. THERE WERE SO MANY, SO MANY AMAZING MOMENTS IN HER LIFE AND JUST AMAZING STORIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SHE HAD A LOOSE TOOTH. AND SO SHE KNOCKED IT OUT 'CAUSE IT WAS ANNOYING HER. AND, UM, AND SHE, SHE ALWAYS WANTED TO WEAR A DRESS, EVEN IF THEY WERE IMPRACTICAL. AND THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT HER, I THINK IT WAS DOWN AND SHE WAS, WAS LIKE RUNNING ON THE DOCK AND STEPPED ON IT AND FELL AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN JUST GOT UP AND WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, UM, I LIKE THOSE LITTLE MOMENTS TO LIKE HUMANIZE HER. BUT THEN THERE'S JUST THIS, THIS INCREDIBLE SCOPE OF THE ADVERSITY SHE FACED EVEN, EVEN AFTER SHE CAME DOWN HERE AND AS HAD ESCAPED. I MEAN, IT WAS JUST LIKE A LIFETIME OF ADVERSITY THAT, UM, THAT SHE BUGGED UP AND OVERCAME EVERY TIME. AND THAT TO ME IS JUST INCREDIBLY INSPIRING. HART BEING BACK IN THIS AREA. UH, AND EVEN THE SAW AMAZING GRACE DEALING WITH THE WATERS. AND, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN THE CAPTAIN, UH, WAS CARRYING HIS HUMAN CARGO, IF YOU COULD JUST IMAGINE MY BOTTOM SINKS TO THE GROUND, THAT'S 18 INCHES AND THAT'S ALL THE SPACE WE WOULD'VE HAD, AND WE WOULD'VE BEEN CHAINING EVERYBODY NEXT TO US. AND THEN 18 INCHES ABOVE THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ROW OF HUMAN CARGO. AND 18 INCHES ABOVE THAT EVERY ODOR THAT THE BODY PRODUCES IS EVIDENT IN THE SLAVES. THESE WERE AFRICAN KINGS AND QUEENS AND ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS, FUTURE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES, ALL OF THEIR ANCESTORS. I'M A BIG LOVER OF HISTORY AND AS MUCH HISTORY THAT I'VE, UM, READ. I HADN'T READ A LOT ABOUT HARRIET TUBMAN. EVERYBODY KNOWS HER IN A VERY SUPERFICIAL WAY. BUT BY COMING OUT AND READING HER STORY AND SEEING HOW THE SCULPTOR RELATED HER EXPERIENCES AND HER FEATS OF DARING AND COURAGE INTO, UH, THE, THE SCULPTURE REALLY CAPTURED IT WHEN YOU SEE AND AND SEE HOW IT'S EXPLAINED. SO IT IS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE BECAUSE BY COMING TO THESE THINGS, YOU HEAR MORE IN DEPTH OF THE LIFE STORY OF SOMEONE WHO'S REALLY MADE AN IMPACT ON, ON THE HISTORY OF, OF THE SOUTH AND, AND THE HISTORY OF SLAVERY. IT JUST BECAME LIKE, LIKE, HOW DO WE WANT TO TELL HER STORY AND WHAT DO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT? UM, AND, AND IT'S ALSO LIKE, LIKE WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING UNDERGROUND RAILROAD, UH, RAIDS BACK INTO MARYLAND, SHE WAS ACTUALLY MUCH YOUNGER THAN SHE'S DEPICTED IN THIS, UH, REPRESENTATION. UM, WHILE I WAS WORKING ON IT, THEY DISCOVERED THAT PHOTO OF HER WHERE SHE'S SITTING VERY PROPER IN THE DRESS, UM, THAT THAT WAS FOUND AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS COMMISSION. SO THAT, UM, REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE ANATOMY OF HER FACE. UM, BUT FOR THIS, IT WAS, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT HER WHOLE LIFE. SO LIKE THE, UH, THE SHOES OR, OR MILITARY SHOES, UM, TO SPEAK OF HER TIME HERE. UM, THE JACKET IS ACTUALLY A MILITARY COAT THAT WE BORROWED FROM, UH, A HISTORY MUSEUM IN NORTH CAROLINA. UM, SO, SO IT WAS REALLY, IT WAS FOCUSED ON THE SPECIFIC STORY THAT THE PLAQUES TELL, BUT IT WAS ALSO ABOUT HER ENTIRE LIFE OF ACHIEVEMENT. SO, UM, THERE'S A BLEND OF AGES ON HER. UM, THE CHILD ADDS A LOT OF, UM, KIND OF EMOTIONAL CONNECTION. I THINK THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SPEAKS OF HOPE AND TRAGEDY AND, UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE AN EXPLORATION TO DECIDE WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT POSITION ARE WE DOING, YOU KNOW, EACH HAND HAS MEANING. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT A PIECE ON IT THAT ISN'T INTENTIONAL. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS AN AMATEUR HISTORIAN, THAT WE LEARN FROM THE PAST, WE CAN LEARN SO MUCH ABOUT THE PAST AND IT HELPS US MAKE OUR DECISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE. IT'S SO BEING HONEST TO HARRY, TELL ME OUR HERO AND THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH BLACK PANTHER AND WAKANDA. AND YOU SAW THE, [06:30:01] THE GENERAL, THAT'S THE GENERAL REAL W IF YOU PUT THE REAL WAKANDA AT UTOPIA, RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF CONFEDERATE COUNTRY HERE, THIS PLACE CALLED BEAUFORT BECOMES THE FIRST PLACE THAT WE ARE FREED AND, AND MASSES ON NOVEMBER 7TH, 1861 HARRY TUBMAN SEA, COME ON. AND ME, COME ON. AND HARRIET, THE COME ON. AND WE WERE THERE HERE EARLIER. UM, WE HAVE ALREADY OPENED UP THIS MEETING AT THREE O'CLOCK. SO THE, UM, CALL TO ORDER THE, UH, PLEDGE AND, AND OUR INVOCATION ARE ALREADY DONE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION? PLEASE TAKE MOTION. WE RETURN TO REGULAR SESSION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? NO. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY, WE'RE BACK IN REGULAR SESSION. WELCOME EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS AFTERNOON. UM, NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, SIR. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY. SO WE'RE GONNA GO RIGHT INTO PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS. INTRODUCTION OF FIREFIGHTERS. JESSICA MARTIN. ANDREW, I'M GONNA MAKE A MISTAKE HERE. . SENAL. PRETTY CLOSE. PRETTY CLOSE. OKAY. JONATHAN CHURCH AND NICHOLAS CANTONE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNSEL, WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH, UH, ONE YOU CAN'T PRONOUNCE . COME ON UP ANDREW. LET'S GET THE TOUGH ONE OVER WITH AL. UH, HE'S FROM, UH, LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. UH, HE DID TWO YEARS AT ANCHORAGE MIDDLETON, AND, UH, TWO YEARS WITH FIREFIGHTER AND HE COMES TO JOIN US. SURE. TURN, TURN. WELL, HOW ARE YOU? I THINK SO. WELCOME. IS THAT TURNED ON? HELLO? UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, UH, SERVE THE COMMUNITY. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT. UH, I'M EXCITED TO BRING THINGS TO THE TABLE. UM, I'M ONLY ABOUT TWO YEARS INTO THE FIRE SERVICE AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TO KEEP LEARNING THE CRAFT AND I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELCOME. UH, COULD YOU JUST ONE QUESTION? YES SIR. COULD YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME? OPAL OL? YES SIR. I WILL FORGET THAT BEFORE YOU LEAVE THIS ROOM, , BUT, UH, I, I WILL TRY, UH, COUNSEL, ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, WELCOME, WELCOME. THANK YOU. WELCOME. AND WE WISH YOU, UH, A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL CAREER WITH US. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. UH, NEXT IS, UH, NICHOLAS CATONE. UH, HE IS FROM BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS. AND LAST HE WAS IN THE, UH, ARMY RANGER BATTALION, FIRST RANGER BATTALION FOR FOUR YEARS. HE HAD DID TWO DEPLOYMENTS WITH THE RANGERS. SO HE'S COMING TO US, HE'LL BE GOING TO THE ACADEMY NEXT MONTH. TERRIFIC. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE. HAPPY TO START MY FIREFIGHTER CAREER HERE IN HARDY. I'M READY TO BRING EVERYTHING I HAVE AND EXPERIENCE FROM MILITARY TO HERE AND PUT THAT INTO THE SYSTEM HERE. LEARN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND TRY MY BEST. YOU'LL DO SPECTACULARLY. AND, AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR MILITARY SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY. COUNSEL, ANYONE, UM, DO ANY OF THESE NEW GENTLEMEN PLAY SOFTBALL? WELCOME. THEY'RE YOUNG ENOUGH. THEY CAN. FIRST YEAR OLD . I DUNNO. IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY YOUNG GROUP HERE. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE LAST TWO ARE, ARE, ARE TWO PARAMEDICS THAT WE DID HIRE THAT ARE GONNA GO ON THE AMBULANCE. UH, MR. JONATHAN CHURCH, ANOTHER MASSACHUSETTS NATIVE. UH, BUT HE CAME TO US FROM FLORIDA WHERE HE WAS A PARAMEDIC IN THE IC UNIT. UM, SO HE IS BEEN, I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN A FIREMAN. I'M SORRY. BUT, UH, HE'S COME TO US. HE'S GONNA BE ONE OF OUR FIRST, UH, AMBULANCE PARAMEDIC. [06:35:01] HELLO EVERYONE. HOW YOU DOING? WELCOME. UH, SO I'VE BEEN, I'M THIRD GENERATION FIREFIGHTER AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE FIRE SERVICE EVER SINCE I STARTED. UM, I'M EXCITED TO BE A PART OF EVERYTHING THAT THE HARVILLE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF HARVILLE IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND BEYOND. AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO FORGING A CAREER IN THE SERVICE OF THIS COMMUNITY. GREAT. THANK YOU. WELCOME COUNCIL. AND I'LL ASK IS, UH, JESSICA MARTIN AND SHE WAS LAST AT, I ALWAYS SAY SOUTH SIDE. I KNOW IT CHANGED ITS NAME. IT'S NOW CHATHAM EMS AND FIRE. FIRE AND EMS, UH, SHE IS A PARAMEDIC AND SHE'LL BE ONE OF OUR OTHER, UH, FIRST LINE PARAMEDICS ON THE AMBULANCE IS WHEN WE GET STARTED NEXT MONTH. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. UM, I'VE ONLY KNOWN EMS, I'VE ONLY KNOWN EMS FOR FIVE YEARS AND I WANTED TO GROW AND LEARN AS A PROVIDER AND I THOUGHT, WHAT BETTER WAY TO DO THAT THAN TO OPEN MYSELF UP TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND LEARN FROM, FROM THESE GUYS HERE WHO CAN TEACH ME A LOT AND PROGRESS. EVENTUALLY I'D LIKE TO TEACH THE CRAFT AND I DON'T THINK I'LL BE MUCH OF A TEACHER IF I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, SO I WANNA LEARN MORE. THANK YOU. I AM TICKLE PINK THAT THERE IS THE FEMALE ON BOARD. FINALLY THE LADY ON BOARD. IT IS. I SAW YOUR NAME THERE ON THE AGENDA. I THINK SO. WELCOME. I'M, I'M EXCITED TO SURF WITH THESE GUYS AND, AND I'VE, AS FAR AS, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, I'VE BEEN WELCOMED WITH VERY OPEN ARMS AND THEY ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO TEACH ME AND HELP ME AS I GROW, ESPECIALLY WITH, WITH MY SIZE. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY UP AND ABLE TO HELP AND WILLING. THANK YOU. WELCOME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WELCOME EVERYBODY AGAIN, ALL FOUR OF YOU. UH, WE WISH YOU A LONG AND SUCCESSFUL CAREER. WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE'VE PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES INTO IT OVER THE LAST, UH, SIX YEARS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN A STRONG FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE STRONG LEADERSHIP AND, AND THAT, UH, YOU WILL HELP MAKE US EVER STRONGER. SO, WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. THIS WAS TERRIFIC. DON'T LET HER FOOL YOU 'CAUSE SHE KNOCKED THE PHYSICAL AGILITY TEST OUT THE PARK AND SHE WILL BE GOING TO THE ACADEMY WITH NICK, UH, NEXT MONTH AS WELL. SO WE'LL GET HER ALL TRAINED UP AND WE'LL GET GOING. THANK YOU. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION OF ACCOUNTS PAY, ACCOUNTS PAYABLE CLERK, JORDAN MASON. MR. BOYLE. YES. WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, WE HAD A RETIREMENT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO AND LAST MONTH WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE JORDAN MASON JOIN US AND I'M GONNA LET YOU INTRODUCE HER, LET HER INTRODUCE HERSELF. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. UH, MY NAME'S JORDAN. I'M THE NEW ACCOUNTS PAYABLE CLERK. UM, I'VE JUST RECENTLY MOVED TO THE AREA, POOLER, GEORGIA, FROM A SMALL COASTAL TOWN RIGHT OUTSIDE OF TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA. UM, MY PREVIOUS EMPLOYMENT WAS WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS AN ACCOUNTANT FOR THE LOTTERY DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE. UM, I DID ALWAYS FIND MYSELF IN FINANCE, SO I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANK Y'ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND AGAIN, WE, WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AROUND FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. WELCOME. GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. AND I, I I WOULD SAY IT, LOOKING AT THE FIREFIGHTERS AND YOU, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT MORE THAN JUST OLD PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO THIS THING. . YEAH, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. I, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I I HAVE TO. I JUST WAS TRAVELING. I HAD A LOOK AT MY PASSPORT AND THE AGE ON THERE MORE FREQUENTLY THAN I LIKE. SO WELCOME AND CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE THE ANNUAL UPDATE, CITY OF HARDY KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. UH, MR. ZIBO, PLEASE, CAN WE BLOW THAT UP AND UP? MAYBE WE CAN. OKAY. I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF IT. SO AS OUR FORMER GREAT GOVERNOR SAID, IT'S A GREAT DAY IN SOUTH CAROLINA. WELL, IT'S BEEN A GREAT SEVEN YEARS IN THE CITY OF HARDY HILL. SO, UM, I, WE PUT THIS TOGETHER, I THINK, DO WE PUT IT TOGETHER EARLY 21 JUST TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT HAVE WE DONE AND GIMME SOME, UM, PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT CAN BE MEASURABLE. AND, UM, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH ALL THESE INDICATORS, BUT I, AS I DID INDICATED JUST A FEW A LITTLE BIT AGO [06:40:01] WITH THE COUNCIL, IS I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER COMMUNITY IN SOUTH CAROLINA OR THE UNITED STATES OVER THE PAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS CAN BOOST THIS TYPE OF SUCCESS AND THESE SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE INDICATORS. SO THIS IS A TEAM EFFORT. UM, WE ALL SHOULD BE PROUD OF ALL OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. WE'VE ALL DONE A LOT AND, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE TO ACCOMPLISH. UM, SO THIS IS, AGAIN, THIS IS PROBABLY OUR BEST PPIO PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, UM, THE DOCUMENT TO SHOW THAT WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO DO AND WHAT WE'VE ALL ACCOMPLISHED. SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. WE WILL UPDATE IT NEXT YEAR. WE WILL OBVIOUSLY DISTRIBUTE THIS WIDE 'CAUSE THIS IS A VERY GOOD, UM, INDICATOR OF WHAT THE CITY'S ALL ABOUT. I DID WANT TO NOTE A COUPLE THINGS. AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR TAXABLE VALUE, AND THEN EVEN FOR 23, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE WE'RE IN 23 NOW, BUT, UM, THIS IS SOME CALENDAR AND SOME ARE FISCAL YEAR, SO IT'S NOT ALL THE SAME, UM, TIME PERIOD WE'RE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT. 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE MEASURED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT LIKE, OUR TAXABLE VALUE IN THIS IN FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 IS 88 MILLION, AND THAT'S UP ANOTHER 9% FROM OUR NOTED ALMOST 81 MILLION. THE MARKET VALUE IS GOING TO, IS ALMOST 2 BILLION. SO WHEN, YOU KNOW, I CAME HERE AND SOME OF US CAME HERE IN 2015, THE MARKET VALUE OF THE CITY WAS FOUR 62 MILLION. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST INCREDIBLE. SO JUST THE, JUST THE SHEER VOLUME OF ACTIVITY. UM, IT'S, IT'S A CREDIT TO EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKED HERE AND, AND WORKS HARD EVERY DAY. ONE OTHER INDICATOR THAT I DID THOUGHT I THOUGHT ABOUT RECENTLY THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY FOR SOME REASON WE DIDN'T INCLUDE, WHICH WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE, WAS FUND BALANCE, GENERAL FUND, FUND BALANCE. WHAT, WHAT'S THE AVAILABLE RESOURCE IN THE EVENT OF A NATURAL DISASTER EMERGENCY? JUST YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FUND THAT YOU, UM, RELY ON WHEN THINGS DON'T ALWAYS GO THE WAY YOU EXPECT. SO WHEN WE GOT HERE IN 2015, THE CITY HAD 3.6 MILLION OF, UH, FUND BALANCE. THAT'S TOTAL FUND BALANCE. AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 23, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 15.6 MILLION. SO O OVER A 330% INCREASE. SO WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF THE, THE FISCAL STEWARDS, UH, THAT WE'RE DOING AND, AND HOW WE'RE MOVING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK IT'S, AGAIN, A TESTAMENT TO EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE WORKING FOR. YES, SIR. RIGHT, MIKE? UH, THIS IS A GOOD STORY AND SOMETIMES OUR GOOD STORIES DON'T GET TOLD. YES SIR. AND I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO HAVE WITH THESE KIND OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS, A REAL, UH, GET IT OUT WITH SHELLY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THE HARD WORK THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE AND THE LEADERSHIP YOU PROVIDED. AND LET'S NOT LET THIS STORY NOT GO TOLD, NOT IN A BRAGGING WAY, BUT JUST INFORMATIONALLY. I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. YES, SIR. APPRE, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE, THE COMMENTS. AND AGAIN, THE COUNCIL IS, IS PART OF THE TEAM AND, AND A LOT OF THE STUFF WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE WITH YOUR DIRECTION AND, AND YOUR SUPPORT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM, UH, COUNSEL OR QUESTIONS OF MR. ZIMBLER? I, I THINK THIS IS, UM, IT, IT'S A GREAT REPORT CARD. UH, I THINK GOING FORWARD, WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE GOTTEN EIGHT YEARS UNDER YOUR STEWARDSHIP GETTING TO THIS POINT. I THINK, UH, IT NOW IT BECOMES EVEN MORE DIFFICULT. YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE FIT IN ALL THE NEW PROJECTS ON TOP OF ALL THESE OLD? AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE BIGGER CHALLENGES THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF WILL HAVE AND US AS A COUNCIL GOING FORWARD IS, UH, SO, UH, GREAT NEWS. THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 15TH, 2023 REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING. UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS DISAPPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF JUNE 15TH? MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING? JUNE 15TH. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE THE, UH, MINUTES OF THE JUNE 20TH SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES OF JUNE 20TH? MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, APPROVE THE AMENDMENTS FROM THE JUNE 20TH, 2023 SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL? [06:45:01] SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. BOTH MINUTES ARE APPROVED. WE HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS THIS EVENING, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, A FEW NEW BUSINESS ITEMS. AND THE FIRST ONE IS AN ORDINANCE FIRST READING, AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF HARVILLE, THE LEASE PURCHASE FINANCING IN THE AMOUNT OF NOT EXCEEDING $1,900,000. UM, MR. BOYLE SEEMS LIKE HE'S GONNA TAKE THIS BALL. YEP. WELCOME. I HAVE BACKUP IF I NEED IT, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW FAR WE I CAN GO HERE. UH, JUST ONE, IT'S ONE QUICK SLIDE. UM, MO MOST OF THIS IS REALLY JUST REVIEW. UH, WE'VE TALKED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS AND EVERYTHING ABOUT BUYING OUT THE ENTERPRISE LEASE. WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM. THE COST TO BUY OUT THAT LEASE WILL BE $871,000 IN CHANGE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD ASKED US TO DO WAS TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT WORKING WITH US WITH THE BUYOUT FEES. WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, NEGOTIATE A REDUCTION IN THEIR BUYOUT FEES OF CLOSE TO $42,000. AND, UM, THE NEXT THING I WOULD POINT OUT IS, WELL, THERE I SKIPPED SOMETHING THERE. THE ENTERPRISE BUYOUTS THE 871,000, AND THEN WE HAVE NEW VEHICLES FOR NINE 80 WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT TO BE BORROWED OF 1.9 MILLION. UM, THIS DEBT ISSUANCE WAS IN YOUR FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET, AND WE ENGAGED OUR PFM FINANCIAL ADVISORS WHO'VE BEEN WITH US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND THE BANK THAT'S GOING TO DO THIS IS WEBSTER BANK. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO, THEY'RE THE SUCCESSOR BANK TO STERLING BANK AND THEY HOLD THE, UH, FIRE STATION OR THE FIRE STATION 81, THE, UH, POLICE AND COURT RENOVATION, AND THEN ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE DID A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO. SO IT, IT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT, UM, BANK THAT WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH BANK THAT, UH, UH, PLAYS IN THE GOVERNMENT SPACE QUITE A BIT. AND YOU SAW IN THE ATTACHED PFM MEMO, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THEY WORKED WITH WEBSTER AND RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, WE PROCEED WITH THIS BORROWING. AND THEN, UH, THE BIG THING IS WE HAD, WE, WEBSTER WAS INTERESTED ENOUGH IN OUR BUSINESS THAT THEY WERE WILLING TO HOLD THE RATE 4% OR LOWER. AND THEN AS WE GOT TO THIS POINT, THE RATE ENDED UP BEING 3.97 FOR FIVE YEARS FOR THIS LEASE PURCHASE. FINANCE AND STAFF IS HERE REQUESTING AND RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ON FIRST READING. OKAY. LET'S START THE QUESTIONING TO MY RIGHT WITH MR. MESMAN. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. MRS. GUZMAN? I HAVE NO QUESTION MR. WHITE. JOHN, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT ENTERPRISE, SORT OF HISTORICALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS WITH ENTERPRISE AND THERE WERE SOME INTERNAL PROBLEMS WITH US IN TERMS OF, AND MY QUESTION IS TWOFOLD. ONE, HAVE WE ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD? NOT THAT WE WERE IN FAULT, BUT THERE WERE SOME GROWING PAINS OR SOME THINGS THAT AFFECTED OUR PERFORMANCE ASIDE FROM ENTERPRISE. WERE WE WITH THAT? AND SECOND, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE'RE GONNA, MR. BROWN, WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE INSIDE ON THOSE VEHICLES. IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? ALL THE NON-EMERGENCY VEHICLES? YES, THAT IS, THAT IS STILL THE PLAN. OKAY, GOOD. THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION, BUT, UH, INTERNALLY, ARE WE, UH, TIGHTENED UP AND ARE WE UH, A LITTLE BIT BETTER? I BELIEVE WE HAVE, WE HAVE SOME, UH, DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR, FOR SOME NEW STAFF AND, AND I CERTAINLY, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THE CITY MANAGER MAY HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL. OKAY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HISTORY DOESN'T REPEAT ITSELF INTERNALLY ON THAT WE, WE WILL ENDEAVOR HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE CASE. I KNOW YOU WILL, SIR. MR. CARROLL? UM, NO, SIR. I, I DON'T THINK SO. UM, AND I GUESS THE, UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES, WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? IS THAT, LIKE SOME OF THE LOCAL PEOPLE? I THINK, UM, JOHN HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BUTLER'S AND SOME OTHER THAT DOES THE EMERGENCY YES. TYPE THINGS. THERE, THERE ARE CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS AND SO FORTH THAT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WORKS ON THOSE VEHICLES. HAS TO HAVE. OKAY. UM, JOHN, I'M, I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME THE ATTACHMENT A AND WHICH, UM, OUTLINES THE $871,000 OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE BUYING OUT FROM ENTERPRISE. YES SIR. OKAY. SO, UH, FOR [06:50:01] MY EDIFICATION, BUT I THINK ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC, THERE ARE ALL THESE VEHICLES AND I DIDN'T ADD 'EM UP. HOW MANY THERE ARE HERE? 25 FROM ENTERPRISE 25. THAT $871,000, THAT GIVES US OWNERSHIP OF ALL 25 OF THOSE THINGS. SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE NOT PAYING SOMEBODY $900,000 NOT GETTING ANYTHING. WE'RE GETTING 25 VEHICLES THAT WE NOW OWN. AT SOME POINT WE'LL TRADE 'EM IN AND GET SOME VALUE OUT OF IT AS WELL. YES, SIR. SO IT'S NOT JUST THROWING MONEY, THIS IS WE'RE PURCHASING CORRECT. AND OKAY. UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT POINT WAS CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I'D HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. UM, AT THIS TIME, UH, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE PURCHASE OF THESE VEHICLES? SO THERE'S, AND, UH, UM, SO THE PUBLIC ALSO KNOWS THE 980,000. HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE THEY? THAT IS 15, I'M SORRY, 15 VEHICLES. THAT IS 15. 15 VEHICLES THAT WERE THE, THESE ARE AN A LEASE ARRANGEMENT OR OUTRIGHT PURCHASE. THESE WILL BE OUTRIGHT PURCHASE. OKAY. SO FOR THE PUBLIC WE HAVE THE MILLION NINE IS BASICALLY FOR THE PURCHASE OF 40 VEHICLES. OKAY. SO ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR MAY ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THIS, UH, APPROVAL OF 1,000,009. OKAY. SEEING NO, NONE. I WOULD LIKE THE COUNSEL TO PROVIDE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX A. I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX A SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UH, NEXT READING IS IN TWO WEEKS. UM, NOW WE GO TO THE FIRST READING OF ANOTHER ORDINANCE TO AMEND CHAPTER EIGHT, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION OF THE HARDY BILL CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING THE BURNING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS AND RELATED MATTERS. THIS IS 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX B. UM, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHIEF RA, UM, THIS IS A, UH, AS A RESULT OF A REQUEST, UM, BY ME, UH, IN RESPONSE TO SOME COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC. AND I ASKED CHIEF RA TO REVIEW OUR ORDINANCES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON, UH, CHANGES TO THAT BURNING, UH, REQUIREMENTS. SO, UH, THAT'S HOW, THAT'S WHAT GOT US TO THIS POINT, RIGHT, CHIEF? CORRECT. OKAY. IT'S ALL YOURS. ALRIGHT. GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UM, AFTER TAKING IN THAT, UH, I SPOKE TO OUR LOCAL DEC ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICE, AS WELL AS SOME SITE CONTRACTORS AND LAND DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA, UM, WE WENT THROUGH OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH OUR ORDINANCE CURRENTLY, UH, MIMIC THE SAME REGULATIONS THAT SOUTH CAROLINA DHC UH, ADMINISTERS. UH, WE CANNOT GO BELOW D H'S THRESHOLD, BUT WE CAN GO ABOVE THEM BY LOCAL ORDINANCE. SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WE HAVE MADE CHANGES TO THAT, UH, FOR YOU ALL TO, I THINK THE REMOTE IS DEAD. TURN IT ON. IT WON'T TURN ON. HOLD IT UP IN THE AIR AND JUST CIRCLE IT AROUND. HOLD ON. THERE WE GO. JUST DO THE ANTENNA AS A CAN. THERE WE GO. ALRIGHT. CURRENT DHE REGULATIONS, UM, HAS TO BE A THOUSAND FEET AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AND PUBLIC ROADWAYS. UM, CURRENTLY DHE C AND US WILL GRANT A VARIANCE LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET, BUT NO LESS THAN 500 FEET FOR ENHANCED BURNING, UH, FOR CLOSE QUARTERS BURNING IN, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS OR IN DEVELOPED AREAS. ALSO, UH, TWO PILES PER SIX ACRES IS THE SAME THING WE GO BY. WHEN I SPOKE TO THE DEC OFFICE, THEY REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A WAY THAT THEY QUANTIFIED THOSE SIX ACRES. UH, CURRENTLY, UH, SITE PREP CONTRACTORS CAN BURN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND WE CHARGE $50 PERMIT FEE, UH, FOR 30 DAYS TO VISIT THE SITE. SO WHAT [06:55:01] WE HAVE PROPOSED TONIGHT IS, UM, WE'RE EXTENDING THE, UM, DISTANCE FROM A THOUSAND, BASICALLY 1000 FEET TO 2000 FEET WILL REQUIRE FORCED AIR OR ENHANCED BURNING. AND WHAT THAT MEANS, IT IS BASICALLY ONSITE INCINERATION THAT, UH, LESSENS THE AMOUNT OF SMOKE. UM, IT MAKES THE HOT FIRES BURN HOTTER AND CLEANER. UM, NO VARIANCE WILL BE GIVEN FOR UNDER 1000 FEET. UH, THE OPEN BURNING IF THEY WANTED TO GO WITH THE TRADITIONAL METHOD WOULD HAVE TO BE 2000 FEET, UH, FROM STRUCTURES AND OR ROADWAYS. UM, TWO PILES PER SIX ACRES. AND WHAT I DID THERE IS A SQUARE ACRE OR SIX SQUARE ACRES IS 511 FEET BY 511 FEET. WE PUT THAT DISTANCE IN THERE FOR 511 FEET BETWEEN IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ADDITIONAL PILES IN ACREAGE, UH, TO HAVE THAT IN THERE. AND THEN ALSO THE PERMIT FEE WOULD INCREASE TO 250 PER BURN AREA PER 30 DAYS. UH, THERE ALSO WHILE WE WERE IN THERE, WE, UH, CLEANED THINGS UP WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL BURN PERMITS. UM, THEY'RE DAILY WEATHER BASED. THIS IS JUST FOR YOUR DOWNTOWN OR IF YOU DON'T LIVE IN THE HOA COMMUNITY AND YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BURN, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, HAVE TO COME TO ONE OF OUR FIREHOUSES TO GET A PERMIT. THAT PERMIT IS FREE AND IT'S ONLY FOR ONE DAY ONLY. AGAIN, IT'S WEATHER BASED. ALSO, WE PUT IN THERE THAT WE CAN DENY PERMITS BASED UPON IF WE'RE HAVING ANY SPECIAL FUNCTIONS OR EVENTS THAT, UM, OR IF OUR GUYS AND GALS ARE INUNDATED WITH CALLS AND WE'RE BUSY, WE CAN, UH, DENY PERMITS JUST BASED UPON THAT. UM, AS WELL TO GIVE US KIND OF A, A COMFORT LEVEL, UM, PRESCRIBE FIRES AND RECREATION FIRES AND FOR THOSE LARGER LAND TRACKS THAT DO PRESCRIBE FIRES FOR, UM, FUEL MITIGATION AND BASICALLY BURNING THE UNDERSTORY AND UNDERBRUSH OF LIKE THE FOREST AND UNDEVELOPED LAND, THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION. AND THAT'S BASED UPON SMOKE MANAGEMENT GUIDELINES. WHENEVER THE LAND OWNER OR THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE BURNS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION, TELL THEM THE, UH, AMOUNT OF ACRES TONNAGE AND THINGS THAT THEY'RE BURNING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SMOKE PLUME PROJECTIONS WILL IMPACT THE CITY THAT WILL BE ISSUED BY FORESTRY. AND THEN RECREATION FIRES SUCH AS BONFIRES, UH, THEY WILL REQUIRE A FREE PERMIT AND THAT WILL BE AUTHORIZED BY MYSELF ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. SO ANYTHING THAT IS FOR OUTDOOR BURNING, WE'VE KIND OF REVAMPED IT ALL, BUT WITH THE EMPHASIS BEING ON THE LAND CLEARING, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE RESEARCHED IT. UM, WE, UH, WENT OUT AND WE MET WITH DIFFERENT FOLKS. SOME OF THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES ARE GRINDING, BUT, UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST, EVEN WHEN MY PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES, IF YOU GET A TUB GRINDER ON SITE AND YOU START GRINDING THAT IF YOU THINK PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT SMOKE, YOU HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS WHEN IT COMES TO TUB GRINDING BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY LOUD EIGHT TO 10 HOURS A DAY. UM, BUT BASICALLY THESE ARE THE, UH, CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE ORDINANCE. UM, THIS WILL BE FIRST READING TONIGHT IF YOU APPROVED AS WRITTEN OR WE CAN MAKE ANY, UH, ADJUSTMENTS BY A SECOND READING. THANK YOU, CHIEF. GREAT, GREAT WORK HERE. AND AGAIN, BEFORE I OPEN IT UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONING, JUST TO GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND, A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ALREADY, UM, THIS BEGAN A FEW WEEKS AGO WHEN FOLKS FROM RIVERTON POINT, UH, UH, COMPLAINED ABOUT HEAVY AMOUNT OF SMOKE AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, FOLKS FROM SUN CITY, INCLUDING ME, UH, UH, CALLED ABOUT SMOKE, I GUESS WHEREVER, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS DOING IT, BUT COMING FROM THE EAST ARGENT AREA. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS OVER THERE. AND UH, SO THAT'S WHAT LED TO, UH, CHIEF RA DID A LOT OF WORK OUT GOING OUT THERE, VISITING A SITE, UH, ON SUNDAY MORNINGS. I MEAN, HE, HE PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO THIS. SO THAT'S THE BACKGROUND. UM, LET'S OPEN IT UP WITH, I THINK IT'S MR. CARROLL THIS TIME. IF JOEY RECOMMENDS THAT AND HE'S RESEARCHED IT, THEN HE, YOU KNOW, HE'S THE EXPERT IN THAT. AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. WHITE. UH, CHIEF, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY, UH, WAS IMPRESSED WITH IS HOW YOU'VE SET STANDARDS HIGHER THAN THE STATES. AND SO, UH, THIS WASN'T WATERED DOWN BY ANY MEANS. [07:00:01] IT WAS AN EXCELLENT PIECE OF SETTING THE RIGHT KIND OF STANDARDS AND GIVING THE RIGHT KIND OF MESSAGE. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON A JOB WELL DONE ON THAT AREA. THIS MRS. GUZMAN, UM, LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF WORK. WENT INTO A LOT OF RESEARCH AND LOOKING UP SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, COMING TO ALL THOSE CONCLUSIONS TO MAKE SOMETHING. YEAH. BY. SO THANKS MR. MESMAN. UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'VE PUT INTO IT. JUST OBSERVATION IS, SINCE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE DONUT HOLES HERE IN HARDY V, UM, THAT THE COUNTY'S BURNT ORDINANCES, WHERE ARE THEY? ARE THEY STILL ABOUT THE DHC MINIMUMS? THEY ACTUALLY, THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT ITSELF DOES NOT ISSUE BURN PERMITS. THEY'RE ALL ISSUED THROUGH THE SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION. IF THE FOLKS ARE PULLING THOSE AND, AND DOING 'EM THE CORRECT WAY. UM, CURRENTLY IT JUST MIMICS, UM, DHEC AND SOUTH CAROLINA FORESTRY COMMISSION WHO ENFORCES THOSE THEN? I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES IT ON THEIR LEVEL. I KNOW THAT FORESTRY COMMISSION DOES HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT ASPECT THAT WILL COME OUT AND REQUEST, UM, THEIR FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE MAY, UH, ENFORCE THAT. BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO SAY IF THEY DO OR DON'T. OKAY. I KNOW TYPICALLY THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR STATE ENTITIES TO COME OUT. OKAY. MY CONCERN WAS WITH SOME OF THESE LARGER DONUT HOLES WHERE THE SMOKE FROM THOSE WILL OR CAN AFFECT RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE CITY OF HARVILLE. CORRECT. AND, AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN, WE CAN EDUCATE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BEYOND OUR BOUNDARIES AND, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO THE RIGHT THING. UM, BUT I DO HAVE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE STATE AS WELL AS THE FORESTRY COMMISSION. I CAN ALWAYS MAKE THAT PHONE CALL, UM, ON THE CITY'S BEHALF IF WE DO GET COMPLAINTS ON THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THAT'S AWESOME. UH, CHIEF, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, UM, WHAT IS A PILE? IS THAT A SUBJECTIVE OR IS THERE PRECISE MEASUREMENTS TO THAT? WE HAVE DIMENSIONS ON, IT'S 30 FOOT BY 30 FOOT, IT'S 30 FOOT PILE. SO THEY, THEY CAN'T SNEAK IN A COUPLE EXTRA LOGS. IS THERE'S A SPECIFIC DEFINITION TO WHAT A PILE IS. CORRECT. MOST OF THOSE, UM, I WOULD SAY 99% OF THE FOLKS ABIDE BY THAT. NOW. UM, WE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT AGAIN, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE LAND DEVELOPERS AND, AND ESPECIALLY THE SITE CONTRACTORS. LET'S KEEP THE PILES AT THAT MINIMUM AND ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, WORKS BETTER, KEEP 'EM AS HOT AS WE CAN AND REDUCE THE SMOKE. UM, I MADE A NOTE, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL DAILY PERMIT. UM, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION WHEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GIVES THIS DAILY PERMIT, AND LET'S SAY I'M LIVING NEXT DOOR TO BO AND HE GETS, HE DECIDES TO BURN ONE DAY AND IT'S GONE RIGHT INTO MY BEDROOM WINDOW. IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION TO THE, THE NEIGHBORS WHEN YOU GRANT THESE PER RESIDENTIAL PERMITS BLOWS YOUR WINDOW? RIGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW HE JUST, HE WOULDN'T CARE, BUT IF IT, HE MAKES SOME MORE WOOD, JOHN, LIKE JOHN KNOWS THAT THERE IS CONSIDERATION AND WE'VE, WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT IN THE PAST BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS, UH, TYPICALLY IN THE SPRING WHEN LEAVES AND THINGS BEGIN TO FALL, UM, WE DO CONSULT WITH THE PEOPLE AND, AND MOST OF THE TIME THEY'LL PUT THE FIRE OUT. USUALLY IF THEY'RE BURNING, UM, DURING DAYTIME HOURS AND IT'S NOT WET, THE SMOKE DOESN'T LINGER AROUND, BUT ON THOSE MOIST, KINDA HUMID MORNINGS THAT WE KINDA GET AROUND HERE AND THEN, THEN IN THE EVENINGS WE WILL ASK 'EM TO SNUFF IT OUT AS WELL. WE, WE DON'T WANT 'EM TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY TELL US THEY WOULDN'T PUT A PILE OUT. OKAY. SO THEY, YOU GIVE A DAY PERMIT, SO THEY COULD DO IT AT NOON OR THEY COULD DO IT 6:00 PM NO, IT'S TILL, UH, LEGAL SUNSET. TILL SUNSET AND IT'S, IT'S THE LEGAL SUNSET. SO, UH, LEGAL SUNSET TODAY IS PROBABLY EIGHT O'CLOCK-ISH. UM, AND, AND BASICALLY IT, IT WORKS WITH THE, THE, UH, SUN PHASES. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY SHOOTING THEIR NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY'RE FIRING, YOU KNOW. OKAY. UM, JUST ONE MORE POINT, AND THIS GOES TO SECTION B. UM, AS THIS WAS ALL DEVELOPING AS YOU, YOU AND I BOTH KNOW, UM, WE LEARNED THAT FROM CANADA, THAT SMOKE CAN TRAVEL A LONG WAY AND STILL HAVE A, A QUITE A, AN EFFECT AFTER THOUSANDS OF MILES, MUCH MORE, LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET. SO IN PART B, WHAT WAS BEFORE WAS A THOUSAND FEET. RIGHT, RIGHT. [07:05:01] AND NOW IT'S 2000 FEET AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE, IF IT'S LESS THAN 2000 FEET BETWEEN 1,002 THOUSAND, THEY MUST USE THE FORCED AIR OR ENHANCED BURNING METHOD. CORRECT. WOULD YOU PLEASE, FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE COUNCIL, EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS EXACTLY. BASICALLY IN, IN JUST LAY TERMS, IT IS A GIANT BLOWER THAT FORCES AIR ONTO THE, THE SEAT OF THE FIRE, BASICALLY LIKE ON SITE INCINERATION. AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT WILL, ONCE YOU GET AN ESTABLISHED FIRE, YOU PUT THE FOREST AIR ONTO IT, IT CREATES A HOTTER FIRE. THE HOTTER FIRE RAPIDLY BURNS THE, THE PRODUCTS IN THERE AND IT REDUCES THE, THE MOISTURE BECAUSE IT'S BURNING SO HOT AND REDUCES THE SMOKE FROM THE FIRE. GREAT. NOW, UM, ONE THING THAT I, YOU KNOW, AND IN PART C IT TALKED ABOUT WINDS. IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT OR SHOULD THERE BE A REQUIREMENT WHEN WINDS GET OVER A CERTAIN MILES PER HOUR IN RESIDENTIAL? UM, WE DO, UM, ANYTHING GREATER THAN 10, WE WILL NOT ALLOW ANY, UM, RESIDENTIAL BURNING WITH THE SMALLER PILES ON THE BIGGER PILES, UM, IS CASE BY CASE BASIS. WE DO ADVISE THEM NOT TO, BUT SOMETIMES THE WIND, IF YOU'RE USING THE FOREST AIR, YOU'RE GETTING WINDS BASICALLY IN EXCESS OF A HUNDRED MILE AN HOUR THAT'S BLOWING THROUGH THAT FOREST AIR IN THERE. AND USUALLY THEY HAVE LARGE LAND THAT'S CLEARED DOWN TO JUST MINERAL DIRT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY WORRY ABOUT WILDFIRES OR ANYTHING OF THAT SPREADING. UM, NOW SMOKE DRIFT WITH IT IS CASE BY CASE BASIS. AND IT'S ALSO IN THERE THAT IF IT IS AFFECTING THE AMBIENT, UH, OUTDOOR AIR, WE CAN ASK THEM EVEN WITH THE PERMIT, WE, WE COULD TELL THEM TO PUT IT OUT FOR LAND CLEARING. SO IF THERE'S WE BEING THE CITY, UH, IF THEY'RE, IF THE WINDS GET WHAT WE FEEL IS TOO MUCH AND THEY'RE BURNING AND IT'S DRIFTING SMOKE FOR FIVE MILES AND WE, WE CAN STEP IN AND TELL THEM TO HALT. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AND THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOMEBODY INITIATING THAT CALL. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE, UH, MYSELF OR DES NEED TO, TO GO OUT, SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. OR IT COULD BE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENTS OFFICER IF WE GET ALERTED BY A CONCERNED CITIZEN, MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN FACT, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD AFFECT US TO TELL THEM TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE OR PUT THE FIRE OUT. UM, BUT YES, WE CAN, WE, IT DOES GIVE US IN THE, THE NEW ORDINANCE, THE, UH, LIBERTY TO DO THAT. SO, UM, ONE LAST ONE. I PROMISE IT. CAN WE SET UP SOME SORT OF, UH, PUBLIC HOTLINE? UM, I KNOW WE HAVE HERE'S AND HELPS, BUT IF SOMEONE IN RIVERTON POINT TO USE A RECENT EXAMPLE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S SATURDAY MORNING, YOU KNOW, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE WIND CHANGES AND IT PICKS UP AND THE WIND SHIFTS TO TOWARDS RIVERTON POINT AND THERE'S A LOT OF SMOKE. UM, IF WE COULD PUBLICIZE A HOTLINE NUMBER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE COUNCIL AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN GO RIGHT TO THE SOURCE AND SAY THERE'S A LARGE SMELL OF FIRE AND, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME IMMEDIATE ACTION RATHER THAN GO THROUGH A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WE CALL YOU AND THEN YOU GO OVER. IS THERE A MORE DIRECT WAY THAT WE CAN PUBLICIZE? WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THIS OUT ON OUR WEBSITE, SOCIAL MEDIA. WE CAN GIVE OUR NON-EMERGENT, UH, FIRE STATION NUMBER AND ALSO WE CAN PUT THE, UM, ON THE HERE'S AND HELP. WE CAN PUT A SECTION IN THERE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DO THAT. THERE. I'LL WORK WITH, UH, JOHN AND THEM TO, TO GET THAT ON THERE AS WELL. AS WELL AS IT ALRIGHT. 'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL INITIATIVE ON YOUR PART AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF IT. AND, AND, UM, AND AGAIN, WE CAN'T, CAN'T PREDICT THE WINS. BUT AT LEAST THE PUBLIC KNOWS HOW TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS. RIGHT. THANK YOU, JOEY. UM, ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE NOW TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A COMMENT OR ASK A QUESTION REGARDING THE CHANGES TO THE BURNING OR ORDINANCES? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, [07:10:01] DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THE FIRST READING OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX B, MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE APPROVE ON FIRST READING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX B. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE PUBLIC OR COUNSEL? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. SECOND. READING IN TWO WEEKS. THANK YOU, CHIEF. NEXT IS A RESOLUTION. RESOLUTIONS. UH, OR NEXT, NEXT TIME YOU NEED A DEFINITION OF A CALL, JUST CALL ME. OKAY. THAT'S WHY WE NEED A TEAM TO, WHEREVER I FORGET SOMETHING, I HAVE SOMEONE TO HELP ME. THANK YOU, MR. CARROLL. YES, SIR. ANYTIME. UM, NEXT IS WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS. THERE'S ONLY ONE VOTE TO RESOLUTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE CITY COUNCIL, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT TO CONTINUE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DON RYAN CENTER FOR INNOVATION. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX DASH ONE F. MR. ZIBO, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE, UM, I BELIEVE OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, I LOSE TRACK OF TIME AGAIN, THAT THE, WE DID GET A PROGRESS REPORT FROM THE DON RYAN CENTER. UH, HE WENT, THEY WENT THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THEIR PROGRESS, THE WORK PLAN, WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED. UM, WE HAVE VERY CLOSE COORDINATION, UH, BETWEEN MR. PARSONS AND OUR MEDIA DEPARTMENT, UM, MONITORING THEIR PROGRESS. I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS AND, UH, QUESTIONS, UM, THAT WERE RAISED BY COUNCILMAN WHITE. UM, AND I, I BELIEVE WE'VE ADDRESSED THOSE. UM, WE BELIEVE THIS IS A VALUABLE TOOL. UM, IT IS A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT, BUT WE WILL, WE CAN MONITOR IT AND WE CAN GIVE THEM NOTICE IF WE'RE NOT SATISFIED AFTER THE FIRST YEAR OR SECOND YEAR OR THIRD YEAR, DEPENDING ON IT'S BASED ON THEIR PERFORMANCE, IN THEIR MEETING, SPECIFIC PERFORMANCE OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE ALL AGREED TO. SO WE BELIEVE FOR THE NOMINAL INVESTMENT, UM, OF 57,000 A YEAR, THIS PROVIDES A VALUABLE TOOL FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, UM, TO EXPAND IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF, OF THIS RESOLUTION TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DOWN RUN CENTER. OKAY. UH, LET'S START THE QUESTIONING WITH, UM, MR. MESMAN. UM, NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION, BUT I DO KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS AT DON RYAN CENTER HAS HELPED GET THEIR BUSINESS OFF THE GROUND. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF HARDY SHOULD CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN. THAT'S IT, MRS. GUZMAN, NO QUESTION MR. WHITE. UM, MY, UH, I SPOKE TO MIKE ACTUALLY AS LATE AS YESTERDAY ON THIS ISSUE. AND MY VIEW IS THAT, UH, WHAT WILL SELL ME ON THIS IS THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT IT EVERY YEAR. AND SO I THINK, UH, NEIL AND MIKE, YOUR JOB IS AFTER THE FIRST YEAR TO GIVE US A PROGRESS REPORT AS TO HOW IT'S GOING AND, UH, AND WE'LL SEE. SO I'M WILLING TO GO OUT ON THE LEAP OF FAITH, BUT I DO HAVE SOME REAL SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR EFFECTIVENESS BASED ON COMMENTS I'VE HEARD BEYOND JUST MY OWN, UH, POINT OF VIEW. BUT, UH, I'M, UH, I'M GONNA GO WITH 'EM AND, UH, BELIEVE THAT WE WILL MANAGE IT WELL. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT A YEAR FROM NOW AND SEE THE PROGRESS IN A REPORT, WHICH I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO. IS THAT NOT CORRECT, MIKE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, MR. CARROLL. UH, I AGREE WITH, UM, MR. WHITE. I'VE HAD SOME, SOME, UH, LITTLE BIT OF CONCERNS AND ISSUES ALSO, BUT I HAVE CHECKED AND A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE USING THEM NOW. AND, UM, UM, MR. SYMBO HAS, UM, I'M SURE HAS DEALT WITH THEM AND, AND, UM, NEIL, AND IF THEY RECOMMEND US, THEN I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND GIVE 'EM A SHOT. AND ALSO MY REASSURANCE WAS THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A THREE YEAR CONTRACT, WE CAN, UH, REVIEW IT EVERY YEAR. SO, UM, I'M SATISFIED. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE, I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE MEMBERSHIP HERE, KNOWING FULL WELL. AND WE, WHEN WE FIRST ENTERED INTO THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE, WE ALL UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WOULD TAKE TIME BEFORE WE, WE WERE ABLE TO FULLY, UH, UTILIZE, UH, OR [07:15:01] HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO MAKE, WARRANT THE INVESTMENT. BUT I, I LOOK AT, UH, MR. ZIM BOY'S EARLIER REPORT OF ALL THE, THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY. UH, ALSO, WE RECENTLY RECEIVED A LIST OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE REGISTERED IN THE, IN THE CITY. AND IT'S, IT'S NOT DOZENS, IT'S HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OPERATING BUSINESSES WITHIN OUR CITY, UH, AND PAYING BUSINESS LICENSE FEES. SO THE POTENTIAL HERE TO HELP OUR SMALL BUSINESSES IS, IS ENORMOUS. AND I, I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT IT'S THAT POTENTIAL THAT MAKES OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH DON RYAN, UM, UH, PRODUCTIVE. SO, UH, I SUPPORT IT. AND, UM, BUT I, I ALSO AGREE WITH MR. WHITE AND MR. AND MR. CARROLL THAT A YEARLY REVIEW, UM, IS, IS ESSENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, SPENDING OUR MONEY WISELY AND PRODUCTIVELY. UM, OKAY. HAVING SAID THAT, I'LL NOW OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC. WOULD ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT OR QUESTION REGARDING THE DON RYAN CENTER? I SEEING NONE. I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO, UH, RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SIX DASH ONE F. MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. LET'S, PARDON ME. UM, LOOK THE RIGHT PAGE THERE. AGAIN, APPROVE, UH, 2023 DASH SIX DASH ONE F. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, THAT IS APPROVED. AND WE GO ON TO RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER D, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH COLTON BILLING WALTERBORO, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR EMS BILLING AND FIRE COST RECOVERY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. UM, I SEE CHIEF KEMP IS GOING TO HANDLE THIS ONE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNSEL. UH, BACK IN APRIL, WE ISSUED AN RFP TO DO THE EMS BILLING. UH, WE DID RECEIVE FOUR, UH, RESPONDENTS, UH, LAST, LAST WEEK. UH, MYSELF, UH, FINANCE DIRECTOR, MR. BOYLE, AND MS. CINDY IN FINANCE, AND ONE OF OUR OTHER GUYS, UH, NEIL AND DYLAN COX, . SORRY. SORRY ABOUT THAT, NEIL. IT'S MY FAULT. UM, BUT THEY DID, UH, WE, WE, WE DID EVALUATE IT. AND, UH, AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT THAT WAS OUR SCORING THAT WE CAME UP WITH. UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE RATE, BUT THEY ARE ALSO A LOCAL COMPANY. AND THE BIGGEST THING WITH THAT IS WE ARE GOING TO GET ACTUAL ONSITE TRAINING FOR THE GUYS ON THE AMBULANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THE RIGHT WORDS. 'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T USE THE RIGHT WORDS, YOU DON'T GET THE MONEY. MM-HMM. . SO THEY'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BE DOWN HERE TO ACTUALLY TRAIN US ON A QUARTERLY BASIS IN-PERSON TRAINING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COLLECTING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY. SO OUR SUGGESTION IS TO GO WITH COLLETON BILLING AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA USE THEM TO BASICALLY HELP SET UP OUR, OUR, UH, FEE SCHEDULE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT THE FEE SCHEDULE TO YOU YET. BUT WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE AREA'S DOING, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO DOING THE BILLING FOR FING M COUNTY AND BEAUFORT COUNTY. SO THEY'D KNOW THE LOCAL, WHAT THE LOCALS ARE CHARGING, AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH THEM AND, AND GET THAT SCHEDULED. SO WE'LL BRING IT TO YOU SOON. BUT IN ADDITION, WE ALSO SET UP FOR THE FIRE FIRE BILLING, WHICH WE USED TO DO A WHILE BACK. UM, WE UPDATED THE ORDINANCES A FEW YEARS AGO. AND, UH, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BILLING. UM, THAT BILLING IS ONLY DONE ON LIKE VEHICLE ACCIDENTS AND THINGS THAT ARE NOT HARDY V CITIZENS. SO IF YOU'RE A HARDY V CITIZEN, YOU DON'T GET THAT BILL FOR THE FIRE COST RECOVERY. THAT IS ONLY TO TRY TO, BASICALLY, WE DID IT FOR 95 'CAUSE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH THERE AND THEY'RE FROM OUT OF TOWN. THEY DON'T PAY TAXES HERE, AND THEY USE A LOT OF OUR RESOURCES ON THE, THE BIG CRASHES, ESPECIALLY THOSE 18 WHEELERS. SO WE'RE TRY TO RECOVER SOME OF THAT COST. BACK WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WE WERE GETTING A PRETTY GOOD PENNY FOR THAT BACK THEN. AND SO WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY TO DO IT. SO WE'RE GONNA GET BACK TO THAT AND THEY'RE GONNA HELP US DO THAT. SO NOW WE'RE JUST, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MR. MESMAN, [07:20:01] WHAT IS, UH, THE TURNAROUND TIME ON BILLING? THEY SAID EVERYTHING'S BILLED WITHIN 72 HOURS. EVERYTHING'S BILLED WITH, BUT I MEAN, THEIR COLLECTION AND RE REMITTANCE BACK TO THE CITY, ARE THEY GONNA REIT ONCE A MONTH OR, UH, AS THEY GET IT, WE, WE CAN SET IT UP HOWEVER WE WANT. AND THAT'S SOME OF THE PROCESS WE'LL GET WITH THE, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. AND DO WE WANT IT WEEKLY? DO WE WANT IT DAILY? DO WE WANT IT MONTHLY? WE CAN SET THAT SCHEDULE AS TO WHEN THEY SEND US THE MONEY BACK. IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF BILL TO COLLECTED ONLY COLLECTED? IT'S THE 5.95 ON COLLECTED MONEY. BUT I MEAN, DID THEY GIVE YOU A PERCENTAGE OF YEAH. THEY'RE COLLECTED COLLECTING AROUND VERSUS BILL VERSUS, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT WAS IN THE NINETIES. OKAY. PERCENTAGE WISE. SO IT WAS VERY HIGH. GOOD. I'D LIKE THAT. YES. YES. THANK YOU. . MRS. GUZMAN. SO WHO'S GETTING BILL? SO A REGULAR CITIZENS, AL CITIZENS, WILL THEY GET A BILL FOR USING NO AMBULANCES? NO, ONLY TO, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR Y'ALL TO MAKE . OKAY. AND THAT, THAT'LL BE US BRINGING THAT SCHEDULE BACK, AND THEN WE CAN HASH OUT THOSE DETAILS. THE FIRE COST RECOVERY IS ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE, AND IF YOU'RE INSIDE A CITY LITS, YOU DO NOT GET BILLED FOR THAT. OKAY. WHAT I HAVE SEEN, AND SPECIFICALLY WE TALKED TO COLTON AND A COUPLE OTHERS, WHAT THEY DO IN A LOT OF CITIES IS THEY BILL THE INSURANCE, WHATEVER THE INSURANCE PAYS, THEY STOP RIGHT THERE. THEY DON'T GO AFTER THE INDIVIDUALS, BUT THEY AT LEAST GET DIFFERENCE. RIGHT. AND, AND, AND IT HELPS THEM AT LEAST PAY FOR THE, THE SUPPLIES THAT THEY USE ON THE CALL TO KEEP THE, YOU KNOW, JUST RIGHT. CAME FROM, DIDN'T YOU? SO IT, IT, IT'LL BE REALLY UP TO YOU GUYS HOW WE WANNA BILL, BUT WE'LL BRING ALL THOSE OPTIONS TO YOU WHEN WE BRING THE, THE, UH, ORDINANCE TO, TO ADJUST THE FEE SCHEDULE. MR. WHITE, STEVE, IN TERMS OF YOUR INTERNAL RESOURCES AND COORDINATING, UH, WITH JOHN, DO WE HAVE THE PEOPLE AND PROCESSES IN PLACE TO DO THIS? OR IS THAT GONNA STRESS YOU A LITTLE BIT? I'M JUST CURIOUS IN TERMS OF THE BILLING, IT STRESS ME, IT'S DEALING WITH MONEY, , . BUT WE, WE, OUR GUYS WILL HAVE, IT'LL BE VERY SIMPLE. THEY'RE BASICALLY CREATING THEIR EMS REPORTS LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS WE HAVE TO, AND THE, THE BILLING COMPANY ACTUALLY WILL JUST PULL THOSE REPORTS OVER AND THEN THEY'LL DO IT, AND THEN THE MONEY WILL THROUGH JOHN'S DEPARTMENT AT THAT POINT. SO YOU'RE ABLE TO BUILD ON SOME EXISTING THINGS AS OPPOSED TO NEEDING YES. THEY, THEY ACTUALLY TACK ONTO OUR, OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. YEAH. THEY'LL PULL RIGHT OUT OF OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT IS A STANDARDIZED, IT'S CALLED NEMSIS 3.5, AND IT'S THE SAME FORM, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT COMPANY YOU USE. SO IT PULLS THE SAME DATA FIELDS, EVERYTHING. SO THEY JUST PULL ALL THAT NEMSIS REPORT AND WITHIN 72 HOURS THEY BILL FOR THOSE, THOSE CALLS. IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD FOR US, IT'S VERY EASY. SO THEY LITERALLY JUST DO THEIR REPORT AND ONCE WE QA QI IT AND IT'S APPROVED, IT GOES TO THEM BASICALLY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU STEVE? YES, SIR. MR. CARROLL, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY, UM, QUESTIONS. I DO REMEMBER, STEVE, YOU WRITE YEARS AGO THAT WAS A MM-HMM. PRETTY LUCRATIVE, UM, THING. AND I'M, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU, YOU ARE HAPPY WITH AND YOU RECOMMEND, THEN THAT'S FINE WITH ME. I THINK THE TRAINING PART IS REALLY WHAT SOLD US ON GETTING THAT TRAINING CONSTANTLY. AND THEY LOCAL. YES. KIND OF A LOCAL. SO THAT'S GOOD. CHIEF, I JUST HAVE ONE CONCERN. YES, SIR. AND ONE ONLY. I DON'T, NOT NOT, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT I DO NOT WANT ANY RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE TO PAY ONE EXTRA PENNY FOR ANY FIRE OR EMS SERVICES. WELL, THEY DON'T PAY FOR FIRE FOR SURE. OKAY. THAT'S ALREADY DONE. SO WHEN WE EMS, THAT'S A, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION ON, ON ON. OKAY. SO, BUT YOU'LL BRING THAT FORWARD TO US. I BRING IT, I, I PERSONALLY OF OF THE OPINION, THEY PAY TAXES. WE, WE DID THIS TO SERVICE THEM WITH THE TAXES THAT WE CHARGE. AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE CHARGED FOR ANY AMBULANCE SERVICE. I, I AGREE WITH, WHAT WAS IT, COLTON? MM-HMM. . YOU GET WHAT YOU GET FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND THAT'S IT. RIGHT. AND I AGREE WITH THAT PART. IF WE CAN COLLECT SOMETHING FROM THE INSURANCE JUST TO GET OUR, SOME OF THE THES, THE, THE EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, THE SOFT GOODS THAT WE HAVE TO USE ON THE CALL, IF WE CAN GET MONEY TO PAY THAT BACK, THEN I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT. AND IF THEY'RE FROM NEW JERSEY OR NEW YORK SERGEANT. DOUBLE FAIR GAME. BOY, ILLINOIS , I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. THEY'RE VERY ADVANCED IN, PLEASE. UM, TELL ME ABOUT PULLING THE REPORTS TO SEND IT TO MM-HMM. . YES, MA'AM. HIP HIPAA, THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE HIPAA AGREEMENTS HAVE TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT. YEP. THE HIPAA, WELL, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T SIGN A HIPAA AGREEMENT TO TURN IT OVER TO BILLING BECAUSE BILLING IS COVERED UNDER THE HIPAA AGREEMENT. SO WE CAN SHARE WITH THE BILLING COMPANY THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN-HOUSE. IF THEY LET IT OUT, THEN THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO ANSWER THE HIPAA VIOLATIONS, NOT US. SO IT DOES COME ON THEM, NOT US. AND WITH THE TRAINING FOR MM-HMM. THE VARIOUS CODE THAT THEY HAVE TO USE. YES MA'AM. BILLING, UH, WOULDN'T [07:25:01] THAT BE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE USES THE CALENDAR REPORTS, WOULDN'T THAT BE EASIER IF THOSE CODES ARE BUILT? THEY ARE, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS JUST, JUST THE CODES ARE THERE. IT'S, IT'S NOT THE CODE SECTION. IT'S WHEN YOU START YOUR NARRATIVE THAT THEY WANT SPECIFIC WORDS TO GO WITH THOSE CODES THAT YOU'VE PICKED IS, IF YOU DON'T COORDINATE THE TWO TOGETHER, THEN THEY'RE LIKE, OH, THOSE DON'T MATCH, THROW IT OUT. SO THAT'S IT. JUST TEACHING THEM. OKAY. IF YOU PICK CARDIAC ARREST, YOU NEED TO HIT THESE KEY INDICATORS IN YOUR NARRATIVE REPORT TO CONVINCE THAT. YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S OKAY. ANY OTHER MR. ZIBO? YEAH, JUST A COUPLE POINTS, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, SO WE HAVE TO GET CERTIFIED FOR MEDICARE, MEDICAID, AND THEN THE PRIVATE PAY. SO, I MEAN, IT'S A PROCESS TO DO THAT AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. IT'S, IT'S PRETTY INVOLVED, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE REALLY HIRING A PROFESSIONAL THAT CAN DO A LOT OF THAT BILLING FOR US. AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, JUST ANSWERING MR. WHITE'S QUESTION, WE ARE GOING TO PUT MISS, UH, OLIVER, OUR BUSINESS LICENSE EXTRAORDINAIRE. SHE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BILLING SYSTEM. SO WE DEFINITELY WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE COLLECT WHAT THE COUNCIL BELIEVES IS AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT AND, UH, PER OUR FEE SCHEDULE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. IMPRESSIVE. AND LIKE HE SAID, THE CARLETON IS GONNA HELP US GET ALL OF THOSE, THE MEDICARE, MEDICAID, ALL THOSE SET UP. SO THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE. THEY'VE DONE IT A HUNDRED TIMES. THEY SAID, SO THEY ARE GONNA HELP US. AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE ALSO PICKED THEM, IS THEY, THEY REALIZE THAT WE'RE A NEW EMS SERVICE AND THEY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP Y'ALL GET ALL THOSE SQUARED AWAY. SO THAT WAS A GOOD THING. WE'VE COME A LONG WAY IN ONE YEAR'S TIME. YEAH. YES, SIR. PROUD OF YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I CALL THE QUESTION? GOOD JOB. OKAY. I'D LIKE A MOTION NOW TO APPROVE THIS, APPROVE OR MAKE ANY CHANGES TO, THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A, UM, MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX D. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. UM, AND I THINK I MISSED SOMETHING. I'LL NOW OPEN IT ALSO UP TO THE PUBLIC. DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UM, I HAVE ONE THING, MR. MAYOR. YES. UM, THE 5, 9 5, I DID TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT PERCENTAGE RATE, UM, BECAUSE WE ARE A NEW SERVICE AND THE UNKNOWN OF HOW MANY CALLS THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO BILL, THAT'S WHY IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. THEY SAID, AS THEY GET SOME DATA IN, AND AS OUR CALL VOLUME INCREASES, THAT NUMBER'S GONNA COME DOWN AS WELL. SO THAT'LL BE EVERY YEAR WE WILL REEVALUATE THAT AND MAYBE START GETTING, BRINGING THAT DOWN TOO. SO THAT'LL HELP US COLLECT A LITTLE MORE MONEY FOR US. OH, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. YES, SIR. NICE. ADD ON. THANK YOU. ALL THE GOOD NEWS. YEAH. . OKAY. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER E, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNCIL, ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL FOR MACMILLAN P SMITH OF CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA TO CONDUCT THE SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CONTRACT. THIS IS, UH, RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX E. MR. DAVIS, YOU GONNA HANDLE THIS ONE? YES, SIR. OKAY. GO AHEAD. HELLO, EVERYONE. UM, FIRST I HAVE TO SAY, I'M ALWAYS CONFUSED THIS TIME OF DAY AS IF I COULD SAY, UM, GOOD EVENING OR GOOD AFTERNOON. SO ME, IF THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE A RULING BETWEEN LIKE FIVE AND SIX, IS THAT AFTERNOON OR EVENING? MR. MR. DAVIS, I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT THE OLD PEOPLE ARE ON THIS SIDE OF THE DESK AND YOU'LL BE ON THAT SIDE OF THE DAY. I MEAN, REALLY, I'M, I'M, I'M AT A LOSS, BUT ANYWAY. OKAY. GREETINGS. UH, IT IS, UH, NOW OFFICIALLY EVENING. I SEE IT'S SIX O'CLOCK. ALRIGHT. 6 0 1. GOOD EVENING. YOU, YOU CAN SAY GOOD EVENING. OKAY. UM, YEAH, SO AS YOU SAID, UH, THIS IS A, WE'RE ASKING YOU TO, UH, LET US ENTER IN A CONTRACT WITH MCMILLAN PEA AND SMITH TO CONDUCT A SPACE NEEDS STUDY, AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL OUR FACILITIES. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY TRACKED ME WHEN I CAME HERE TO HARVILLE WAS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE CITY'S GROWING. WE'VE ALREADY HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS THIS EVENING, BUT ALSO THE ORGANIZATION'S GROWING. AND WHEN WE DO THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED MORE SPACE FOR PEOPLE AS WELL. AND THAT'S PART OF THIS. SO, OR A BIG PART OF THIS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING INITIALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAD MONEY IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR TO ENGINEER AND DESIGN, UH, A NEW CITY HALL, EXPANDED CITY HALL, WHATEVER THE CASE WAS GONNA BE. BUT THEN WE KIND OF TOOK A STEP BACK AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES AND WHAT WE HAVE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WHAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE, NOT JUST IN THIS BUILDING, BUT [07:30:01] ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS. SO WE DID THAT AND WE PUT OUT AN RFQ TO, TO DO THAT ANALYSIS. AND WE HAD THREE RESPONDENTS. UH, WE HAD A AD HOC COMMITTEE, AND WE, WE GRADED THEM, SCORED THEM. AND WE INTERVIEWED IN PERSON THE, UH, TOP TWO SCORES. AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO WITH, UM, MCMILLAN, PE, AND SMITH. UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT ALL THESE FACILITIES. THEY'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW STAFF, ELECTED OFFICIALS. THEY'RE GONNA, THERE'S A PUBLIC OUTREACH COMPONENT. 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE OUTSIDE USERS AS WELL. THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THEM, UM, AND TALK TO THEM AND, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY USE OUR FACILITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL, OTHER BUILDINGS AS WELL. SO THAT'S ALL GOOD. AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE'RE ALSO GONNA GET A TOOL, A WEB-BASED TOOL THAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE LIKE A SCORING MATRIX FOR ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TOP TO BOTTOM. WHAT, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN OUR BUILDINGS? WHAT ARE THE, WHAT DOES THE HVAC SYSTEM LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S THE ROOF LOOK LIKE? WHAT KIND OF WINDOWS DO WE HAVE? ALL THAT STUFF. YOU KNOW, MR. BROWN AND HIS TEAM REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION ALL IN ONE SPOT. AND THIS WILL BE A, A PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN GET INTO AND EDIT AND REALLY HELP OUR FACILITIES MAINTENANCE AS WE GO FORWARD AND BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. UH, I THINK THIS IS GONNA POINT THE DIRECTION, UH, FOR HARDY FOR QUITE SOME TIME FOR OUR FACILITIES. AND, UM, SO WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET STARTED. UH, BRIAN FESSLER WITH MCMILLAN PEAS AND SMITH IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF, OF THE FIRM OR I'LL ENTER, I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVEN'T. OKAY. UM, I THINK WE START WITH MR. CARROLL THIS TIME. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MATT. UM, IF, UM, YOU THINK THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SOME SPACE ISSUES AND WHATEVER, AND I KNOW MR. BROWN'S GOT HIS HANDS FULL, UM, EVERY DAY. UM, I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL RECOMMEND THAT AND MIKE GOES ALONG, THAT'S FINE. NO QUESTIONS. MR. WHITE. MATT, BEYOND THE INTERVIEWING THAT YOU DO WITH STAFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY MUST HAVE SOME TECHNOLOGY AND SOME SOFTWARE KINDS OF THINGS, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M MOST INTERESTED IN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A REAL ADVANTAGE TO HAVE CUTTING EDGE SOFTWARE AND SPACE PLANNING AND THIS KIND OF THING. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? NOT, AND I'M NOT QUESTIONING THEIR COMPETENCE. I'M, I'M DOING THIS MORE TO SEE THE GOOD CHOICE AND EXACTLY HOW SOFTWARE AND TECHNOLOGY ENTERS INTO THIS BEYOND SORT OF THE INTERVIEW KIND OF THING. BE QUITE FRANK WITH YOU. I THINK MR. FESS WOULD BE A, A MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I MEAN, THEY'RE THE EXPERTS, THEY'RE THE ARCHITECTS, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN ANSWER THAT MUCH BETTER THAN ME. SO I'LL INVITE HIM UP HERE IF IT'S OKAY. SURE. GOOD EVENING. UM, WELCOME. SO IN REGARDS TO THE SOFTWARE QUESTION, WHAT WE WOULD, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIPLE LEVELS FROM THE FACILITIES ION, UH, ASSESSMENTS, SOFTWARE TOOLS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE ASSESSMENT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE DATA THAT'S ACTIONABLE. SO FOR A PARTICULAR FACILITY, YOU MIGHT REALIZE THAT THE, THERE IS A EXPECTED FIVE YEAR LEFT, FIVE YEARS LEFT ON A ROOF OR A MECHANICAL SYSTEM. SO THAT CAN GIVE YOU SOME FORWARD THINKING TO BUDGET FOR FUTURE ONGOING MAINTENANCE FOR THE FACILITIES YOU HAVE. DOES THAT ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS? UH, CAN WE, BEFORE, UH, WOULD GO ANY FURTHER, WOULD YOU PLEASE FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS BRIAN FESSLER. I'M AN ARCHITECT WITH MCMILLAN PAST AND SMITH. AND, UH, YOUR POSITION WITH MCMILLAN IS WHAT? UH, ARCHITECT. ARCHITECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, MR. WHITE, THAT'S ENCOURAGING BECAUSE THERE'S AN ART TO THIS BEYOND INTERVIEWING PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT YOU HAVE THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOT OF THIS DATA AND PUT IT INTO SOMETHING THAT GIVES US PRETTY RELIABLE PREDICTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS AND PROCESSES. AND FROM WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING, YEAH, WE DO. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MAKES US THE REASON WHY PEOPLE LIKE MATT WANT TO CHOOSE US. SO, SO THAT WOULD COVER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COVER THINGS FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINTS SPACE, NEEDS DEPARTMENT GROWTH. WE ALSO COVER BUILDING ENVELOPE, WINDOWS, ROOFS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THEN THERE'S THE OTHER COMPONENT, UH, THAT'S THE ENGINEERING PART. SO WE HAVE ENGINEERS, UH, AS PART OF OUR TEAM AS WELL. THEY CAN EVALUATE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS, ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS, BECAUSE EVERY PART OF THE BUILDING HAS A USEFUL, SOME OF 'EM ARE LONGER THAN OTHERS, AND SOME ARE MORE COSTLY THAN OTHERS TO RE REPLACE. SO WHAT IT SAYS TO ME, YOU HAVE THE ART OF DOING IT AND THE SCIENCE OF DOING IT. AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. YEP. AND, UM, AND, UM, WE, WE'LL PRESENT THE DATA. UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN PUT IT IN PDF REPORTS, BUT THERE'LL ALSO BE A, UH, ONLINE TOOL THAT ANYONE FROM THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY NEEDS TO [07:35:01] LOOK AT CAN, YOU KNOW, SEE THAT KIND OF LIVE AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE ENTERING THE DATA IN THERE AND LOOKING IN WHATEVER, UH, FORMAT'S HELPFUL SO IT CAN BE EXPORTED INTO EXCEL DOCUMENTS, UH, HOWEVER THE CITY CHOOSES TO USE THAT INFORMATION. AND WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY AND THE FACILITIES PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR FINDINGS ARE AND TALK ABOUT IT MORE IN MORE LAYMAN'S TERMS. SOMETIMES THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT, TO MAKE IT, OUR GOAL WITH THIS STUDY IS TO MAKE IT USEFUL SO THAT THE CITY CAN REALLY BE PROACTIVE AND PLAN FOR THE NEXT 5, 10, 20 YEARS OF WHAT YOU NEED FOR SPACE NEEDS IN THE FUTURE. AND, UH, ONGOING FACILITY MAINTENANCE. THANK YOU, MRS. GUZMAN. UH, I HAVE, UH, GENERAL QUESTION WE'LL ASK . SO THANK YOU MR. MESMAN. NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. UM, I REALLY THINK THIS IS A GOOD AND NECESSARY STEP. UM, WE, WE DO NEED TO ASSESS WHERE WE NEED TO BE, BUT WHAT I WOULD JUST, UM, SAY TO MR. ZIBO, UM, I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL STILL NEEDS TO, AT SOME POINT DECIDE THE WHERE DO WE WANT TO EXPAND HERE? OR DO WE WANT TO PUT CITY HALL IN ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE RECENTLY ACQUIRED? DO WE DO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL AND MAKE THIS A NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS. THE, WHERE I THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE, UH, MIKE AT THIS COUNCIL LEVEL, AND I, I ASSUME THAT WOULD BE AFTER WE GET AN, AN ASSESSMENT OF NEED, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT WILL IDENTIFY LOCATIONS AND COSTS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, SIR. OKAY. UM, THE, WHERE IS, WHERE IS WHAT ALWAYS HAUNTS ME. HOW, WHERE SHOULD WE DO THESE THINGS? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT OR ASK THE QUESTION REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? OH, YOU KNOW, I FORGOT ONE OTHER QUESTION. HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST? UH, I WAS WONDERING, YOU CAUGHT ME. NOW. UM, WE HAVE A BUDGETED AMOUNT WHERE, SO INTERESTING ENOUGH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I RECENTLY A FEW MONTHS LEARNED IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WHEN YOU PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR QUALIFICATIONS WHERE ARCHITECTS ARE INVOLVED, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SCORE IT ON PRICE. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE FIRMS, AND NOW WE WILL GET AN, WE WILL ENTER INTO A NEGOTIATION TO WHAT IT'S GONNA COST. NOW WE HAVE AN, UH, AMOUNT THAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR THIS ALREADY, BUT WE, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T COME TO THOSE TERMS YET. WE JUST, UH, WE JUST MADE A RECOMMENDATION LAST WEEK, BUT WE WILL COME BACK AND TELL YOU THAT. AND OBVIOUSLY IF IT'S A NUMBER THAT WE CAN'T LIVE WITH, WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, BUT, OKAY. UM, YEAH, THAT'S, I GUESS, I GUESS THE ARCHITECTS HAD A POWERFUL LOBBY SOMEWHERE AND GOT A LAW PASSED, SO YEAH, HE UNDERSTANDS. WE WE'RE, WE'RE A PRETTY CHEAP GOOP UP HERE. RIGHT? YOU'VE GOT SHARP PENCILS, IS THAT RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. UM, OKAY. UH, AGAIN, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX E. MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX E. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? SEEING NONE? I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARDY V, SOUTH CAROLINA CITY COUNCIL, ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL FROM NIGHT TOUR CHARLESTON, SOUTH CAROLINA FOR DOOR ACCESS AND BUILDING SECURITY AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO THE CONTRACT. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX F AND I SEE WE HAVE MR. KIMBER UP TO ANSWER TO PRESENT THIS ITEM IN-PERSON ROLE. YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL. GOOD ADMINISTRATION. GOOD. HOW ARE Y'ALL? UH, SO THIS IS A, UH, SOMETHING THAT THE CITY'S TALKED ABOUT FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF LINGERED A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT, IT GOT KIND OF PUSH FAST FORWARD, UM, AT THIS TIME. SO THIS IS FOR DOOR ACCESS AND SECURITY TO, UM, HEAVY TRAFFIC AREAS OR HEAVY TRAFFIC FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY. [07:40:01] UM, ONE, IT'S GONNA GIVE GREATER SECURITY TO THE EMPLOYEES, GREATER TRACKING. UM, AND TWO, IT'S GONNA HELP SECURE THE CITIZENS AS WELL. SO WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THE FEATURES. SO THIS IS AN AUTOMATED, UH, DOOR ENTRY SYSTEM, UH, INTEGRATED WITH CAMERAS, UH, INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AS WELL. UM, THIS ONE IS NOT WORKING. WE NEED TO, THERE IT IS. OPEN THAT DOOR. UM, SO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY JUST THE OLD DOOR PANEL, UM, THAT YOU WOULD WALK UP TO. UM, WE, WE ALL SEE SOME OF THESE OVER AT THE REC CENTER, UH, SLIGHTLY LARGER SCALE. UM, AND WITH THAT DOOR CENTER, UM, IT'S SCALABLE HERE. IT INTEGRATES WITH CAMERAS, UH, AS YOU SEE AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING. IT'S KIND OF, KIND OF, UM, CROPPED OFF THERE, BUT THE CAMERA WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR FACIAL RECOGNITION AS WELL. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, ONCE SOMEBODY WALKS THROUGH THE DOOR AND YOU REVIEW WHO WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR, YOU CAN ACTUALLY ADD A NAME TO 'EM. IT'S NOT BIOMETRICS OR IT'S NOT BIG BROTHER LOOKING AFTER YOU OR ANYTHING ELSE. NOTHING REPORTING TO THE FBI. IT'S THE DATA THAT YOU ENTER BASED ON THE PERSONNEL THAT YOU ALLOW ACCESS, UM, TO CERTAIN AREAS. SO, UM, BIG THING ABOUT IT, UM, HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENTS HERE, UM, AND, UH, AND, AND THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW. UM, SO IT ALLOWS FOR REMOTE MANAGEMENT, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR SCALABILITY AS WELL. SO IT'S A LIMITLESS SCALE. UM, IT CAN BE ADDED TO MULTIPLE BUILDINGS AND STILL CONTROLLED WITH THE SAME, UM, CLOUD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CONTROLS THE PRODUCT ITSELF. UM, DIFFERENT WAYS OF, OF ENTRY. SO THERE'S VERSATILE ACCESS METHODS, UM, WHICH THIS IS A REALLY GOOD THING. SO RIGHT NOW WE USE CARDS IN, IN A COUPLE OF FACILITIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE THE DOOR ACCESS SYSTEM. UH, BUT, UH, WITH THIS, YOU CAN USE YOUR CELL PHONE. UM, IF YOU'RE AN AUTHORIZED USER, YOU GET A PIN CODE, IT'S PUT INTO YOUR CELL PHONE. IT'S A BLUETOOTH INDICATION. SO AS YOU WALK UP TO THE DOOR, THE DOOR RECOGNIZES YOU. SO IF YOUR HANDS ARE FULL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STOP, PULL OUT A CARD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL OUT YOUR WALLET. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL OUT A KEY TO UNLOCK THE DOOR. ONCE YOU STOP IN FRONT OF THE DOOR, IT'LL ACTUALLY AUTOMATICALLY UNLOCK THE DOOR FOR YOU. UM, 'CAUSE IT VALIDATES WHO YOU ARE THROUGH THAT UNIQUE PEN, UH, THROUGH ENCRYPTED COMMUNICATION ON BLUETOOTH, UH, TO THE DEVICE. ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CAMERAS, ONCE YOU REGISTER THE PERSONNEL WITH THE CAMERAS, WITH THE FACIAL RECOGNITION, IF THE CAMERA SEES YOU WALKING UP TO THE DOOR AND YOU'RE AUTHORIZED ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY, IT WILL UNLOCK THE DOOR FOR YOU AUTOMATICALLY AS WELL. UM, ALSO THE, THE LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THE SECURITY SIDE IS, UH, LOCKIN OR LOCKOUT PROCEDURES. SO IF THERE WERE, UH, ANY EMERGENCIES, ACTIVE SHOOTERS, UH, ANY THREATS TO THE STAFF, ANY THREATS TO THE CITIZENS, UM, WE HAVE LOCKIN AND LOCKOUT PROCEDURES. AND ALONG WITH THEM LOCK IN AND LOCKOUT PROCEDURES, WE HAVE THE ANALYTICS BEHIND IT BECAUSE IT DOES KEEP AN, UH, UH, A COPY OF WHO'S ACTUALLY INSIDE THE BUILDING. SO YOU CAN DO AN INVENTORY OF PERSONNEL, UM, BASED ON THE BLUETOOTH SWIPES OR THE FACIAL RECOGNITION OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME IN. IF IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE 'EM LEAVING, IT'LL HAVE THEM INSIDE THE BUILDING. SO IF YOU NEED INVENTORY, YOUR PERSONNEL, INVENTORY, YOUR STAFF, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SECURE, IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO HAVE THAT ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, WITH THE STAFF AS WELL. SO, UM, IT'S CONTROLLED THROUGH ACTIVE DIRECTORY. NO NEED TO GET INTO THE WEEDS, UM, BEHIND THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST ASSIGNING PERMISSIONS AND SENDING, SENDING THOSE PERMISSIONS TO THE DIFFERENT DEVICES FOR THE FACILITIES THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED ACCESS TO. UM, ALONG WITH THIS, UH, WE TALK ABOUT VENDOR CONTROL AS WELL. SO RIGHT NOW, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A GOOD CONTROL OVER VENDORS. WE GIVE 'EM THE KEY CODE TO THE DOOR, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS GOT THE KEY CODE TO THE DOOR FOR THE LITTLE PUNCH CODES. WELL, NOW WE CAN REGULATE, OKAY, VENDOR X, YOU HAVE ACCESS FROM 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM ON CERTAIN CERTAIN DAYS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOUR PROJECT'S OVER WITH IN 10 DAYS. 10 DAYS YOUR ACCESS IS, UM, EXPIRES. UM, SO WE HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, OVER VENDORS, UM, AND SO WE CAN KEEP THEM FROM GOING INTO, UM, SENSITIVE AREAS WITHIN, WITHIN THE CITY. SO, AND THAT'S THE CREATING THE SCHEDULE IN THE GROUPS, UH, THAT I JUST JUST MENTIONED IN FILTERING THE ACCESS CONTROL AS WELL. UM, SO ANOTHER THING, SO A THING CALLED TAILGATING WHERE ONE PERSON OPENS THE DOOR FOR ANOTHER PERSON AND, UM, IT'LL ACTUALLY SEND ALERTS TO WHOEVER THE OVERSEER IS, WHICH WILL BE THE IT DEPARTMENT AT THIS, AT THIS POINT. UM, THAT THERE'S A TAILGATE EVENT THAT HAPPENED AT DOOR X. AND WE CAN REVIEW THAT TAILGATE EVENT TO SEE IF IT'S ACTUALLY AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S AUTHORIZED TO BE IN THAT AREA. OR, UM, IS IT SOMEBODY THAT JUST TAILGATED [07:45:01] IN THE DOOR? WE CAN ALERT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. UM, WE CAN ALERT THE E 9 1 1 SERVICES AND TAKE ANY ACTION THAT, THAT WE NEED TO TAKE AT THAT POINT, UM, BASED ON THAT TAILGATE EVENT. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT EVENTS THAT YOU CAN TAG AS WELL. TAILGATING IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF ONE. AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, WE RECEIVED THE PROACTIVE ALERTS. UM, SO THIS AGREEMENT IS, UH, A FIVE-YEAR AGREEMENT. UM, I HAVE DEMOED THE PRODUCT. UH, SO WE DEMOED THE PRODUCT OVER AT THE EOC BUILDING, UH, WITH THE CAMERAS. UH, ANOTHER GOOD THING WITH THE CAMERAS AS WELL, SO IF WE'RE SEARCHING FOR INDIVIDUALS, UM, IT DOES HAVE A KEYWORD SEARCH. SO WE WENT IN THERE AND WE SAID, OH, WE NEED TO FIND SOMEBODY WITH A RED SHIRT AND A BLACK BACKPACK. WE CAN TYPE IN RED SHIRT, BLACK BACKPACK, VIDEO GOES EXACTLY TO THAT POINT. HERE THEY ARE. THIS IS THE TIME THAT THEY CAME IN, THIS IS THE TIME THAT THEY LEFT. THIS IS THE AREA THAT THEY LEFT. UH, SO IF, UH, IT'LL ASSIST WITH SOME POLICE INVESTIGATIONS FOR UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS, BUT ALSO, AGAIN, ACCOUNTABILITY OF PERSONNEL. SO I OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS. THIS IS A, A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. WE HAVE BUDGETED, UM, BETWEEN FY 23 AND FY TWENTY FOUR, A HUNDRED EIGHTY 5,000. WE WILL COME IN WELL BELOW, UM, THAT NUMBER, UH, TO ACTUALLY GET THIS COMPLETED. SO OPEN UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS. MR. MESMAN, LET'S START WITH YOU NOW. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME. UH, SO ALL THE PARTS ARE AVAILABLE, UH, SO 30 TO 60 DAYS FROM THE TIME WE SIGN A UH, PO. JAMES, TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPANY YOU'VE SELECTED. THEY, THEY SEEM IMPRESSIVE TO ME IN TERMS OF TECHNOLOGY, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, THIS ISN'T THEIR FIRST DAY AT THE RODEO. YEP. SO IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY A COMBINATION OF TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES. SO THE ONE COMPANY IS ADA. THEY ACTUALLY PRODUCE ALL THE HARDWARE, UM, THAT'S INVOLVED HERE AND THE SOFTWARE BEHIND THE TECHNOLOGY AND, AND THE AI BEHIND THE TECHNOLOGY AS WELL. UM, THEY'RE OUTTA CALIFORNIA, BUT THEY ARE WELL KNOWN IN THE US THEY'RE INDUSTRY TOP OF THE INDUSTRY FOR PROVIDING SECURITY, FOR BUILDING SECURITY ACCESS AND BUILDING SECURITY VIDEO SURVEILLANCE. UM, THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING THE INSTALLATION IS AN AUTHORIZED VENDOR, UH, OF ADA. UM, AND, UH, THEY HAVE OVER 18 YEARS EXPERIENCE, UH, DOING INSTALLATIONS FOR ADA PRODUCTS ONLY. UH, SO, UH, THEY WERE RECOMMENDED BY ADA. WE DID REVIEW THREE OTHER, UM, EVENTS AS WELL. UH, ONE WITH HOWARD TECHNOLOGIES AND A COUPLE OTHERS. UH, THE PRICE WAS OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGET RANGE, SO, UM, IT MADE IT AN EASY DECISION TO GO WITH RICOTTA. AND THE FACT THAT THEY GAVE US A DEMO, I AM, AND I STILL HAVE THE DEMO UP IN THE EOC, UM, WE, THEY GAVE US A 30 DAY DEMO, BUT THEY SAID, HERE, KEEP IT. I'VE HAD IT UP FOR OVER 60 DAYS DEMOING IT. SO, SOUNDS LIKE THE WHITE HOUSE COULD USE THESE GUYS. , JOHN, UM, I GUESS THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, I'M, I'M GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION. I GUESS MIKE KNOWS WHAT I'M GONNA ASK, BUT DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH COUNCIL CHAMBER SECURITY? SO, UM, THAT IS, UH, COMPLETELY UP TO YOU. SO WE DO, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE DID COME IN UNDER BUDGET AS FAR AS THE CAMERAS AND THE DOOR ACCESS SYSTEM ITSELF. SO WE HAVE AVAILABILITY, UM, TO ADD TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ITSELF. BUT WE WILL HAVE MULTIPLE CAMERAS IN THE HALLWAYS AT THE ENTRANCES THROUGH, BASICALLY THROUGH EVERY DOOR THAT HAS A KEYPAD RIGHT NOW, PLUS EVERY EXTERIOR ENTRANCE INTO THE BUILDING, THERE'LL BE A CAMERA FACING THOSE DOORS. SO BOTH HALLWAYS, THERE'LL BE TWO CAMERAS FRONT, BACK, SIDE TO SIDE. AND ALSO THIS BACK ENTRANCE HERE. UM, THERE'LL BE A CAMERA HERE AS WELL. I WAS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WAS THE WINDOWS, BUT I GUESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO. 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR AT LEAST EIGHT, 10 MONTHS. WELL, UM, YEAH, THE BULLETPROOF GLASS STUFF WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. UM, BUT I'VE BEEN GUARANTEED THAT, UH, WE CAN HAVE THIS DONE WITHIN 30 TO 60 DAYS. UM, ALL THE PARTS ARE AVAILABLE AND ALL THE PARTS ARE IN STOCK. UM, UH, LEMME START WITH THE COST. YES, SIR. I'M LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE IN, IN FRONT OF ME AT $161,000, AND YOU SAID THIS IS A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT. IS THIS $161,000 AND WE'RE DONE, OR IS THIS $161,000 A YEAR? SO WE'RE 161,000 AND WE'RE DONE. THAT'S A FIVE YEAR LICENSE AND A FIVE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION FOR ACCESS TO THE SOFTWARE. OKAY. UM, UH, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL COST THAT WOULD COME WITH ANY OF THIS IS IF WE PURCHASED, IF WE WANTED TO PURCHASE MORE BADGES. BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW AS IS WHENEVER WE HIRE AN EMPLOYEE, BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE SAYS THAT EMPLOYEE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR BADGE ON THEM WITH, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO BE IDENTIFIED. SO, I, I HAVE NO OBJECTION. I, I THINK IT'S A NICE SYSTEM AND GOOD SECURITY, BUT I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, [07:50:01] WHAT MR. CARROLL SAID. AND, AND I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS GONNA SAY, AND I'M GLAD HE DID. THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN ASKING FOR IMPROVED SECURITY ON THIS ROOM FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SPEND $161,000 ON, ON SECURITY AND STILL NOT HAVE THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST TO FIX THIS. UH, AND, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNCIL WHEN, WITH THIS, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ASK WITH THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO BECOME MORE SECURE. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD, UH, JOHN, MR. BROWN HAS, UH, STEPPED OUT. WE'RE HAVING SOME HEAT AND AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN FEEL IT UP THERE, BUT WE CAN FEEL IT IN THE BACK. SO HE'S WORKING ON THOSE. UM, WE JUST TODAY RECEIVED A PO, THE, THE, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT THEY NEED FOR THE BULLETPROOF GLASS AND SO FORTH IS NOW GOING TO BE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. SO THAT PO CAME TO FINANCE LATE THIS AFTERNOON. SO WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. UM, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ALL THE ISSUES, BUT I KNOW ONE OF THE BIG THINGS HAS BEEN AVAILABILITY AND ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO GET THE PARTS AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEEDED TO DO THAT. AND THAT IS PROGRESSING. AND, AND YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING WITH THAT. I WOULD CAN'T SPEAK FOR MR. BROWN, BUT LIKE I SAY, FROM A FINANCE STANDPOINT, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PAPERWORK TYPE STUFF STARTING TO HAPPEN ON THAT. I, I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS EXPRESSED ITS CONCERN OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, I KNOW EVEN YEARS AGO THEY'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, PANIC BUTTONS WHERE, YOU KNOW, A BULLETPROOF WINDOW COMES UP IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. I MEAN, WE'RE BASED ON THE CRAZINESS OF THIS WORLD, THE FIVE, UH, NOT FIVE, THE NINE OF US THAT SIT UP HERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONSTANTLY EXPOSED AND THAT'S WHY THE COUNCIL ASKED TO HAVE GREATER SECURITY. SO, UH, WE IS, IT'S JUST A REMINDER. I KNOW THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS, BUT THAT IS STILL REMAINS A PRIORITY FOR THIS COUNCIL. AM AM I RIGHT, COUNSEL? YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, UH, JUST AS AN ADDITION, BECAUSE WE ARE WELL UNDER BUDGET, UH, FOR WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT TO ADD TWO EXTRA DOORS FOR THE LOCK-IN LOCKOUT PROCEDURES, WHICH WILL BE THESE TWO DOORS HERE, BECAUSE THIS ONE WE'RE ALREADY HAVE IT ON IT. UM, AND TO GIVE ACCESS TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSONNEL BEING COUNCIL, ADMINISTRATION, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HIT THAT PANIC BUTTON ON THAT APP TO BE ABLE TO DO A LOCK IN OR LOCKOUT PROCEDURE, WE CAN VERY WELL DO THAT ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAVE COME IN WELL UNDER BUDGET. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. UH, MR. MAYOR, I, YES. DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. SINCE THIS IS A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, IS THERE A PRICE FOR AFTER FIVE YEARS TO, FOR THE SOFTWARE? I MEAN, DOES, IS THE EQUIPMENT, UH, GOOD FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS? SO, UM, AS ANYTHING WITH TECHNOLOGY, THINGS, THINGS ADVANCE, UM, OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. I MEAN, EVEN FROM TODAY TO TOMORROW, UM, THIS COMPANY IS AN INDUSTRY LEADER IN THE PRODUCTS THAT THEY DO DESIGN. THE SOFTWARE ITSELF WILL BECOME PROBABLY MORE ROBUST QUICKER THAN THE ACTUAL HARDWARE APPLIANCES. MM-HMM. AND BE ABLE TO DO MORE AS FAR AS AI. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S SEEING AI ON, ON THE NEWS AND EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW. MM-HMM. . SO IT'LL, THE SOFTWARE ITSELF WILL PROBABLY BE, BE ABLE TO DO MORE FASTER THAN THE HARDWARE ITSELF WILL INCREASE. UM, CAMERAS ARE PRETTY MUCH CAMERAS. I MEAN, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING FOR STUFF THAT'S ON DRONES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S SOME REAL HIGH TECHNOLOGY THERE. UH, SO, UM, IT'S HARD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BUT THERE WILL BE A REPLACEMENT PLAN. UH, THAT LIFECYCLE WILL PROBABLY END AFTER FIVE YEARS TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THE HARDWARE. NOW, AS FAR AS THE DOOR STRIKES AND THE DOOR STRIKE SHOULD BE VIABLE FOR, FOR, FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS, BUT THE CAMERAS THEMSELVES, THAT TECHNOLOGY WILL DEFINITELY CHANGE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES. ONE MORE QUESTION, JAMES. AND, UH, IT JUST, IT JUST HIT ME WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE, UM, VIDEO. NOW WE HAVE, UM, LIKE, UM, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, HURRICANES, THINGS LIKE THAT. NOW SUPPOSE, UM, WE LOSE POWER. I NOTICED THAT EVERYTHING WAS POWER SECURE TO GET IN THESE DOORS AND SOFTWARE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THE POWER GOES OUT? UH, THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD QUESTION. SO PART OF THE INSTALLATION PACKAGE IS, UM, THAT, SO THERE'S A SEPARATE CONTROLLER FOR EACH FACILITY IDENTIFIED, NO, BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T MENTION THOSE FACILITIES, BUT THE HIGH TRAFFIC TRAFFIC FACILITIES BEING THE COURT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE EOC FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. UM, CITY HALL, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF PEOPLE FLOW IN AND OUTTA CITY HALL AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE THE SCHOOL, UM, THE TEACHING FACILITY BACK THERE AT PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE WANT TO MINIMIZE THOSE PEOPLE FROM GOING IN THE WRONG AREAS WHENEVER THEY DO DO. SO THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT [07:55:01] ARE IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW FOR THE DOOR ACCESS. THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY UNDER CONTRACT RIGHT NOW WITH JOHNSTON CONTROL. SO WE'RE GONNA LET THAT CONTRACT PLAY OUT BEFORE WE MAKE ANY CHANGES OVER THERE POTENTIALLY. UM, SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. SO EACH BUILDING HAS A CONTROLLER AND EACH BUILDING WILL ALSO HAVE A BATTERY BACKUP ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND THEN THERE ARE EMERGENCY, UM, UNLOCKED PROCEDURES FOR THE DOORS, UH, AS FAR AS THE STRIKES THAT ARE ON THE DOOR AS WELL. SO, RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? OKAY. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE PUBLIC TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS. SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX F. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX F. WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? JUST ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION. UM, I WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ANSWER. , UH, MATT WANTS TO BE THE OLD GUY. YOU WANNA BE THE QUESTIONER? I MEAN, COME ON. JUST, JUST BEFORE YOU KNOW IF, IF THIS GETS APPROVED HERE, UM, DO WE DO WANT TO ADD THE TWO ENTRANCE DOORS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR SECURITY PURPOSES TO THIS, UM, AGREEMENT COUNCIL? UM, YES. YES. YEAH, I, I THINK, I THINK THE GENERAL FEELING OF COUNCIL IS YES. OKAY. AND WE'LL STILL BE UNDER BUDGET WITH THOSE TWO DOORS ADDED. JUST OH, GOOD. WELL, I, I THOUGHT HE, THEY'D JUST THROW THAT IN FOR FREE. OKAY. UM, THANKS JAMES. VERY, VERY NICE. SO, UM, NOW YOU THREW ME OFF. I, DID WE TAKE A VOTE YET? NO. NO. UH, SO ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY PUBLIC OR COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL FOR A VOICE VOTE ON THIS. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. THANK YOU. IS IT DONE YET? . UM, NEXT IS ITEM G, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF HARDY, ACCEPTING THE BID FROM EMC ENGINEERING SERVICES. SAVANNAH, GEORGIA AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY FOR VARIOUS VEHICLE PARKING LOTS AND PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS. UM, MS. MCMAHON, I, I, UH, I GUESS YOU'RE TAKING THIS ITEM. I AM. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNSEL STAFF. SO THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU EXPLAINS THE NINE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE LUMPING INTO ONE PROJECT. IT'S FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND THIS FIRST PAGE SHOWS YOU LOCATION NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS AT OUR REC CENTER. AND I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER THAT. WHERE IS MY LITTLE, OKAY. IN THE BACK OF THE REC CENTER, WE HAVE AN AREA THAT WAS UNDEVELOPED, THAT WAS VALUE ENGINEERED OUT OF THE PROJECT. SO WE'RE RE WE'RE PUTTING THAT PROJECT BACK IN THE LINEUP AND FOR REASONS THAT WE'RE IN TERRIBLE NEED OF EXTRA PARKING AT THAT REC CENTER. UM, SO THAT'S OUR FIRST PROJECT, SECOND PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S KIND OF FAINT, BUT THAT YELLOW AREA DOWN AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING WILL BE PAVED. AND THEN OUR THIRD PROJECT, YOU ALL KNOW AND ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE INCLUDED IS OUR BOYD STREET SIDEWALK PROJECT. AND THEN THE FOURTH LOCATION IS EVERYTHING CONCENTRATED IN OUR RICHARD GRAY COMPLEX. SO IF YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE HAVE THIS AREA BACKED BY THE ROUNDABOUT THAT CURRENTLY IT LOOKS LIKE DIRT IN THE PICTURE, BUT IT'S GRASS THAT'LL BE PAVED. AND THERE WILL BE A BRIDGE HERE IN THE GREEN. AND THAT BRIDGE WILL LEAD TO THIS NEW AREA THAT IS PART OF THE ACQUISITION ON RANDALL STREET. SO IT'S GONNA EXPAND OUR PARKING DRASTICALLY. UM, AND THEN THE YELLOW AREA HERE SHOWS A NEW FENCE THAT WILL HELP US GATE THAT OFF SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE THAT OR LOCK IT AT NIGHT. AND THEN IF WE GO ON TO THE PROJECT NEXT TO OUR EXISTING BASKETBALL COURT HERE, THIS ENTIRE AREA BETWEEN THE DOG PART AND THE BASKETBALL COURT, THAT THAT'LL ALL LOOK AT PAVED. AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE THE PAVING, UH, HERE. THAT'LL BE ADDITIONAL, UH, DIAGONAL PARKING, WHICH IT EXISTS OUT THERE. NOW WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING WHAT WE HAVE. UM, FOR ADA COMPLIANCE, WE NEED TO ADD SIDEWALK AROUND THE FOOTBALL FIELD TO ALLOW FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO REACH THE BLEACHERS. AND THEN [08:00:01] IN THE FRONT OF THE PARKING AREA, RIGHT HERE IS A LITTLE YELLOW SPOT THAT'S CRACKED AND IN DIRE NEED OF BEING REPLACED. AND SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE PROJECT. UM, THE LAST SECTION BACKED BY THE, UH, THE CONCESSION AREA. YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE YELLOW LINE HERE THAT, THAT'S AN AMBULANCE DRIVEWAY THAT'LL GET PAVED. AND THEN THERE IS YET ANOTHER PARKING LOT, OUR EXISTING PARKING LOT IN THIS AREA THAT CURRENTLY HAS PAVING, BUT IT NEEDS REPLACED. AND SO THOSE ARE OUR NINE PROJECTS IN FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. UM, HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU OUR SCORE SHEET, WHICH IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THAT UP, SEE IF IT GOES. NOPE. THERE IT IS. SO WE HAD A COMMITTEE, UM, A LITTLE HARD TO READ, BUT WE HAD A COMMITTEE MEET AND WE HAD SIX DESIGN PROFESSIONALS SUBMIT ON THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS A GREAT TURNOUT. IT'S A SIGN OF THE, THE CHANGING TIMES. UH, THE SIX DESIGN PROFESSIONALS ARE LISTED AT THE TOP OF OUR SCORE SHEET. OUR COMMITTEE WENT THROUGH AND WE EVALUATED BASED ON THIS CRITERIA, AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER FOR EACH SUBMITTAL WAS 37 POINTS. SO HOW DO I GO DOWN? CAN YOU, YEAH, THERE WE GO. UH, YOU CAN SEE WHAT EACH ONE OF THE FIRM'S PROPOSAL TOTALED AND TO ENSURE THAT WE HAD APPLES, FOR APPLES, I HAVE HERE ALL OF WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THEIR PROPOSAL. UM, WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THE LOWEST BID, AND WE CERTAINLY DID NOT RECOMMEND THE HIGHEST BID. WE WENT WITH EMC ENGINEERING, WHO WE FEEL IS GIVING A TOTAL PACKAGE AT A VERY FAIR PRICE. UM, AND THEN OF COURSE AT THE BOTTOM, EMC CAME IN AT 118 POINTS. OUR HIGHEST WAS WARD EDWARDS AT 1 21, BUT THESE THREE WERE VERY CLOSE. AND, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. I NOTICED THAT THIS, EXCUSE ME, LET'S, UH, GO WITH MR. MESMAN FIRST. IT LOOKS LIKE, IT LOOKS LIKE STAFF HAS DONE A VERY DILIGENT JOB IN, UH, RESEARCHING THESE FIRMS. I I THINK YOU'VE DONE A VERY GOOD JOB WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THIS IS GOOD. GUZMAN, NO QUESTION ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. MR. WHITE, THE NEGRO BEAVER, UH, , I NOTICED THIS IS IN 2023, 2024 FOR YOUR BUDGET YEAR. IN TERMS OF WHEN THIS ACTUALLY ALL GETS STARTED, I, I ASSUME SOON, BUT WHEN DOES, WHEN'S THE COMPLETION TARGET FOR THESE PROJECTS? SO THAT, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE IS, THERE'S MONEY THAT'S SLATED IN THE 2023 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET. AND IN THE 2024 FISCAL YEAR, UM, IF WE GET OUR APPROVAL TO PROCEED WITH HIRING EMC ENGINEERING, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THEM AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO START DESIGN. SO, AS YOU'RE FAMILIAR, THE DESIGN PROCESS, ONCE WE GET THROUGH THAT, WE GO THROUGH OUR PERMITTING AND THEN WE PUT IT OUT FOR BID FOR CONTRACTORS TO COME IN AND, UM, START CONSTRUCTION. SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT DESIGN COULD BE COMPLETE IN SIX MONTHS. AND THEN IF WE AWARD CONTRACT TO A CONTRACTOR WITHIN THE SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTH, THEY CAN START CONSTRUCTION AT THAT TIME. YEP. MR. CARROLL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. I'VE, I, I'VE BEEN THINKING FOR A WHILE 'CAUSE I'M FAMILIAR WITH DIRECT CENTER AND I KNOW JEN, UM, NEEDS SPACE SOMETIME IT'S A PARKINGS A AT A PREMIUM, UM, AND SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS TOO. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. THANK YOU. YEAH, COUPLING ALL OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS INTO ONE YEAH. MAKES IT A MUCH MORE DESIRABLE PROJECT FOR I THINK SO NOT JUST THE DESIGN TEAMS, BUT OUR CONTRACTORS AS WELL GET BETTER PRICING. UM, COUPLE QUESTIONS. FIRST OF ALL, ON LOOKING AT ALL THE SERVICES DOWN HERE, NOT JUST FOR THE ONE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, BUT FROM EVERYTHING, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE UN UH, EXCLUDED. FOR INSTANCE, GEOTECHNICAL AND, AND SURVEY, ET CETERA. SO ARE THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED AND WILL THAT MAKE THE PRICE HIGHER IF WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT FROM WE YEAH, FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. IN FACT, WE, WE EXCLUDED GEOTECHNICAL AND SURVEY FROM THE RFP FOR REASONS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ARCHIVES SURVEY INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T NEED ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE PROJECTS. NOW, DO WE HAVE IT ON ALL NINE? NO, BUT WE, WE FELT IT WAS EASIER FOR US TO GO DIRECT TO OUR SURVEY COMPANY, WHICH WE HAVE MULTIPLE PRE-QUALIFIED [08:05:01] SURVEY CONSULTANTS. SO YES, THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL FEE DOWN THE ROAD IF IT'S REQUIRED. BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR RECORDS TO BE SUFFICE AND THEN GEOTECHNICAL CASE BY CASE BASIS. SOME AREAS MAY NEED IT, SOME AREAS DO NOT. SO ON THE ONE YOU'RE RECOMMENDING, THE THINGS LIKE, UH, GEOTECHNICAL AND SURVEY THAT ARE EXCLUDED, WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE NEEDING THOSE TWO ITEMS. NOT ON EVERY ONE OF THE PROJECTS, BUT MAYBE ON A COUPLE. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S, THERE'S POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL COST HERE. MINIMAL, YES. A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF COST. OKAY. UM, MY NEXT COMMENT IS SOMEWHAT LIKE THE LAST ITEM WE HAVE. AND THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OTHER SIDEWALK PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY BOYD STREET, AND THAT'S LINGERED FOR A COUPLE YEARS. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA DO BACK THERE AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE STILL, THE THINGS WE ASKED FOR TWO YEARS AGO NOT DONE. BUT NOW THINGS THAT, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT NECESSARY AND THEY'RE NOT A GOOD PROJECT, BUT THEY'RE GETTING PUT BEFORE SOMETHING WE ASKED FOR A COUPLE YEARS AGO. SO, UH, I, I'D LIKE TO, IF I COULD, IF I COULD, I I'LL GIVE YOU THE HISTORY THAT I HAVE IN THE YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. BOYD STREET HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON. UH, THE DIFFICULTY WAS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A SMALL PROJECT, A LOT OF THE DESIGNERS WERE NOT PRIORITIZING THAT FOR US. AND WE HAD HIRED A FIRM TO DO THREE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS, OF WHICH WHEN WE GOT THOSE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS BACK, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONFLICTS IN THAT AREA. AND SO IT MADE THE DECISION MAKING AND THE COST EXPENSE, UH, A LITTLE LENGTHIER PROCESS THAN WE HAD HOPED. BUT THEN FINDING CONTRACTORS FOR SMALL PROJECTS HAS BECOME AN ABSOLUTE NO. I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST NOT RESPONDING. WE HAVE A LARGE TRAIL PROJECT THAT'S GETTING PAVING AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A SEVEN, $800,000 AWARD FOR OUR CONTRACTOR. AND WE HAD ONE CONTRACTOR BID THAT. SO THE REASON BOYD STREET WAS SO DIFFICULT TO GET COMPLETED IS JUST THE SIZE OF IT WASN'T DESIRABLE FOR THE FIRM. SO LET ME ASK SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW, IT SEEMS OBVIOUS TO ME, IF THAT'S THE PROBLEM, INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING NINE ITEMS ON THIS PROJECT, WHY DON'T WE ADD 10 AND PUT BOYD STREET AS PART OF IT NOW YOU GOT A BIGGER PROJECT. OH, IT IS PART OF IT. OKAY. OH, OKAY. YEAH, BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. OH, I'M SORRY. NOPE, THAT'S FINE. IT'S, IT'S JET LAG. IT'S ONE OF THE LOCATIONS. JET LAG AND STUPIDITY. NO, NO, NO. IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A LOCATION NUMBER. I MISSED THAT THREE, WHICH, OH, SORRY. WE HAVE TO GO BACK. UM, RIGHT. SO WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IS ONE LOCATION, THE RECREATION CENTER OFF OF JOHN SMITH ROAD. BOYS STREET IS OUR THIRD LOCATION AND OUR FOURTH LOCATION IS EVERYTHING BACK HERE BEHIND RICHARD GRAY. YEAH, SO RIGHT THERE, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALK POST. SORRY, I TOTALLY MISSED IT. I MISSPOKE. I'M AN NEW IDIOT. THAT'S FINE. SORRY YOU'RE NOT . IT'S A LOT AND IT'S REALLY WARM IN HERE, SO MUST TAKE A VOTE ON THAT . I KNOW IT WOULD BE UNANIMOUS. OKAY. JET LAG. SO I, I'M GONNA AMEND MY STATEMENT. I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THE VOICE THREE PROJECT AS PART OF THIS. OKAY. UM, NEXT, UM, IS PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, UH, REGARDING THIS RESOLUTION? SEEING NONE, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE, DISAPPROVE, OR MAKE ANY CHANGES. THIS IS RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX GE, MR. MAYOR WITH, UM, WITH GLEE. GLEE. I MAKE A, UM, YEAH, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023 DASH SEVEN DASH SIX G. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY COUNSEL OR THE PUBLIC? I. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.